Final: Craft Bags for ESO plus members only! Please, share your opinion about the rest of us.

Arkvoril · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

If you want the bag support ZOS......so

sekou_trayvond wrote: »

It's a brilliant move by ZoS to induce subs.

And I for one can't wait to bask in my roomy bank space.

I feel like a parent getting ready for their kid to head off to college and trying to determine what to make of Junior's old space. Exercise room? Entertainment room?

+1

If you want the bag, support the game!

MaddPowered · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

I am not paying 18$ a month for nothing you know

clocksstoppe · May 2016

MaddPowered wrote: »

I am not paying 18$ a month for nothing you know

You pay that for crowns and exp/gold boost.

RandalMarrs · May 2016

Allow Inventory space to be increased for the price of gold beyond the 140 space limit.

This is far from pay to win. More like pay for convenience. Let's not make mountains out of molehills.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2016

Very odd that people associate subscriptions with supporting the company but exclude people who buy1500 or more in crowns each month as supporting the company.

Or those who buy 5000+ crowns every 3 months as not supporting the company.
If you think those customers shouldn't have access to the bag too, your very closed minded

Xjcon · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

How many slots do you need per character? At max I have 200 per. Would it be bad for the game if they added more space in people's inventory? I don't think so. But would like to hang on to my exclusive benefit for awhile since I stayed subscribed since I started playing while so many jumped to the free band wagon.

TheSpin · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

If you get more inventory now, you'll need even more later. It's not a long-term solution to add 100 slots. From my perspective you either need to bite the bullet and sub or stick to character swapping to manage all of your inventory. Be happy that you can buy some more character slots.

johu31 · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

It's about time eso+ gets a buff.

bedlom · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

If you really want my opinion here it is... get eso plus.

Acrolas · May 2016

Allow Inventory space to be increased for the price of gold beyond the 140 space limit.

We still need the bank raised from 240 slots to 320 slots for now.
It seems like a large jump, but it's only a 10-point increase: 30 slots to 40 slots per character.

If you buy all four available character slot upgrades, that's going to decrease from 30 slots to 20 slots per character at 240. With 320 slots you'd get an average of 26.

WoW gives each character a basic bank of 28 spaces before any upgrades. That roughly what we have maxed out. Bag/mount inventory is okay and probably doesn't need an increase any time in the next five years. But the shared bank created problems that are not okay to shrug away by creating a loophole for just part of the population.

Xjcon · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Very odd that people associate subscriptions with supporting the company but exclude people who buy1500 or more in crowns each month as supporting the company.

Or those who buy 5000+ crowns every 3 months as not supporting the company.
If you think those customers shouldn't have access to the bag too, your very closed minded

If someone is willing to buy 5000 crowns every 3 months why wouldn't they be willing to pay 15$ a month for a sub?

Volkodav · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

Fukutsu wrote: »

@Taisynn

Hey we pretty much have all agreed that the Craft Bag should be an exclusive.
Also, I think most people think its bull crap that ESO plus members don't get the DLC's included.

I dont understand. We subbers do get the DLCs included in our subscriptions.
Or am I misreading your comment?

NewBlacksmurf · May 2016

Xjcon wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Very odd that people associate subscriptions with supporting the company but exclude people who buy1500 or more in crowns each month as supporting the company.

Or those who buy 5000+ crowns every 3 months as not supporting the company.
If you think those customers shouldn't have access to the bag too, your very closed minded

If someone is willing to buy 5000 crowns every 3 months why wouldn't they be willing to pay 15$ a month for a sub?

Better question is why would they sub.....that's the point. They own everything and buy crown store stuff to play.

Each customer has different desires but why play keep away with features if you're ZOS. It's illogical

nimander99 · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

I hope this forces all you cheap bastids to pay some money which makes our game better in the long run. Stop being so cheap.

nimander99 · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

Inventory increase should only occur when new mats/collectables/items needed to carry occurs.

Elvent · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

I was going to choose the first option but it sounded too mean, at least in this option freebies have a way to increase their bag space even if its only a few more slots.

I do think the crafted bag only available to ESO subscribers is a good perk and will make me stay subscribed even more since I'll have more of a reason too. Bag space has been a major problem for me with my mains bags maxed and my bank maxed slots.

This is going to solve the only problem I have with the game.

ManwithBeard9 · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

The near infinite size of the Crafting Bag should be kept behind a continuous paywall. But there is no way they will never increase the bank or body bag space in game. It will go up again, how soon is the question.

Acrolas · May 2016

Allow Inventory space to be increased for the price of gold beyond the 140 space limit.

nimander99 wrote: »

I hope this forces all you cheap bastids to pay some money which makes our game better in the long run. Stop being so cheap.

Disney Infinity made a billion dollars in about three years.
Canceled.
Strong licenses, explosive initial growth.
Canceled.
Market leader in its genre.
Canceled.

There are so many huge and expensive variables outside the scope of my wallet that thinking that $15 or so a month is ever going to make a difference is... reckless. Popularity is a collective yet nebulous force, and if ZOS can't sustain it, that's not on me. That's entirely on them.

If it comes down to either listening to community sales cheerleaders or letting the sky fall, then by all means, let it fall. Because I've never seen a sales cheerleader in the know. Every single one does it for their own personal interest in the game as opposed to any solid financial proof.

Crafting bags, exclusive in-game club, sparkle hover ponies - there's no bait on the end of that hook that will ever make me change my position. ZeniMax can shut ZOS down next year if they want to, regardless of sales. I don't control the outcome, and neither does anyone else regardless of how many crowns they've purchased or how many months they've been subscribed. I will never be charitable toward ignorance. Nobody knows right now when this is all ending and for what reason.

My sub doesn't matter, and neither does yours.

Turelus · May 2016

Once again it is as simple as this.

If they make any changes to the game regarding inventory management which benefits non-sub players enough that they won't sub then there is literally no point in this crafting bag being sub only to start with.

The fact people are upset that it's a sub only item means it's hitting the right spot and that people without subs have seen something they want which is sub only and might convince them to sub.

Anything they change which makes someone still able to play for free and happy with others having the back goes against the idea of increasing/rewarding subs.

AmberLaTerra · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

Other players are getting the option to buy additional character slots in the crown store, it will be a simple matter to buy one or two and make one or two more mules.

Subscribers keep the game afloat and help pay for updates and fixes, something unique to them is deserved as long as it is not a P2W thing, and crafting bags are not P2W but just a perk that makes inventory management easier.

TheSpin · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Xjcon wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Very odd that people associate subscriptions with supporting the company but exclude people who buy1500 or more in crowns each month as supporting the company.

Or those who buy 5000+ crowns every 3 months as not supporting the company.
If you think those customers shouldn't have access to the bag too, your very closed minded

If someone is willing to buy 5000 crowns every 3 months why wouldn't they be willing to pay 15$ a month for a sub?

Better question is why would they sub.....that's the point. They own everything and buy crown store stuff to play.

Each customer has different desires but why play keep away with features if you're ZOS. It's illogical

I have an answer to this question: (Why would they sub if they already buy 5000 crowns every 3 months?)

To get a crafting bag!

Look at it from an accounting perspective. An active subscription counts as future money they can expect to have and they can financially plan based on the number of active subs. One-time purchases of crowns does not guarantee future purchases and cannot be included in financial planning. Big businesses don't just care about how much money they make, they care about how much money they will make in the future. This is especially important when presenting to stockholders or higher level managers. (Yes, I'm an accountant)

NewBlacksmurf · May 2016

TheSpin wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Xjcon wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Very odd that people associate subscriptions with supporting the company but exclude people who buy1500 or more in crowns each month as supporting the company.

Or those who buy 5000+ crowns every 3 months as not supporting the company.
If you think those customers shouldn't have access to the bag too, your very closed minded

If someone is willing to buy 5000 crowns every 3 months why wouldn't they be willing to pay 15$ a month for a sub?

Better question is why would they sub.....that's the point. They own everything and buy crown store stuff to play.

Each customer has different desires but why play keep away with features if you're ZOS. It's illogical

I have an answer to this question: (Why would they sub if they already buy 5000 crowns every 3 months?)

To get a crafting bag!

Look at it from an accounting perspective. An active subscription counts as future money they can expect to have and they can financially plan based on the number of active subs. One-time purchases of crowns does not guarantee future purchases and cannot be included in financial planning. Big businesses don't just care about how much money they make, they care about how much money they will make in the future. This is especially important when presenting to stockholders or higher level managers. (Yes, I'm an accountant)

@TheSpin
People are involved here. Some will, some won't some will never.

By tying a feature behind only one pay wall literally is the problem they had at launch which is why we have B2P, Sub option and crown options. It's illogical to sub for a bag if you're buying crowns outright.

Especially if you read my earlier responses that on Xbox one, if you sub, you don't get crowns and/or access to DLC or a mix of some but not all for the price. The main pushback I'm giving is due to this which isn't something ZOS can seem to understand or resolve with Microsoft.

ZOS also is creating their own problems because DLC shouldn't be in the crown store, it should be in the Xbox store. Also any account benefit should also be in the Xbox store instead of the greed ZOS has that forces you to buy things twice due to NA differ from EU servers for account based benefits.

ZOS' greed is going to be the reason they loose profit opportunities as again, you're dealing with people not idiots.

ManwithBeard9 · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

TheSpin wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Xjcon wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Very odd that people associate subscriptions with supporting the company but exclude people who buy1500 or more in crowns each month as supporting the company.

Or those who buy 5000+ crowns every 3 months as not supporting the company.
If you think those customers shouldn't have access to the bag too, your very closed minded

If someone is willing to buy 5000 crowns every 3 months why wouldn't they be willing to pay 15$ a month for a sub?

Better question is why would they sub.....that's the point. They own everything and buy crown store stuff to play.

Each customer has different desires but why play keep away with features if you're ZOS. It's illogical

I have an answer to this question: (Why would they sub if they already buy 5000 crowns every 3 months?)

To get a crafting bag!

Look at it from an accounting perspective. An active subscription counts as future money they can expect to have and they can financially plan based on the number of active subs. One-time purchases of crowns does not guarantee future purchases and cannot be included in financial planning. Big businesses don't just care about how much money they make, they care about how much money they will make in the future. This is especially important when presenting to stockholders or higher level managers. (Yes, I'm an accountant)

@TheSpin
People are involved here. Some will, some won't some will never.

By tying a feature behind only one pay wall literally is the problem they had at launch which is why we have B2P, Sub option and crown options. It's illogical to sub for a bag if you're buying crowns outright.

Especially if you read my earlier responses that on Xbox one, if you sub, you don't get crowns and/or access to DLC or a mix of some but not all for the price. The main pushback I'm giving is due to this which isn't something ZOS can seem to understand or resolve with Microsoft.

ZOS also is creating their own problems because DLC shouldn't be in the crown store, it should be in the Xbox store. Also any account benefit should also be in the Xbox store instead of the greed ZOS has that forces you to buy things twice due to NA differ from EU servers for account based benefits.

ZOS' greed is going to be the reason they loose profit opportunities as again, you're dealing with people not idiots.

What reason would there be to put the DLC for ZoS's game in someone else's store? So you can use other methods of payment that ZoS doesn't accept?

Volkodav · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

TheSpin wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Xjcon wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Very odd that people associate subscriptions with supporting the company but exclude people who buy1500 or more in crowns each month as supporting the company.

Or those who buy 5000+ crowns every 3 months as not supporting the company.
If you think those customers shouldn't have access to the bag too, your very closed minded

If someone is willing to buy 5000 crowns every 3 months why wouldn't they be willing to pay 15$ a month for a sub?

Better question is why would they sub.....that's the point. They own everything and buy crown store stuff to play.

Each customer has different desires but why play keep away with features if you're ZOS. It's illogical

I have an answer to this question: (Why would they sub if they already buy 5000 crowns every 3 months?)

To get a crafting bag!

Look at it from an accounting perspective. An active subscription counts as future money they can expect to have and they can financially plan based on the number of active subs. One-time purchases of crowns does not guarantee future purchases and cannot be included in financial planning. Big businesses don't just care about how much money they make, they care about how much money they will make in the future. This is especially important when presenting to stockholders or higher level managers. (Yes, I'm an accountant)

@TheSpin
People are involved here. Some will, some won't some will never.

By tying a feature behind only one pay wall literally is the problem they had at launch which is why we have B2P, Sub option and crown options. It's illogical to sub for a bag if you're buying crowns outright.

Especially if you read my earlier responses that on Xbox one, if you sub, you don't get crowns and/or access to DLC or a mix of some but not all for the price. The main pushback I'm giving is due to this which isn't something ZOS can seem to understand or resolve with Microsoft.

ZOS also is creating their own problems because DLC shouldn't be in the crown store, it should be in the Xbox store. Also any account benefit should also be in the Xbox store instead of the greed ZOS has that forces you to buy things twice due to NA differ from EU servers for account based benefits.

ZOS' greed is going to be the reason they loose profit opportunities as again, you're dealing with people not idiots.

What reason would there be to put the DLC for ZoS's game in someone else's store? So you can use other methods of payment that ZoS doesn't accept?

I was wondering about that bit. Why shouldnt the DLCs be in the crown store? I mean,sure,..put them in the XBOX store too,but not JUST there.

ManwithBeard9 · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

Volkodav wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

TheSpin wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Xjcon wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Very odd that people associate subscriptions with supporting the company but exclude people who buy1500 or more in crowns each month as supporting the company.

Or those who buy 5000+ crowns every 3 months as not supporting the company.
If you think those customers shouldn't have access to the bag too, your very closed minded

If someone is willing to buy 5000 crowns every 3 months why wouldn't they be willing to pay 15$ a month for a sub?

Better question is why would they sub.....that's the point. They own everything and buy crown store stuff to play.

Each customer has different desires but why play keep away with features if you're ZOS. It's illogical

I have an answer to this question: (Why would they sub if they already buy 5000 crowns every 3 months?)

To get a crafting bag!

Look at it from an accounting perspective. An active subscription counts as future money they can expect to have and they can financially plan based on the number of active subs. One-time purchases of crowns does not guarantee future purchases and cannot be included in financial planning. Big businesses don't just care about how much money they make, they care about how much money they will make in the future. This is especially important when presenting to stockholders or higher level managers. (Yes, I'm an accountant)

@TheSpin
People are involved here. Some will, some won't some will never.

By tying a feature behind only one pay wall literally is the problem they had at launch which is why we have B2P, Sub option and crown options. It's illogical to sub for a bag if you're buying crowns outright.

Especially if you read my earlier responses that on Xbox one, if you sub, you don't get crowns and/or access to DLC or a mix of some but not all for the price. The main pushback I'm giving is due to this which isn't something ZOS can seem to understand or resolve with Microsoft.

ZOS also is creating their own problems because DLC shouldn't be in the crown store, it should be in the Xbox store. Also any account benefit should also be in the Xbox store instead of the greed ZOS has that forces you to buy things twice due to NA differ from EU servers for account based benefits.

ZOS' greed is going to be the reason they loose profit opportunities as again, you're dealing with people not idiots.

What reason would there be to put the DLC for ZoS's game in someone else's store? So you can use other methods of payment that ZoS doesn't accept?

I was wondering about that bit. Why shouldnt the DLCs be in the crown store? I mean,sure,..put them in the XBOX store too,but not JUST there.

If you could access the crown store from somewhere besides in game, that would make sense. But all purchases must be made with crowns in game. So unless they allow you interaction with your in game account outside of game they wont change it.

Volkodav · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

TheSpin wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Xjcon wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Very odd that people associate subscriptions with supporting the company but exclude people who buy1500 or more in crowns each month as supporting the company.

Or those who buy 5000+ crowns every 3 months as not supporting the company.
If you think those customers shouldn't have access to the bag too, your very closed minded

If someone is willing to buy 5000 crowns every 3 months why wouldn't they be willing to pay 15$ a month for a sub?

Better question is why would they sub.....that's the point. They own everything and buy crown store stuff to play.

Each customer has different desires but why play keep away with features if you're ZOS. It's illogical

I have an answer to this question: (Why would they sub if they already buy 5000 crowns every 3 months?)

To get a crafting bag!

Look at it from an accounting perspective. An active subscription counts as future money they can expect to have and they can financially plan based on the number of active subs. One-time purchases of crowns does not guarantee future purchases and cannot be included in financial planning. Big businesses don't just care about how much money they make, they care about how much money they will make in the future. This is especially important when presenting to stockholders or higher level managers. (Yes, I'm an accountant)

@TheSpin
People are involved here. Some will, some won't some will never.

By tying a feature behind only one pay wall literally is the problem they had at launch which is why we have B2P, Sub option and crown options. It's illogical to sub for a bag if you're buying crowns outright.

Especially if you read my earlier responses that on Xbox one, if you sub, you don't get crowns and/or access to DLC or a mix of some but not all for the price. The main pushback I'm giving is due to this which isn't something ZOS can seem to understand or resolve with Microsoft.

ZOS also is creating their own problems because DLC shouldn't be in the crown store, it should be in the Xbox store. Also any account benefit should also be in the Xbox store instead of the greed ZOS has that forces you to buy things twice due to NA differ from EU servers for account based benefits.

ZOS' greed is going to be the reason they loose profit opportunities as again, you're dealing with people not idiots.

What reason would there be to put the DLC for ZoS's game in someone else's store? So you can use other methods of payment that ZoS doesn't accept?

I was wondering about that bit. Why shouldnt the DLCs be in the crown store? I mean,sure,..put them in the XBOX store too,but not JUST there.

If you could access the crown store from somewhere besides in game, that would make sense. But all purchases must be made with crowns in game. So unless they allow you interaction with your in game account outside of game they wont change it.

Thank you for the clarification.Sometimes I dont understand console things due to the fact that I dont play on console,and it can be confusing as to what they have available and what they do not.

TheSpin · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

@NewBlacksmurf

Thank you for some additional perspective. I was unaware that the xbox sub was more limited than others. I personally play on PS4 and my only complaint is that there are no multi-month subs.

Ultimately, however, I don't think the problem specifically with Xbox subs should be the sole factor to change the implementation of the crafting bags. The problem is with that particular subscription, not with this implementation.

If you ask me, it's time for ESO to merge all subscriptions to a non-platform specific model. Especially considering the recent news articles about xbox and ps4 discussing the possibility of allowing more cross-platform games. I think its only a matter of time before most console games are cross-console.

EZgoin76 · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

@TheSpin Xbox subs aren't limited in any way, shape or form. I think what NBS is referring to is that the first few months of the game being released for console, subscribers were not receiving their monthly crowns and was sometimes locked out of DLC's.

I spent four, maybe five months contacting ZOS and Microsoft with support tickets and e-mails until the problem was solved.
Unlike NBS who just gave up and canceled the sub. I now get my monthly crowns, like clockwork, every month on the 9th and haven't been locked out of DLC's since then either.

Now for the OP. Crafting bags should stay exclusive to subscribers but there should be an increase in inventory slots for non-subs to accommodate for the increase in mats. Though I really thought moving trophies was a step in that direction.

Dubhliam · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

Personofsecrets wrote: »

And this is how p2w slowly advances, with great applause

If having a large inventory is a win in your book, then by all means subscribe.

Bam_Bam · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

Taisynn wrote: »

I have rehashed this so many times.

When you outright buy the DLC, your perk is your forever access to it. You get it as long as the game lasts. Your investment can never be taken from you should you stop paying into the game.

Subscribers pay MORE overtime for access to these DLCs, and the moment we stop paying POOF no more access. That investment disappears along with the money we put into it.

Subscribers need a better perk than just three days off our research time, 10% exp bonus, and some gold incentive. These are practically nothing. So we get ONE nice thing for making sure the game has steady revenue every month. Without us this game would cease to exist.

So, stop with the "it's not fair," rhetoric. You want the crafting bag, pay the $15 a month.

And the crowns we get everymonth? Hardly enough to get anything nice. And we're paying more for them on average.

And this whole "privacy" argument about not wanting to use a credit card - go to your local game store, gas station, etc. and go buy an ESO plus card. That's what my boyfriend and I do.

I buy my sub AND buy crowns for the vanity items. Don't argue we don't do the same just because we sub.

Absolutely agreed 100%.