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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Bank Account Being Charged?

  • WylieCoyote1511
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    Not sure what people are on about.

    But I've not set up any payment methods, or subscription plan and it says I have 30 days remaining?
  • Flametyn
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    Not sure what people are on about.

    But I've not set up any payment methods, or subscription plan and it says I have 30 days remaining?

    Lol that's new to hear... or you are just a troll
    Edited by Flametyn on April 5, 2014 10:44AM
  • StevieKingslayer
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    Not sure what people are on about.

    But I've not set up any payment methods, or subscription plan and it says I have 30 days remaining?

    Luckaaayyyy. -snaps fingers-
    I am demanding better customer service from Zenimax Studios.
    I am demanding better and more open communication between the devs & the playerbase.
    Majin Stevie || Iothane || Nymphetamine
    PVP || PVE
    Player since beta.
  • Flametyn
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    Flametyn wrote: »
    i may have to be able to choose between recurring or not recurring from the first day i subs there's not any option to do that you are forced to subs with the recurring model
    This is really bad thinking about...
  • RipVanWinkleX
    Not sure what people are on about.

    But I've not set up any payment methods, or subscription plan and it says I have 30 days remaining?

    How did you do it?
  • jaschacasadiob16_ESO
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    Honestly that's what I would do:
    1. Contact CC and ask for a refund. This will be used as evidence by your bank (it will come with a unique number and date time) Mainly if you clicked I do not agree on the ToS.
    2. If you have already entered the credit card details for the subscription plan, fill in a fraud report, since the ToS does not say you will be charged those 15$ (but maybe I have simply missed it).
    2. Enter your bank account and contest the payment of the game itself, again as a fraud (they are charging you extra money to use what you have already paid for, without it being in the terms).

    You might wanna have a look at the ToS to see if they say something about those 15$. Just because I didn't find it, it does not mean it is not there.
    "Yesterday while searching a barrel in vVoM I found a lemon. Best drop of the whole run."

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  • StevieKingslayer
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    Flametyn wrote: »
    Not sure what people are on about.

    But I've not set up any payment methods, or subscription plan and it says I have 30 days remaining?

    Lol that's new to hear... or you are just a troll

    He is WylieCoyote :P
    I am demanding better customer service from Zenimax Studios.
    I am demanding better and more open communication between the devs & the playerbase.
    Majin Stevie || Iothane || Nymphetamine
    PVP || PVE
    Player since beta.
  • PrOxAnto
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    I was surprised by this aswell.
    I'll explain what happened to me ...
    I entered my credentials, they did take €13,- of my Paypal account, but it got refunded and sent back almost immediatly!
    I didnt even see any message on my bank account showing it took the money of off it.

    So rest asure, you will get it back and if you use Paypal, it should be within the day at least.

    I do however agree that the entire amount of money for an authorization is way to much, but at least they refunded it.
  • WylieCoyote1511
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    Flametyn wrote: »
    Not sure what people are on about.

    But I've not set up any payment methods, or subscription plan and it says I have 30 days remaining?

    Lol that's new to hear... or you are just a troll

    Not trolling...I have better things to do than that thank you!

  • WylieCoyote1511
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    Not sure what people are on about.

    But I've not set up any payment methods, or subscription plan and it says I have 30 days remaining?

    How did you do it?

    I haven't done anything, that's my point.

  • RipVanWinkleX
    Flametyn wrote: »
    Not sure what people are on about.

    But I've not set up any payment methods, or subscription plan and it says I have 30 days remaining?

    Lol that's new to hear... or you are just a troll

    Not trolling...I have better things to do than that thank you!

    Like telling us how to get past that system :P
  • Flametyn
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    Flametyn wrote: »
    Not sure what people are on about.

    But I've not set up any payment methods, or subscription plan and it says I have 30 days remaining?

    Lol that's new to hear... or you are just a troll

    Not trolling...I have better things to do than that thank you!

    Like telling us how to get past that system :P

    right...
  • WylieCoyote1511
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    ok whatever, hope you get your problems sorted!!
  • RipVanWinkleX
    ok whatever, hope you get your problems sorted!!

    Please?

  • Jazzblaster
    People like me who use things like Paysafe cards have straight up been lied to:

    Here's a quote from Peter Hines, Bethesda’s Global VP of Marketing and PR:

    “If you don’t like the game, of course you’re not subscribing to it. You get the game, you get your first month without having to pay for a subscription to see ‘is this thing a thing I like’? If your approach that you want to take is that, for example, you love Skyrim, you played it for 125 hours, but after three or four weeks you were done, then you can do the exact same thing in Elder Scrolls Online.”

    “You can buy it, play the hell out of it for four weeks and go ‘Eh! I’m done. I did everything I wanted to do, I did a bunch of single-player stuff, I did a bunch of PVP, and now I’m out.’ Then you’re out. The subscription is irrelevant. The initial purchase is exactly the same as any other PC game because you don’t have to pay for the subscription until your 30 days is up.”

    I'd post the source but i don't know if you're allowed to post external links...
  • Flametyn
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    what was this game update fore? there's noting about it in the patch notes...
  • RipVanWinkleX
    To be fair, I think he said that because he thought it would be that way. Someone in Zenimax is screwing us up. But, if he said that and knew; yea he was lying. (Not going to call names >.<)
  • Rylanor
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    I agree it's very cheeky of Zenimax to insist on it, even if it's standard practise, etc, especially if they're taking money and supposedly giving it back at some point. Not everyone can afford that especially if their bank happens to be slow to give it back, and I don't know how obvious that was on buying the game in the first place. We should be able to do 30 days since we bought the game and only then have to put in payment information.

    Anyone looking at Wildstar, btw, they're also taking credit card details, but not taking test amounts of money for nothing.
    Edited by Rylanor on April 5, 2014 11:25AM
    If at first you don't succeed, keep trying. And again. Eat a cookie, read a wiki, I dunno, just try to relax, the frustration will only give you a headache.
  • WylieCoyote1511
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    Does this help?
  • Bansheedragon
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    djabelek wrote: »
    I have a comment to those who are unhappy about only having 29 days left when they enter the game code.
    It seems to be something everyone has overlooked, and I'm hoping it might help.

    When you enter the game code you get 30 days free play time.
    Thing is that the day you enter the game code is day 1, which means you already started using the 30 days gametime.
    Its subtracting that day as day 1 of the 30 days, saying that you have day 1 plus 29 more days left so that when you come to day 30 it should say 0 days left.

    The counter starts when you enter the game code, not when you install the game, as it is then assumed that you have the game installed and start playing at that time.
    Regardless of whether you bought a physical or digital edition you do have the chance to install the game client before you enter he game code, as you either download it or install from a disc.

    Its just a thought for those who seem to have concerns/complaints regarding this, which seems to have been overlooked.
    If I overlooked/missed something the by all means tell me what that is, as I just want to help.

    Downloading the Digital copy I order I had to put in my code before I could actually D/L the game. that was on april 2nd and I still have not seen a day of game play because d/l was so large and could not get the servers to give me a good d/l speed, steam downloads faster than these guys.

    Could you not download the game from where you bought it from?
    Most retailers who sell games digitally lets you download the game from their website.
    Thought it could be its different with MMOs, I dont know for sure.

    I do agree that the DL speed is horrible at times, I had times when the DL speed was below 100 Kb/s when my top speed is at 1.6 Mb/s.
    Seems there is a lot left to be desired from ZOS.
  • Flametyn
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    Does this help?
    Did you went into support?
  • WylieCoyote1511
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    Flametyn wrote: »
    Does this help?
    Did you went into support?

    What do you mean? this is just my account page that I've cropped for obvious reasons.
  • _chase_
    _chase_
    For me the page at
    https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/users/account
    states:
    Game Time Remaining
    You have 30 days of game time remaining.
    It also states:
    Account Status
    Set Up Subscription Plan
    Early Access
    (as in there's no subscription plan).

    Still not sure how this works with their claim that “All players are required to set up and choose a subscription plan starting on Sunday, April 6th.”
  • Jazzblaster
    To be fair, I think he said that because he thought it would be that way. Someone in Zenimax is screwing us up. But, if he said that and knew; yea he was lying. (Not going to call names >.<)

    He apparently is the 'Global VP of Marketing and PR' the interview was from April 1 2014, you can't tell me the global VP of marketing and PR doesn't know how the payment model will work when that payment model was one of the most discussed topics leading up to release...
  • RipVanWinkleX
    To be fair, I think he said that because he thought it would be that way. Someone in Zenimax is screwing us up. But, if he said that and knew; yea he was lying. (Not going to call names >.<)

    He apparently is the 'Global VP of Marketing and PR' the interview was from April 1 2014, you can't tell me the global VP of marketing and PR doesn't know how the payment model will work when that payment model was one of the most discussed topics leading up to release...

    That or he is incompetent
  • Valwardon
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    To be fair, I think he said that because he thought it would be that way. Someone in Zenimax is screwing us up. But, if he said that and knew; yea he was lying. (Not going to call names >.<)

    He apparently is the 'Global VP of Marketing and PR' the interview was from April 1 2014, you can't tell me the global VP of marketing and PR doesn't know how the payment model will work when that payment model was one of the most discussed topics leading up to release...

    4 days ago. Considering that guy works for Bethesda you next guess is Zeni got greedy and ran with there own idea on this one.
  • deef85b16_ESO
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    This thread is growing like a festering wound (most views in this section), they must have been noticing it already by now and take appropriate actions ?

    Even some media are getting a hold of this and are reporting about it..
  • Flametyn
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    Can we post here external link?
    Edited by Flametyn on April 5, 2014 11:54AM
  • jaschacasadiob16_ESO
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    Well the Community Rules do not forbid it, as long as you dont post malicious links
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/60843/community-rules#latest
    "Yesterday while searching a barrel in vVoM I found a lemon. Best drop of the whole run."

    Protect the weak. Heal the sick.
    Treasure the gifts of friendship. Seek joy and inspiration in the mysteries of love.
    Honor the Earth, its creatures, and the spirits. Use Nature's gifts wisely. Respect her power. Fear her fury.
  • Valwardon
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    Even some media are getting a hold of this and are reporting about it..

    They should I wrote a tip on it. On one of the biggest game news tip sites where they all pull there info from.
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