Final: Craft Bags for ESO plus members only! Please, share your opinion about the rest of us.

Fukutsu · May 2016

Can there be any relief on the inventory restrictions for non ESO plus members? Some links to relevant polls included. Players and Developers agree that the Craft Bag should be an ESO plus exclusive. Option 1 means inventory rights for only ESO plus. By selecting 2,3, or 4, you support some sort of inventory increase that benefits everyone.

Fukutsu · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

PLEASE POST YOU THOUGHTS
Some old posts include:

Here are the upcoming bag space prices and total cost

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/201724/here-are-the-upcoming-bag-space-prices-and-total-cost

Do you like the idea of crafting bags for ESO+ Members?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/211462/do-you-like-the-idea-of-crafting-bags-for-eso-members#latest

Would a non eso plus craft bag be fair?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266692/would-a-non-eso-plus-craft-bag-be-fair#latest

Vangy · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

Remove cap on max inventory;

Everyone can upgrade their bag space via gold or via crown store x 10 bank/bag slot upgrade. This will allow ESO+ to retain their exclusive craft bag while everyone else can get more space via gold and crown store. This would make crafting bags a benefit rather than a necessity.

Miszou · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

They haven't been a "necessity" up until now either...

So no. If you want all the perks of ESO+, scrape up $15 a month or carry on as you are.

Miszou · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

What's the point in increasing inventory for everyone? Just to lessen the value of ESO+ or so people don't feel left out?

Everyone gets a reward for participation, even if they just sat on the sidelines the entire time?

thisisScoMan · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

I think crafting bags for ESO+ and lifting the bank cap to 500 and character cap to 300 would be a way to go.

Maybe higher caps for bank & character. (1000/500? - 2500/1000? How high would people want to go?)

Disclaimer: - Possibly an important one on this poll, I am a sub.

Fukutsu · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

Miszou wrote: »

What's the point in increasing inventory for everyone? Just to lessen the value of ESO+ or so people don't feel left out?

Everyone gets a reward for participation, even if they just sat on the sidelines the entire time?

Miszou wrote: »

They haven't been a "necessity" up until now either...

So no. If you want all the perks of ESO+, scrape up $15 a month or carry on as you are.

I think increasing inventory 10 at a time at the cost of 100k gold+ is a lot different than a bag without capacity limits. I buy every DLC, and content upgrade. Why shouldn't I be able to hold enough variety of items to practice every crafting skill on my character?

Through the community polls, everyone already agreed with the devs on this one. Craft bag only for ESO plus.

I really feel like the ESO plus community is overlooking the problem of inventory space just because they have been screwed with a lack of benefits. The bag would be a great benefit and I think you guys should push for more: custom ESO plus costumes, mounts, exclusive quests. Whatever you want! I love that you pay a fee and make the game I play better. You have my thanks! I will continue to buy DLC because that fits me better.

I think inventory still needs to be made available in some way, possibly gold, so that players have incentive to look in all the crates and check all of the crafting materials around the world. When inventory is full, there is no reason to click on the melon basket. you know? I am trying to push for something that makes the game more enjoyable for all of the players, and could lead to more ESO plus subs in the long run.

phaneub17_ESO · May 2016

Reduce the number of players required to have a guild bank to 1 person. That'll solve my issue.

phobossion · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

It will keep people like me subbed, so ZOS would be stupid if they would not make it a ESO+ only perk. Any other solution (including increasing the inv space for a high cost) will only keep people subbed until they acquire enough gold to unlock the increased limit, then if the ESO+ bag does not provide a tangible benefit, everyone would probably just unsub.

Woeler · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

Inventory is a pain. I've been subbed since the launch, and would at least like to see some convenience for me because I pay that is exclusive, but I also think they should maybe add some bank space, like 50 or so. Same to inventory.

Chelos · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

I'm ok with people having as much storage as they want to.
I would think an option to increase bank space beyond the current limit would be appreciated as well.
Especially with all the crafting materials and style materials you tend to collect over time being a crafter.

Wolfshead · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

I honest think that you as player can increasing inventory now work fine it is meaning to be money sinker and what about those of us who have already max out our inventory by buy upgrader in game would we get our money back then if make what you are propose?

We would mostlike not get our money back so i think it should stay as it is.

Beside ZoS most make ESO plus membersship feel more worth subscribe for as it stand now it is not basically worth it i have been subscribe to this game from day 1 this game went live and honest the reward we get as ESO plus membersship today is a *** joke as it stand now. I would love ZoS put some more effort in make ESO plus membersship more worth and this Craft Bags is good start for the more a ESO plus membersship benefit the put in the more money the get in end so it is win/win for everyone.

Fukutsu · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

phobossion wrote: »

It will keep people like me subbed, so ZOS would be stupid if they would not make it a ESO+ only perk. Any other solution (including increasing the inv space for a high cost) will only keep people subbed until they acquire enough gold to unlock the increased limit, then if the ESO+ bag does not provide a tangible benefit, everyone would probably just unsub.

So, if you get the craft bag as an exclusive and they increase the inventory space as follows
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NEW:
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You're telling me you're going to unsub all of a sudden? No way, I say.

Iluvrien · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

Fukutsu wrote: »

I really feel like the ESO plus community is overlooking the problem of inventory space just because they have been screwed with a lack of benefits. The bag would be a great benefit and I think you guys should push for more: custom ESO plus costumes, mounts, exclusive quests. Whatever you want! I love that you pay a fee and make the game I play better. You have my thanks! I will continue to buy DLC because that fits me better.

I think inventory still needs to be made available in some way, possibly gold, so that players have incentive to look in all the crates and check all of the crafting materials around the world. When inventory is full, there is no reason to click on the melon basket. you know? I am trying to push for something that makes the game more enjoyable for all of the players, and could lead to more ESO plus subs in the long run.

The lack of enough inventory to carry a stack of every item in the world is an intended feature. It is there to make you consider what you pick up, and which crafts you concentrate on, rather than just grabbing everything and work on progressing all crafts simultaneously.

Why on earth would they effectively gut that initial design decision by removing pretty much all of the limits on it by making it extensible for everyone?

I suspect the reason that people aren't subbed now has little to do with the lack of ability to extend inventory indefinitely. As such, I doubt this change would lead to many extra subs in the long run.

Volkodav · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

Keep the crafting bags for ESO Plus,but allow others to increase their bag spaces,..even more than it is now.Remove the cap so that people can buy more than the allowed amount of spaces in the crown store.
As it is,you can only buy so many spaces ,then no more.

pinkempyreal · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

I have subbed for almost every month (minus about 4 months or so when Fallout 4 launched) since beta. I am OK with sub only Crafting bags. Heck I feel I "deserve" more, such as the loyalty rewards we once got.
That being said I would be okay with the crafting bag being purchasable in the crown store. But perhaps I am one of the rare few on this forum who thinks that ZOS needs to make a profit to make the game great for everyone.
You must realize it's been over a year since the game went buy to play but it could be a lot worse we... could be play to win. Am I irritated that a costume will cost me more than $10? Yes. But that is just cosmetics and I know that big money McGee has no advantage over me.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2016

Neither of your options:
1. The ESO plus options should stay
2. The option to buy via crowns should exist too

Understand specifically for the Xbox One, if you sub for ESO plus, many of us, 100% of the time pay and don't get crowns and or are missing another benefit. We are required to open a ticket just to get things sorted out which can take another 48-72 hours at a min and in some cases for me, another 45 days.

They aren't fixing the problem so the 1500-5000 crown packs for Xbox one just need to offer an ESO plus benefit and the sun should be removed entirely from Xbox one. But that's not it, the DLC should not be via crowns and instead be via the Xbox store while vanity items should also be in the store. The crown store should only contain potions, exp scrolls, other consumables or character specific in-game options.

Fukutsu · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

@Iluvrien
This is ridiculous people; they added more bag space recently. It was an improvement. I think they should add more.
If increasing inventory by 50 is that gamebreaking, and it "guts" the intended design of the game, then the craft bag is a truly vile beast in the same regard.

I don't agree; the craft bag is awesome.
More inventory would be a good thing for everyone, not a game gutting abomination.

Turelus · May 2016

I think the bags being "unlimited" is too much, they should have had a cap or 200 or something, so it helps players but they still have to make a choice.

Otherwise I think they need to have something which is subscriber only, if they start selling this as items which non subscribers can buy it changes nothing in regards to being an intensive for people to subscribe. Everyone who doesn't sub because they don't think the sub benefits are worth it will just buy the bag with a one off payment then continue to play unsubbed.

ntheogenic · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

In the last poll I voted differently (make them available for non subs in the crown store).

After reading some of the comments in one of the other threads I change my vote.

If non subs are unwilling to allow subs to have a minor time saver (that's all that it will be for me)...

Then I do not ever want you guys to have it. Sorry.

Fukutsu · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

Hey everyone,

@ntheogenic
@Turelus

Part of the stipulation on this poll was that the Craft Bag stays as an ESO plus exclusive: everyone seems to agree there [80%].

We are talking about inventory still being an issue that needs to be addressed.

MikeB · May 2016

Allow Inventory space to be increased for the price of gold beyond the 140 space limit.

By being ESO+ exclusive they are giving a big middle finger to those that have bought every DLC and have spent lots more on vanity items, some exceeding what would have been given through ESO+ alone.

By not adding the craft bags to the crown store as a 1x purchase they may make those that support them more through direct purchases than a monthly sub, upset. Some to the point they may just stop purchasing anything. The monthly sub is a dying (dead?) breed and should not be supported.

Volkodav · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

Fukutsu wrote: »

@Iluvrien
This is ridiculous people; they added more bag space recently. It was an improvement. I think they should add more.
If increasing inventory by 50 is that gamebreaking, and it "guts" the intended design of the game, then the craft bag is a truly vile beast in the same regard.

I don't agree; the craft bag is awesome.
More inventory would be a good thing for everyone, not a game gutting abomination.

The game has been fine without the craft bags so far though.
If they gave it only to subs,it wouldnt be a "game gutting abomination",..just the continuation of the inventory as it has always been.
Granted it is annoying,but buying bag upgrades works.I just wish they wouldnt cap the amount you can purchase.
I have subbed since betas,and have upgraded my bags a few times,but I've never gotten to the max on them.
I craft a bit,and have quite a bit of mats as well.
So,while I appreciate that I'll have the craft bags,I wouldnt be bothered if I didnt.
Just my opinion.

Turelus · May 2016

Fukutsu wrote: »

Hey everyone,

<snip names to stop pings from quotes>

Part of the stipulation on this poll was that the Craft Bag stays as an ESO plus exclusive: everyone seems to agree there [80%].

We are talking about inventory still being an issue that needs to be addressed.

This game has more inventory slots than other MMO games I have played.

There could be more room for the bank but you can always get around this by making a mule character and having them hold items which you want to keep but don't have bank space for (like old sets for future alts).

Additionally you can start a personal bank guild with some friends etc.

Lastly don't pick up items you don't actually need. If you don't plan to craft every single food in the game every day then leave all the useless food materials alone and only take the ones for the foods you use.

Fukutsu · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

I think having to make a mule character is pretty lame.

Good comments, and thanks for the follow ups.

More tomorrow.

Best solution:
ESO should have invested in ads on any post with the words: craft bag, poll, and eso plus. They would be rich and the game would be completely free to play.

JD2013 · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

If you want that inventory space, pay!

Though seriously, I think it's a great perk for subscribers. If ZOS at any point want to do inventory upgrades (But not by loads and certainly not infinite) for in game gold, as they are now, then that's up to them.

But for now, subscribers get the crafting bags. There is really no more to say on that particular thing.

Volkodav · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, but I'm alright with increasing inventory for everyone.

JD2013 wrote: »

If you want that inventory space, pay!

Though seriously, I think it's a great perk for subscribers. If ZOS at any point want to do inventory upgrades (But not by loads and certainly not infinite) for in game gold, as they are now, then that's up to them.

But for now, subscribers get the crafting bags. There is really no more to say on that particular thing.

People need something to talk about here. XD

Taisynn · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

I have rehashed this so many times.

When you outright buy the DLC, your perk is your forever access to it. You get it as long as the game lasts. Your investment can never be taken from you should you stop paying into the game.

Subscribers pay MORE overtime for access to these DLCs, and the moment we stop paying POOF no more access. That investment disappears along with the money we put into it.

Subscribers need a better perk than just three days off our research time, 10% exp bonus, and some gold incentive. These are practically nothing. So we get ONE nice thing for making sure the game has steady revenue every month. Without us this game would cease to exist.

So, stop with the "it's not fair," rhetoric. You want the crafting bag, pay the $15 a month.

And the crowns we get everymonth? Hardly enough to get anything nice. And we're paying more for them on average.

And this whole "privacy" argument about not wanting to use a credit card - go to your local game store, gas station, etc. and go buy an ESO plus card. That's what my boyfriend and I do.

I buy my sub AND buy crowns for the vanity items. Don't argue we don't do the same just because we sub.

Aimora · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

Why is this being rehashed there was already a massive thread about this!

SlayerTheDragon · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

This was one of ZO$ better business decisions of late.

Iluvrien · May 2016

Make Craft Bags ESO plus exclusive, and DO NOT increase the inventory of other players.

Fukutsu wrote: »

@Iluvrien
This is ridiculous people; they added more bag space recently. It was an improvement. I think they should add more.
If increasing inventory by 50 is that gamebreaking, and it "guts" the intended design of the game, then the craft bag is a truly vile beast in the same regard.

I don't agree; the craft bag is awesome.
More inventory would be a good thing for everyone, not a game gutting abomination.

They added more bag space because they added more materials. If they added more materials without an increase in bag space then it would have made inventory management harder. The increase just kept it at the same level of difficulty.

I said it would 'gut' this one design decision. Not the entire game. Strawman.

I don't want them to make increased inventory space available to all. Since that this game has embraced the B2P nonsense then if I am going to maintain my sub then I definitely want something extra to make me feel like a valued customer rather than a rube who got taken advantage of.

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