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sampaku✭✭I wish to play game. No wish to sleep. If game not playable soon I should sleep. If don't know when game will be playable don't know if should sleep. Halp.3 -
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I have, but you have no reason to believe me anyway. Rebutt the argument, not the point.
A guy a few posts back mentioned this, but I'll reiterate it; if it's a software/patch related issue, it should have been worked on on offline servers before live servers were touched.
Then you should know any suitably complex system _will_ behave in unexpected ways. It's an elementary fact of software development or server administration at any level.
Your 100 line script you put on GitHub may work flawlessly on 5 linux machines you tested it with, only to break on somebody's Gentoo install because they riced their compile settings.
I'm just offering perspective, because I have nothing to do myself while waiting for the server to come up. Don't shoot the messenger, just offering something a little more objective and useful than the usual "ARRR BAD ZOS IS BAD" posts here, based on my limited personal experience.[beta_group_85b_9]3 -
Z0MBiEjaw✭✭✭
Oh no, that was due to both of my weaknesses; embedding youtube videos into these posts, and hitting < instead of > while holding shift.
Luminous beings, are we; not this crude matter.0 -
DarkoDon✭✭hillrdb16_ESO wrote: »This happens with EVERY mmo, it's nothing new. They have reasons for taking down servers. It's only the NA server so the majority in this region aren't playing at this time, atleast on weekdays. It is and always will be the best time for them to run any maintenence in any mmo. Sometimes they can't give an ETA, no worries. The updates are still happening in the thread (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/64331/server-maintenance-4-2-14-01-00am-edt#latest)
For those of you that live in EU and play on NA to be with friends/guilds, that was your choice and you have to accept the sacrifice you make.
Honestly I'd rather wait 8 hours and have the crash problems worked out, since my game was effected while servers were up. Not saying that's what they are working on, but they will eventually and the servers will come down.
We've had a pretty darn successful launch, been a long time since I've seen one. But as soon as the server comes down, at a pretty decent time considering NA prime-times, we tend to forget that they made a beuatiful game that's gonna have a long loyal playerbase if they keep things running smoothly and addressing things as fast as they have.
Just because a terrible launch has become "the norm" does not excuse anything. A great many have commented on the lack of PR involved in this situation regarding a friendly ETA.
As a customer of a new subscription based product, I would like to think the company would encourage communication with their customers when *** hits the fan.
I'm not going to subscribe monthly to anything that cant give me the time of day.
Yea guy, i'm already in a discussion with someone saying the same thing, no need to say it again. Just keep reading my post you qouted if you want a response from me. Thx
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Bunzaga_ESO✭✭✭
I have, but you have no reason to believe me anyway. Rebutt the argument, not the point.
A guy a few posts back mentioned this, but I'll reiterate it; if it's a software/patch related issue, it should have been worked on on offline servers before live servers were touched.
Then you should know any suitably complex system _will_ behave in unexpected ways. It's an elementary fact of software development or server administration at any level.
Your 100 line script you put on GitHub may work flawlessly on 5 linux machines you tested it with, only to break on somebody's Gentoo install because they riced their compile settings.
I'm just offering perspective, because I have nothing to do myself while waiting for the server to come up. Don't shoot the messenger, just offering something a little more objective and useful than the usual "ARRR BAD ZOS IS BAD" posts here, based on my limited personal experience.
This actually happened to us at the GDC.2 -
Medgirlpts_ESO wrote: »@grimnitz That is wrong on so many levels.
Pish. That is some quality artwork depicting EXACTLY how the struggles of our ESO community versus the fearful Overlords of DOOOOOM (a.k.a the Sheep Technicians) needs to be resolved.
i.e. we take em down, roman *** style
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1. No it's not. Happens every mmo and will continue. There's no way to change that FACT there, so stop trying.
2. Agree with you there. But it was just the most recent example.
3. You got what you paid for. Your playing the game early. (5 days or 3 days, whatever you paid for.) The game has only been down for maybe a total of 8-10 hours in the 60 hours it has been since early release.
4. Your posting your dissatisfaction on the forums for all these people who can't do a thing for you seems either unproductive or a cry for attention. If you are dissatisfied so much, write an email, make some calls, hire a lawyer, or just plain quit the game and don't come back. Posting here is doing changing nothing concerning your dissatisfaction. This isn't the developers "plain" blunders. I'm pretty sure you don't develop games...give it a shot.
** On a side note, we pay $15 a month on top of innitial purchase. Are you saying you don't want our money going to fixes/extra content? I hate to pay $15 a month for them to just sit back and you get what you get. Nice to see my money going to good use.
1. Yes, it is irrelevant because I didn't pay 60 dollars to them. They are not held accountable for Zenimax's failures.
3. Game shouldn't be going down in early release for such long periods of time. Also, it's unreasonable to expect a grown adult that actually works for a living to be available for all 60 of those hours.
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a.) devs have posted in this thread
b.) threads by nature are cries for attention
c.) If I am dissatisfied I can voice my opinion or do whatever I so please. Whether that be post on a forum or cancel my order.
d.) I don't have to develop games to call them out for their nonsense after I'm paying them $60. It's called being the consumer.
**On a side note, yes I want fixes and extra content, but how about postponing the nonessentials until AFTER the early access period we were promised. This five hour bugfix is unreasonable during EARLY ACCESS. I wouldn't really care if it were after early access.
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anthemik✭
Oh no, that was due to both of my weaknesses; embedding youtube videos into these posts, and hitting < instead of > while holding shift.
That's a lot better than my weakness, which is grass and flower pollen.0 -
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ulgrenn✭I will never understand why people say they get shafted and they should be reimbursed for missing playtime when servers are down. What exactly is 'missing playtime'?? Just because you're home and can play but servers is down isn't 'missing playtime'. What do you call it when you're at work or out shopping or just doing other stuff? Or when you do other things and and not able to play but servers is down while you're at work for example? Thats missing playtime as well but you wouldn't call it that then would you?
There i fixed your grammer for you, your welcome
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Cry_Wolfe✭✭✭https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail2/a_id/4320
the other thread i am having an argument with...0 -
sampaku✭✭FTWhitledge wrote: »
If only it were impaired by lack of sleep, then the decision would be easy. Hard to say why I decided to write that post like that... I'm exceptionally bored I guess. Zeni plz.
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KaizerXul✭✭✭I will never understand why people say they get shafted and they should be reimbursed for missing playtime when servers are down. What exactly is 'missing playtime'?? Just because you're home and can play but servers is down isn't 'missing playtime'. What do you call it when you're at work or out shopping or just doing other stuff? Or when you do other things and and not able to play but servers is down while you're at work for example? Thats missing playtime as well but you wouldn't call it that then would you?
There i fixed your grammer for you, your welcome
There.* I* grammar* you're* welcome.*
Edited by KaizerXul on April 2, 2014 9:21AM"When I left you, I was but the learner. Now *I* am the master."9 -
Bunzaga_ESO✭✭✭
... I don't know if I should laugh or cry.I will never understand why people say they get shafted and they should be reimbursed for missing playtime when servers are down. What exactly is 'missing playtime'?? Just because you're home and can play but servers is down isn't 'missing playtime'. What do you call it when you're at work or out shopping or just doing other stuff? Or when you do other things and and not able to play but servers is down while you're at work for example? Thats missing playtime as well but you wouldn't call it that then would you?
There i fixed your grammer for you, your welcome
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