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The automatic perma-bans

  • IxSTALKERxI
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    How long ago were you guys emperor?
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  • olsborg
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  • InvitationNotFound
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    Just a quick update for everyone regarding the recent influx of those using third party tools to cheat in ESO. We've adjusted our automatic anti-cheat systems to focus specifically on the cheats we've seen in the last few days, in addition to launching investigations on specific players. We've permanently banned 43 players in the last 24 hours who were found to be cheating.
    Erondil wrote: »
    There is a system where people get automatic ban if they got a certain amount of report for the same reason. That works for "offensive" char names and zos might have enabled it for ultimate cheat. If they did people too dumb to notice somebody is emperor, or just salty can report someone and get him banned although no third party program was used. Thats what happened to some people yesterday.

    So you say that their high-end anti-cheat system is actually parsing the complaints sent by players? resulting in bans? Actually, I wouldn't be surprised. I think i have to write a few complaints tonight :lol:

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  • Azurya
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    Nobody gets banned for nothing!

    They see your logs, remember that, you "innocent"!

    and you thought you would get along with that,

    and now you are crying! How funny is that! LoL
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  • Minnesinger
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    Just saying an emperor is as possible cheater as anyone else. Because I don´t know anything about this case I let ZOS do their work. Apparently, there are many players who did cheat and got banned.
    Edited by Minnesinger on May 31, 2016 9:27AM
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  • Grabmoore
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    So no leaching Banana Squad the next days backdooring a keep of red and blues fighting? Sounds like a good day to me :)
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  • Vangy
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    Asmael wrote: »
    Nobody gets banned for nothing!

    They see your logs, remember that, you "innocent"!

    and you thought you would get along with that,

    and now you are crying! How funny is that! LoL

    The world is made of sugar and carebears roam the streets. TESO is a stable, bug-free game, no anti-cheat system has ever failed, 100% of the bans in the world are legit, one way or another.

    And you should stop skooma too.

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  • Valencer
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    Emperors getting auto-banned for having 2x ulti gain and next update using gap closers will be considered an exploit.

    They might as well start auto-banning people for daring to log into the game at all at this rate. :D
  • themdogesbite
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    Grabmoore wrote: »
    So no leaching Banana Squad the next days backdooring a keep of red and blues fighting? Sounds like a good day to me :)

    No bans besides @AyelineESO (reason i dont know since i haven't set foot in cyro since this stuff started.) Enjoy trying to cap some keeps, dont be suprised if they magically turn yellow though. ;)
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  • Valencer
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    Wollust wrote: »
    I find it kinda stupid that they only adjusted their anti cheat stuff to detect the ult gain when people might be using it in a smart way and increasing their regen and other things. From what is known it seems possible to use the cheat engine in a more subtle manner.

    But well, ZoS will be ZoS.

    How this kind of stuff can be screwed around with on the client side is beyond me. You'd think they would keep this data in a server-based database. People's gear and stats and everything.
    Edited by Valencer on May 31, 2016 10:17AM
  • Nafirian
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    How long ago were you guys emperor?

    One of people who got banned was emp on Non cp a few times in the last 2-3 days @Tower_Of_Shame
  • kuro-dono
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    MoeCoastie wrote: »
    If you are wrongfully banned, there is a process to appeal. Im sure if you were banned on the basis of a technicality, it will be discovered upon further review. These types of threads are usually BS and a desperate attempt by cheaters to fish for sympathy and possible excuses to mask their guilt.

    exacly this> all the 3 day bans they gave during the crafting writh survey maps, 100% of them was legit and right. so all those who pretended that they didnt know were just liars. all that crying and whining that we didnt exploit. BS
  • Armitas
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    Erondil wrote: »
    Warm Regards,
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    Lol warm regards?

    I probably would not use the tavas set for a while.
    Edited by Armitas on May 31, 2016 11:18AM
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  • Abra
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    LOL
    Erondil wrote: »
    Emperors that never used Third party program getting perma-banned and receive :
    We’ve noticed some unusual behavior on this account related to Ultimate Abilities. As a result, we regret to inform you that this account has been permanently disabled and will no longer be eligible to participate in any ZeniMax Online services.

    If you wish to appeal this ban, you may do so by taking the following steps:

    • Open the Support page on the official ESOTU website and click on Email or contact Customer Support here.
    • Once the support e-mail opens, choose Account / Billing under "What kind of problem are you experiencing?"
    • Choose "I Would Like to appeal a suspension/ban." from the Select a Subcategory dropdown menu.
    • Describe the problem in the space provided.
    • Click Submit Question to send the appeal to Customer Support.


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  • Master_Kas
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    Nafirian wrote: »
    Nafirian wrote: »

    Ban inc, drop the emp fam :D

    I was legitimately surprised i wasn't banned when i woke up. The amount of meteors into tether into liek 4 more meteors i pulled off yesterday was insane. Thanks ZOS Don't ban me yet :(

    Careful. Daryn was emp on saturday and got banned yesterday I think.

    You are not safe yet :trollface:
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  • Master_Kas
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    Sheey wrote: »
    I got banned as well. Throwed 4ulti same time as emp in the past xd

    You got banned for dropping ults in the past as emp? oO

    Clouding swarm -> Clouding swarm -> Dawnbreaker of smiting -> Dawnbreaker of smiting :trollface:

    Big boss the dark phoenix still is in agony <3
    Edited by Master_Kas on May 31, 2016 10:47AM
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  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Sheey wrote: »
    I got banned as well. Throwed 4ulti same time as emp in the past xd

    You got banned for dropping ults in the past as emp? oO

    Clouding swarm -> Clouding swarm -> Dawnbreaker of smiting -> Dawnbreaker of smiting :trollface:

    ssshhhh everyone knows its hax!

    Or... maybe it's the Dunning-Kruger-effect?
    Edited by r.jan_emailb16_ESO on May 31, 2016 10:50AM
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  • Kas
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    wow, now i'm very happy i was too lazy to reset ice comet to shooting star the last time i was emp ^^
    that said, maybe it's time to rethink shooting start - emp interaction, anyway.
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  • OrphanHelgen
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    My guild have been planning on trying to reach top scores in trials for a long time.
    We finally got our best player together and started with getting to know eachother in some AA runs.
    We got to top 4 EU, and this random guy starts whispering one of us, saying we cheat to get the score, and start accusing and spread rumors about us.
    We was in AA for 3,5 hours yesterday, with our best players in a progression guild. And gets accused by this.

    I understand its easy to accuse, and I dont take it personal. Just sharing experience about what happends when stuff like this is out there.
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  • hrothbern
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    Valencer wrote: »
    The guys I've seen mentioned here as being auto-banned are really good players. People instantly assuming they were in fact really cheating is just... typical.

    Somebody being auto banned is a suspect... and "taken in custody", losing his freedom of movement.
    He is not (yet) condemned.


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  • Turelus
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    Erondil wrote: »
    There is a system where people get automatic ban if they got a certain amount of report for the same reason. That works for "offensive" char names and zos might have enabled it for ultimate cheat. If they did people too dumb to notice somebody is emperor, or just salty can report someone and get him banned although no third party program was used. Thats what happened to some people yesterday.

    Unless you're saying this was implemented yesterday I call BS on this.

    I have sat on on a TS server had seen/heard a raid of 30+ people all report a single player for "exploiting" and nothing happened. Also wasn't the leader of a dueling guild recently mass reported and didn't get banned?
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  • Erondil
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Erondil wrote: »
    There is a system where people get automatic ban if they got a certain amount of report for the same reason. That works for "offensive" char names and zos might have enabled it for ultimate cheat. If they did people too dumb to notice somebody is emperor, or just salty can report someone and get him banned although no third party program was used. Thats what happened to some people yesterday.

    Unless you're saying this was implemented yesterday I call BS on this.

    I have sat on on a TS server had seen/heard a raid of 30+ people all report a single player for "exploiting" and nothing happened. Also wasn't the leader of a dueling guild recently mass reported and didn't get banned?

    This system is used for offensives char names, if a player gets reported x amount of times for a char name he gonna have a name change+ a warning automatically. I'm pretty sure (its only assumption tho) they can enable it when they want for whatever kind of rulebreaking action. This or they dont know how their game works and what an emp can do.
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  • Ishammael
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    All criminals claim they are innocent.
    All hackers do so too.
    Enjoy your permabans, cheaters.
    Ankaridan wrote: »
    Oh, come on. 43 people are banned and they just happen to have banned innocents in that?

    Not too long ago with the survey exploit scam, ZOS pointed out there were no innocent bans and not to believe the waves of forum posts.

    And I'd honestly be surprised if we weren't expecting dozens of 'emperors' claiming innocently to have been banned now that they're taking care of exploiters. Don't be fooled.
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    Aprodite wrote: »
    I took notice of this treat and I am not suprised this will happen. If your emp hasn't cheat, don't worry he will get his account back. Otherwise cyro is better without cheaters.

    Are you guys for real? Utterly atrocious comments. The witch hunt is on, the fire is burning, and y'all are casting people in with zero proof.

    Regardless, these comments, false bans, false accusations are case in point why Zazeer's actions were so misguided.

    The ESP PvP community has devolved to new lows and toxicity.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_TristanK @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler y'all need to act fast, release a statement and take some corrective measures. Be clear, firm, and unwavering. Members of my guild have now also been falsely banned -- @Azurethe . In fact, we were discussing on TS how it is probably best not to be playing right now because none of us want to get our accounts falsely banned.
  • InvitationNotFound
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    All I'll say is this.

    A guildie I know got banned, and ZOS was able to know that he had been running the program since 2015 because they do log what interacts and hooks the game executable. I only know this because I know someone who was working directly with ZOS on helping catch these people.

    If you got banned you got banned because at some point you had used such a program and they are going back a very long time in those logs now that they know how to find it...sorry in this case Those banned are 99.9% sure not innocent. they have logs to know what you had hooking the game client, there are no innocents this time around. They are also going back as far as 2014, if you ever installed it used such a program they will know.

    Yes they do log what programs interact and hook the game exe. They are not as clueless as many here seem to think they are

    Didn't your friend sign any sort of NDA and isn't allowed to talk about that? ;)
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