Winged Twilight Rant

Evilspock

What can be done about Winged Twilights? Does playing ESO mean I have to be innundated with Winged Twilights flapping in my face all the time?

I would like to keep playing, but am sick of seeing winged twilights constantly. They are huge, annoying, always flapping in your face everywhere you go. It really makes cities look like garbage and places you don't want to be. I can't be the only one that feels this way.

In the early years of the game, sorc pets would die so it wasn't a problem. Now they are practically invunerable once spawned, so players keep them summoned perpetually for all eternity. They are all over the place everywhere you go.

Solutions ZOS could implement:

1. Get rid of pet sorc skills completely and replace with something that isn't lame and disrupting, like cool wizard fireball skills. (Best solution)
2. Ability to hide or at least change the opacity of other's summoned pets, always
3. Make the winged twilights not so huge
4. Make twilights not so tanky, used as crutches that are always summoned
5. Have a timer or other mechanic that doesn't keep pets summoned forever

Juju_beans

maybe they could morph into butterflies when not in combat...much easier on the eyes especially at the crafting tables when doing daily writs.

Syldras

There's a option in the settings to disable visibility of other player's pets in towns.

fizzylu

As a sorcerer player who hates the sorcerer pets, I'd be happy to see them removed and replaced with normal abilities. Yeah, I get it.... "summoning daedra is apart of the lore", whatever.... they are a pain. They take up two slots, die super easily (even in PvE they can weirdly pull aggro and get stomped in things like world boss fights), and they're some of the most infuriating things to have on your screen in this game. I'd be a little more content if Zenimax would listen to the players that have been requesting a change to the sorc pets appearances for years now.... but they don't. Shocker, I know.

Marcus684

Evilspock wrote: »

What can be done about Winged Twilights? Does playing ESO mean I have to be innundated with Winged Twilights flapping in my face all the time?

I would like to keep playing, but am sick of seeing winged twilights constantly. They are huge, annoying, always flapping in your face everywhere you go. It really makes cities look like garbage and places you don't want to be. I can't be the only one that feels this way.

In the early years of the game, sorc pets would die so it wasn't a problem. Now they are practically invunerable once spawned, so players keep them summoned perpetually for all eternity. They are all over the place everywhere you go.

Solutions ZOS could implement:

1. Get rid of pet sorc skills completely and replace with something that isn't lame and disrupting, like cool wizard fireball skills. (Best solution)
2. Ability to hide or at least change the opacity of other's summoned pets, always
3. Make the winged twilights not so huge
4. Make twilights not so tanky, used as crutches that are always summoned
5. Have a timer or other mechanic that doesn't keep pets summoned forever

Every day I log into the game and every day I see all of the flapping monstrosities everywhere I turn. Maybe it’s just my aging eyes but I’m struggling to tolerate their incessant visual annoyance. I’m considering taking a break from the game because I find myself falling into a bad mood the more I have to deal with them.

BlueRaven

I have been playing this game since beta, I play a pet-less class as a main. How is it that I have never been bothered by other peoples pets?

fizzylu

BlueRaven wrote: »

I have been playing this game since beta, I play a pet-less class as a main. How is it that I have never been bothered by other peoples pets?

Patience? Maybe your brain doesn't get bothered by their oversized repetitive movements? Everyone is different and have little quirks/tweaks that can bother them. I mean, seriously haha my own pets even bother me; more than others even since they're always right there, bigger than my character, flapping about obnoxiously....

francesinhalover

ah ppl been asking for a way to disable other ppls pets to save lagg, disable other ppl npcs etc, companion, but nah man, we gotta put up with this horrible flying rats. And the maw monster set also doesn't help.

It's like i have said before, pick up the flying rat and at least give it a morph where it instead is a flying eye or something else that's small. or just remove the ability alltogether and give sorc a dot.

FeedbackOnly

Buy an house and all your needs are set? There's even an house right next to writ pickup boards.

LadyLethalla

My main in a Twilight-using sorc and I get annoyed by it. So I always desummon it if it's not essential. Which is most of the time.

Jamie_Aubrey

Give me a strong heal then

Clyde_BlueSnake

As someone whose main is a sorcerer, I sometimes do desummon my Twilight in cities, but not my Clannfear. In headcanon my vestige Argonian & the Clannfear became friends when escaping from Coldharbour.

Thee_Cheshire_Cat

Syldras wrote: »

There's a option in the settings to disable visibility of other player's pets in towns.

Where is this please.

Syldras

Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

There's a option in the settings to disable visibility of other player's pets in towns.

Where is this please.

Gameplay - general - limit followers in towns

Quackery

I use the Matriarch for healing, and the flapping wings drive me insane! We need a completely new skin for it where the wings don't cause seizures.

fizzylu

Quackery wrote: »

I use the Matriarch for healing, and the flapping wings drive me insane! We need a completely new skin for it where the wings don't cause seizures.

Seriously, I'm shocked that some people can't understand how jarring the visuals of the matriarch can be for some people. Sometimes even just the sound of the wings flapping can bother me haha especially since she NEVER STOPS; not even for a few seconds. I have veryyyy mild misophonia and I always have to unsummon her when I'm not in combat or moving constantly because if she's just next to me always flap flap flapping away, it can make me irritable and just negatively impact my mood in general.

vsrs_au

Syldras wrote: »

There's a option in the settings to disable visibility of other player's pets in towns.

A very limited option, which doesn't hide other players' pets in enough locations, e.g. you can still see them in banks, which are definitely high-traffic areas.

Syldras

vsrs_au wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

There's a option in the settings to disable visibility of other player's pets in towns.

A very limited option, which doesn't hide other players' pets in enough locations, e.g. you can still see them in banks, which are definitely high-traffic areas.

That's unfortunate (I don't use that setting, I just read that they introduced it with their last update). I really hope they'll fix that as there's really no reason to have pets visible in banks where normally no fighting occurs.

BretonMage

vsrs_au wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

There's a option in the settings to disable visibility of other player's pets in towns.

A very limited option, which doesn't hide other players' pets in enough locations, e.g. you can still see them in banks, which are definitely high-traffic areas.

Yeah, it was a fantastic idea that was poorly executed. As a petsorc, I was looking forward to the day I didn't have to dismiss my twilight in cities, but unfortunately that was not to be.

katanagirl1

It’s the giant form bobbing up and down in front of my camera that obliterates my view - the flap, flap, flap..flap… the not quite rhythmic but slightly asynchronous action and the loud flapping sound that makes me move away or be subjected to the complete distraction of whatever I was trying to do at that moment.

As I mentioned before, they are a LoS obstruction in trials. I cannot see if the flappy is in the way. I cannot target the boss if they are between my character and the enemy. Why can’t I choose an option to not see them if I wish, all the time? That way the other player can have their pet but it doesn’t interfere with my ability to dps?

Aendruu

Evilspock wrote: »

What can be done about Winged Twilights? Does playing ESO mean I have to be innundated with Winged Twilights flapping in my face all the time?

I would like to keep playing, but am sick of seeing winged twilights constantly. They are huge, annoying, always flapping in your face everywhere you go. It really makes cities look like garbage and places you don't want to be. I can't be the only one that feels this way.

Hear, hear! My very first class was Sorcerer, and my very first addon was Pet Dismiss because even my Scamp annoyed me (I could never bring myself to use the awful Twilight.) Needless to say, I no longer play the class.

What I can't fathom is why do folk keep them permanently active? All I know is my FPS tanks whenever I'm crafting or banking; my Third World internet struggles at the best of times, and this Daedric menagerie produces constant lag.

As has been pointed out, years of frustrated complaints by players have fallen on deaf ears (both of ZOS and the inconsiderate pet owners), and so I've resorted to Bosmer-style stress relief... mudballs!

P.S. lol Many thanks to the kind stranger who clocked my rambling as "Insightful"! I'd never have considered my waffle to be so! Much obliged!

CrashTest

It needs to be the size of a butterfly or torchbug.

Faulgor

If nothing else, Spellcrafting would be great to replace the terror chicken with reasonably sized pets, like wolf familiars, flame atronachs or Dremora.

It's not my first choice, but over the last 8 years they have shown an unwillingness to change skill visuals when players ask for it, instead implenting changes nobody asked for (e.g. poop rock and jabs).

Snamyap

Faulgor wrote: »

If nothing else, Spellcrafting would be great to replace the terror chicken with reasonably sized pets, like wolf familiars, flame atronachs or Dremora.

It's not my first choice, but over the last 8 years they have shown an unwillingness to change skill visuals when players ask for it, instead implenting changes nobody asked for (e.g. poop rock and jabs).

IIRC they did change something on "popular" demand once only to be faced with a lot of backlash from a ton of people who liked it just the way it was and since then the rule is to not tinker with old content. /shrug It's hard pleasing everyone, though I can't imagine a lot of people would mourn the loss of the twilight.

Faulgor

Snamyap wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

If nothing else, Spellcrafting would be great to replace the terror chicken with reasonably sized pets, like wolf familiars, flame atronachs or Dremora.

It's not my first choice, but over the last 8 years they have shown an unwillingness to change skill visuals when players ask for it, instead implenting changes nobody asked for (e.g. poop rock and jabs).

IIRC they did change something on "popular" demand once only to be faced with a lot of backlash from a ton of people who liked it just the way it was and since then the rule is to not tinker with old content. /shrug It's hard pleasing everyone, though I can't imagine a lot of people would mourn the loss of the twilight.

You're talking about the updated Orc and Redguard base game styles, I think.

It's not a terrible policy in principle, at least as far as character customization is concerned. But at least we could have had more pet options, like the white warden bear. That shouldn't upset anyone who wants to keep using the Twilight.

TheImperfect

I would deeply love the ability to hide them, they are distracting and annoying.

noblecron

I'd love some fire and ice abilities on the sorc line. I hate pets. Ever since they buffed pets that's all what everyone runs now. I can't find a non pet build for the life of me and it pisses me off.

What's funny is on the little description for role names when you select skills, they say for mag sorc it's harness the power of fire, ice and lightning. Where's our fire and ice line ZOS lolol

SilverBride

My Sorcerer doesn't use any pets and I don't miss them. I just can't stand things in my way all the time. That's why I only use my Companions in situations like soloing dungeons and World Bosses, too.

BlueRaven

fizzylu wrote: »

BlueRaven wrote: »

I have been playing this game since beta, I play a pet-less class as a main. How is it that I have never been bothered by other peoples pets?

Patience? Maybe your brain doesn't get bothered by their oversized repetitive movements? Everyone is different and have little quirks/tweaks that can bother them. I mean, seriously haha my own pets even bother me; more than others even since they're always right there, bigger than my character, flapping about obnoxiously....

I dunno.

They don’t bother me at all. Crafting stations, wayshrines… I have just never had a problem.

There are things that players do that DO bother me, but player pets would not crack the top five.

SpiritKitten

I have actually walked away from the game a couple of times because I get so frustrated with other ppl's matriarch blocking my camera view. At the wayshrine, at the bank, at the crafting area, at the merchants, at the guild vendors, at the door of my house, at any door, at the world boss, inside dungeons, inside delves, inside public dungeons, at trials, inside cities, inside towns, while just exploring!!!!!! Enough!!!

I have to constantly move from where I was standing because ppl park their matriarch right on top of me!

I honestly think at this point in the game's life, the fact that this monstrosity has not been changed just shows that the devs do not play their own game and they do not care about our quality of life. It's obvious.

BlueRaven

SpiritKitten wrote: »

I have actually walked away from the game a couple of times because I get so frustrated with other ppl's matriarch blocking my camera view. At the wayshrine, at the bank, at the crafting area, at the merchants, at the guild vendors, at the door of my house, at any door, at the world boss, inside dungeons, inside delves, inside public dungeons, at trials, inside cities, inside towns, while just exploring!!!!!! Enough!!!

I honestly think at this point in the game's life, the fact that this monstrosity has not been changed just shows that the devs do not play their own game and they do not care about our quality of life. It's obvious.

I don’t understand. Do you just want to stay and look at a wayshrine? Just click on it chose a location and go. Once the map comes up, the matriarch does not matter.

Same thing at crafting stations etc.

To me this is so much of a non issue.

And tbh I like seeing them in the world, it makes everything seem fuller with more movement.

Maybe it’s not the matriarch, maybe it’s the crowds? Just do your writs in a smaller town?
I sometimes do mine in malabol tor. It’s quiet if you need a respite.