Grim Focus Permaglow

joseayalac · January 11

ZOS, please fix this already.

The reason I dislike it is because it is ruining so many weapon styles! It just shows on top of other effects or doesn't align properly.

Specially with weapons sheathed it is worse.

dcrush · January 11

It looks like ZOS’s response to player feedback on this was filed in the same drawer as the U35 Q&A.

NoticeMeArkay · January 11

dcrush wrote: »

It looks like ZOS’s response to player feedback on this was filed in the same drawer as the U35 Q&A.

I've reached the point where I'd say that expecting them to file anything in regards of this or other longterm issues that other companies would have long taken care of by now, is quite the generous thought.

I'm not a native speaker, so I just had to spent a couple minutes on the web to find the most fitting term to describe how I feel in regards of ZOS practices. - Appalment. I feel appaled. Thanks for teaching me this new word, Zos.

Tan9oSuccka · January 11

This needs fixing please. Add an option to toggle it off.

It’s a massive eyesore. I would prefer to be not perma lit like a holiday tree.

joseayalac · January 12

Please give me my NB aesthetic back ZOS.

ADarklore · January 12

I'm glad I don't play my NB anymore! If I did, I'd have to remove this skill just to avoid the annoying 'perma-glow'. Not sure who thought this was a good idea, but if they are going to make it permanent, they should give players an OPTIONAL toggle in settings to disable it. CHOICES are always better than forcing something upon players.

wilykcat · January 12

In my opinion, I honestly don't think it looks that bad since there are some darker red swirly things on the weapons. It doesn't glow as bright when weapons are sheath, in daylight, or when there's another brighter glowing light source.

On the other hand when the weapons are out, it glows brighter, and, the red glow is more obvious in dimmer lighting or darkness.

I have night blade alts and the color red ain't stopping me from playing.

RetPing · January 12

wilykcat wrote: »

In my opinion, I honestly don't think it looks that bad since there are some darker red swirly

I have night blade alts and the color red ain't stopping me from playing.

To show that a red permaglow is not that bad you use a character that is totally red thus masking that thing?
You don't see any flaw in your thesis?

KiltMaster · January 12

I can't believe they designed it to be like this. Kinda wild to me.

I like the idea of having glowy swords, but if I want that, I just use a style page. If something is going to color your weapons, you should be able to opt out.

wilykcat · January 12

I make the red glow look good by making my character's outfit red and white. Now I play my nightblade a lot more since she looks so much better with the new outfit. Problem solved.

As everyone's opinions are different (even within this debate about the red glow) its best to respect all.

aspergalas4 · January 12

Fix this please.

Araneae6537 · January 12

wilykcat wrote: »

I make the red glow look good by making my character's outfit red and white. Now I play my nightblade a lot more since she looks so much better with the new outfit. Problem solved.

As everyone's opinions are different (even within this debate about the red glow) its best to respect all.

Agreed! That’s why I advocate ZOS respecting all players, many of us who have invested time and money in customizing our characters, and lose the permaglow from the slotted ability (and never do such a thing with an ability again!) and give all players (regardless of class) the OPTION to give a glow to character weapons via the outfit station or similar.

Options are good!

This red glow did not at all work for my nature-themed (ranger archetype) and stealthy shadow themed nightblade characters.

vsrs_au · January 13

Yes, it's funny how many of ZOS' design decisions could be fixed for ALL players simply by making a particular feature optional.

aspergalas4 · January 15

Araneae6537 wrote: »

wilykcat wrote: »

I make the red glow look good by making my character's outfit red and white. Now I play my nightblade a lot more since she looks so much better with the new outfit. Problem solved.

As everyone's opinions are different (even within this debate about the red glow) its best to respect all.

Agreed! That’s why I advocate ZOS respecting all players, many of us who have invested time and money in customizing our characters, and lose the permaglow from the slotted ability (and never do such a thing with an ability again!) and give all players (regardless of class) the OPTION to give a glow to character weapons via the outfit station or similar.

Options are good!

This red glow did not at all work for my nature-themed (ranger archetype) and stealthy shadow themed nightblade characters.

Couldn't agree more. Options options options.

Dax_Draconis · January 17

So I just wanted to express my displeasure with the permanent glow. Why is my only choice to remove the skill?

Please fix this issue.

kind_hero · January 17

Why should it be removed?

Because my stealthy nightblade now has some red emergency light enabled, like you would put bells on cats.

I like it in the way that you build up the stacks, so you have this visual cue, but I don't see why it should be permanently on. I'm not sure how many other classes have something like that, it's unusual.

It shouldn't show up over other item effects, such as ruining the Gloambound invisibility, or changing the color theme of other styles we paid crowns for.

As a compromise, you can make a style that will mimic this behavior for the players who like it. For example, I would like a similar glow, but golden, for my templar.

Shazanti · January 17

I utterly despise the permanent glow.

I would understand if this glow was a 'skill is ready to be used now!' because that is, indeed, quite useful as it can be very helpful. Having the glow always on means I am forced to remove a skill that I would much rather not be forced to remove entirely.

Please tweak this skill to remove the always-on effect, so that my NB gets her entire kit back. Please.

joseayalac · January 19

wilykcat wrote: »

I make the red glow look good by making my character's outfit red and white. Now I play my nightblade a lot more since she looks so much better with the new outfit. Problem solved.

Yeah and you just ruined thousands upon thousands of outfits that costed money and a lot of time. Players have even bonded with some of their character's looks.

Also, you're pidgeonholing thousands of characters to being red, I don't think this is a good idea.

dcrush · January 20

Don’t worry, we’ve got scribing coming up so then you can change the color of your skills… only for the grim focus light to still make them look red probably.

Faulgor · January 20

Good luck.

I've been asking for a change to Boundless Armor for 10 years so I can actually see my character I've spent a lot of time, gold and money designing outfits for. They don't care.

Only hope is that down the line, we will get Skill Styles for class skills. Although those will most likely end up in the cash shop.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · January 20

Faulgor wrote: »

Good luck.

I've been asking for a change to Boundless Armor for 10 years so I can actually see my character I've spent a lot of time, gold and money designing outfits for. They don't care.

Only hope is that down the line, we will get Skill Styles for class skills. Although those will most likely end up in the cash shop.

@Faulgor Do you mean Boundless Storm? Because there's no such thing as Boundless Armor, only Bound Armour and that has had its effect permanently removed instead of permanently on like Grim Focus.

Boundless Storm is still the same as always.

aspergalas4 · January 20

I am really hoping we get a red glow option for all the spells with the scribing and spell styling features coming with the new chapter so I can match the aesthetic I didn't actually choose but was imposed on my NB.

Araneae6537 · January 20

Faulgor wrote: »

Good luck.

I've been asking for a change to Boundless Armor for 10 years so I can actually see my character I've spent a lot of time, gold and money designing outfits for. They don't care.

Only hope is that down the line, we will get Skill Styles for class skills. Although those will most likely end up in the cash shop.

That’s only while the skill (I assume you mean Boundless Storm?) is being used, like the effect or not. Same for DK, I don’t like how a lot of the effects look, but none are constant, just for having the skill slotted. The NB permanent ugly Grim Focus effect is ridiculous and serves no purpose.

shimm · January 20

I like it. Keep adding cool visual cues like this.

MikeSkyrim333 · January 21

NotaDaedraWorshipper · January 21

shimm wrote: »

I like it. Keep adding cool visual cues like this.

There's no cue.

vsrs_au · January 21

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

shimm wrote: »

I like it. Keep adding cool visual cues like this.

There's no cue.

Agreed, what we need is a proper cue: no glow for 0 grim focus stacks, incrementally going up to the full glow for 5 stacks. That's how it should have been to start with.

Faulgor · January 21

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

Good luck.

I've been asking for a change to Boundless Armor for 10 years so I can actually see my character I've spent a lot of time, gold and money designing outfits for. They don't care.

Only hope is that down the line, we will get Skill Styles for class skills. Although those will most likely end up in the cash shop.

@Faulgor Do you mean Boundless Storm? Because there's no such thing as Boundless Armor, only Bound Armour and that has had its effect permanently removed instead of permanently on like Grim Focus.

Boundless Storm is still the same as always.

Always forget what the base morph is called. I'm talking about Lightning Form.

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

Good luck.

I've been asking for a change to Boundless Armor for 10 years so I can actually see my character I've spent a lot of time, gold and money designing outfits for. They don't care.

Only hope is that down the line, we will get Skill Styles for class skills. Although those will most likely end up in the cash shop.

That’s only while the skill (I assume you mean Boundless Storm?) is being used, like the effect or not. Same for DK, I don’t like how a lot of the effects look, but none are constant, just for having the skill slotted. The NB permanent ugly Grim Focus effect is ridiculous and serves no purpose.

"Only while being used" is pretty much permanent in combat, though. And it's not just obscuring your look, but other effects placed on you as well. In certain environments, your character can become downright invisible. It's actually impeding gameplay.

I'm not saying it's exactly the same as Grim Focus, obviously there are differences. What's common is that ZOS rarely does anything about skill visual complaints.

shimm · January 21

vsrs_au wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

shimm wrote: »

I like it. Keep adding cool visual cues like this.

There's no cue.

Agreed, what we need is a proper cue: no glow for 0 grim focus stacks, incrementally going up to the full glow for 5 stacks. That's how it should have been to start with.

I like the glow, but this would be a good compromise.

shimm · January 21

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

shimm wrote: »

I like it. Keep adding cool visual cues like this.

There's no cue.

A visual cue is something that indicates a condition - glowing red indicates you have the skill on one of your bars.