It would seem the lot of you take your boob allocation very seriously. More seriously than probably is really necessary.

Kaizxen wrote: »

bellanca6561n wrote: »

2. We don't want ESO to become like THIS [insert an elf from Terra Online] or another Asian MMO.....

You don't want ESO to have a suspiciously low camera angle?

Honestly, there are definitely things that other games could learn from Tera's armor art, but they'd need to look at the full range of armors. People talk about Tera as if all of its armors were ultra-skimpy, and that is typically what gets publicized, but there are options for characters to be tasteful and/or modest. The player has to choose to use them.

I found the variations in armor types very refreshing in Tera, regardless of how much skin was shown. I'm tired of games reusing the same armor meshes with minimally altered textures for entire ranges of armor pieces.

It's also one of the few games out there that offers a full range of armor appearances (skimpy, fully clothed, wacky, etc.) for both genders, which is an argument that has been raised (justifiably) in every MMO I've ever played.

It's called a straw man argument, especially in the context I used it.

The origin of the elf myth is that of a bewitcher, seducer, using beauty beyond that of regular humans the way Templars use the Jesus Beam. It's power that cannot be employed without appropriate clothing for the role.

In short, it's not trash, nor borderline pornography.

But, most of all, it should be a choice.

I am a Huge G-irl (guy in real life) ... I have 2 accounts and all 16 toons are women ... I love to dress my Digital Wives/Dolls to impress... I like the Corseted dress and some of the clothes but find most of the new outfits and Wearable battle Gear incredibly conservative.

Rykoth wrote: »

stimpy986b14_ESO wrote: »

What few developers seem to be able to grasp is that you can make armor/outfits sexy without making them revealing. The female Templar armor from Hellgate: London (displayed below) for example shows zero skin but is still very sexy.

That being said, the new redguard and orc armor designs are neither sexy nor revealing, but ugly as hell and have no place in a mature rated game.

Have you ever played TES games before? No? Let's break it down this way.

TES has never had skimpy women short of a bad game cover for Arena. Fur armor here and there, but by and large, armor is armor. You want skimpy? You want sexy? Go elsewhere.

I disagree. Perhaps you are simply misinformed...







Nope, no scantily clad women at all in previous elder scrolls games.




Nope, nope, nope. Never ever...

I still don't get it.

Why the change?

Esha76 wrote: »

As OP stated, I consider this to be elegant and classy, and in now way distasteful. Five light, 2 heavy:




The argument about realism: First of all, you'll have to cut out a variety of costumes if one wishes to push realism. If you wish to make the most realistic character, and take the time to craft the styles and dye the armor... I'll gladly take the screen shots and post them on the screen shot thread boasting about, and congratulating, your efforts. You have like 13 or 14 other choices that are fully covered. Primal, btw, is not fully covered with metal as it appears to be a good deal of cloth undergarment visual.



But please don't deny my girls their right to flaunt what the gods gave them while they slap daedric beasties around....


The other big issue I have with this whole debate/argument is also the most common fallacy I find in these forums. People so often jump to the extreme. "You pervs need to go play them Asian MMOs!!" I have yet to see anyone asking for plate mail thongs and bikinis. So really... just drop that ridiculous argument/insult-in-disguise.

Once again, my position is just please don't take options away, only add them. Go ahead and add the new covered up armor style, but please add some way of obtaining the old classy elegant look as well. Even if that mean I have to look to the crown store, as long as the option is there.

@Esha76, i agree with you totally. Your Altmer Lady looks gorgeous and classy in that armor, but one would not want to get on her bad side or get anywhere near her face or cleavage without permission, since she also looks fierce enough to deal with any unwanted attempts to those areas in a heartbeat. Beautiful character. Good for You!

Covered this at length if the feminine armor topic too and if ever there was a subject that generates lots of heat without light it's this one.

But my Dunmeri lasses felt they won ESO the other night when they finally got this little item....


The fact that it's the rarest armor drop in the game, though, and is Daedric but not included in the Daedric motif says a lot in my view.

But this subject is set to all manner of trip wires in folks. It's a matter of emotion for many far beyond the reach of reason in this strange, strange game where you have spiders dressed up in dominatrix outfits and trees with boobs and butts...

I just want to pipe in as a fellow girl gamer, that, yes, I want to see some sexy gear. It doesn't need to be outlandishly provocative like Bellanca's last picture, but there is definitely a compromise that could be made.

Poor Ayrenn! Help, Help I'm being repressed!

I'd like to make a very important note here btw, lets go back to hmmm Morrowind, Skyrim, Oblivion these were all elder scrolls games yes? There were topless orcs, cleavage on women all over the place etc etc, soo why on ESO does there need to be a massive change like this? It's for 1 an 18 game which means there shouldn't be kids on this anyways if thats your concern, 2 it's not like the characters are naked or you could see there *** whats the differ here with this stylish armour and a character just taking everything off and showing way more than the outfits did?, 3 you see people worldwide wherever you go in the street with cleavage everywhere when you go shopping, when kids go to school, when people are swimming, on TV do I need to go on?, soo why is this so different in ESO and I'm sorry but people will just run around naked now and rp and stuffs, because there aren't any good outfits that look good soo your basically just going to make things worse than they were, what you should do ESO if you think about this correctly is give players a choice, they can have full body for those who want full body and natural the old set that showed cleavage, or why don't you do this to make every1 happy?, make a settings option where ppl have it completly censored (full body) or showing a bit of flesh people could toggle this on/off soo basically those who don't want flesh can censor it and wont even see it on other people characters and those that do can uncensor it that way every1's happy, it saves you time on all your coding melarchy you have to go through and stops people complaining, because your ruining peoples customization capabilities what's wrong with a character looking like a boss and having a good sense of style?

Whatever happened to the game companies that made amazing games and pleased their fans? why have they been replaced by these money hungry companies who don't care about anything but the money?!

I mean in all seriousness and fairness all game companies only do something now to make money, it's never about their fans, or anything else, what happened to the passion of making a good game every1 will love.

Time to allow graphics mods like the other TES games?

Just look at the redguard light armor. All these NPCs now stand out for horrifying dorkiness.

I can definitely see the frustration here and I don't think it's misplaced. Even though it's only cosmetic, they changed the base game just so they could sell more in the store. So instead of just adding more interesting looking armor and cosmetics (Skyrim Daedric for example), they'll be adding in sexy versions of the armor that we already had from the beginning. I understand that they need to sell stuff in the store to keep business going, but that's just lazy developing and it's wrong imo.

Oh noes !! ZoS hates bewbs

SaiHitaku_ESO wrote: »

Jesus, everyone here is whining and crying over some damn armor. While the redguard change im indifferent on, the orc change was absolutely necessary.
It's heavy plate armor, having a massive chest window completely destroyed the purpose of having such protective armor. I'm assuming no one here was smart enough to realize, but ESO has been striving to make the weapons and armors realistic and functional. TES games have never been about skimpy women. And no, gods don't count, and neither does the old and outdated designs of arena and daggerfall.
Of course there are some exceptions to the rule, but for the most part, these changes are good and needed. Everyone needs to stop crying and whining over such little things. First people cried about unrealistic armor. They change it now people *** about not having skimpy armor. If you don't like it, go play Terra, they got plenty of what you want,

You're here crying about people crying. Oops? It's a fantasy game, it doesn't need 100% reality. Everyone here spends their time and possibly money on this game, so the right to voice an opinion on the quality of in-game resources is valid.