Official Discussion Thread, "Unveiling The New Arcanist Class"

ZOS_Kevin

This is the official discussion thread for, "2023 Global Reveal- Unveiling The New Arcanist Class"

"Learn more about ESO’s new Arcanist class, just announced as part of the 2023 ESO Global Reveal!"

Sound off below and let us know what you think of the new class!

Rex-Umbra

The class and companions look great but overall am quite disappointed as I feel the game also needed a major system that changed the overland like Spell crafting where it would add content to the entire world as players needed to explore and find new spells like was mentioned in 2014. The overland zones end up being bland and boring because they pose no challenge and Cyrodiil hasn't changed or had any shake up in years and requires a major facelift to make it interesting again. The Q4 system described sounds instanced PvE something that won't add life to the games hand crafting zones which need a facelift as well especially the major cities. Anyway my two cents

Khenarthi

Will we get more character slots? You know, for those of us already attached to 18 characters?

TaSheen

Broken23 wrote: »

Lydawobbles wrote: »

Will we get more character slots? Or do we have to delete a character to be able to be an Arcanist?

https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/1618356310365589504?t=vFG5V7Ol-PCHy7rOmz6MyQ&s=19

free character slot with chapter purchase

So now we know!

Chaos2088

When I saw new class, I was like omg yes!!! Then saw what is was….and disappointed really. Don’t think centring a class around a daedric Prince was a good move. It just feels abit….meh. Not been playing for a while and was hoping this would ignite my passion for the game again. Sadly not.

ArchMikem

Why was the Class centered completely around Hermaeus Mora? At first I was excited, cause I'm a Mage lover at heart, but when I saw the whole Class identity was eyeballs and tentacles the excitement drained real quick. I'm having the same experience I had with the Necromancer. If instead the reveal was an Unarmed Magicka weapon skill tree I would be through multiple roofs right now. But, now I'm left knowing there will be a second Class I won't ever touch.

ZOS_Kevin

Khenarthi wrote: »

Will we get more character slots? You know, for those of us already attached to 18 characters?

Yes! We are getting two new slots taking the total to 20!

thejadefalcon

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

Will we get more character slots? You know, for those of us already attached to 18 characters?

Yes! We are getting two new slots taking the total to 20!

Why not 21? Three of each class, one for each role, it's so obvious.

emilyhyoyeon

Chaos2088 wrote: »

When I saw new class, I was like omg yes!!! Then saw what is was….and disappointed really. Don’t think centring a class around a daedric Prince was a good move. It just feels abit….meh.

I also don't really like the idea of a class centered around a daedric prince, or anything super specific like that. It's like the Morrowind-theme in warden but amplified.

The parts that are just magical and runic looking are very nice. I would have to headcanon the skills like the tentacle arm as something else.

Necrotech_Master

i never thought i would go past 10 characters because of all the work to set up a new one, but apocrypha themed class? yes please sign me up for at least 2 more lol

CoolBlast3

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

Will we get more character slots? You know, for those of us already attached to 18 characters?

Yes! We are getting two new slots taking the total to 20!

Are there any thoughts on class changes?
We need a way of changing class, even if only once per toon!
After years of having a main, I've done every quest in the game, i've all my skill lines leveled, i've so much grind put in. I want to play with the new class (it looks AMAZING) but I won't actively be able to without class changing

I want to keep playing the story with my character who i'm attached too...but that'll lock me out of enjoying a new feature.

ZOS, you can do this in a way where you still control the grind-skip Crown Store items.
Make the tokens limited so people can't change at will. Sell them only when a new class or massive balance change drops. Do it only once, I don't know, but please, we need this! Please think about it at least!

Von_Yorshe

I am pretty excited for this new class, it's something that I felt like was missing for the past couple of years in the new content. Already brainstorming character ideas and I still gotta wait 5 months lol

Jeirno

The class looked great, I love the idea of a combo system so hoping it works seamlessly without heavy micromanaging on anything like that.

PeacefulAnarchy

thejadefalcon wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

Will we get more character slots? You know, for those of us already attached to 18 characters?

Yes! We are getting two new slots taking the total to 20!

Why not 21? Three of each class, one for each role, it's so obvious.

I agree, it also makes one of each per alliance.

Trinotops

A new class with a cool new mechanic while all the original classes are left to rot.

acastanza_ESO

Look, I'm as excited for this class as anyone, it looks AWESOME!
But calling it a "feature" was pretty misleading. A feature is something that existing characters can participate in. This isn't.

Also, any chance you can finally give us class change tokens?!
I desperately want my main to be an Arcanist (from what we've seen, it's everything I always wanted out of Sorcerer but didn't get), but the thought of having to start over makes me want to give up.

ESO_Nightingale

i mean the class looks cool and probably plays really well so i'll definitely check it out and probably play it a good amount, but i'm really disappointed.


spellcrafting or a new weapon like one handed melee weapon and rune was something i really wanted because i can use those on my existing character. a new class means a new character. i can't use those cool portals or spells on my frost warden.
pre-existing characters haven't gotten a new skill line since 2018 so i really hope that next year is one, or hell, maybe even 2 of those things.

the Q4 system was disappointing to me as well since i was hoping that it would be an announcement for something to do with veteran overland or something similar to revitalize old content. but i'm sure it's probably got some good rewards that are worthwhile, and might be a lot of fun with a leaderboard.

overall, this is definitely going to be a better year than either blackwood or high isle but, after those 2 years being really bland, i really needed something i'm super interested in to really reinvigorate me. this is like a mild refresher.

Seminolegirl1992

Excited for new slots as an rp person, but I really want class change tokens tbh. Sometimes a new class comes along that fits an existing character more than what I gave them originally, but recreating them is not just tedious but we often grow attached to characters we've had for a long time. It's not so simple as, "well just create a new one!" What if I want one of my favorite toons to be an arcanist?

phantasmalD

> Apocryphal Gate

You took away the ability to travel vertically with chains from Dragonknights years ago due to being "highly exploitable" in PvP.
And now you're essentially making it a selling point of a new class. Booo.

Give back vertical targeting and pulls for Dragonknights. At least outside of Cyrodiil.

Stinkyremy

CoolBlast3 wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

Will we get more character slots? You know, for those of us already attached to 18 characters?

Yes! We are getting two new slots taking the total to 20!

Are there any thoughts on class changes?
We need a way of changing class, even if only once per toon!
After years of having a main, I've done every quest in the game, i've all my skill lines leveled, i've so much grind put in. I want to play with the new class (it looks AMAZING) but I won't actively be able to without class changing

I want to keep playing the story with my character who i'm attached too...but that'll lock me out of enjoying a new feature.

ZOS, you can do this in a way where you still control the grind-skip Crown Store items.
Make the tokens limited so people can't change at will. Sell them only when a new class or massive balance change drops. Do it only once, I don't know, but please, we need this! Please think about it at least!

That is a nothing issue, just change to a different toon.
Yeah sure if you only wanted to do the PVE story once but wanted to play as X class and your main is Y class, it is a bit annoying but the PVE is so easy it doesn't even matter what class you play as as everything dies by spamming one skill.

With the universal achievements tied to every account now, it is so easy to just switch a different toon and still make overall progress in grindy content.

Danel_Vadan

With the introduction of Arcanist, can you delete Sorc, please?

Cast_El

Sounds awesome 👍😎

thejadefalcon

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

thejadefalcon wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

Will we get more character slots? You know, for those of us already attached to 18 characters?

Yes! We are getting two new slots taking the total to 20!

Why not 21? Three of each class, one for each role, it's so obvious.

I agree, it also makes one of each per alliance.

Also true! I currently have 6 in each alliance, it would be nice to not break that streak either!

CoolBlast3

Stinkyremy wrote: »

CoolBlast3 wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

Will we get more character slots? You know, for those of us already attached to 18 characters?

Yes! We are getting two new slots taking the total to 20!

Are there any thoughts on class changes?
We need a way of changing class, even if only once per toon!
After years of having a main, I've done every quest in the game, i've all my skill lines leveled, i've so much grind put in. I want to play with the new class (it looks AMAZING) but I won't actively be able to without class changing

I want to keep playing the story with my character who i'm attached too...but that'll lock me out of enjoying a new feature.

ZOS, you can do this in a way where you still control the grind-skip Crown Store items.
Make the tokens limited so people can't change at will. Sell them only when a new class or massive balance change drops. Do it only once, I don't know, but please, we need this! Please think about it at least!

That is a nothing issue, just change to a different toon.
Yeah sure if you only wanted to do the PVE story once but wanted to play as X class and your main is Y class, it is a bit annoying but the PVE is so easy it doesn't even matter what class you play as as everything dies by spamming one skill.

With the universal achievements tied to every account now, it is so easy to just switch a different toon and still make overall progress in grindy content.

It isn't a nothing issue. It's hundreds of hours of being connected to a character thrown away just to be able to do content we paid for lol. I get not everyone does the "roleplaying" part of the massively multiplayer roleplaying game, but it's still a valuable aspect of it.

Maitsukas

@ZOS_Kevin the article link doesn't seem to work at the moment, getting a 502 Bad Gateway on PC and a "THIS PAGE IS NOT THE ONE YOU SEEK" on mobile.

laurajf

ArchMikem wrote: »

Why was the Class centered completely around Hermaeus Mora? At first I was excited, cause I'm a Mage lover at heart, but when I saw the whole Class identity was eyeballs and tentacles the excitement drained real quick. I'm having the same experience I had with the Necromancer. If instead the reveal was an Unarmed Magicka weapon skill tree I would be through multiple roofs right now. But, now I'm left knowing there will be a second Class I won't ever touch.

This is exactly how I feel. I can't play the necromancer either because of the visuals, and I'm not sure if I could play this either unless I can piecemeal skills together that don't look too ridiculous (to me).

I'll have to reinstall PTS and see how it feels/looks when the time comes. Can't really say much else yet.

Eclipse318

ArchMikem wrote: »

Why was the Class centered completely around Hermaeus Mora? At first I was excited, cause I'm a Mage lover at heart, but when I saw the whole Class identity was eyeballs and tentacles the excitement drained real quick.

Could not agree more. 1000%
That stuff squicks me out and I won't be going anywhere near it. Hard nope.

ZOS_Kevin

Maitsukas wrote: »

@ZOS_Kevin the article link doesn't seem to work at the moment, getting a 502 Bad Gateway on PC and a "THIS PAGE IS NOT THE ONE YOU SEEK" on mobile.

That's odd. I just tried it and it worked. What browser are you using?

Stinkyremy

CoolBlast3 wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

CoolBlast3 wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

Will we get more character slots? You know, for those of us already attached to 18 characters?

Yes! We are getting two new slots taking the total to 20!

Are there any thoughts on class changes?
We need a way of changing class, even if only once per toon!
After years of having a main, I've done every quest in the game, i've all my skill lines leveled, i've so much grind put in. I want to play with the new class (it looks AMAZING) but I won't actively be able to without class changing

I want to keep playing the story with my character who i'm attached too...but that'll lock me out of enjoying a new feature.

ZOS, you can do this in a way where you still control the grind-skip Crown Store items.
Make the tokens limited so people can't change at will. Sell them only when a new class or massive balance change drops. Do it only once, I don't know, but please, we need this! Please think about it at least!

That is a nothing issue, just change to a different toon.
Yeah sure if you only wanted to do the PVE story once but wanted to play as X class and your main is Y class, it is a bit annoying but the PVE is so easy it doesn't even matter what class you play as as everything dies by spamming one skill.

With the universal achievements tied to every account now, it is so easy to just switch a different toon and still make overall progress in grindy content.

It isn't a nothing issue. It's hundreds of hours of being connected to a character thrown away just to be able to do content we paid for lol. I get not everyone does the "roleplaying" part of the massively multiplayer roleplaying game, but it's still a valuable aspect of it.

Roleplaying is cool, but quite simply what are you missing out on by just changing characters?
You can swap the gear from your main to alt via the back, back and forth, or create and earn gear for the alt instead.
The alt can get every skill the main can get except the 3 unique class skill lines.
The alt can do every quest the main can do.
And now with universal achievements, minus a few unique achievements, the alts progress (in most achievements) is shared with the main.

There is little in the way of restriction other than the one you are making for yourself.

I am not against class change, and even myself I pretty much always play with my main, but if I really wanted to change to a different character, there is nothing stopping me.

Wolf_Eye

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

Look, I'm as excited for this class as anyone, it looks AWESOME!
But calling it a "feature" was pretty misleading. A feature is something that existing characters can participate in. This isn't.

Also, any chance you can finally give us class change tokens?!
I desperately want my main to be an Arcanist (from what we've seen, it's everything I always wanted out of Sorcerer but didn't get), but the thought of having to start over makes me want to give up.

I don't think the new class is the feature. Near the end, they mentioned a new infinite dungeon system to be released in an update after the Necrom chapter.

Maitsukas

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Maitsukas wrote: »

@ZOS_Kevin the article link doesn't seem to work at the moment, getting a 502 Bad Gateway on PC and a "THIS PAGE IS NOT THE ONE YOU SEEK" on mobile.

That's odd. I just tried it and it worked. What browser are you using?

Firefox on Windows 10 and Chrome on my phone.