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That's it for Templars?

  • AfkNinja
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    From another thread:

    "•Daedric Summoning

    •The Daedric Protection passive now grants 10/20% bonus stamina recovery in addition to its previous effects.


    Reduced resource costs
    Reduced Ultimate costs
    Increased weapon and spell damage
    And higher Stam regen than all the other classes."

    Show Templar some love please. Do not want to be a healbot kthx.
  • Ludof
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    From another thread:

    "•Daedric Summoning

    •The Daedric Protection passive now grants 10/20% bonus stamina recovery in addition to its previous effects.


    Reduced resource costs
    Reduced Ultimate costs
    Increased weapon and spell damage
    And higher Stam regen than all the other classes."

    Show Templar some love please. Do not want to be a healbot kthx.


    "Sun Fire increased travel speed."
    That's all a Templar may need. :'(


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  • Thalmor-Nordmaster
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    :'( Templars get no love :'(

    can we form a templar union and guild and only heal ourselves!
  • saintmurray
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    Templars still not worth playing after this update? Yay GG to bad if you don't wanna heal I guess.
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  • saintmurray
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    Also I played my templar since BETA think I'll just retire it and play my DK. It's like V6 and seems like it will easily roll over a fully geared temp...
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  • Ludof
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    @saintmurray DK were nerfed a lot , especially magicka ones.
    You should consider Magicka NB instead; it got no nerf and It is even stronger with the permacloak. :)
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  • technohic
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    Templars still not worth playing after this update? Yay GG to bad if you don't wanna heal I guess.

    I'm at least happy that puncturing sweep getting the healing double nerfed is supposed to be fixed. Have not been on to test it though as I am still not sure they have done enough to where I want to log in again yet. if I did, I'd probably work on my Magicka NB.
  • BugCollector
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    Sticky ZOS?
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  • Thalmor-Nordmaster
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    other double nerfs kinda got fixed its in the natch potes. Temps need to not use shards be stingy with them seeing they now play a key role in tanking. Well tempos do not have to go along with that. Don't cast them it's simple do your thing but no shards. The lack of attention and the fact that TC seems to have received a longer gcd shows that temps are being shoehorned to be nothing more that second string resource pots. They key element to tanking is now shards. Throw a wrench into the ill conceived attempts. And then ZOS will actually have to fix things. Better than a strike is resource denial. Denial operations are fun but the populace hates them.
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    They really need to make Sun Shield, Obsidian Shield not effected by the 50% shield reduction from battle spirit, or at the very least reduce that reduction to 25% on damage shields that scale from health.

    Both of those shields are tiny unless you invest a ton in health, and investing everything into health has the trade off of not being able to kill anything that has a brain.

    furthermore, they took away 50% of the damage Blazing Shield does with this nerf directly nerfing our core class ability and damage and directly nerfing magicka Templar;s who are already subpar to begin with in the DPS department compared to Sorcs, DK's and all other stamina builds.
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  • Thalmor-Nordmaster
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    yes they did but notice shards of all kinds works as usual.You can play any style of temp you want. As long as you you build around being a shard/bol dispenser.GG Zenimax
  • david.haypreub18_ESO
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    Looks like, as expected, the Global Cool Down on Toppling Charge has not only not been removed, but might actually have been increased:

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/209182/is-the-gcd-toppling-charge-even-longer-now#latest
    Edited by david.haypreub18_ESO on August 20, 2015 3:38PM
    Templars are 'just slower... by design'
    Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
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  • Soris
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    That shard should affect templar as well like the Helping Hand passive of DKs. Or you should at least pick up your own shard from ground.
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  • wizardpsx
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    Pathetic that templars are being ignored.

    sorc just got %increase to weapon/spell dmg passive that templars use to only have. how about you give templars a passive that gives us some %regen huh?

    sorcs now have 10%magicka, 20% stam
    nbs are 15%stam 10% magicka
    DKs have battle roar which gives back a lot of resources
    templar??????? have to slot repentence to get sustain or channeled focus........
  • SeptimusDova
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    we have a 40 plus page thread of being ignored. Its time we face the facts and sit in the back of the bus with the Argonians.
  • AfkNinja
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    we have a 40 plus page thread of being ignored. Its time we face the facts and sit in the back of the bus with the Argonians.

    Let's get it to 100 pages and keep going. They can't ignore us forever.
  • SeptimusDova
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    that thread is so heavy that it cannot be bump floated we all tried!! See what I mean four posts after yours on the thread and no movement.
    Edited by SeptimusDova on August 20, 2015 8:30PM
  • tinythinker
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    Well, depending on how you look at this new set Templars win and/or lose with the new Shieldbreaker armor. Opinions vary, but in the worst case predictions you might be in more demand for healing in PvP.

    Just don't pop Sun Shield, Absorb Magicka, or Healing Ward.

    Instead, get some heavy 5 piece Seducer with infused traits/magicka enchants and some divine traits/The Mage or a 5 heavy piece combo of Torug's Pact, Twighlight's Embrace, and/or Magnus' Gift with infused traits/magicka enchants and some divines traits/The Atronauch and you're ready to go as the go to healer in Cyrodiil and Imperial City! :)

    Edited by tinythinker on August 20, 2015 8:31PM
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  • SeptimusDova
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    Tiny Thinker I already run all of those. I might glom onto the shield breaker set and see what it does. Our shields are garbage now and from this point on always will be.Shards will be in demand but due to inflation and the ACA It will cost 200 TV a shard. Nothing is free and neither should our shards.
    Edited by SeptimusDova on August 20, 2015 8:34PM
  • Lettigall
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    Ludof wrote: »
    @saintmurray DK were nerfed a lot , especially magicka ones.
    You should consider Magicka NB instead; it got no nerf and It is even stronger with the permacloak. :)

    I regret so muc
    AfkNinja wrote: »
    we have a 40 plus page thread of being ignored. Its time we face the facts and sit in the back of the bus with the Argonians.

    Let's get it to 100 pages and keep going. They can't ignore us forever.

    They can and they will! Only hope for templars is if Eric Wrobel starts playing one!
    Some men just want to watch the world burn... I just want a cold beer!
  • wizardpsx
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    This game takes a hella of a long time to build your character. some of us have jobs/wives/kids other things to do. So "REROLLING NB" is not ideal, because truthfully, maybe at some later point that class will be nerfed.

    the main thing i hear all the time in pvp is templar brings heals.

    this i dont understand,

    healing skills cost way more than damageing skills and heal way less than a damage or heavy attack produces. healing in pvp seems to waste your resources and just delay the inevitable.

    id rather the class be fixed and fun than OP. right now its just frustrating to play and not rewarding. going out with a duo as a healer with a dps would seem to have the advantage when doing 2 v 2s but in reality the heals keep no one alive and rather having 2 dps on 1 player burning them down faster is better.


    so right now our options as dps are the suck with no real advantages. then you see other classes that are not bad get more buffs like NB and SORC
  • kaithuzar
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    templar is really good on PTS
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    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_MaryB on August 27, 2015 11:27AM
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  • wizardpsx
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    if it only were that easy.

    that buff doesn't really matter when people have enough penetration to bypass all mitigations. also, what if templars don't want to use crushing shock because they prefer a puncturing sweep style approach, hence you have to chase down your enemies.

    Edited by ZOS_MaryB on August 27, 2015 11:28AM
  • SeptimusDova
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    Wow stand still in Cyrodiil proper and see what that gets you. L2P my hind end.
  • AfkNinja
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    [Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

    This is hilarious.

    "Hey ZOS, we have broken skills" Your response, stop crying.
    "Hey ZOS some of our pasives lower our dmg" Your response, stop crying.
    "Hey ZOS the only viable build right now requires staying in a rune/buff area and not moving" quit crying.
    "Hey ZOS Radiant Destruction can't crit" ZOS : We fixed it to crit now, but we nerfed the damage. ...ok thanks?
    "Hey ZOS Our class Charge STILL has a huge delay after using it" quit crying
    "Hey ZOS our blazing shield is so pitifully tiny it is useless, using it actually results in us taking MORE dmg." quit crying
    "Hey ZOS Stamplar needs a way to get back resources like other classes" quit crying, stand in your runes and spam heals like we told you to.

    So basically if you don't wanna be a stationary healbot/battery don't play templar? Why can every class except templar have multiple ways to play? We just want some tweaks/bug fixes stop telling us to be quiet and stand in a corner.
    Edited by ZOS_MaryB on August 27, 2015 11:28AM
  • tinythinker
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    Tiny Thinker I already run all of those.
    Yeah, it definitely works. For alternatives @JackDaniell and @Blabbafat have been trying out some interesting styles on the PTS.

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  • SeptimusDova
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    I think its my fault due to multiple bans and insults I have levied at them they have decided to make everyone pay for my expression of free speech.They know I am a Templar/Werewolf and that I wanted to be a Khajiit/Argonian Hybrid a WolfaCatalizard and they seek to destroy all of my hopes.
  • Thalmor-Nordmaster
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    Ha Ha Dova told you go Thalmor or Go Home!!!
  • AfkNinja
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    I wanted to be a Khajiit/Argonian Hybrid, a WolfaCatalizard.

    Please photoshop this immediately. All hail the Wolfacatalizard master race!
  • SeptimusDova
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    i will do that when I get another 3 days off
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