Final: Craft Bags for ESO plus members only! Please, share your opinion about the rest of us.

ArchMikem · May 2016

Allow a crown store purchase that increases normal inventory 100 spaces.

Miszou wrote: »

What's the point in increasing inventory for everyone? Just to lessen the value of ESO+ or so people don't feel left out?

Everyone gets a reward for participation, even if they just sat on the sidelines the entire time?

Even when participation costs $60 + the Console Multiplayer Subscription fees...

Cously · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

Crafting Bags adds value to the sub. It's definately one more thing that will keep me hooked up on it. I do want to increase my inventory and bank spaces however, there are many things I need to store that aren't crafting materials, and I'm not fond of alts so all crap stays on my one character, RP clothes, justice system trophies, possible useful gear, etc. I think both inventory space and bank should be capped at 500, they could find creative ways to make us reach that number. Also I can't imagine they will allow housing without some form of storage, gotta take that in consideration too.

Volkodav · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

Cously wrote: »

Crafting Bags adds value to the sub. It's definately one more thing that will keep me hooked up on it. I do want to increase my inventory and bank spaces however, there are many things I need to store that aren't crafting materials, and I'm not fond of alts so all crap stays on my one character, RP clothes, justice system trophies, possible useful gear, etc. I think both inventory space and bank should be capped at 500, they could find creative ways to make us reach that number. Also I can't imagine they will allow housing without some form of storage, gotta take that in consideration too.

Why should there even be a cap? I like the 500 spaces if we have to have one.But,I just think that if people want to buy 10 spaces at a time in the crown store,why not let them do so. Endless bags are doable for plus members,so why not let people buy endless amounts of bag space in the store too. Dont give them the endless bags that the ESO Plus players get,but let them keep gaining more space.

NovaMarx · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

As an ESO+ member, I feel the need to emphasise the fact that this bag is an incentive to keep us subbing, and to make others want to sub! As I and others have stated in many similar threads: ESO+ is a stable income for ZOS, as opposed to those who sporadically buy stuff/Crowns when they feel like it - so more subbers = more stable income = more future content/fixes/etc (no one works for free!). So I welcome anything that will make subbing more attractive!

That being said, I wouldn't "mind" if they added some more inventory for non-subbers, but there would have to be serious restrictions - like making it only purchasable from Crown Store, and making it less extensive than the ESO+ bag.

L2Pissue · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

its easy to go around the stupid crafting bags to save space.. you can have freaking 200 slots on 8 characters... thats 1600 space and thats without counting bank space. moaning is useless, as useless as the crafting bags.

sekou_trayvond · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

It's a brilliant move by ZoS to induce subs.

And I for one can't wait to bask in my roomy bank space.

I feel like a parent getting ready for their kid to head off to college and trying to determine what to make of Junior's old space. Exercise room? Entertainment room?

RandalMarrs · May 2016

Allow Inventory space to be increased for the price of gold beyond the 140 space limit.

Are there enough posts about this yet?

NeillMcAttack · May 2016

First off,
I have subbed pretty much constant since the game released on console. Crafting bags are going to guarantee that I remain subbed, probably until I no longer enjoy the game so much. Saying that, I would not be against some sort of option for players that craft and support the game through DLC purchases etc. Perhaps a 'loyalty system' that gives (let's call them casuals for now, and for a laugh) casual players that keep up to date with DLC purchases access to something similar to the craft bag without de-valuing the craft bag.

Let's face it, the craft bag is supposed to give a keen incentive for players to sub, and it will, so making it available to all with once off purchases or gold would be completely counter productive to what is the intended design.

Besides, if it is a once off payment to greatly increase inventory size that people want then, and I honestly can't understand why people won't agree that it is a completely valid option, just sub for a month and load all your mats into the bag. You will still be able to remove anything you want, you just won't be able to continue storing stuff into it. You're not even going to use the majority of the mats people are hoarding for a loooong time.

JKorr · May 2016

ArchMikem wrote: »

Miszou wrote: »

What's the point in increasing inventory for everyone? Just to lessen the value of ESO+ or so people don't feel left out?

Everyone gets a reward for participation, even if they just sat on the sidelines the entire time?

Even when participation costs $60 + the Console Multiplayer Subscription fees...

Anyone ever do a poll regarding how many console players EXCLUSIVELY play ESO and NO OTHER online game they need the console multiplayer sub fees for?

Because that would be the only reason to claim this. If you the only game you play online that needs the console sub fees for is this one. Unless I'm confused and you have to pay the xbox and psn fees for each game you play online? That would be more than just $60 a year.

dsalter · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

i like the crafting bags tho they really need to up space by atleast 20 or make disguises into costumes cause my banks got loads >.>

Fukutsu · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

@Taisynn

Hey we pretty much have all agreed that the Craft Bag should be an exclusive.
Also, I think most people think its bull crap that ESO plus members don't get the DLC's included. They seem to treat yall like garbage. I think ESO plus members should understand especially well, that there may not be enough incentive for new players to get ESO plus, when we can just buy the DLC and crowns. I am not going to sub for the Bag either. It's just not worth it.

I think adding 50 spaces via gold purchase is reasonable. It would help ESO plus members too.

@Iluvrien
Didn't mean to nit pick your post. I didn't even realize the increase space was because of new items. I still get the vibe from people, that the general view of increasing inventory via gold is something like:

"Since ESO plus members have had crap perks, we ESO plus members want to ignore that an increase inventory space of 50 would make the game better because it would make us feel less special about the craft bag."
Please don't feel attacked, I am trying to communicate as best I can.
I don't understand why the 50 space increase discussion, and this bag, are so closely tied together. I think the increase is good, but I mostly get bad feedback from ESO plus members. I feel like if they hadn't screwed the perks of ESO plus, we would be getting a different reaction. If that is true, than I feel like it validates that the inventory increase would otherwise be a sound move for the game.

@NeillMcAttack

We are not talking about making the bag available with gold, just an increased inventory via bag merchants.

You had one of the best posts so far with the idea of using a one month sub as quick use of the bag.
Sub for a month, get the perks for a month, get the bag for a month, and keep the items in the bag forever until needed. You would still get 1500 crowns plus an inventory liquidation. It's like a crown + temp. storage purchase.

Although this seems kinda similar to a crown store purchase, it would still keep the bag restricted to non eso plus.

Korah_Eaglecry · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

The point of the Crafting Bags is to entice players to get ESO + and to reestablish the value of the subscription. For two years now Crafters and every day Players alike have been able to get along with the current system and theyve even increased the inventory and banks in that time as well. Get a sub if you want the Crafting Bags. No one owes you anything if youre not willing to spend money and they dont have to compromise their steady profits for your unstable profits.

Fukutsu · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

The point of the Crafting Bags is to entice players to get ESO + and to reestablish the value of the subscription. For two years now Crafters and every day Players alike have been able to get along with the current system and theyve even increased the inventory and banks in that time as well. Get a sub if you want the Crafting Bags. No one owes you anything if youre not willing to spend money and they dont have to compromise their steady profits for your unstable profits.

Dude it's pretty clear that an ESO plus membership sucks.

I am willing to spend money. I have all the DLC's, the imperial upgrade, and I will be getting the new mount available at the end of the month. You guys are just butt hurt that you're treated like crap, and can't admit that increasing the bank or inventory cap, using the same gold transaction, would help the game overall.

Why would I ever want a sub to something that means I lose my skill lines and DLC's if I ever stop paying? I have them for life with the DLC. End of story. Especially after hearing how upset you guys are, I will not ever get ESO plus.

Gidorick · May 2016

Allow a crown store purchase that increases normal inventory 100 spaces.

The "We should have it and you shouldn't" attitude of this community confounds me.

ZOS should have never changed the subscription model if they were going to essentially hold our inventories hostage later on.

I have been buying all the DLCs , now I should essentially throw that money away and subscribe. Not thanks. I won't support these tactics. If anything these tactics will drive me away from ESO altogether.

wait... why are some of you cheering... aww....

RandalMarrs · May 2016

Allow Inventory space to be increased for the price of gold beyond the 140 space limit.

Not everyone needs to have the same things. I think many people support the idea of an alternative method of increasing inventory space that is outside of the new crafting bag. I believe they need to increase the option to increase bank and inventory space via gold and/or crown store purchases.

hydrocynus · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

If you pay more you should get more. Simple.

Thing I like about this one is you get no advantage over anyone that doesn't have it wrt in game competitiveness

It's like first class in a plane. We all get there same time but those that pay more get there with more comfort and very small conveniences.

Miszou · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

Either buy the subscription or don't. I really don't care. It's your money.

If you want the crafting bag, pay for it. But don't expect ZOS to start handing out bonus inventory space just because you don't want to pay for something. And don't expect them to put the most enticing money-maker in the store for a one-time purchase, just so you can get it cheaper in the long run.

If you want the perks of a subscription, then pay for the subscription. Otherwise, suck it up and move on.

The bag option is available to everyone. The End.

Makkir · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

The ESO+ membership rewards need beefing up anyway.

MasterSpatula · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

I re-subbed for the bags, so obviously I'm okay with the paradigm they've created.

If non-subs want to pay gold or Crowns to allow themselves to spend less time playing the Inventory Minigame, I support that. Limited inventory with a massive number of crafting materials has been a flaw in this game since Day 1.

Sausage · May 2016

This is what we as community wanted, people whined alot of sub not giving enough, so here we are. This sucks, Ive switched myself to DLCs, I can only hope one day we can buy that bag from a Crown Store.

ContraTempo · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

No matter what the perk they come up with for ESO+, if it is really desirable non-subs will also want it. And for some it will be absolutely essential so the game is just broken without it. Anything really worth having. So if ESO+ gets access to new fonts...no one cares. But if they gain the ability to teleport to anywhere on the map (not just wayshrines) the non-subs will scream. So there is no perk ZOS can give to ESO+ that actually makes the subscription worth getting but that won't upset a lot on non-subscribers.

Add in the fact that ZOS is a for-profit business and I conclude they will not be giving people a significantly cheaper way to get craft bags.

IMO raising the cap for inventory slots from the crown store seems reasonable and I saw an interesting proposal for renting a bag for crowns.

ContraTempo · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

Aimora wrote: »

Why is this being rehashed there was already a massive thread about this!

Because it wasn't a poll? And really, I like that this is a poll. Those wanting the bag for crowns have been VERY vocal about it and have often overwhelmed the discussions about it. I find it reassuring to see the actual numbers.

Tholian1 · May 2016

Allow a crown store purchase that increases normal inventory 100 spaces.

Unlimited crafting bags should only be for subscribers. I am okay with a limited increase of inventory slots for a fee as an option for non-subs.

Seraseth · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

I definitely think the crafting bag should be sub only, as has been rehashed in a bunch of different threads.

That said, every new dlc adds more and more sets, things to collect etc, that I think the inventory and/or bank hard caps should be increased on a regular basis as well, even if its only 10-30 at a time.

With the cost continuing to increase for each 10slot upgrade, and be purchasable in game or in crown store, just as it is now.

Players will still have to pay for the increases, by whichever method they prefer, and the bag remains a special perk. But it would help counter the increasing number of items added to each dlc.

clayandaudrey_ESO · May 2016

Well here is my plan. I have 6 mules and a guild bank full of mats. I will sub for 1 month to get the bag and dump everything I have into it. Unsub. Use my 30 days to get as much as possible. After 30 days go back to filling up my mules and guild bank. If and when I need to dump my storage I will sub for one month to clean out my storage to the bag. Thanks ZOS for the cheap inventory management.

Does that make the "it will make people sub" group feel better. You may get 15 bucks a year from me.

redspecter23 · May 2016

I was looking for the voting option to give craft bags to ESO+ members as they are now but allow others to buy the craft bags for crowns.

Tommy1979AtWar · May 2016

Allow Inventory space to be increased for the price of gold beyond the 140 space limit.

Taisynn wrote: »

Subscribers need a better perk than just three days off our research time, 10% exp bonus, and some gold incentive. These are practically nothing. So we get ONE nice thing for making sure the game has steady revenue every month. Without us this game would cease to exist.

I agree that subs should be entitled to both better and indeed more perks but saying the game wouldn't exist without you is overstating facts slightly, afterall if subs alone were capable of sustaining this cash grab on a much loved titles license by an inadequate studio then there would have been no need to go the B2P route. I doubt very much there'd be anywhere near the amount of dlc release without console launch and the B2P model.

By placing a much requested ease of use option behind a monthly sub pay wall after selling us the B2P model I personally feel I've been scammed yet again by Ubizo$, they've finally and completely turned this B2P customer off from purchasing any future crown store items or dlc, subscription model customers are welcome to the craft bags, you can also pay for my future ESO server usage from now because I certainly won't be subbing just because they're holding my inventory options hostage.

Korah_Eaglecry · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

Fukutsu wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

The point of the Crafting Bags is to entice players to get ESO + and to reestablish the value of the subscription. For two years now Crafters and every day Players alike have been able to get along with the current system and theyve even increased the inventory and banks in that time as well. Get a sub if you want the Crafting Bags. No one owes you anything if youre not willing to spend money and they dont have to compromise their steady profits for your unstable profits.

Dude it's pretty clear that an ESO plus membership sucks.

I am willing to spend money. I have all the DLC's, the imperial upgrade, and I will be getting the new mount available at the end of the month. You guys are just butt hurt that you're treated like crap, and can't admit that increasing the bank or inventory cap, using the same gold transaction, would help the game overall.

Why would I ever want a sub to something that means I lose my skill lines and DLC's if I ever stop paying? I have them for life with the DLC. End of story. Especially after hearing how upset you guys are, I will not ever get ESO plus.

Dude. Dont get it then.

Personofsecrets · May 2016

Allow Inventory space to be increased for the price of gold beyond the 140 space limit.

And this is how p2w slowly advances, with great applause

rotaugen454 · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

I require that a non-subbed peasant carry my unlimited crafting bag for me, following at a respectful 6 paces behind me...