Do you want group damage to return?

BlackEar · January 2016

There has been some discussing back and forth regarding group damage. It was recently possible to view other party member's DPS through addons. This was not the intend by ZOS and was later removed.

Maybe you prefer this possibility? Maybe you dont? Maybe you want it implemented through ZOS themselves as a core aspect of the game?

Enlighten us! The poll is anonymous.

Ruben · January 2016

Yep, bring it back.

Is there any addon similar to GroupDamage that simply shows overall group dps in a big number? I think it would be nice to have for trials, now that a new one is coming.

actosh · January 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno ,
Pls get the addon and make it a build in part of the Ui that those who wanr it can activate it, those who dont like it can turn it off. Thx.

So u can serve your players. Thx

Anhedonie · January 2016

actosh wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno ,
Pls get the addon and make it a build in part of the Ui that those who wanr it can activate it, those who dont like it can turn it off. Thx.

So u can serve your players. Thx

This is not gonna work.
"Turn it on before we start or GTFO".

Xjcon · January 2016

It's not going to happen /thread.

EsoRecon · January 2016

Zos needs to focus on more important things.

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2016

At least one poll that is NEARLY properly presented.
It doesn't show the main culprit against GD though : "without your consent"... that's to say "with opt-in /opt-out potion".
I refer to the poll title "GroupDamage" so I assume it refers to group DPS meters without opt-in/opt-out option (and even without your very knowledge) so I vote No.

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driosketch · January 2016

actosh wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno ,
Pls get the addon and make it a build in part of the Ui that those who wanr it can activate it, those who dont like it can turn it off. Thx.

So u can serve your players. Thx

Dev response to this.
http://www.esoui.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25571&postcount=9

The whole thread:
http://www.esoui.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6024

MarrazzMist · January 2016

Minor issue for me, but I do prefer players sharing info they want to.

BlackEar · January 2016

driosketch wrote: »

actosh wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno ,
Pls get the addon and make it a build in part of the Ui that those who wanr it can activate it, those who dont like it can turn it off. Thx.

So u can serve your players. Thx

Dev response to this.
http://www.esoui.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25571&postcount=9

The whole thread:
http://www.esoui.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6024

Thank you for the source!

Ruben · January 2016

Anhedonie wrote: »

actosh wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno ,
Pls get the addon and make it a build in part of the Ui that those who wanr it can activate it, those who dont like it can turn it off. Thx.

So u can serve your players. Thx

This is not gonna work.
"Turn it on before we start or GTFO".

Some of us have friends and we like this kind of stuff. Using your logic ZOS should remove achievements because they might ask me to show one or two of them to do a trial or group dungeon.

Gilvoth · January 2016

hek no!
i dont want people knowing about my personal choices and armor and how much damage i can do!
that is my own personal business!

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2016

Ruben wrote: »

Some of us have friends and we like this kind of stuff. Using your logic ZOS should remove achievements because they might ask me to show one or two of them to do a trial or group dungeon.

The difference is, if anyone asks me to link achievements at least they have to ask me and I'm aware that's their way of thinking... it's also up to me to link them or not, stay or leave. (I always leave when asked for an achievement, even though I have them all).

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Miszou · January 2016

As a tank, IDGAF what my damage is. I don't know why everyone is so focused on just seeing DPS.

That said, I'd be far more interested in seeing a whole pile of other stats, such as healing received, healing given, damage blocked, damage taken etc.

Something like this:

However, this is probably even less likely than a raw DPS-peen waving contest. And is just as unnecessary.

Mivryna · January 2016

I'm not entirely sure where I stand on this. On one hand, I despise being forced to min/max. I want to try unique builds and see how they work in practice. I'd rather succeed with something fun and balanced without being pressured to get that extra 10% through a cookie-cutter build.

On the other hand, should groups be forced to settle for terrible DPS without the means to address it? As long as players are helpful and willing to give constructive advice, this could help a lot of players bring out the best in their characters.

I lean "yes", because the community should learn to be cool regardless.

Xjcon · January 2016

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

hek no!
i dont want people knowing about my personal choices and armor and how much damage i can do!
that is my own personal business!

#mysalesinMMaremyownbuisiness

Nestor · January 2016

Has this Add On existed for any length of time? I have not heard discussion of it before a few weeks ago, so that leads me to think this was a new addon added to mix.

Robbmrp · January 2016

Umbranox wrote: »

I'm not entirely sure where I stand on this. On one hand, I despise being forced to min/max. I want to try unique builds and see how they work in practice. I'd rather succeed with something fun and balanced without being pressured to get that extra 10% through a cookie-cutter build.

On the other hand, should groups be forced to settle for terrible DPS without the means to address it? As long as players are helpful and willing to give constructive advice, this could help a lot of players bring out the best in their characters.

I lean "yes", because the community should learn to be cool regardless.

If it were that simple I'd be all for it. The problem is, there's already group exclusions if you don't have x level, or x type of gear or have x achievement completed. IMO this is only going to help those who already exclude people from their groups to keep doing so now based on just a DPS #.

I remember and miss the good ole days when it was about clearing the content and meeting new people. Now most people are about doing Max DPS per second and blazing through the dungeon so fast you don't have time to loot corpses....

ral · January 2016

I wish for console add ons

Zorrashi · January 2016

Normally I would say yes. But unlike certain other add ons like FTC, there is no way to opt out of group damage's info gathering.
So no.

Acrolas · January 2016

Are the people who want GroupDamage the same people who are adamantly opposed to having an Inspect Gear option?

Hey, I know what that's called.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Inappropriate Content and Language]

Xjcon · January 2016

Acrolas wrote: »

Are the people who want GroupDamage the same people who are adamantly opposed to having an Inspect Gear option?

Hey, I know what that's called.

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

What's to inspect? There is very few choices in top tier gear. And the Elite create threads on known sites explaining exactly how to build the best setup.

Malmai · January 2016

BlackEar wrote: »

There has been some discussing back and forth regarding group damage. It was recently possible to view other party member's DPS through addons. This was not the intend by ZOS and was later removed.

Maybe you prefer this possibility? Maybe you dont? Maybe you want it implemented through ZOS themselves as a core aspect of the game?

Enlighten us! The poll is anonymous.

We need it badly! No more covering your weak dps.

laksikus · January 2016

I dont care, im a DD most of the time, so i see how much % damage the other DD does anyway.

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2016

Xjcon wrote: »

What's to inspect? There is very few choices in top tier gear. And the Elite create threads on known sites explaining exactly how to build the best setup.

Another reason for avoiding the "almighty-DPS-race", because it will lead to everyone forced into wearing the same stuff and doing the same rotation. I let the pressure force me to use the same cookie cutter build as everyone else on my magicka sorc because I wanted to run high level content with her, but on my templar alt I'll try to be more creative and try plenty of other stuff and rotations. And if I cannot complete some content with him, so be it. But even the most "special snowflake crazy" build will let you do the 8-12K DPS required by nearly all vet dungeons.

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Jaeysa · January 2016

Acrolas wrote: »

Are the people who want GroupDamage the same people who are adamantly opposed to having an Inspect Gear option?

Hey, I know what that's called.
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

No, actually most of us are for this. Like Miszou, I would like a meter that shows everything, including avoidable damage taken.

Artjuh90 · January 2016

so glad we don't have addons for these kind of elitisms on consoles. if someone isn't doing dps you notice anyway? this only caters to elitist who would kick you because your DPS is like 10% lower then the min/max builds have

I55UE5 · January 2016

There is enough hardcore players in guilds that will share their damage anyways. if they aren't willing to share their DPS or atleast communicate when a group is having trouble, then they shouldnt be in the group.. It happens.

Woeler · January 2016

... and thus, the whining continues!

Mojmir · January 2016

Didn't vote,don't care

Xjcon · January 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Xjcon wrote: »

What's to inspect? There is very few choices in top tier gear. And the Elite create threads on known sites explaining exactly how to build the best setup.

Another reason for avoiding the "almighty-DPS-race", because it will lead to everyone forced into wearing the same stuff and doing the same rotation. I let the pressure force me to use the same cookie cutter build as everyone else on my magicka sorc because I wanted to run high level content with her, but on my templar alt I'll try to be more creative and try plenty of other stuff and rotations. And if I cannot complete some content with him, so be it. But even the most "special snowflake crazy" build will let you do the 8-12K DPS required by nearly all vet dungeons.

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I like to compete. Many others do aswell. No one forces players to join runs to compete for top DPS.

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