PTS Patch Notes v2.7.0 (Homestead)

Midori_Oku · January 2017

I thought ZOS said there were going to be changes to make unwanted weapon/armor traits more desirable? Did I hear wrong, or did I just completely overlook them in the patch notes?

Lettigall · January 2017

blazjit420 wrote: »

DOES THIS PATCH FIX LAG? IF NOT I DONT WANT IT!

If this patch goes live, there will be less lag because there will be less players!

Dymence · January 2017

philrsx wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Pretty satisfied with overall changes, looks like a pretty interesting balance patch. Don't know why people are throwing such a fuss. Most of the posters seem to have no clue whatsoever...

Bit sad for the nightblades though, but oh well.

And what class do you main?

Sorc

And that is why your opinion about this update is not valid...

Well, some classes have it worse than others I suppose. I just like to think in possibilities.

Templars have gotten it the worst in my opinion, with the radiant destruction nerf and the stun removal from blazing spear. I personally believe the beam is cancer, so the damage nerf is positive. The stun removal from blazing spear was unnecessary however. Their sustain overall is going to be a lot worse in PVE probably, due to the changes to elemental drain and siphon spirit, with the new Minor magickasteal. Will have to see how that pans out in practice.

DKs got off OK I think, stronger spammable and a weaker banner. Can't say anything about the new dragonblood, will have to see how it functions in practice.

Nightblades got a roleplaying buff and a nerf to sustain on funnel. They could've used a buff to path, but it's not the end of the world. Just a missed opportunity.

Sorcs got their pets buffed which makes pet sorc now the most broken thing in 1v1 duel PVP probably. The atronarch buff of 25% only reinforces that further. The cost reduction of our root is a nice touch for group PVP, in which roots play an important role. The velocious curse change is an interesting one and we will have to see how it turns out. It might be a buff for overall sustained damage in PVE, due to not having to recast it as often. For PVP, you just have to delay your burst combo slightly longer, and you now have the option of backbarring it.

There's an overall single target buff of 8% for every magicka user who uses a flame staff, perfect for PVE and PVP duels, and a 3% damage buff to the destro ult for lightning staff users, which works perfectly for a sorc. Furthermore the new batswarm ult morph seems very interesting for 1v1 PVP and smallscale. The text makes me feel like it's going to be OP, but the text is extremely vague (like what is 'high damage'?) and the mechanics behind it are still unclear. It might be a good global single target burst ult which is accessible to everyone. Then there's scalding rune in mages guild, which might now be a viable option for PVE dps. Will have to see the exact numbers on it.

Dakrana_Thrazvoth · January 2017

Major Evasion: Reduced this buff category’s dodge chance bonus to 15% dodge chance from 20% dodge chance.

It was not really necessary, medium armor users are squishy enough in pvp.

psychotic13 · January 2017

Hmmm can't decide if I'm happy or not.

Cost Increase to strife is ridiculous

Pets got buffed finally, don't like the curse change though.

Ice staff for tanking? [snip] who has time to charge a fully charged heavy attack to taunt when you can just spam the better taunts

DK got the magicka dragon leap finally, though coagulating blood seems like it will be crap.
[edited for profanity bypass]

LittlePumpkin030 · January 2017

@ZOS_GinaBruno Hey Gina, can you give us an estimated Time, when you guys think the PTS will start patching?

Pops_ND_Irish · January 2017

Lettigall wrote: »

blazjit420 wrote: »

DOES THIS PATCH FIX LAG? IF NOT I DONT WANT IT!

If this patch goes live, there will be less lag because there will be less players!

I hope so ! Maybe the forum will be quieter too ?
Nobody's leaving, its all talk.
If they do leave, they were anyway, just need an excuse.

Dakrana_Thrazvoth · January 2017

And why there is no change at all about snares who are actually a huge issue ?

SantieClaws · January 2017

Buff, Nerf, Nuff, Berf.

Khajiit does not know these people although she suspects one of them may have been unfortunately unwell in the Rosy Lion on one occasion. Much too close for the comfort of this one yes.

Why is nobody talking about the chairs? For too long we have sat on the floor when our adventuring aches they became too much.

And the fishing up of the things - more things! So many things. Khajiit likes things. Things they are good yes.

Khajiit would like a little clarification on the exact number of visitors possible in each home though. A party is not a party when it is only Khajiit with the large keg of ale. That is more of an incident yes ...

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Lettigall · January 2017

MoTeets wrote: »

Lettigall wrote: »

blazjit420 wrote: »

DOES THIS PATCH FIX LAG? IF NOT I DONT WANT IT!

If this patch goes live, there will be less lag because there will be less players!

I hope so ! Maybe the forum will be quieter too ?
Nobody's leaving, its all talk.
If they do leave, they were anyway, just need an excuse.

If the game is good you won't search for an excuse to leave. And I agree, publicly speaking about leaving is just for attention.

Tib · January 2017

Lettigall wrote: »

MoTeets wrote: »

Lettigall wrote: »

blazjit420 wrote: »

DOES THIS PATCH FIX LAG? IF NOT I DONT WANT IT!

If this patch goes live, there will be less lag because there will be less players!

I hope so ! Maybe the forum will be quieter too ?
Nobody's leaving, its all talk.
If they do leave, they were anyway, just need an excuse.

If the game is good you won't search for an excuse to leave. And I agree, publicly speaking about leaving is just for attention.

Priceless.

Enodoc · January 2017

SantieClaws wrote: »

Buff, Nerf, Nuff, Berf.

Khajiit does not know these people although she suspects one of them may have been unfortunately unwell in the Rosy Lion on one occasion. Much too close for the comfort of this one yes.

Why is nobody talking about the chairs? For too long we have sat on the floor when our adventuring aches they became too much.

And the fishing up of the things - more things! So many things. Khajiit likes things. Things they are good yes.

Khajiit would like a little clarification on the exact number of visitors possible in each home though. A party is not a party when it is only Khajiit with the large keg of ale. That is more of an incident yes ...

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Poor Santie, sitting on the floor

Did nobody teach you that Summon Chair spell? I've seen it used in many places, most often on the top of some random rock. Very convenient, but it looks out of place quite often, particularly when all the other chairs in the building are a different style.

Akrasjel · January 2017

Racial Style Materials are caped on 15 gold byt the NPC sellers would an increase be possible... not sure how high will the demand will go up but it should

Tan9oSuccka · January 2017

Awesome news on the housing, but the balance changes = booooo

Also, PvP needs to be separated badly. This is why we can't have nice things....

greylox · January 2017

Nice pet changes and love the fact curse will go off on dead bodies.

...but the ice staff changes are insane....my dps frost mage is going to be useless in group content if I'm constantly aggroing stuff.

Rev Rielle · January 2017

SantieClaws wrote: »

Buff, Nerf, Nuff, Berf.

Khajiit does not know these people although she suspects one of them may have been unfortunately unwell in the Rosy Lion on one occasion. Much too close for the comfort of this one yes.

Why is nobody talking about the chairs? For too long we have sat on the floor when our adventuring aches they became too much.

And the fishing up of the things - more things! So many things. Khajiit likes things. Things they are good yes.

Khajiit would like a little clarification on the exact number of visitors possible in each home though. A party is not a party when it is only Khajiit with the large keg of ale. That is more of an incident yes ...

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

I agree, hopefully we will know more with time.

And I really hope in the future there is a housing permission that allows someone to add/remove items from homes. Half the fun of housing (speaking from experience in other games with housing) is being able to decorate a house with someone, and whilst there is a permission that somewhat does that, it would be nice if both could have equal authority.

And yes, finally; we can sit on the chairs and benches.

bebynnag · January 2017

while my vampire mDK is Happy
my LightningSorc isnt sure whether to laugh or cry
& my iceBlade are very very very sad!

Alanar · January 2017

I get that the target skeleton is a convenient bloodspawn test for an individual. I would love to see a very rare version of the skeleton that has at least 10-20x as much health and can be used to let an entire 12 person trials group practice together.

Knootewoot · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

HOMESTEAD
Many chairs, thrones, benches, pews, stools, and other seating objects throughout Tamriel are now interactive. You just need to approach the furniture and interact with it to sit down, provided there is room and the furniture is placed in an accessible location.
objects that aren't placed in a level, open area may not be valid for interaction.

WIN. this is a big win. Yay.

Glantir · January 2017

Will the lightning staff aoe bonus affect Elemental Blockade and Liquid Lightning? If yes a VMSA lightning staff could be interessting.

With the changes to Elemental Drain, the Curse change isnt so bad I think, could be interessting to know if you can recast after 6s without overwriting the effect.

For PVP dont forget that Force Pulse/Crushing could not reflected anymore....

But with the crit nerfs I think I have to switch from TBS to another set $:\$

DrWill · January 2017

Will we be able to ask for a mortgage and how we gonna pay? Like:

12 months paying a 10000g and a 5% or something like that. And if not... Eviction.

I want my manor!

BTW we could even share a house with our partner if we are married, right?

A little ideas to enjoy the waiting for the PTS patch.

Titansteele · January 2017

Wow with all those nerfs I am glad that I can buy a walled off house to hide behind as fighting things is clearly no longer the intent

Universe · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Combat & Gameplay
General

Sorcerer
Velocious Curse (Daedric Curse morph):
Renamed this morph to Haunting Curse.

This morph no longer shortens the duration of the curse to 3.5 seconds from 6 seconds; instead, it causes the curse to echo and trigger one additional time 6 seconds after the first explosion.

Weapon
Destruction Staff

Elemental Storm:
Force Shock: This ability and its morphs can no longer be reflected. Beam-type attacks cannot be reflected, but are able to be blocked.

The nerf to velocious curse is unnecessary.
There are already too few abilities a sorcerer can utilize in order to burst down an enemy in pvp, now this ability is much less effective.
The fact that force shock and it's morphs can no longer be reflected is great.
It is now viable against Dragonknights who spam their wings, more pressure.
Also, I believe the following shields should be buffed to 12 seconds:
1) Hardened Ward
2) Harness Magicka
The reapplying of those shields every 6 seconds is just too much for sorcerers.
Those shields are the only line of defense for sorcerers(light armor is essentially useless) and there isn't enough time to cast the different damage abilities, not enough burst.
It is possible to burst an enemy in pvp but it is much harder than it used to be.
Also, the magicka cost of reapplying the shields every 6 seconds is significant.

The prices of the homes are fine but I believe that if a player buys the 3 manors from the crown store, he/she shouldn't receive the associated title...
This is extremely wrong...
The associated titles should be blocked by achievements and the amount of gold the player has accumulated.
The titles system needs to be separated from the crown store.
Furthermore, I believe that certain homes should be removed from crown store purchase:
1.Large Homes.
2.Manors.

If anyone can buy the home from the crown store, why bother with gold ?
This isn't right.
The player should work harder to gain access to those homes.
I don't like the casual approach that anyone can buy any home from the crown store.
Please make the purchase of the higher tier homes harder so it will be a real achievement.

I have a lot more to write about the "balance" update but I won't make this post tldr.
In conclusion, it's obvious to me that this update didn't address many major balance issues, such as the superiority of the heavy armor skill line & stamina builds.

Enodoc · January 2017

Lord wrote: »

I believe that if a player buys the 3 manors from the crown store, he/she shouldn't receive the associated title...
This is extremely wrong...
The associated titles should be blocked by achievements and the amount of gold the player has accumulated.
The titles system needs to be seperated from the crown store.

Definitely agree with this. No titles if you buy from the Crown Store.

MarkusLiberty · January 2017

Definitely agree with this. No titles if you buy from the Crown Store.

That would make those titles permanently unavailable to those players, I don't think that's a fair solution.

LittlePumpkin030 · January 2017

Enodoc wrote: »

Lord wrote: »

I believe that if a player buys the 3 manors from the crown store, he/she shouldn't receive the associated title...
This is extremely wrong...
The associated titles should be blocked by achievements and the amount of gold the player has accumulated.
The titles system needs to be seperated from the crown store.

Definitely agree with this. No titles if you buy from the Crown Store.

Who actually cares about titles? O__O

Franieck · January 2017

To me this has been the most useless update so far... Couldn't care less about housing, the balance update only nerfed my magtemplar and from reading the posts I don't think they actually managed to solve the issues they were trying to address in PVP but actually managed to make PVE worse...
Only good think (to me at least) coming in this update is the Ebony motif... Looking forward to see how it looks

Hellsbunnies · January 2017

I'm assuming as nothing else has been said, that the furniture skill will use the existing motifs?

LittlePumpkin030 · January 2017

Hellsbunnies wrote: »

I'm assuming as nothing else has been said, that the furniture skill will use the existing motifs?

They said the 10 styles of races

Izaki · January 2017

Love Wizard wrote: »

Decent changes, but it annoys me to see so much ignorance when it comes to PvE balancing. Nightblade still remains the worst, and you decide to nerf it in wierd ways, I guess the nerfs are according to PvP, but still. I'd understand if you'd want to nerf raid dps as a whole, but why do you then end up in buffing magicka sorc and magicka dk, with changes that seems to impact PVE solely.

Anyways, nice updates. Hoped for some more balance, but this time I expected nothing less from you ZoS ^^

Time to close my nightblade threads and give up on this hopeless class as everyone else has been doing, I thought you were gonna make it ok at best, but now it's just lightly put a pile of horseshit.

Wut? Sorcs got buffed in PvE? If loosing 42% of damage per cast on Curse is a buff to you, then what's a nerf?!