Isn't the compensation too strong?

fall0athboy · April 21

JerBearESO wrote: »

TDVM wrote: »

Their statement:

I agree with the rest, with the exception of 16k thousand Seals of Endeavor, don't you think that 16k is a lot? considering that the players have only been in the bathhouse for a few days and how long does it take to collect such an amount? Why not change this number to 8k? What do you think about this?

Why would you say this ? XD hahaha

I think it's a lot for a reason. This was a massive mistake, so a massive handout of basicly a free apex radiant mount is totally appreciated. Not too much at all

Right? And the fact that they get to choose which Radiant Apex mount they get is a nice touch as well.

Or spend it on anything else, it's 16k seals to go to whatever.

Amottica · April 21

Hailan wrote: »

wilykcat wrote: »

TDVM wrote: »

Their statement:

I agree with the rest, with the exception of 16k thousand Seals of Endeavor, don't you think that 16k is a lot? considering that the players have only been in the bathhouse for a few days and how long does it take to collect such an amount? Why not change this number to 8k? What do you think about this?

Participation rewards for this? Noted.

I very much agree with your statement on this. Players who were locked out of their account for only 2 days get all this free stuff including a huge amount of seals of endeavors. This isn't really fair to the rest of the players who never were locked out of their accounts. For a player who didn't get affected, it will take him/her many months of daily grinding to get 16k seals of endeavors.

I also agree that the amount should be lowered to 8k as well.

An ongoing trend is, its always a few players who overly complain about something that's temporary (such as not being able to play the game for 2 days). Then they make demands to get all this free stuff along with additional changes. Later they realize that complaining does get them everything they want, so they will keep on doing it. Which will eventually end up going downhill.
When the PC/NA server went down a few days ago, I was at work. The other maintenance was on my day off. I decided to go outside, embrace nature, and enjoy the nice warm springtime weather. Then my frustration disappeared and later everything turned out alright.

It’s longer than 2 days my friend. We’re now in the 4th day of being unable to play with no update as of this comment’s posting as to when we’ll have our accounts back.

And the players who are locked out yet did nothing wrong cannot do a thing while everyone else can play. Some of these people are locked out on their days off where they would have spent hours in the game.

I am not locked out and see no issue with the compensation Zenimax has offered. This is not like maintenance where the entire sever is down and this is also lasting for days, not hours.

MidniteOwl1913 · April 21

The compensation is not too strong.

It's been over a week for them now. A couple of days is one thing, over a week and counting (especially when the original est. was 2-3 days) is something in a completely different class.

thinkaboutit · April 21

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

The compensation is not too strong.

It's been over a week for them now. A couple of days is one thing, over a week and counting (especially when the original est. was 2-3 days) is something in a completely different class.

Over a week and in some cases 2 progression weeks worth of raids when all is said and done.

Foxtrot39 · April 21

The more i read the comments the more I realize ZoS just need to "pay" PTS player testing the content with seals

Doesn't cost zos anything as they print all the currencies and player get incentives to partake with PTS content

FlopsyPrince · April 21

SilverBride wrote: »

hiyde wrote: »

There are active threads about the style page drop rate. I agree it's too low and do not understand why TPTB aren't responding, and have said that in those threads.

I don't understand either but the silence is making it feel that much worse.

I don't recall many replies on low drop rate problems in the past.

Muriel_La_Strega · April 21

it wouldn't be if they had done something for console players too, the drop rate is absurd, almost offensive, the constant disconnections (and sometimes it takes more than 10 minutes to log back in due to constant login errors), make the game unplayable.

Vrienda · April 21

No it's not too strong, why are people so mad about this lmao.

wilykcat · April 21

Vrienda wrote: »

No it's not too strong, why are people so mad about this lol.

It's funny to see some of those comments are making a mountain out of a molehill about this. I agree.

Noted: Everyone has his/her own opinions on this and it's ok. ✅️

flizomica · April 21

I feel like if you would rather have cosmetic rewards applied to an account that you cannot access instead of, idk, actually playing the game, then you might not like the game all that much.

xclassgaming · April 21

wilykcat wrote: »

Vrienda wrote: »

No it's not too strong, why are people so mad about this lol.

It's funny to see some of those comments are making a mountain out of a molehill about this. I agree.

Noted: Everyone has his/her own opinions on this and it's ok. ✅️

Not really, personally i feel like the people trying to get our compensation lowered are just being utterly cruel.

Masteroshi430 · April 21

flizomica wrote: »

I feel like if you would rather have cosmetic rewards applied to an account that you cannot access instead of, idk, actually playing the game, then you might not like the game all that much.

THIS.
Personally, I'm waiting for my account to be unlocked to be able to play & add new features to my addons, I don't care about the cosmetic gifts they offer for compensation, I wasn't even farming the event, I was just glad to have the boxes with my morning crafting writs and reading the non banned players crying a river about the compensation just makes my wait worse.

Soraka · April 21

I can only speak for myself, but I love this game. I don't love grinding something hours on end. ESO has tons of different things to do. The rewards in question were tied to basically one type of game play in excess.

*I don't want anyone's rewards lessened I'm still happy you're not being ignored. I'm just jealous because I don't have all the rewards when the event ends

Tatanko · April 21

flizomica wrote: »

I feel like if you would rather have cosmetic rewards applied to an account that you cannot access instead of, idk, actually playing the game, then you might not like the game all that much.

Nailed it.

WaywardArgonian · April 21

Some people have been locked out of their accounts for days during an ongoing event. ZOS made a major mistake, and is giving those players a major compensation. It keeps those players happy and it doesn't affect you in any way.

But it's human nature at work here, kinda funny to see.

Ishtarknows · April 21

In a thread concerning only the compensation maybe we could lose the moaning posts about the drop rate of the pages.

Yes the drop rate sucks, I've farmed hundreds of each dolmen, boss and geyser myself so yes I get it, but that fact is entirely separate to the compensation for those players locked out for (what looks to be) over a week during an event such as this so please don't confuse the two.

If anything, I feel the compensation is ok, but a little light on boxes of rewards

TDVM · April 21

WaywardArgonian wrote: »

But it's human nature at work here, kinda funny to see.

If you think so, then your answer may also apply to the party who believes that this is a well-balanced compensation

Savina · April 21

Don’t think those locked could be totally compensated for the game time lost. Each one of them has lost something different depending on their play style. Therefore, ZoS could never come up with a compensation package that would 100% satisfy them all. The compensation stated on April 18th seemed fair at the time. With each passing day they remain locked out it seems less and less appropriate in my opinion. What appeared to be a few days now seems to have become at least a week. These players have no idea if they will be returning at the beginning of this coming week or if it could still be another week or two.

Most of the players locked out are the people that make ESO a better place. They are the beta testers, content and addon creators, they are the very people that care enough about this game and this community to take the time to log in to the PTS. They take the time to make the reports, engage on the forums and give opinions on the new upcoming content. To see the same community that they help to build, and nurture turn on them over some endeavors is sad.

This has really been a dark time. ZoS has a huge mistake they need to get cleaned up ASAP. Players are locked out with no clue when their accounts will be reactivated. The vocal forum community seems to be more at odds than ever over something that doesn’t impact most of them.

To the original poster I will say thank you for making this post. Every dark cloud has a silver lining. This thread has allowed so many to show their true colors. So many statements by so many that are eye-opening and revealing for sure!

To those of you that are locked out I have sympathy for you and hope your accounts will be restored sooner rather than later. Thank you for the things you do to make this community a more enjoyable place!

Mike71 · April 21

What is the Public Test Server (PTS)?

The Public Test Server (PTS) is an open server run separately from The Elder Scrolls Online megaservers that we use to test new and upcoming content.

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/#en/answer/20662

Idinuse · April 21

I think the compensation is absolutely awesome from ZOS. It feels like they mean business this time, and I for one appreciate it. No, I am not one of the players that got a locked account due to PTS, I still feel happy for the way ZOS did this.

SilverBride · April 21

Idinuse wrote: »

I think the compensation is absolutely awesome from ZOS. It feels like they mean business this time, and I for one appreciate it. No, I am not one of the players that got a locked account due to PTS, I still feel happy for the way ZOS did this.

I would be perfectly fine with it IF they didn't leave those of us grinding for hours every day for pages that aren't dropping out of getting anything, even just a little substantial increase in the drop rate.

hiyde · April 21

SilverBride wrote: »

Idinuse wrote: »

I think the compensation is absolutely awesome from ZOS. It feels like they mean business this time, and I for one appreciate it. No, I am not one of the players that got a locked account due to PTS, I still feel happy for the way ZOS did this.

I would be perfectly fine with it IF they didn't leave those of us grinding for hours every day for pages that aren't dropping out of getting anything, even just a little increase in the drop rate.

Just to make sure I understand, the compensation for those locked out for 8 or more days is only acceptable if ZOS addresses a seperate complaint you are championing? I hope I'm reading this wrong?

SilverBride · April 21

hiyde wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Idinuse wrote: »

I think the compensation is absolutely awesome from ZOS. It feels like they mean business this time, and I for one appreciate it. No, I am not one of the players that got a locked account due to PTS, I still feel happy for the way ZOS did this.

I would be perfectly fine with it IF they didn't leave those of us grinding for hours every day for pages that aren't dropping out of getting anything, even just a little increase in the drop rate.

Just to make sure I understand, the compensation for those locked out for 8 or more days is only acceptable if ZOS addresses a seperate complaint you are championing? I hope I'm reading this wrong?

That isn't how I meant it. I am fine with the rewards they are given but a lot of us are bitter that NOTHING is being done about these brutally low drop rates and WE should be considered, too.

I'd rather be locked out for a week and get these rewards for free than spend the week I have just being increasingly frustrated every hour that goes by with nothing. I've been trying 9 days for several hours a day for one drop. How is that right? How can we not feel bitter that we are being ignored?

We aren't even asking for the pages to be given to us... just to increase these extremely low drop rates for the rest of the event!

Savina · April 21

SilverBride wrote: »

Idinuse wrote: »

I think the compensation is absolutely awesome from ZOS. It feels like they mean business this time, and I for one appreciate it. No, I am not one of the players that got a locked account due to PTS, I still feel happy for the way ZOS did this.

I would be perfectly fine with it IF they didn't leave those of us grinding for hours every day for pages that aren't dropping out of getting anything, even just a little substantial increase in the drop rate.

You are either fine with the compensation or you are not. One (the compensation) has absolutely nothing to do with the other (drop rate).

As I said before so many statements by so many that are eye-opening and revealing for sure!

hiyde · April 21

SilverBride wrote: »

I am fine with the rewards they are given

Phew! Glad to hear that. I was hoping I misread.

I'd hate to see any further tying together of these unrelated issues, especially while all the folks locked out still have no idea when they'll get back in-game while the rest of us have been able to play through the event.

Idinuse · April 21

SilverBride wrote: »

hiyde wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Idinuse wrote: »

I think the compensation is absolutely awesome from ZOS. It feels like they mean business this time, and I for one appreciate it. No, I am not one of the players that got a locked account due to PTS, I still feel happy for the way ZOS did this.

I would be perfectly fine with it IF they didn't leave those of us grinding for hours every day for pages that aren't dropping out of getting anything, even just a little increase in the drop rate.

Just to make sure I understand, the compensation for those locked out for 8 or more days is only acceptable if ZOS addresses a seperate complaint you are championing? I hope I'm reading this wrong?

That isn't how I meant it. I am fine with the rewards they are given but a lot of us are bitter that NOTHING is being done about these brutally low drop rates and WE should be considered, too.

I'd rather be locked out for a week and get these rewards for free than spend the week I have just being increasingly frustrated every hour that goes by with nothing. I've been trying 9 days for several hours a day for one drop. How is that right? How can we not feel bitter that we are being ignored?

I get your frustration and I share it too. It would be a fine 10th anniversary gesture to raise the drop rate now as it is close to the end. I have 3/5 style pages (I only really wanted the Ul’vor Staff anyway which I got) and I would just feel happy for all people who would get the ones I farmed for, with a raised RNG drop rate.

SilverBride · April 21

hiyde wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I am fine with the rewards they are given

Phew! Glad to hear that. I was hoping I misread.

I'd hate to see any further tying together of these unrelated issues, especially while all the folks locked out still have no idea when they'll get back in-game while the rest of us have been able to play through the event.

They are tied together for some us though in that one group is being compensated while the other can't get even a little bit of help, or even acknowledged.

hiyde · April 21

SilverBride wrote: »

hiyde wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I am fine with the rewards they are given

Phew! Glad to hear that. I was hoping I misread.

I'd hate to see any further tying together of these unrelated issues, especially while all the folks locked out still have no idea when they'll get back in-game while the rest of us have been able to play through the event.

They are tied together for some us though in that one group is being compensated while the other can't get even a little bit of help, or even acknowledged.

Agree to disagree. I see a huge difference between being (rightfully) unhappy with a drop rate and being locked out for at least a week, maybe longer and being unable to even log in to participate for at least half of this game's biggest event ever.

What I'm not going to condone is making those people feel any worse by saying they only deserve what they get if my unrelated issues with the game are also addressed to my satisfaction.

SilverBride · April 21

hiyde wrote: »

What I'm not going to condone is making those people feel any worse by saying they only deserve what they get if my unrelated issues with the game are also addressed to my satisfaction.

I never said that. I just said that WE could use some help too but they won't even reply to any of our questions about it. Grinding every day just to be disppointed over and over hasn't been enjoying this event.

hiyde · April 21

SilverBride wrote: »

hiyde wrote: »

What I'm not going to condone is making those people feel any worse by saying they only deserve what they get if my unrelated issues with the game are also addressed to my satisfaction.

I never said that. I just said that WE could use some help too but they won't even reply to any of our questions about it.

Well it kinda seemed like you were saying that, which I'm glad you were able to clarify so that people didn't jump to incorrect conclusions.