Not going back to veteran Maelstrom Arena until it is nerfed on consoles.
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✭PrinceBoru wrote: »I'm on xb1.
We all see players with the Maelstrom Champion as their title.
That's the title for completing it on normal xD
Bet u don't see many with the Stormproof title
^ This. Even more proof lol...PrinceBoru wrote: »I'm on xb1.
We all see players with the Maelstrom Champion as their title.
Rare, but I do see them.
Maybe once a day.
To me, that's about right.
How's that for a completely un-scientific approach?!Edited by Justice31st on December 14, 2015 9:10PM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
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✭Justice31st wrote: »Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »Well after reading all this i really want to go in the vet arena.
The normal was so easy that i got bored and grinded bosses outside instead.
If i can do it i will come back here to giggle since i have less than 170 cp and i only have vr15 purple gear with max 6 traits .
Interested in seeing your findings, as long as it wasn't done on a sorcerer of course.
Magika dk here massive dps and i can crit 35k heals without maxed cp and gear, i believe that a 12% more due to the cp will make me only better in the leaderboards, but here we are talking about finish the arena not about going in the top 10% of the leaderboard, or i'm wrong?Signature0 -
zornyan✭✭✭✭✭Nah upgrade materials aren't a thing. Or gold, or researching traits
You knows what's funny? There's less of these on pc...
Average price of something like a gold temper is higher on pc, and you still see lots of people asking for crafter etc.
I still see people that are low on gold (like including beta players) I've got 1.4 mil on ps4, thst only took me just over a week to make when orsinium dropped. Even by some pc players that's a hell of alot.
Also I've got 8-9 traits on all crafts on console, so again what advantage does a pc player have there?
Let me put it like this.
I and any players that play on both platforms are saying the same thing, there's no advantage, no easier life, it's just a better gaming experience on pc with things like text chat, it's more competitive etc as people are obviously more experienced.
I have no easier time getting gear on pc, or completing content, or anything, it's been just as hard or just as easy.
You can't sit there and rant all you want, but until you actually spend some significant time playing on all platforms you don't actually have a valid opinion.
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✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
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Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.Edited by Justice31st on December 14, 2015 9:13PM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."1 -
Tyr✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Drop the current difficulty of veteran Malestrom Arena and there should be three difficulties added into the game to keep the PC players (with there unfair advantages) happy.
Normal, Veteran, Hardcore.
Done.
my question rises if they would implement this wouldn't the same posts be made about hardcore as there are now about vet? i'm positive there will be. so it would be a fix that fixes nothing. well i guess that does fit it ZoS his ally
It won't be a problem if both Vet and Hard Core get on the leaderboards but hardcore has a score bonus. In fact, they should just make Normal mode qualify for the leaderboards with lower scores awarded and there wouldn't be any need to make a hardcore mode. The problem is that awarding Maelstrom gear to .1% of players that can do vetMA instead of the less than 1% that can do Normal MA with a good score.
It makes no sense that players that have VetMA scores in the hundreds get on the the leaderboards but players that can do perfect runs with no sigils of Normal can't.
Because normal is a freaking joke, literially my skills one shot the mobs, and I can burn bosses down in less than a minute (people have killed bosses in 30 seconds) it's too easy to be considered for scoring.
The leaderboards are for gold masters weapons, they need the hardest content in the game to be completed, normal msa is one of the easiest things in the game.
Dude, we have concrete evidence that less than .2% of players have done NormalMA and you are giving me this anecdotal nonsense of it being "one of the easiest things in the game".
I can do perfect runs of Normal as well, but the evidence shows that even if you scored Normal MA you would only have a couple of thousand people who would be in the running for the leaderboards.
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Catblade✭✭✭✭blah blah blah 0.1% numbers don't have big egos and lie. One tenth of one percent. Two tenths on normal, because know why? No one wants vr15 gear for anything but deconEdited by Catblade on December 14, 2015 9:16PM2 -
Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Drop the current difficulty of veteran Malestrom Arena and there should be three difficulties added into the game to keep the PC players (with there unfair advantages) happy.
Normal, Veteran, Hardcore.
Done.
my question rises if they would implement this wouldn't the same posts be made about hardcore as there are now about vet? i'm positive there will be. so it would be a fix that fixes nothing. well i guess that does fit it ZoS his ally
It won't be a problem if both Vet and Hard Core get on the leaderboards but hardcore has a score bonus. In fact, they should just make Normal mode qualify for the leaderboards with lower scores awarded and there wouldn't be any need to make a hardcore mode. The problem is that awarding Maelstrom gear to .1% of players that can do vetMA instead of the less than 1% that can do Normal MA with a good score.
It makes no sense that players that have VetMA scores in the hundreds get on the the leaderboards but players that can do perfect runs with no sigils of Normal can't.
Because normal is a freaking joke, literially my skills one shot the mobs, and I can burn bosses down in less than a minute (people have killed bosses in 30 seconds) it's too easy to be considered for scoring.
The leaderboards are for gold masters weapons, they need the hardest content in the game to be completed, normal msa is one of the easiest things in the game.
Dude, we have concrete evidence that less than .2% of players have done NormalMA and you are giving me this anecdotal nonsense of it being "one of the easiest things in the game".
I can do perfect runs of Normal as well, but the evidence shows that even if you scored Normal MA you would only have a couple of thousand people who would be in the running for the leaderboards.
Considering the "Average" player isn't even max Vet rank how is this statistic even remotely relevant?
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✭✭✭✭Macros 2 strong - not sure what youre goingto macro in VMA, please let me know!3 -
Tonnopesce✭✭✭✭✭
✭blah blah blah 0.1% numbers don't have big egos and lie. One tenth of one percent. Two tenths on normal, because know why? No one wants vr15 gear for anything but decon
I want it! And not for decon but cuz i'm poor i spend all my money in motifs and i don care about the +x% that a vr 16 gear gives you i'm still able to go in all the game with vr 15 gearSignature0 -
Catblade✭✭✭✭You guys realize we probably have the entire leaderboard in here arguing with us about how easy it is at this point? If anything we achieved that0
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Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.
Do you happen use a macro keyboard by any chance?Edited by Justice31st on December 14, 2015 9:27PM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
zornyan✭✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Drop the current difficulty of veteran Malestrom Arena and there should be three difficulties added into the game to keep the PC players (with there unfair advantages) happy.
Normal, Veteran, Hardcore.
Done.
my question rises if they would implement this wouldn't the same posts be made about hardcore as there are now about vet? i'm positive there will be. so it would be a fix that fixes nothing. well i guess that does fit it ZoS his ally
It won't be a problem if both Vet and Hard Core get on the leaderboards but hardcore has a score bonus. In fact, they should just make Normal mode qualify for the leaderboards with lower scores awarded and there wouldn't be any need to make a hardcore mode. The problem is that awarding Maelstrom gear to .1% of players that can do vetMA instead of the less than 1% that can do Normal MA with a good score.
It makes no sense that players that have VetMA scores in the hundreds get on the the leaderboards but players that can do perfect runs with no sigils of Normal can't.
Because normal is a freaking joke, literially my skills one shot the mobs, and I can burn bosses down in less than a minute (people have killed bosses in 30 seconds) it's too easy to be considered for scoring.
The leaderboards are for gold masters weapons, they need the hardest content in the game to be completed, normal msa is one of the easiest things in the game.
Dude, we have concrete evidence that less than .2% of players have done NormalMA and you are giving me this anecdotal nonsense of it being "one of the easiest things in the game".
I can do perfect runs of Normal as well, but the evidence shows that even if you scored Normal MA you would only have a couple of thousand people who would be in the running for the leaderboards.
Those numbers are meaningless, also like how only a couple percent have ever done vet dungeons, or vdsa or the imperial city dungeon etc etc..
The problem is most of console players didn't stay with the game very long, even though more copies sold on console thst pc pc has a much bigger current population.
That's the nature of consoles.
Same as how a game like destiny that sold 12 million (so around 6x eso) and only something silly like 18% ever finished the story missions, which is only a total of 5 odd hours gameplay.
There's also the bigger issue of people not understanding how builds work, I was helping a fellow templar out doing his build, he made a redguard magicka templar, and was wearing 77 heavy sword and board, whilst using black rose and other random armor sets.
It took him a week to do Normal msa. Was it because it was too hard? No he admitted he was crap.
My very first run had 2 deaths (round 6 and 7) but it was ridiculously easy, literially one shotting most mobs with toppling charge. This was with 130 ish CP and mostly vr14 gear.
I just did a few more runs on pc normal, since I transfered and started from scratch, vr2, wearing some seducers and torugs, all green, and had one death in round 7 and that's it.
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✭If there is one thing good about the Arena is that it definitely forces you to be a better player.
If there is one thing bad about the Arena, is that its loot suck so hard -> you don't like it ? don't do it ! No use to go there anyway, it's just for the challenge.Edited by Sotha_Sil on December 14, 2015 9:26PMRestoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!1 -
FENGRUSH✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.
Do you happen use a macro keyboard by any chance?
What does one macro in VMA?! Ill be doing my weekly run tonight on cam - if you want me to stream how I press the buttons I could do that, let me know.3 -
Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.
Do you happen use a macro keyboard by any chance?
What does one macro in VMA?! Ill be doing my weekly run tonight on cam - if you want me to stream how I press the buttons I could do that, let me know.
I wasn't accusing you personally. I was actually watching your stream the first day you completed it on your stamina sorcerer. I have even been the top donater before. However, I am disappointed that you are speaking for the PC players as a whole and saying none use peripherals such as the razer naga programmable macro keyboard in vMA.Edited by Justice31st on December 14, 2015 9:30PM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
Catblade✭✭✭✭I don't know what a macro is but if it will help me escape raining AOE and stranglers pulling me into it then i could go for macros and cheese0
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zornyan✭✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.
Do you happen use a macro keyboard by any chance?
Obvious troll is obvious. ...
@Ezareth see why I moved to pc now? This is the mindset of the average hardcore console player...makes me sad I used to play with people like you.
You don't need macros, macros cannot do anything a regular half decent player can do, since every skill in the game as an global cooldown, there's no advantage to it, it's also a bannable offence and not allowed by zos.
Also exactly what macro would benefit someone in vmsa? You have to be situationally aware, memorize the timings of add spawns and mechanics.
Is a macro going to find the nearest hoarver and kill it next to a stone? Is it going to make me avoid poison in round 7? Or magically cure it?2 -
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✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.
Do you happen use a macro keyboard by any chance?
What does one macro in VMA?! Ill be doing my weekly run tonight on cam - if you want me to stream how I press the buttons I could do that, let me know.
I wasn't accusing you personally. I was actually watching your stream the first day you completed it on your stamina sorcerer. I have even been the top donater before. However, I am disappointed that you are speaking for the PC players as a whole and saying none use peripherals such as the razer naga programmable macro keyboard in vMA.
I dont think theres NEARLY as many use of macros as people believe or talk about - its all over general discussion forums.
The lack of UI for consoles is BRUTAL I will admit, I think you or another mentioned it here - because Ive been playing without FTC in cyro due to the performance dives in PVP, and its just tragic to have a moving target for a health bar and not know your damage.
Macros could be useful in PvP but for 95% of VMA it literally wouldnt benefit you very much, its damage rotation on small health pool adds and mechanics type battles. Good equip makes it easier, and so does decent CP - Id get 200+ but I think thats pretty quick to get now all things considered!3 -
Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.
Do you happen use a macro keyboard by any chance?
I probably have more macro buttons on my keyboard than your SAT score....that is to say I have 6 of them. And 6 side buttons on my mouse. Sadly, none of them do anything...the last Macro I've used was 6+ years ago in WoW and I'm glad I quit playing that garbage where chaining a ton of commands together with a macro was not only encouraged, but required in top levels of play.
You see instead of a Macro I instead these these revolutionary new things. They're called hands. Two of them!
When I want to animation cancel my Crushing shock I left click my mouse with my right hand and immediately after I hit my crushing shock key with my left hand. And then magic happens! Two separate attacks in the space of a second. I know this may come as a shock to you but in high levels of play in competitive games players are able to complete 6-10 separate actions every second. Thankfully ESO doesn't require that level of coordination. The maximium number of actions you completed by 99% of "animation cancellers" is 1 action...per second...per hand. My freaking grandma could probably pull off 2 per second.
So you'll just have to forgive my (and virtually every other top player in the game) amusement at your belief that macroing somehow provides an advantage to an able-bodied individual. Or maybe you should just quit insulting the players who legitimately completed vMSA with garbage threads like these full of misinformation.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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zornyan✭✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.
Do you happen use a macro keyboard by any chance?
What does one macro in VMA?! Ill be doing my weekly run tonight on cam - if you want me to stream how I press the buttons I could do that, let me know.
I wasn't accusing you personally. I was actually watching your stream the first day you completed it on your stamina sorcerer. I have even been the top donater before. However, I am disappointed that you are speaking for the PC players as a whole and saying none use peripherals such as the razer naga programmable macro keyboard in vMA.
I dont think theres NEARLY as many use of macros as people believe or talk about - its all over general discussion forums.
The lack of UI for consoles is BRUTAL I will admit, I think you or another mentioned it here - because Ive been playing without FTC in cyro due to the performance dives in PVP, and its just tragic to have a moving target for a health bar and not know your damage.
Macros could be useful in PvP but for 95% of VMA it literally wouldnt benefit you very much, its damage rotation on small health pool adds and mechanics type battles. Good equip makes it easier, and so does decent CP - Id get 200+ but I think thats pretty quick to get now all things considered!
You get 200 cp from a fresh vr1-16 now.
Just hit vr8 since transferring to pc, at 160ish0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.
Do you happen use a macro keyboard by any chance?
What does one macro in VMA?! Ill be doing my weekly run tonight on cam - if you want me to stream how I press the buttons I could do that, let me know.
I wasn't accusing you personally. I was actually watching your stream the first day you completed it on your stamina sorcerer. I have even been the top donater before. However, I am disappointed that you are speaking for the PC players as a whole and saying none use peripherals such as the razer naga programmable macro keyboard in vMA.
Answer his question: What on earth do you even macro in vMA? I brought up this same issue on the very first page of this circus. Do you even know what macros do? Yes, I have a mouse that has the option of programming a macro in it. No, I've never used that feature in ESO. Among the many reason why not is this simple, basic reason: "What the hell is a macro going to accomplish for me in a game like this?!"
Stop scapegoating. Yes, vMA is hard. Yes, it's frustrating. Yes, I've hurt my hand because I punched my desk in frustration at it. And many people who have completed vMA went through a painful learning process of wiping and deaths. You insult them by accusing them--without any proof or merit--of cheating. If you want to beat vMA, then put in the time, put in the effort, and become a better player in the process, because that's what vMA is: it's intentionally difficult content designed to push and challenge players, ultimately making them better in the long run.Edited by code65536 on December 14, 2015 9:41PMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.
Do you happen use a macro keyboard by any chance?
What does one macro in VMA?! Ill be doing my weekly run tonight on cam - if you want me to stream how I press the buttons I could do that, let me know.
I wasn't accusing you personally. I was actually watching your stream the first day you completed it on your stamina sorcerer. I have even been the top donater before. However, I am disappointed that you are speaking for the PC players as a whole and saying none use peripherals such as the razer naga programmable macro keyboard in vMA.
I dont think theres NEARLY as many use of macros as people believe or talk about - its all over general discussion forums.
The lack of UI for consoles is BRUTAL I will admit, I think you or another mentioned it here - because Ive been playing without FTC in cyro due to the performance dives in PVP, and its just tragic to have a moving target for a health bar and not know your damage.
Macros could be useful in PvP but for 95% of VMA it literally wouldnt benefit you very much, its damage rotation on small health pool adds and mechanics type battles. Good equip makes it easier, and so does decent CP - Id get 200+ but I think thats pretty quick to get now all things considered!
I appreciate your feedback. Seeing you for awhile on stream and knowing what kind of player you are, I will take your word for it. I admit I overused the use of macros on the PC version, and I am willing to allow the mods to delete this forum post. Thank you for the constructive criticism and not posting troll gif images. I will be on your stream later to watch. Take care."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
Sharkano✭✭✭✭It needs to be nerfed, and allow to be saved. I love the guys who come on here and say it's no problem, but then admit they died 300+ times (making all costs astronomical, which is why I won't do it until fixed). The guys who are doing it now (a very tiny % of the playerbase) would still control the leaderboards even if it were a lot easier. ZOS needs to decide if it is going to cater to "Larry The Keyboard Twitchspeed Master" and his few friends, or the entire playerbase. Unless Larry and his buds decide to self-fund ZOS, it should be the latter. Since ZOS loves to come on here and support their actions with stats that only they can see (such as the CP cap "the PC average player is at 90" (LOL) claim), how about they post this stat: what % of VR16 toons have completed the vet maelstrom? It's under 1% -- and that tells the whole story.2
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✭✭✭✭I don't know what a macro is but if it will help me escape raining AOE and stranglers pulling me into it then i could go for macros and cheese
Stranglers don't pull any more.Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.
Do you happen use a macro keyboard by any chance?
What does one macro in VMA?! Ill be doing my weekly run tonight on cam - if you want me to stream how I press the buttons I could do that, let me know.
I wasn't accusing you personally. I was actually watching your stream the first day you completed it on your stamina sorcerer. I have even been the top donater before. However, I am disappointed that you are speaking for the PC players as a whole and saying none use peripherals such as the razer naga programmable macro keyboard in vMA.
I dont think theres NEARLY as many use of macros as people believe or talk about - its all over general discussion forums.
The lack of UI for consoles is BRUTAL I will admit, I think you or another mentioned it here - because Ive been playing without FTC in cyro due to the performance dives in PVP, and its just tragic to have a moving target for a health bar and not know your damage.
Macros could be useful in PvP but for 95% of VMA it literally wouldnt benefit you very much, its damage rotation on small health pool adds and mechanics type battles. Good equip makes it easier, and so does decent CP - Id get 200+ but I think thats pretty quick to get now all things considered!
I don't even know what a Macro would do in PvP that would be useful. Trust me if I could think of a legitimate use for a macro I'd use it....but in 2 years I haven't been able to conceive of a single thing I'd want to Macro.
The reality is, a Macro would have to replace an existing Key completely *or* it would be an additional keybind that would make combat that much more complicated. I've even thought about Macroing my light attack/crushing shock weave combo..but guess what? That would end up with me casting a light attack/defensive rune on my off bar instead! (Melee swing instead of staff attack).
In fact...the entire premise of weapon swapping and different abilities being assigned to different bars makes the use of any macros far more complicated and issue-prone.
Do you know why you haven't beat vMSA? It's because you (the OP) haven't tried hard enough or you lack the skill to do it. Anyone who has spend enough time on it has completed it and for those who chose to run it multiple times, each time they complete it , they finish it faster (until they near their current maximum potential).Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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✭I don't know what a macro is but if it will help me escape raining AOE and stranglers pulling me into it then i could go for macros and cheese
Stranglers don't pull any more.Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran malestrom arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points.
Many use keyboard macros and other cheats.
9 trait gear needed.
No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
No idea how anyone can deny the power of having addons, razer naga keyboard macros and mouse to do a lot of the work for PC players vs. consoles. Bad attempt on trolling with a image btw.
Don't think many people are using macros, since they are a bannable offence.
What power do addons give me btw? I can see damage numbers, but so far have yet to find an addon thst increases my dps or defence.
Oh and BTW macros have been proven to be ineffective in combat previously, infact they put you at a disadvantage as you're entered into a preprogrammed set of events, yet if something screws up in the middle of it you can't do anything to react.
Lol... People add the cancel command on the line of code so if they press it again it cancels to prevent that very issue from happening... I am done.
Quit trolling my threads bruh.
Your ignorance does that just fine.
So what does this "Cancel command" in the line of code do again?
@Fengrush I may have found someone more paranoid than Khan.
Do you happen use a macro keyboard by any chance?
What does one macro in VMA?! Ill be doing my weekly run tonight on cam - if you want me to stream how I press the buttons I could do that, let me know.
I wasn't accusing you personally. I was actually watching your stream the first day you completed it on your stamina sorcerer. I have even been the top donater before. However, I am disappointed that you are speaking for the PC players as a whole and saying none use peripherals such as the razer naga programmable macro keyboard in vMA.
I dont think theres NEARLY as many use of macros as people believe or talk about - its all over general discussion forums.
The lack of UI for consoles is BRUTAL I will admit, I think you or another mentioned it here - because Ive been playing without FTC in cyro due to the performance dives in PVP, and its just tragic to have a moving target for a health bar and not know your damage.
Macros could be useful in PvP but for 95% of VMA it literally wouldnt benefit you very much, its damage rotation on small health pool adds and mechanics type battles. Good equip makes it easier, and so does decent CP - Id get 200+ but I think thats pretty quick to get now all things considered!
I don't even know what a Macro would do in PvP that would be useful. Trust me if I could think of a legitimate use for a macro I'd use it....but in 2 years I haven't been able to conceive of a single thing I'd want to Macro.
The reality is, a Macro would have to replace an existing Key completely *or* it would be an additional keybind that would make combat that much more complicated. I've even thought about Macroing my light attack/crushing shock weave combo..but guess what? That would end up with me casting a light attack/defensive rune on my off bar instead! (Melee swing instead of staff attack).
In fact...the entire premise of weapon swapping and different abilities being assigned to different bars makes the use of any macros far more complicated and issue-prone.
Do you know why you haven't beat vMSA? It's because you (the OP) haven't tried hard enough or you lack the skill to do it. Anyone who has spend enough time on it has completed it and for those who chose to run it multiple times, each time they complete it , they finish it faster (until they near their current maximum potential).
Oh of course it couldn't be due to the class imbalance issues or lack of console UI like Fengrush mentioned. /sarcasm
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FireCowCommando✭✭✭✭✭@Justice31st Sadly i got a blue screen when i got to stage 7, but i did stream my entire run at 150 CP for anyone to watch. It was a bit of a learning experience since it was a test run but you are welcome to watch the replay.
http://www.twitch.tv/apoptosis357/v/29247331
Just go to my most recent broadcast, im not sure why i cant embed the clip directly. Probably user error sorry!
My build was:
5 Kagrenac's Hope
3 Will power
3 Seducer
1 Molag Kena
I don't have time to go and rewatch it at this time, but i do believe i went over my CP and gear at the end of the video again. My two biggest suggestion for players struggling are to make sure you have enough health, and to move around. Movement mitigates a lot of damage if you do it correctly.
And to @Catblade, I am spending less time in PvP because i am struggling to find enjoyment through the performance issues, I wasn't even CP capped when it was introduced. I find the challenge of vMSA enjoyable, even with all of its bugs that plagued my Deathless run. (Which i got by the way
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✭✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »I am tired of these 1% players who keep posting veteran Malestrom Arena videos who have the best gear, items and maxed out champion points. Many use keyboard macros and other cheats or have addons to also help do the work for them. I don't know why ZOS even cares to use these players as the dungeon difficulty example. In reality, the majority of ESO players are struggling to even complete veteran maelstrom arena; let alone have a chance at the new master weapons, and especially on console. Just look at the leaderboards or trophy % achievement. I do not understand why ZOS wants the majority % of eso players to rage quit the game. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert (Tagged just to hopefully get a "soon" or /lurk) @ZOS_Alex ( tagged because he enjoys giving me warnings)
@L2P_Groupies @elitist (And also tagged inb4 the elitist and L2P groupies.)
Here is a quick list of reasons why Malestrom Arena needs to be nerfed on console.
1. 9 trait gear needed.
2. Massive repair, food, potion cost.
3. Horribly designed catered to ranged and primarily sorcerers.
4. Having to respect to a min/max build in order to get the best chance possible.
5. Champion point heavily dependent.
6. No addons on consoles which give a big advantage.
Solution: Drop the current difficulty of veteran Malestrom Arena and there should be three difficulties added into the game to keep the PC players (with there unfair advantages) happy. Normal, Veteran, Hardcore. The vMA and hMA would both have a % chance at dropping the master weapons. But with hardcore Maelstrom Arena having the higher percent chance.
Feel free to add to the list below with your own frustrations about the veteran Maelstrom Arena. And thanks for your time.
Hello!
Understand your frustrations. To your points.
1. Twice born star is *not* the consensus best gear. IMHO and the of others Hunding's/Julianos is superior. 9 trait gear is most certainly not "needed."
2. The cost is not massive. People through their impatience may make it massive. Do *not* rez in the arena, the time of the ghost form is the same amount of time it takes to walk from the wayshine. Your wasted soul gems you could sell for 80 gold a pop. Do *not* use expensive potions for learning/clearing early rounds. Generic stuff you get from dungeons drops is more than enough and if you are struggling with a stage, a tri-pot will not save you trust me.
3. Ranged is always going to have an inherant advanatges, that's just how it is. But I find the arena easier to complete on my templar who does nothing but biting jabs than more sorcerer who is the supposed range specialist. I do not buy it is catered to ranged users, especially since "melee" builds have an effective range of 22 feet!
4. Genuinely confused by this...isn't min/maxing by its definition giving a player the best chance possible in any aspect of the game? Are you suggesting that a build without any thought should finish higher on a leaderboard than one with a lot of thought and testing done to min/max it?
5. Champion points are overrated and have become something of a convenient excuse to explain why players are losing. I do not deny there is a big difference between 0 and 501, but if you are VR16 and your goal is to compete in end-game content you already have more than enough champion points to be competitive. Once you get 90, you have the crit bonus you need. Once you get 200, you'll have the regen. By 300 you'll have almost as much damage as I'm getting with 501.
6. I never though the idea of a comeptitive MMO that did not display critical information such as damage was a mistake from the very begining. Apparently ZoS is going to update the UI to include this.
All that being said, the add-ons that I use do not in any way dictate how I play or what I do. None at all. I only use it for analyzing information after the fact. Someone offered a challenge to record a run with them turned off as if that was absurd. Not at all. Easily done. And I would if I had a machine worth a crap.
All this being said, I would not mind something as a "hardcore" mode as you suggest, but I suspect players will still complain that they can not complete "hardcore" and scoff at "veteran" as something for noobs.
I have a detailed guide in my signature if you are amenable to advice,Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.5 -
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✭FireCowCommando wrote: »@Justice31st Sadly i got a blue screen when i got to stage 7, but i did stream my entire run at 150 CP for anyone to watch. It was a bit of a learning experience since it was a test run but you are welcome to watch the replay.
http://www.twitch.tv/apoptosis357/v/29247331
My build was:
5 Kagrenac's Hope
3 Will power
3 Seducer
1 Molag Kena
I don't have time to go and rewatch it at this time, but i do believe i went over my CP and gear at the end of the video again. My two biggest suggestion for players struggling are to make sure you have enough health, and to move around. Movement mitigates a lot of damage if you do it correctly.
And to @Catblade, I am spending less time in PvP because i am struggling to find enjoyment through the performance issues, I wasn't even CP capped when it was introduced. I find the challenge of vMSA enjoyable, even with all of its bugs that plagued my Deathless run. (Which i got by the way )
+1 However, the video you embedded is unable to play."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0
