@ZOS Can you make sure Craft Bag Confirmed 100% working?

GRYM.LOCKE · May 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@Wrobel

Can you please confirm you will be backing up EVERY ones Character and mat before tomorrow patch please? and the craft bag is fully working

Last thing i want is a fight with Support Stating " sorry we cant help if you lost items"

Kartalin · May 2016

The only reason items were lost on PTS were because of template characters, as far as I know.

GRYM.LOCKE · May 2016

Kartalin wrote: »

The only reason items were lost on PTS were because of template characters, as far as I know.

Still want to make sure they have a plan because if you had as much saved a I do and many others....... you would be cautious as well

Ryuuhime · May 2016

Do they have a way to know what items you lost, in case you do lose them due to the crafting bags? I might take some screenshots of my crafting stuff just in case...

GRYM.LOCKE · May 2016

18 screenshots taken

staracino_ESO · May 2016

There are several precautions I would advise:
1) If you have any materials marked as junk on any characters, unmark them before the patch. Marking as junk has been known to cause stacking issues in the past, and I wouldn't risk having it bug out your new bag.

2) Take a rough inventory of your materials across your account. Perhaps use screenshots if you like. This way you will be able to tell at a glance if anything is missing.

3) Don't forget that the bag will not pull from a characters inventory until you first log into them after the patch. Your first log in will grab that character and your account bank, but your alts will still have their stuff until you log over to them.

4) If you are really paranoid, take your most valuable materials: your tempers and rare motif pieces, and mail them to someone and have them return them. Then, keep the mail in your inbox to be retrieved after the patch goes live and everything settles.

Lenikus · May 2016

GRYM.LOCKE wrote: »

18 screenshots taken

This guy has the right idea.

Lysette · May 2016

The way to go here is - not playing on the patch day and watch the forums closely for any threads about lost items due to crafting bags - if none are there for a while, then you can start playing.

InvitationNotFound · May 2016

as with everything in live, there is no 100% certainty. if it comes to ZOS i would expect a few nasty bugs with the next dlc. now feel free to bet if the bugs hit the crafting bags.

Fortunately for me, I'm not subbing anymore and most likely won't buy the dlc so i won't run into this one. they will have to fix their game first before they see any additional coins coming from my pocket.

DannyLV702 · May 2016

Lysette wrote: »

The way to go here is - not playing on the patch day and watch the forums closely for any threads about lost items due to crafting bags - if none are there for a while, then you can start playing.

But what if everyone takes your advice!!

MaxwellC · May 2016

Lol @GRYM.LOCKE You actually want ZOS to do their job and TEST things?!....Such Blasphemy!

GRYM.LOCKE · May 2016

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

Lol @GRYM.LOCKE You actually want ZOS to do their job and TEST things?!....Such Blasphemy!

but.... but..... but i love my shineys dont wana loose em

SirKool · May 2016

Being new here and reading the threads about PTS am starting to get worried about how this company patches and tests.

1. They put something new on test server.
2. People test and put bug exploit reports in.
3. The company gives date PTS will be transferred to live!
4. Testing continues more bug exploits reported.
5. Players start to complain about exploits on forums.
6. Mods reply and thanks for posts but told to put bug report in.
7. Players respond louder and beg mods to get the exploit fixed.
8. Patch goes in on time and then things explode.
9. Starts all over again with next PTS patch, go to 1.

Has this company ever delayed a patch/DLC because of exploits?

Also did I get my 1 to 9 points right and is this how it always runs?

Sorry for post if it seems like complaining, just little worried wasting money on a broken game!

k9mouse · May 2016

I am putting my craft mats in my gbanks to be safe for a while before I move them over to the craft bag.

Kartalin wrote: »

The only reason items were lost on PTS were because of template characters, as far as I know.

That is what I heard as well.

InvitationNotFound · May 2016

SirKool wrote: »

Has this company ever delayed a patch/DLC because of exploits?

Also did I get my 1 to 9 points right and is this how it always runs?

i don't think that they every delayed a dlc. dlc's are money and they want money.
regarding your points. well, bugs are reported and rarely fixed. at least that's my opinion about it.

if you're referring to the ulti spam, speedhacks etc.:
that has nothing to do with pts. that's actually the current live state of the game. enjoy.

Lysette · May 2016

SirKool wrote: »

Being new here and reading the threads about PTS am starting to get worried about how this company patches and tests.

1. They put something new on test server.
2. People test and put bug exploit reports in.
3. The company gives date PTS will be transferred to live!
4. Testing continues more bug exploits reported.
5. Players start to complain about exploits on forums.
6. Mods reply and thanks for posts but told to put bug report in.
7. Players respond louder and beg mods to get the exploit fixed.
8. Patch goes in on time and then things explode.
9. Starts all over again with next PTS patch, go to 1.

Has this company ever delayed a patch/DLC because of exploits?

Also did I get my 1 to 9 points right and is this how it always runs?

Sorry for post if it seems like complaining, just little worried wasting money on a broken game!

The problem is simple - the test environment is less complex than the live server - so it can be, that things work fine on the PTS with it's minor load and complexity, but might not function in the same way on the live server under production load. So there is always a risk, that stuff, what works fine on the PTS might cause issues on the live server.

Edit.: and if you are new to ESO, just take your time - most of that stuff people complain about is not effecting your gameplay for quite some time and until you will get there, they might be ironed out already. Just don't rush through the base game content and enjoy your stay.

Runs · May 2016

staracino_ESO wrote: »

4) If you are really paranoid, take your most valuable materials: your tempers and rare motif pieces, and mail them to someone and have them return them. Then, keep the mail in your inbox to be retrieved after the patch goes live and everything settles.

If anyone in NA PC doesn't know anyone they can do this with, I can help. Feel free to send the most valuable materials to Runs just Runs no @ . I will make sure the items safely get added to my craft bags when the server is back up.

gkitti7 · May 2016

Runs wrote: »

staracino_ESO wrote: »

4) If you are really paranoid, take your most valuable materials: your tempers and rare motif pieces, and mail them to someone and have them return them. Then, keep the mail in your inbox to be retrieved after the patch goes live and everything settles.

If anyone in NA PC doesn't know anyone they can do this with, I can help. Feel free to send the most valuable materials to Runs just Runs no @ . I will make sure the items safely get added to my craft bags when the server is back up.

Yea, because it's not like the mail system has ever glitched or anything

AlnilamE · May 2016

SirKool wrote: »

Being new here and reading the threads about PTS am starting to get worried about how this company patches and tests.

1. They put something new on test server.
2. People test and put bug exploit reports in.
3. The company gives date PTS will be transferred to live!
4. Testing continues more bug exploits reported.
5. Players start to complain about exploits on forums.
6. Mods reply and thanks for posts but told to put bug report in.
7. Players respond louder and beg mods to get the exploit fixed.
8. Patch goes in on time and then things explode.
9. Starts all over again with next PTS patch, go to 1.

Has this company ever delayed a patch/DLC because of exploits?

Also did I get my 1 to 9 points right and is this how it always runs?

Sorry for post if it seems like complaining, just little worried wasting money on a broken game!

I have not kept up with the PTS forum as much as I should, but my understanding is that the exploit people are up in arms about is currently on LIVE, not on the PTS, so delaying the DLC is not going to do anything to fix that.

MissBizz · May 2016

staracino_ESO wrote: »

There are several precautions I would advise:
1) If you have any materials marked as junk on any characters, unmark them before the patch. Marking as junk has been known to cause stacking issues in the past, and I wouldn't risk having it bug out your new bag.

2) Take a rough inventory of your materials across your account. Perhaps use screenshots if you like. This way you will be able to tell at a glance if anything is missing.

3) Don't forget that the bag will not pull from a characters inventory until you first log into them after the patch. Your first log in will grab that character and your account bank, but your alts will still have their stuff until you log over to them.

4) If you are really paranoid, take your most valuable materials: your tempers and rare motif pieces, and mail them to someone and have them return them. Then, keep the mail in your inbox to be retrieved after the patch goes live and everything settles.

Bingo. Also, for #4. Make sure it's someone you REALLY trust. lol Or maybe send it COD with a value WAY higher than what the mats are for. They won't want to accept that

Personally, I'm taking screenshots and that's all.

Sunburnt_Penguin · May 2016

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

as with everything in live, there is no 100% certainty. if it comes to ZOS i would expect a few nasty bugs with the next dlc. now feel free to bet if the bugs hit the crafting bags.

Fortunately for me, I'm not subbing anymore and most likely won't buy the dlc so i won't run into this one. they will have to fix their game first before they see any additional coins coming from my pocket.

Shhh.. This was my tactic.

Mr.Hmm · May 2016

GRYM.LOCKE wrote: »

18 screenshots taken

That's the way to save time for both ZoS support and yourself.

Screenshots is the perfect way of showing what you had before they randomly disappeared.

That said i have 26 Screenshots across all my character with materials, i cant wait for the crafting bag and put everything in there.

Smileybones · May 2016

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STEVIL · May 2016

Ryuuhime wrote: »

Do they have a way to know what items you lost, in case you do lose them due to the crafting bags? I might take some screenshots of my crafting stuff just in case...

SHADOWPLAY.

Start video
Go thru all characters as one solid video.
skills, inventories, banker, etc.
if you have a craft addon likely can also show the across character totals.
lots quicker than screen caps lkike i used to do.

and, yeah, done.

Ryuuhime · May 2016

STEVIL wrote: »

Ryuuhime wrote: »

Do they have a way to know what items you lost, in case you do lose them due to the crafting bags? I might take some screenshots of my crafting stuff just in case...

SHADOWPLAY.

Start video
Go thru all characters as one solid video.
skills, inventories, banker, etc.
if you have a craft addon likely can also show the across character totals.
lots quicker than screen caps lkike i used to do.

and, yeah, done.

Now that's a great idea! Much faster than screenshotting indeed, thank you for the tip.

GRYM.LOCKE · May 2016

Smileybones wrote: »

Priceless!!

not long now few hours till maintenance begins

rootimus · May 2016

GRYM.LOCKE wrote: »

Can you please confirm you will be backing up EVERY ones Character and mat before tomorrow patch please? and the craft bag is fully working