lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Sturdy is bugged and provides less block cost reduction than stated in the tooltip.
Base block costs are 2160, so with 8 pieces legendary sturdy armour (24% block cost reduction), this should be either
2160 x 0.76 = 1642 if it stacks additive or
2160 x 0.97^8 = 1693 if it stacks multiplicative.
But when testing it, blocking costs 1740.

They increased the base cost of block slightly.

RoyJade wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

First, it's 11%, not 22%. And second, it applies just for that item. It's not a % boost to your overall SD/WD. Just a % boost to the SD/WD contribution from that weapon. Which means, for a CP160 golden staff, a measly 146 extra SD. If you would take that over 5K penetration or 7% crit chance, then you need to go back to the drawing board.

Isn't it 11% for a one handed weapon, and be a 22% for a two handed one ? If not, new nirn would be really bad...

11% for my nirn sword. 11% for my nirn staff.

The only traits that have different 1H/2H values are traits that increase overall character stats. Defending, Sharpened, Precise, etc. For traits that affect only that item, there has never been any difference between 1H and 2H.

Ishammael wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Sturdy is bugged and provides less block cost reduction than stated in the tooltip.
Base block costs are 2160, so with 8 pieces legendary sturdy armour (24% block cost reduction), this should be either
2160 x 0.76 = 1642 if it stacks additive or
2160 x 0.97^8 = 1693 if it stacks multiplicative.
But when testing it, blocking costs 1740.

They increased the base cost of block slightly.

No, they didn't, when blocking naked with no passives skilled and no cp, blocking costed 2160 stamina for me.

Trying to test Nirn trait on a shield and the value 290, never increased when going from white to yellow...is this working correctly @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

So many changes... and by the time I'm done re-gearing all of my characters there will probably be a new DLC with other revolutionary changes and I'll have to re-do them all, all over again.

Make nirncrux available outside craglorn. All the writs go to Orsinium now. Nirncrux should at least be available there as well.

Using a fully golded Nirnhoned Staff last night, I noticed it was not as strong as the fully golded out sharpened staff that I kept on the back bar. I really feel that Nirnhoneds improvement needs a small buff to make it qualify as a positive change.

Feynn wrote: »

Junkogen wrote: »

Make nirncrux available outside craglorn. All the writs go to Orsinium now. Nirncrux should at least be available there as well.

I think they really should revamp Craglorn at least in terms of the level of the resource nodes you can find there, and make writs go there instead. It's absurd that they make writs go to a premium zone. I read somewhere that they are planning to make changes to Craglorn in the future, thankfully. Making nirncrux drop anywhere other than Craglorn would be kind of lore-breaking, wouldn't it?

Its being offered in the Cyrodiil PVP top 2% rewards havent seen if its dropping in any zones yet though

ManDraKE wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

Like how Sturdy is 3% for just blocking, and Well-Fitted is 5% for both sprinting (meh) and dodge rolling...

spam dodge roll have a HUGE penalty in cost. Block spam dosn't.

You have zero regen when spamming block. I'd say that a huge penalty.

To me it seems like nirnhoned is fine but penetration is too high. Sharpened is -7%(~4%) mitigation for one piece, -14%(8%) for two. That is a whole lot of damage that is trivially obtained. Throw in maul/mace passives and it just gets absurd. 5 gold heavy armor is around 21% mitigation, only 1% higher than the maul/mace penetration passives. You sacrifice a lot for that mitigation, but the penetration to completely overcome it is a mere triviality. Penetration needs to be balanced.

Note: It is actually only ~4% and that seems more balanced, but I still strongly disagree with 20% penetration as a base passive because that is essentially all the mitigation that a 5 piece gold heavy provides with reinforced on the large pieces. As far as the trait here mentioned is concerned it is fine.

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Sturdy is bugged and provides less block cost reduction than stated in the tooltip.
Base block costs are 2160, so with 8 pieces legendary sturdy armour (24% block cost reduction), this should be either
2160 x 0.76 = 1642 if it stacks additive or
2160 x 0.97^8 = 1693 if it stacks multiplicative.
But when testing it, blocking costs 1740.

They increased the base cost of block slightly.

No, they didn't, when blocking naked with no passives skilled and no cp, blocking costed 2160 stamina for me.

From the patch notes:

Core mechanics (sprint, dodge, block, CC break) will now be slightly more expensive

Found on the same page where base game patch notes start, in the discussion under vet ranks removal

Keep weapon nirnhoned trait as spell pen/res. You're basically ruining an elusive trait. The whole point was for it to be one of the best, not worst.

Terrible idea. Change it back, please. Thanks.

I amazed. pts out for one day. one. and folks are raging about how "this got screwed up"," thats not fair for this class", "my 18000 cp shouldn't have to group or even be in the same zone with some lame player that can only ... meh, now im just ranting also. It's a game. the try to give us what they consider a playable game. and adjust as things go along. if you hate it that much, why are you still playing? There are lots of things i still can't do or have had to adapt to the changes ESO makes. whats wrong with that? Part of the fun of this whole ESO world is learning how to adapt to whats tossed our way. ive maxed all crafting on all of my toons, most of the group content, but still only so-so at pvp... but im having a kick ass time learning- to those awesome pvpers and pledge/group delve runners. grab a noob once in a while and show em how to do it. you were new once yourself. ...

sorry, sooo off topic. my point being the trait change has totally twisted my normal builds... they're trying something new. its the test server, they want our feed back on what works/ what doesn't. it's a game, change is good. once it gets redundant or boring, nobody will play. I know i won't.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Hi Zos, I believe there is a bug regarding trait stats. A Nirnhoned staffs and 2-Handed Weapons grants 11% extra spell and weapon dmge and a Sharpened one 5160 penetration. But a one-handed weapon gives 11% extra dmge and 2580 penetration each.
If Nirnhoned weapons are supposed to work as every other trait, Staffs and 2-Handed weapons should grant 22% extra spell and weapon dmge.
@code65536