@ Names in Nameplates and Why It's Rage Inducing to RP'ers

Vangy · June 2016

As long as it goes both ways im fine with this. Ive had too many people "appearing offline" while sending hate tells. Or ignoring me and sending hate tells etc.

So if you ignore someone, you cant PM them.
If you appear offline, you also cannot communicate with anyone not in your friends list.
If you set your @name to be unviewable, you also cannot see others @names.

In this day and age, im sure coding these into the system cant be all that difficult.

newtinmpls · June 2016

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

Personally, all my characters have lore friendly names (my main Dark Elf Templar is called Sarya Virian..yeah, you know why. Who's to say how big House Virian really is?)

Exactly! I put a lot of effort into my character names, and in some cases play the in-game friend/spouse/relative of a character of someone else that I know.

Well done in the lore/name department.

Daraugh · June 2016

It's a "feature" that has been hated on consoles, no really! Do a search and see. There were multiple threads on the pts about how bad it was, not even having a toggle option on your own view at the very least. But how can one's Elder Scrolls experience be complete without getting to see @names like IFarted? I hadn't until just tonight. Maybe I should just chalk that one up to Zos's obsession with making everything poison based in this release...

For a game that advertised its minimalist ui, it sure is getting crowded on my screen.

Sinnammu · June 2016

I can only say that I really hate this new and non-toggleable "feature"!
It really hurts me to be forced to see @names on my screen and to show my own @name on every char to everybody.

Though not being a serious roleplayer I also like to dive into the universe of Nirn and Tamriel, and this came to an abrupt end today.
I can accept major bugs or epic Cyrodiil lags, nobody is perfect - but I don't feel up to accept this intenional alteration.

I used to love this game - but after removing alliance restrictions from PvP campaigns here they are introducing another change people did not ask for (at least it should be toggleable!) but that is able to destroy a lot of fun and passion for the game.
They are doing so many awesome things with the DLCs - but then, completely unnecessarily, they bring something that feels like a nightmare (a bit dramatically said, but yes) - for PvP before, now for role playing.

This is of course my personal point of view, but I am really feeling sad now. I hope they will correct their decision and give us the option to toggle the account names. But obviously they didn't even listen to PTS feedback.

craybest · June 2016

I think it could be annoying but it isn't game breaking to me or anything. Most MMOs have @handles shown, although many of them also have a way to hide them. But I think the toggle should be on the person who can choose if to see them o hide them all, not to hide their own one. griefers could just create characters and annoy others that way.

danno8 · June 2016

Hopefully addons will address it soon, and I can switch it off. It's fugly.

Asha_11_ESO · June 2016

I don't want to see it thanks. *Waits for addon...

Opeline · June 2016

Vangy wrote: »

As long as it goes both ways im fine with this. Ive had too many people "appearing offline" while sending hate tells. Or ignoring me and sending hate tells etc.

So if you ignore someone, you cant PM them.
If you appear offline, you also cannot communicate with anyone not in your friends list.
If you set your @name to be unviewable, you also cannot see others @names.

In this day and age, im sure coding these into the system cant be all that difficult.

This is exactly what I was proposing. If I can't see yours, you can't see mine unless you go the vanilla way and ignore me to see it..

BlueViolet · June 2016

I just hate it. It clutters up the UI and just annoys me in general. I don't want to see someone's @handle. Or how many CP's they have. Or that stupid little head outline icon. Or their titles.
I would like to see character name and nothing else. I don't care what people's @handles are. If you annoy me, I'll block you through the chat window or just use the radial menu. If I want to friend you, the same applies. Other than that, I have no interest in it.

The same goes for CP's - I don't give a crap how many people have. Why do I need to know that? And I'm sure as heck not interested in their titles either.
I would like a toggle for this rubbish please. I'm not interested in it, I don't like it, or want to see it and I don't care how long it's been visible with gamepad previously. I've never had to look at such inane nonsense above char heads before, and I'd prefer not to start now thanks very much.

Wreuntzylla · June 2016

Now everyone will know I am a girl irl. Stalkers and free stuf inc.

Korah_Eaglecry · June 2016

Opeline wrote: »

There is no meta-gaming when you are offline and come onto a new character though. What will be meta-gaming now though are those that are getting into the roleplaying scene, don't understand not to blurt something out and see the new nameplate feature and say something. That really kills the entire experience.

Then maybe set up a RP Crash Course for all new comers. I used to run one with the old Guild I was in on PC. Once every two weeks Id have new comers and even old timers come to a Class that would break down the concepts of RP, the general rules that are widely accepted amongst most RPers and then give them a chance to do a short story driven session to sort of practice with.

Before the class started Id let them know that everything that happened in the class would not be held against them or towards them after we went our separate ways at the end of that session.

Phinix1 · June 2016

If anyone is interested, I just updated the Azurah addon for Dark Brotherhood, and added an option under the target section not to show the @accountname for the target frame.

slowpoke68 · June 2016

Agreed and will be looking at the above listed add on.

Phinix1 · June 2016

slowpoke68 wrote: »

Agreed and will be looking at the above listed add on.

For people that might not be interested in a full-featured UI addon like Azurah, I have uploaded a tiny standalone addon called RP Target Frame which will simply remove the @accountname from the target frame with no configuration required whatsoever (besides making sure it is checked in your addon list).

Hope it helps!

Opeline · June 2016

Phinix1 wrote: »

slowpoke68 wrote: »

Agreed and will be looking at the above listed add on.

For people that might not be interested in a full-featured UI addon like Azurah, I have uploaded a tiny standalone addon called RP Target Frame which will simply remove the @accountname from the target frame with no configuration required whatsoever (besides making sure it is checked in your addon list).

Hope it helps!

You are a savior until they fix it base game side. Thank you so much!

DemonDruaga · June 2016

Still messing things up for those that have their real name build into the account name, privacy completly gone.
I'm glad that i just used a fantasy name for that, there isn't a need that everyone and their mother knows such things

BlueViolet · June 2016

Phinix1 wrote: »

slowpoke68 wrote: »

Agreed and will be looking at the above listed add on.

For people that might not be interested in a full-featured UI addon like Azurah, I have uploaded a tiny standalone addon called RP Target Frame which will simply remove the @accountname from the target frame with no configuration required whatsoever (besides making sure it is checked in your addon list).

Hope it helps!

Thank you SO much

Volkodav · June 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Each of us can choose if we see @names or character names if any nameplates at all. What I choose does not affect the immersion for someone else.
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How is this possible? Everyone here wants to know how to choose or not choose these things? Can you explain how we can choose what we see regarding another players nameplates?
Because I didnt like them when I was in the PTS,so I wont like them in my regular game.

Phinix1 · June 2016

RP Target Frame just got an update!

I added a simple configuration menu to Addon Settings, and the option to hide the @accountname from the player interaction frame as well (the one when you are close and it says "Press to interact" where you get the wheel to trade, whisper, etc.).

You can toggle hiding the @accountname from either independently.

If anyone finds any more places to hide it let me know.

KingYogi415 · June 2016

Why can't we choose our titles?
All they had had to do was add a toggle for character or account name; and third line for guild affiliation choice.

WTF ZOS!

Turelus · June 2016

If you trying to roleplay in ESO and this is the block for you then I think you have some bigger issues ahead.

I have roleplayed in a number of MMO's and generally issues like this are just things you ignore and focus on the roleplay. If you're gripe is that they look ugly sure I can accept that, or that you want an option to see others char names on plates rather than account names, sure as well.

This isn't a roleplaying issue though, it does nothing to to hamper roleplay.

Volkodav · June 2016

Phinix1 wrote: »

RP Target Frame just got an update!

I added a simple configuration menu to Addon Settings, and the option to hide the @accountname from the player interaction frame as well (the one when you are close and it says "Press to interact" where you get the wheel to trade, whisper, etc.).

You can toggle hiding the @accountname from either independently.

If anyone finds any more places to hide it let me know.

Thank you for this.I'll add it when my game finishes patching.

bloodenragedb14_ESO · June 2016

Grao wrote: »

We had a topic in the PTS section begging ZOS to give us this option... But nope...

im noticing a pattern

numerous people ask for something

ZOS responds, telling you why their way is better

rinse and repeat

its like they think we are 5

Nermy · June 2016

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

Grao wrote: »

We had a topic in the PTS section begging ZOS to give us this option... But nope...

im noticing a pattern

numerous people ask for something

ZOS responds, telling you why their way is better

rinse and repeat

its like they think we are 5

Have ZoS responded and said why we NEED to see nameplates?

Personally I hate them and only have them turned on for enemies in Cyro. The idea being, if you have a nameplate, I will attack you! (That's how much I hate them... lol)

Thanks for updating add-ons to turn them off btw, the add-on community as ever, is our saviour!

Osteos · June 2016

Many of us have asked for a toggle to turn it off. I'm not a role player and I don't want to see anyones @name. The common response is "it wasn't a secret" well I don't care about that either. It looks cluttered and crappy with it and I would like the option to turn it off.

Eiagra · June 2016

The only thing I can think of is that this is intended to make screenshots and video evidence more useful when reporting trolls (amongst RPers) and exploiters (amongst PvP/PvE), evidence which would then be directly submitted to ZOS (since posting it on the forums gets a name-and-shame lock).

Not sure if this functionality is worth the trade-off of irritating the larger sum of the Social quarter of Bartle's Taxonomy...

There really isn't a compromise that can be reached... not that I can think of. Either it's turned on, and you're making roleplayers angry, or it's turned off and you're making it harder to pinpoint problem users.

Unless there's some other reason this was implemented? Can we get a little developer feedback on why this particular feature was added? For example, who asked for it? How voluble were they when requesting this feature? Moreso than the voices opposing it?

If there's a strong enough argument for it, some folk might be willing to shrug it off and either ignore it or work around it (i.e. use addons to hide it so it at least doesn't spoil their experience as much).

InvitationNotFound · June 2016

there's already another thread here:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/268654/give-me-an-option-to-hide-my-name/p1

my opinion can be found here:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3027801/#Comment_3027801

short version here (regarding my opinion): using an account name in game in itself is a bad idea from a security perspective. not much has changed as you were already before this patch able to get in possession of other players account names. anyway, displaying it right over your head shouldn't be thing at all...

Kendaric · June 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

RPers have no basis to be upset about @ names being visible other than looking for a reason to rage. The RP community has an in character and out of character discussion. If a player brings in a new character that is to be unknown they would RP they do not know who it is when IC. When OOC, anything goes in conversation.

Each of us can choose if we see @names or character names if any nameplates at all. What I choose does not affect the immersion for someone else.

At that, name plates of some sort if fairly common in MMOs. I understand some may prefer their name not be visible at all, but nameplates are a fairly common part of most MMOs. While I have often chosen to have nameplates turned off in other games, I think it is a great idea to have them as a choice.

That's beside the point @Giles.floydub17_ESO.

I don't care if people see my @name, if they choose to but I don't want to be forced to see their @name. Seeing people's @names should be a toggle. It's not just about immersion, it's about having options.

Bluepitbull13 · June 2016

The removal of the addon groupdamage was "rage inducing" to me, so live with it

Kendaric · June 2016

Phinix1 wrote: »

RP Target Frame just got an update!

I added a simple configuration menu to Addon Settings, and the option to hide the @accountname from the player interaction frame as well (the one when you are close and it says "Press to interact" where you get the wheel to trade, whisper, etc.).

You can toggle hiding the @accountname from either independently.

If anyone finds any more places to hide it let me know.

Thanks @Phinix1

Can you by chance get rid of the fugly block icon as well? Or is that not possible?