Hempyre wrote: »

This is ***.

Who ever since s in "charge" of this *** shouldn't be.

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I would say the 2H is OP, but there's a move called Radiant Destruction in this game so I think it's perfectly balanced

Go *** yourself dumb *** idiot.

Lucius_Aelius wrote: »

Ffastyl wrote: »

I have tried a few (3) weapon ultimates in combat and these are my thoughts on each:

Two-Handed -
Seems powerful or even overpowered on paper but comes out lackluster in practice. The general player has little armor already (largely negated by Penetration) so not much damage is gained by ignoring it. The base damage also seems to be 20% more than Uppercut, so combined with a 144 cost (after class passive cost reduction), it does not come out frequent enough to make that damage worthwhile.

This ultimate really seems to want to be a defensive ultimate -- which I approve of! The ultimates seem to be aimed at making each weapon type more versatile and I think they largely succeed ("largely" explained below). I think the up time on the defensive buff is too short to make good use of it as well. Extending it to 10 secoonds, at the trade-off of increased cost or reduced damage, would make it serve better as a defensive ultimate. Alternatively lowering the cost will have the same effect as increasing the duration -- increased up time. This applies to the Berzerker Rage morph, and I realize Onslaught is focused more as an offensive ultimate. If the trade-off for increased up time is lower base damage, then that lost base damage can be returned in the Onslaught morph or just be an exclusive balance of Berzerker Rage.

Dual Wield -
Lacerate is an ultimate that may actually be a tad too strong or just right, depending on Dev preference. With moderate damage output (2.1k wep), this ultimate combined with Maelstrom weapons and other DoTs has secured me kills in duels. The ultimate also helps Dual Wield perform better against hordes, filling a similar role to Brawler from Two-Handed.

The difference in morphs, double duration versus 5% bonus damage for each hit, seems like an easy choice initially. However the 5% bonus damage per hit applies not only to the ultimate but all damage inflicted while the ultimate is active. It will have a higher pick rate amongst DPS for this. However after combat testing, I personally will prefer the increased duration to maintain pressure on opponents.

One-Hand and Shield -
Shield Wall is the one ultimate that does not add versatility to the line. And that is not a bad thing. Stamina recovers while Shield Wall is active, so it will help immensely in Trials and other PvE content where turtling is a must for most tanks. To that end I also believe Shield Wall will help more tanks get into Trials as this relieves some of the resource drain from turtling.

On paper Spell Wall seems the better morph -- "reflect all spell projectiles for 5 seconds? Sign me up," but Shield Discipline may in fact be better. Especially for offensive users of sword and shield. Negating the cost of One-Hand and Shield skills while auto-blocking effectively eliminates all stress on Stamina (save for Bash, Dodge Roll and Break Free).


I think the morphs are well thought out for each ultimate, neither being clearly stronger than the other (save at first glance). The ultimates also strive to handle the weakness of each weapon line, which is appreciated. However, some ultimates do too many things to be effective at what we want them to be at (i.e. Berzerker Strike).

@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel

I couldn't disagree more about Two-Hander, the thing that's OP and broken about it is the fact that it lets a Glass Cannon steal a Tanky player's resistance, and 8 seconds is a huge uptime considering that in 8 seconds without having to worry about defense as much they'll likely kill most players, and besides which the Ultimate costs not that much at all and can likely be spammed a lot, leading to significant uptime of that defensive buff. Admittedly it's not broken at all against players with low resistance, that's not the problem, most people have low resistance because they don't bother to have any since it's generally better just to go full glass cannon, so against most people this would be fine. It's against Tamky characters that it's a problem and that it's broken, and it really is.

The fact is that it takes far too much effort for a Tanky character to get Tanky for it to be remotely fair or right for a glass cannon to steal that resistance for themselves, glass cannons are constantly being catered to with this game's mechanics and now Tanks will outright provide a massive buff to their enemy by being a Tank. I cannot stress enough how profoundly broken that is, we work we too hard to be be Tanky for it to make any kind of sense that our Tankiness should be used to buff our opponents to be as Tanky as us while still doing insane damage, and all with one cheap Ultimate that would already be one of the best in the game without that ability to steal resistance. They change their Build by equipping one Ultimate, and suddenly the thing that takes us 7 pieces of Armor and a conscious choice to use worse passives for more Tankiness becomes an asset to our enemy and next to useless for us.

They need to take away the buff to the user with the opponent's resistance, let it keep everything else exactly as it is and this will be an awesome new Ultimate that I'll be using on every stam character, but if this change goes live then Heavy Armor use in PvP will be dead when anyone using it is just buffing their enemies and losing out on damage in the process. When we reduce the damage of our enemies it makes sense to sacrifice that damage output, it's a trade-off and that's what makes games like this balanced (as much as they ever are), the need to sacrifice something if you want something else. But when we buff our enemies, have our resistance ignored by a hard-hitting Ultimate, and lose out on significant damage output... What the hell is even the point of using Heavy Armor at all anymore in PvP, ever? We lose out every way you look at it, that's not a trade-off to use Heavy Armor anymore, it's shooting ourselves in the foot.

And what's worse is that Tanks are already at the cap for resistance anyway, so stealing our enemies' resistance won't do us nearly as much good even against players with penetration, certainly not compared to the benefit glass cannons get, even against another glass cannon they still double their resistance so it's always useful, and against Tanks it's outright broken. Way to make every player with high resistance a detriment to their team instead of an asset, as if Tanks and Tanky characters didn't have it hard enough already. And it's not okay for Heavy Armor to be invalidated in PvP like this just because most people don't use it, that's a reason to make it more useful not less.

So no, this buffing yourself with the resistance of your enemy has to go, it's broken and it's wrong and it destroys any opportunity for Heavy Armor to be useful when you're losing out on damage and resources just to get something other players will steal and make their own. If they remove that this will be an excellent Ultimate with nothing broken about it, and no extension needed on the time that the buffs last either, that built-in Immovable looks awesome and if it lasted any longer then this Ultimate would be broken just for that. Either way I'll be using this Ultimate, but if it goes live as is then all my PvP characters are going full Medium and are going to abuse the hell out of this massively OP and utterly Broken mechanic.

Sharee wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Buffing yourself with the resistance of your enemy isn't really the problem, it's sort of like the DK ulti that allows you to ignore the enemy's resistance, it's only for 8 seconds so it's fair imo.

8 seconds is about 4 times as long as these cancer bow/2H builds need to get a kill. That's what p...es me most about this: the only way to even have a fighting chance against this BS stam meta was wearing heavy armor so you get a couple of seconds to react before you croak. Now even that is gone. Fear -> Onslaught -> next.

Might as well all reroll bow/2h and play a call-of-duty-like game of who oneshots the other first. Which will be won by the macro users of course.

Bah.

psychotic13 wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Buffing yourself with the resistance of your enemy isn't really the problem, it's sort of like the DK ulti that allows you to ignore the enemy's resistance, it's only for 8 seconds so it's fair imo.

8 seconds is about 4 times as long as these cancer bow/2H builds need to get a kill. That's what p...es me most about this: the only way to even have a fighting chance against this BS stam meta was wearing heavy armor so you get a couple of seconds to react before you croak. Now even that is gone. Fear -> Onslaught -> next.

Might as well all reroll bow/2h and play a call-of-duty-like game of who oneshots the other first. Which will be won by the macro users of course.

Bah.

Everyone keeps talking about the 'Stam meta' like you can't play anything else, stop believing all the hype. I'm still playing my MagSorc and deal with stamina opponents easily.

Lucius_Aelius wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Lucius_Aelius wrote: »

Ffastyl wrote: »

I have tried a few (3) weapon ultimates in combat and these are my thoughts on each:

Two-Handed -
Seems powerful or even overpowered on paper but comes out lackluster in practice. The general player has little armor already (largely negated by Penetration) so not much damage is gained by ignoring it. The base damage also seems to be 20% more than Uppercut, so combined with a 144 cost (after class passive cost reduction), it does not come out frequent enough to make that damage worthwhile.

This ultimate really seems to want to be a defensive ultimate -- which I approve of! The ultimates seem to be aimed at making each weapon type more versatile and I think they largely succeed ("largely" explained below). I think the up time on the defensive buff is too short to make good use of it as well. Extending it to 10 secoonds, at the trade-off of increased cost or reduced damage, would make it serve better as a defensive ultimate. Alternatively lowering the cost will have the same effect as increasing the duration -- increased up time. This applies to the Berzerker Rage morph, and I realize Onslaught is focused more as an offensive ultimate. If the trade-off for increased up time is lower base damage, then that lost base damage can be returned in the Onslaught morph or just be an exclusive balance of Berzerker Rage.

Dual Wield -
Lacerate is an ultimate that may actually be a tad too strong or just right, depending on Dev preference. With moderate damage output (2.1k wep), this ultimate combined with Maelstrom weapons and other DoTs has secured me kills in duels. The ultimate also helps Dual Wield perform better against hordes, filling a similar role to Brawler from Two-Handed.

The difference in morphs, double duration versus 5% bonus damage for each hit, seems like an easy choice initially. However the 5% bonus damage per hit applies not only to the ultimate but all damage inflicted while the ultimate is active. It will have a higher pick rate amongst DPS for this. However after combat testing, I personally will prefer the increased duration to maintain pressure on opponents.

One-Hand and Shield -
Shield Wall is the one ultimate that does not add versatility to the line. And that is not a bad thing. Stamina recovers while Shield Wall is active, so it will help immensely in Trials and other PvE content where turtling is a must for most tanks. To that end I also believe Shield Wall will help more tanks get into Trials as this relieves some of the resource drain from turtling.

On paper Spell Wall seems the better morph -- "reflect all spell projectiles for 5 seconds? Sign me up," but Shield Discipline may in fact be better. Especially for offensive users of sword and shield. Negating the cost of One-Hand and Shield skills while auto-blocking effectively eliminates all stress on Stamina (save for Bash, Dodge Roll and Break Free).


I think the morphs are well thought out for each ultimate, neither being clearly stronger than the other (save at first glance). The ultimates also strive to handle the weakness of each weapon line, which is appreciated. However, some ultimates do too many things to be effective at what we want them to be at (i.e. Berzerker Strike).

@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel

I couldn't disagree more about Two-Hander, the thing that's OP and broken about it is the fact that it lets a Glass Cannon steal a Tanky player's resistance, and 8 seconds is a huge uptime considering that in 8 seconds without having to worry about defense as much they'll likely kill most players, and besides which the Ultimate costs not that much at all and can likely be spammed a lot, leading to significant uptime of that defensive buff. Admittedly it's not broken at all against players with low resistance, that's not the problem, most people have low resistance because they don't bother to have any since it's generally better just to go full glass cannon, so against most people this would be fine. It's against Tamky characters that it's a problem and that it's broken, and it really is.

The fact is that it takes far too much effort for a Tanky character to get Tanky for it to be remotely fair or right for a glass cannon to steal that resistance for themselves, glass cannons are constantly being catered to with this game's mechanics and now Tanks will outright provide a massive buff to their enemy by being a Tank. I cannot stress enough how profoundly broken that is, we work we too hard to be be Tanky for it to make any kind of sense that our Tankiness should be used to buff our opponents to be as Tanky as us while still doing insane damage, and all with one cheap Ultimate that would already be one of the best in the game without that ability to steal resistance. They change their Build by equipping one Ultimate, and suddenly the thing that takes us 7 pieces of Armor and a conscious choice to use worse passives for more Tankiness becomes an asset to our enemy and next to useless for us.

They need to take away the buff to the user with the opponent's resistance, let it keep everything else exactly as it is and this will be an awesome new Ultimate that I'll be using on every stam character, but if this change goes live then Heavy Armor use in PvP will be dead when anyone using it is just buffing their enemies and losing out on damage in the process. When we reduce the damage of our enemies it makes sense to sacrifice that damage output, it's a trade-off and that's what makes games like this balanced (as much as they ever are), the need to sacrifice something if you want something else. But when we buff our enemies, have our resistance ignored by a hard-hitting Ultimate, and lose out on significant damage output... What the hell is even the point of using Heavy Armor at all anymore in PvP, ever? We lose out every way you look at it, that's not a trade-off to use Heavy Armor anymore, it's shooting ourselves in the foot.

And what's worse is that Tanks are already at the cap for resistance anyway, so stealing our enemies' resistance won't do us nearly as much good even against players with penetration, certainly not compared to the benefit glass cannons get, even against another glass cannon they still double their resistance so it's always useful, and against Tanks it's outright broken. Way to make every player with high resistance a detriment to their team instead of an asset, as if Tanks and Tanky characters didn't have it hard enough already. And it's not okay for Heavy Armor to be invalidated in PvP like this just because most people don't use it, that's a reason to make it more useful not less.

So no, this buffing yourself with the resistance of your enemy has to go, it's broken and it's wrong and it destroys any opportunity for Heavy Armor to be useful when you're losing out on damage and resources just to get something other players will steal and make their own. If they remove that this will be an excellent Ultimate with nothing broken about it, and no extension needed on the time that the buffs last either, that built-in Immovable looks awesome and if it lasted any longer then this Ultimate would be broken just for that. Either way I'll be using this Ultimate, but if it goes live as is then all my PvP characters are going full Medium and are going to abuse the hell out of this massively OP and utterly Broken mechanic.

Buffing yourself with the resistance of your enemy isn't really the problem, it's sort of like the DK ulti that allows you to ignore the enemy's resistance, it's only for 8 seconds so it's fair imo.

The problem is the ultimate return, this allows them to keep the buff up, and spam ults which is ridiculous, it's an ultimate not a 6th ability.

No that's exactly the problem, and your example makes no sense since Corrosive Armor is way more expensive and doesn't grant Immovable, you can just block/heal while someone uses it and wait to attack when they're done, not a problem to deal with enough to be broken. But having it buff you with your enemy's resistance invalidates Heavy Armor completely, there's no reason not to switch to Medium Armor now, and if you can't see how broken or wrong that is then you clearly haven't thought it through at all (or just don't see it as a problem since you have glass cannons like everyone else and don't care since it doesn't effect you), either way you're wrong.

And that Ultimate return isn't really that good at all, it's only when you deal a killing blow with the Ultimate and it's not really that high damage anyway, and it's cost is so low that I'd argue (and do argue) the Immovable option is better, you'll get the Ultimate to cast it again soon enough anyway and this Ultimate is more useful as a buff to yourself and as an extra attack to help get your enemy down to execute range, the buff letting you focus on Damage since you have CC immunity and much higher resistance. So no, the Immovable option is the better Morph for anyone who isn't a Nightblade trying to gank people, and even then it doesn't do enough damage more than other things for it to be a problem since a Nightblade has plenty of other options to do massive damage with a quick return on their Ultimate (Incapacitating Strike for one) so nothing will really change there.

Honestly if you got rid of that Ultimate Return there would be no reason for everyone not to use the other morph, and this skill would risk being lackluster against anyone besides Tanky players. There's Dawnbreaker to compete with which does massive damage, costs the same and is AoE instead of Single Target like the Two-Hander Ultimate. You need something to make it worth using and not all builds can make use of the same morph the same way so you need a variety of good options, and I see you getting the Ultimate refunded when the Ultimate isn't that expensive anyway as being less of a problem compared to the resistance issue. With the resistance buff it's definitely broken, but get rid of that and the Ultimate isn't good enough for it to be a problem getting it more often. And besides which if you have the Ultimate and wait to use it as a finisher then you're missing the opportunity to use it first and then build up Ultimate while fighting, which will likely end with you having your Ultimate back by the time the fight is over (if not sooner) since it's so cheap.

psychotic13 wrote: »

Lucius_Aelius wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Lucius_Aelius wrote: »

Ffastyl wrote: »

I have tried a few (3) weapon ultimates in combat and these are my thoughts on each:

Two-Handed -
Seems powerful or even overpowered on paper but comes out lackluster in practice. The general player has little armor already (largely negated by Penetration) so not much damage is gained by ignoring it. The base damage also seems to be 20% more than Uppercut, so combined with a 144 cost (after class passive cost reduction), it does not come out frequent enough to make that damage worthwhile.

This ultimate really seems to want to be a defensive ultimate -- which I approve of! The ultimates seem to be aimed at making each weapon type more versatile and I think they largely succeed ("largely" explained below). I think the up time on the defensive buff is too short to make good use of it as well. Extending it to 10 secoonds, at the trade-off of increased cost or reduced damage, would make it serve better as a defensive ultimate. Alternatively lowering the cost will have the same effect as increasing the duration -- increased up time. This applies to the Berzerker Rage morph, and I realize Onslaught is focused more as an offensive ultimate. If the trade-off for increased up time is lower base damage, then that lost base damage can be returned in the Onslaught morph or just be an exclusive balance of Berzerker Rage.

Dual Wield -
Lacerate is an ultimate that may actually be a tad too strong or just right, depending on Dev preference. With moderate damage output (2.1k wep), this ultimate combined with Maelstrom weapons and other DoTs has secured me kills in duels. The ultimate also helps Dual Wield perform better against hordes, filling a similar role to Brawler from Two-Handed.

The difference in morphs, double duration versus 5% bonus damage for each hit, seems like an easy choice initially. However the 5% bonus damage per hit applies not only to the ultimate but all damage inflicted while the ultimate is active. It will have a higher pick rate amongst DPS for this. However after combat testing, I personally will prefer the increased duration to maintain pressure on opponents.

One-Hand and Shield -
Shield Wall is the one ultimate that does not add versatility to the line. And that is not a bad thing. Stamina recovers while Shield Wall is active, so it will help immensely in Trials and other PvE content where turtling is a must for most tanks. To that end I also believe Shield Wall will help more tanks get into Trials as this relieves some of the resource drain from turtling.

On paper Spell Wall seems the better morph -- "reflect all spell projectiles for 5 seconds? Sign me up," but Shield Discipline may in fact be better. Especially for offensive users of sword and shield. Negating the cost of One-Hand and Shield skills while auto-blocking effectively eliminates all stress on Stamina (save for Bash, Dodge Roll and Break Free).


I think the morphs are well thought out for each ultimate, neither being clearly stronger than the other (save at first glance). The ultimates also strive to handle the weakness of each weapon line, which is appreciated. However, some ultimates do too many things to be effective at what we want them to be at (i.e. Berzerker Strike).

@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel

I couldn't disagree more about Two-Hander, the thing that's OP and broken about it is the fact that it lets a Glass Cannon steal a Tanky player's resistance, and 8 seconds is a huge uptime considering that in 8 seconds without having to worry about defense as much they'll likely kill most players, and besides which the Ultimate costs not that much at all and can likely be spammed a lot, leading to significant uptime of that defensive buff. Admittedly it's not broken at all against players with low resistance, that's not the problem, most people have low resistance because they don't bother to have any since it's generally better just to go full glass cannon, so against most people this would be fine. It's against Tamky characters that it's a problem and that it's broken, and it really is.

The fact is that it takes far too much effort for a Tanky character to get Tanky for it to be remotely fair or right for a glass cannon to steal that resistance for themselves, glass cannons are constantly being catered to with this game's mechanics and now Tanks will outright provide a massive buff to their enemy by being a Tank. I cannot stress enough how profoundly broken that is, we work we too hard to be be Tanky for it to make any kind of sense that our Tankiness should be used to buff our opponents to be as Tanky as us while still doing insane damage, and all with one cheap Ultimate that would already be one of the best in the game without that ability to steal resistance. They change their Build by equipping one Ultimate, and suddenly the thing that takes us 7 pieces of Armor and a conscious choice to use worse passives for more Tankiness becomes an asset to our enemy and next to useless for us.

They need to take away the buff to the user with the opponent's resistance, let it keep everything else exactly as it is and this will be an awesome new Ultimate that I'll be using on every stam character, but if this change goes live then Heavy Armor use in PvP will be dead when anyone using it is just buffing their enemies and losing out on damage in the process. When we reduce the damage of our enemies it makes sense to sacrifice that damage output, it's a trade-off and that's what makes games like this balanced (as much as they ever are), the need to sacrifice something if you want something else. But when we buff our enemies, have our resistance ignored by a hard-hitting Ultimate, and lose out on significant damage output... What the hell is even the point of using Heavy Armor at all anymore in PvP, ever? We lose out every way you look at it, that's not a trade-off to use Heavy Armor anymore, it's shooting ourselves in the foot.

And what's worse is that Tanks are already at the cap for resistance anyway, so stealing our enemies' resistance won't do us nearly as much good even against players with penetration, certainly not compared to the benefit glass cannons get, even against another glass cannon they still double their resistance so it's always useful, and against Tanks it's outright broken. Way to make every player with high resistance a detriment to their team instead of an asset, as if Tanks and Tanky characters didn't have it hard enough already. And it's not okay for Heavy Armor to be invalidated in PvP like this just because most people don't use it, that's a reason to make it more useful not less.

So no, this buffing yourself with the resistance of your enemy has to go, it's broken and it's wrong and it destroys any opportunity for Heavy Armor to be useful when you're losing out on damage and resources just to get something other players will steal and make their own. If they remove that this will be an excellent Ultimate with nothing broken about it, and no extension needed on the time that the buffs last either, that built-in Immovable looks awesome and if it lasted any longer then this Ultimate would be broken just for that. Either way I'll be using this Ultimate, but if it goes live as is then all my PvP characters are going full Medium and are going to abuse the hell out of this massively OP and utterly Broken mechanic.

Buffing yourself with the resistance of your enemy isn't really the problem, it's sort of like the DK ulti that allows you to ignore the enemy's resistance, it's only for 8 seconds so it's fair imo.

The problem is the ultimate return, this allows them to keep the buff up, and spam ults which is ridiculous, it's an ultimate not a 6th ability.

No that's exactly the problem, and your example makes no sense since Corrosive Armor is way more expensive and doesn't grant Immovable, you can just block/heal while someone uses it and wait to attack when they're done, not a problem to deal with enough to be broken. But having it buff you with your enemy's resistance invalidates Heavy Armor completely, there's no reason not to switch to Medium Armor now, and if you can't see how broken or wrong that is then you clearly haven't thought it through at all (or just don't see it as a problem since you have glass cannons like everyone else and don't care since it doesn't effect you), either way you're wrong.

And that Ultimate return isn't really that good at all, it's only when you deal a killing blow with the Ultimate and it's not really that high damage anyway, and it's cost is so low that I'd argue (and do argue) the Immovable option is better, you'll get the Ultimate to cast it again soon enough anyway and this Ultimate is more useful as a buff to yourself and as an extra attack to help get your enemy down to execute range, the buff letting you focus on Damage since you have CC immunity and much higher resistance. So no, the Immovable option is the better Morph for anyone who isn't a Nightblade trying to gank people, and even then it doesn't do enough damage more than other things for it to be a problem since a Nightblade has plenty of other options to do massive damage with a quick return on their Ultimate (Incapacitating Strike for one) so nothing will really change there.

Honestly if you got rid of that Ultimate Return there would be no reason for everyone not to use the other morph, and this skill would risk being lackluster against anyone besides Tanky players. There's Dawnbreaker to compete with which does massive damage, costs the same and is AoE instead of Single Target like the Two-Hander Ultimate. You need something to make it worth using and not all builds can make use of the same morph the same way so you need a variety of good options, and I see you getting the Ultimate refunded when the Ultimate isn't that expensive anyway as being less of a problem compared to the resistance issue. With the resistance buff it's definitely broken, but get rid of that and the Ultimate isn't good enough for it to be a problem getting it more often. And besides which if you have the Ultimate and wait to use it as a finisher then you're missing the opportunity to use it first and then build up Ultimate while fighting, which will likely end with you having your Ultimate back by the time the fight is over (if not sooner) since it's so cheap.

The ult return is a problem, what if you kill someone with the ult, so you regain the ultimate cost and still have the resistance buff active then switch bar and take flight/ Dawnbreaker someone else. I think they should just rework the skill as a whole tbh. Everything else is ok.

Dracane wrote: »

@WatchYourSixx
I started with elemental storm. I tried using meteor multiple times, to reach the same crit value of elemental storm. But meteor always had like twice the crit chance. I don't know why. But even IF elemental storm had the same crit chance, it would still be less damage.

Dracane wrote: »

Darlon wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

@WatchYourSixx
I started with elemental storm. I tried using meteor multiple times, to reach the same crit value of elemental storm. But meteor always had like twice the crit chance. I don't know why. But even IF elemental storm had the same crit chance, it would still be less damage.

@Dracane I can't really understand why the damage numbers on your tests are so low... the screenshot below was my own attempt (on a mammoth in wrothgar) and it certainly looks a lot better. All I did was use power surge (for the spelldamage buff) and the elemental rage ultimate:

I used a template character.



As a comparison, my meteor (shooting star, exact same circumstances):
Meteor still stronger, but the crit chance looks quite similar here

That was sarcasm, right ? The damage gap between your 2 is even bigger. The damage gap one mine is roughly 20k, yours is 40k. So your results should even more, how bad elemental storm is.

And I choosed an enemy that is not suspicious to fire. Mammoths are though.

• Reduce Ultimate cost to 175
• Increase base damage by 50% but reduce Duration from 10 seconds to 5 seconds, so as to be more "bursty"
• Give Minor Breech as a base effect, thus increasing the damage even more and offering some utility
• Change Eye of the Storm to be able to place it on an enemy instead of yourself
• Fire Staff should add a DoT, Frost should add a minor maim and snare debuff, Lightning should have a bigger radius by default.
• Elemental Rage should change the entire skill into an instant cast skill that exchanges the DoT aspect entirely for upfront damage instead.

• Ultimate should hit 4 people minimum, no excuse.
• Major Protection should be a base effect even if the Ultimate cost needed to go up to the 150-175 range to do so.
• Live Giver should be changed to a Resource restoring ultimate, giving back 15% of each resource to all affected
• Light's Champion should grant immunity like the 2h ultimate, on top of the Major Force.

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

ZoM_Head wrote: »

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

LORD ALMIGHTY BOW CALM DOWN

YOU CRAZY BOI

There is nothing crazy about that damage, it is roughly the same as soul assault with double the cost and no slow effect to you or the target. It's over 4 seconds, so you are looking at 10k a second on a 175 cost channel. The 2H will give you almost 20k instant that ignores mitigation so more like 30k, and one morph refunds cost if you kill the target.

With so many players running pretty low physical resistance due to light or medium armour, yeah its "not a problem" dealing 42K+ physical damage at all.

Soul assult deals magic damage, and most players, by default, have decent spell resistance.

Mind you you still have the flimsy magicka DK class that still can not self heal, deal average damage or even get in or out of situations like every other class out there.

? Seriously?

It won't be 42k in Cryodiil it will be 21k, it won't even be that much with mitigation, it will likely be more like 18k, at which point it is dealing 4.25k per second. Which is pathetic compared to other ultimates and pathetic for damage in general, especially as an interruptable cloakable channel.

Soul Assault also looks amazing when you only look at the maximum damage, but try it in Cyrodiil, rarely will it dent a target, it is far to easy to block, interrupt, cloak, and then you have wasted your ult, except with Soul Assault you have wasted only 100 ult not 175.

Since Cost came up lets look at ult cost compared to output, Soul Assault costs almost half the amount of the new bow ultimate but does roughly the same damage, but it also slows the target so they cant LOS you.

Now we won't know until its fully tested but it appears with even half a rationale interrogation that the bow ultimate isn't to be desired.