Floating Text/Chat Bubble addon?

Lexi

Without chat bubbles I will miss 80% of the things people say to me in game. I agree 100%.

reagen_lionel

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DanMan3395 wrote: »

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And now suddenly the world is alive, immersive, and interactive. Without it, it's just three mutes standing there like bumps on a log.

As well, if we're actually looking at the character avatar who is speaking, we'll see any emotes they throw in there, too. Currently we don't see anyone doing emotes because we're too busy scrolling up the darn chat box figuring out who's saying what to whom, and now it's gone.

Yes I precisely agree with you. /feedback everyone

EthanHillx

I would definitely use an add-on like this. Whenever there is one at least

murklor007neb18_ESO

Aside from submitting /feedback tickets, is there anything else we can do? Hopefully someone on the ESO dev team has at least seen this thread and noted the overwhelming demand for chat bubbles...and on multiple other forums as well. I definitely agree that without them, ESO will lose a lot of players.

Last time someone asked if ZOS would support the RP community and look at things like chat bubbles for more immersion, their reply was something in the line of "hell yeah we gonna support roleplayers and give you... COSTUMES! Are we great or what?"

Needless to say, all hope died that day.

pwillard

I support this kind of add on.

Aurilis_Sungaze

I support this request, too. As long as there are no Bubbles I don't even think about RP, even though I would love to do so.

vicster0

Definitely riding this boat all the way to the feedback train! I think it's arguable that an overwhelming amount of the community would enjoy and likely utilize an option for chat bubbles. And with it as an option, those who do not want it can simple leave it disabled.

Ygrod

Yes please!

TriEdg3

i would use that addon so need

FoleyX90

Don't want to sh*t on everybody's parade here but the current Addon API doesn't allow for 3-dimensional UI controls. What does this mean? This means we can create labels... and we can position labels top-to-bottom, left-to-right but we have no way to position them front-to-back, unallowing us to be able to properly position Labels (or any other UI control for that matter) above anyone's head. Sorry, I tried
Here's to hoping ZOS adds this feature natively!

Mortannia

So what she should be asking for is 3-dimensional UI controls so we can do chat bubbles as add-ons ourselves if we want it. PLEASE 3-dimensional UI controls!!!

Thank you

cursedfishy

after trying out a lil in lua i came to the end result that i cant get sth like that to work for several reasons maybe some1 can help me tho:

first i tried to get events of chat box but then the other issue would be how
do i determine the distance of that person etc. but yea the ultimate fail would have been....hoooow to draw ui controls in 3d since i can just locally ._.

ps: im a noob in lua i never rlly did anything in lua. im used to cpp and c# but lua seems easy to learn and i always wanted to get used to it so i figured i can try make some mods ._.

Dancing_Shoes

Please, truly hope someone from ZOS is paying attention to this thread. I was happy to see it in the "Best of" list. I am guessing this would be a simple thing to put in as an optional setting, and I hope it is something that gets implemented post launch much like the FoV slider. I know they have a lot on their plate right now getting ready for launch, so I don't expect to see anything addressed on this prelaunch.

Skiy41

yes please give us chat bubbles or at least the option, they are very badly needed

nalimoleb14_ESO

Agreed, I can't even roleplay in game at the moment without the chat bubbles. Hopefully Zenimax will hear us out and add the option soon. Usually when an MMORPG is missing a key feature I usually shrug it off, but Elder Scrolls Online would benefit so much from such a simple chat bubble feature. It's literally the only piece missing from an otherwise perfect setting for roleplaying.

murklor007neb18_ESO

FoleyX90 wrote: »

Don't want to sh*t on everybody's parade here but the current Addon API doesn't allow for 3-dimensional UI controls. What does this mean? This means we can create labels... and we can position labels top-to-bottom, left-to-right but we have no way to position them front-to-back, unallowing us to be able to properly position Labels (or any other UI control for that matter) above anyone's head. Sorry, I tried
Here's to hoping ZOS adds this feature natively!

Not to rain on your design skills, but chat bubbles in games arent generally in 3D - they are 2D and part of the UI system, they're just more dynamic.

They have X/Y coordinates, size depending on content, background, text, etc. There is no Z coordinate. It has to read it based on where the player is in order to properly fade when the player is moving beyond the chat bubble view distance, but its still positioned within the 2D interface depending on where the player is on the flat rendering plane. Actually scaling text with distance (ie a 3D chat bubble) is pretty bad as it will result in horrible text shimmering at range. You dont want that.

You can simulate distance on the 2D plane as well, by using something as "..." in the chat bubble (resulting in a very small chat bubble above a distant character) when its above "I hear what they say" distance but still within "I hear someone talking way over there" distance. As you move closer to a "..." chat bubble, it would become a regular chat bubble with the text. HOWEVER that would be rather pointless, as you can easily come to an acceptable compromise on the range at which view bubbles appear and ignore the "talking noise over there" bubble aspect.

The parade is still parading :P

But of course I realize just as much as the next guy that this type of UI is too complicated to do in an addon. It need to be hardcoded into the game and only ZOS can do that. But for some reason they are obviously showing extreme reluctance. I mean they could add it and default to off - it would change absolutely nothing to current ESO. But nope. Probably as complicated to implement as a tick button for GW2 commanders to only show their badge to the guild. 2 years or something and counting...

Ainilome

While I certainly would like chat bubbles and understand the community outcry for them, with the current phasing system we're never going to be able to find each other to RP with anyway. The OOC community guild is a temporary and imperfect fix, without the ability to find each other in game either planned or randomly chat bubbles or other quality of life improvements aren't going to mean a darn thing.

So while I'd love to see chat bubbles, I'd also love to see the roleplay community make as much noise about the impact of the megaserver with no filters on the health of the community as it has for chat bubbles. We can't enjoy chat bubbles if we can't find our comparatively small community in the sea of players

Harva

This is awesome, we need to keep this up!

Is there a place or some way we can make this much larger of a movement? I know a lot of Elder Scrolls forums and role play websites are also discussing this in masses. We all need to come together and do the /Feedback, more posts in the forums, heck maybe even take it as far as creating a petition like silly protesters do around the web.

If Zenimax sees enough of us making a huge deal about it, maturely, then the logical thing would be to give the masses what they want. Since in the long run it's only hurting them by loosing a bunch of customers.

I wont be paying a subscription fee until a more role play friendly chat option is added or if I read it in the news if it doesn't happen during the free 30 days. Personally, after I get to the ideal build I want and learn what I can of the accessible areas and lore I wont want to pay month to month to be bored and not get my moneys worth.

Maybe that's a path we need to take as well, voting with our money.

LukeFRAGWARS

Actually we should send some type of petition to Zeni to put floating text/bubble text into game since it should be part of the game since day 1.

Ps. I don't think that we can make "text bubble" mod anyway ;/

reagen_lionel

Harva wrote: »

This is awesome, we need to keep this up!

Is there a place or some way we can make this much larger of a movement? I know a lot of Elder Scrolls forums and role play websites are also discussing this in masses. We all need to come together and do the /Feedback, more posts in the forums, heck maybe even take it as far as creating a petition like silly protesters do around the web.

If Zenimax sees enough of us making a huge deal about it, maturely, then the logical thing would be to give the masses what they want. Since in the long run it's only hurting them by loosing a bunch of customers.

I wont be paying a subscription fee until a more role play friendly chat option is added or if I read it in the news if it doesn't happen during the free 30 days. Personally, after I get to the ideal build I want and learn what I can of the accessible areas and lore I wont want to pay month to month to be bored and not get my moneys worth.

Maybe that's a path we need to take as well, voting with our money.

Yeah this is pretty much my take as well. I've sent rigorous feedback on this issue already, even in beta.

And with no real filters on the mega server to be matched with people you want (which they should had did the survey like they said they were going to do) and added chat bubbles for good rp experience. I dont know how long I'd continue to play when my sub runs out.

With the way things is now, you may as well just Rp in a chat room. Because you are forced to spend most of your time in Rp drudging through chats for the specific people you're Rping with, missing most emotes people are using anyway.

I am in favor of a petition.

Endalaure

I did skip some of the responses. But if indeed chat bubbles will not be added back or an option that you can toggle between, or /em motions when /say-ing something. You can, in your chat window, edit and add different chat windows to filter what comes through.
If you are RPing with a person/people around you, you can create a new window and edit it so that you only see /say dialogue.
When you're exploring you can create or change to the chat window that allows whatever "chat" dialogue you want.
Whenever grouped, I have a "Group" window that allows /say, /group and /guild. And because you can also choose up to 5 guilds, you can differentiate those are will with /guild1, etc.
And for the randomness of /zone chatter, I have a separate window for that, so I don't see the spam of the already present gold-seller spam.

Harva

I just don't see myself paying a sub to look at a chat box. Every successful mmorpg has chat bubbles or something that appears above a players head when they speak.

Guild Wars 2 didn't have chat bubbles originally when they launched but enough players got upset and voiced their opinions on it to where Anet seriously took them into consideration and made a patch that added bubbles.

So if other mmos have had success in getting the dev teams to make bubbles, nothing is stopping us from making this happen in ESO.

I wish they saw just how many people they are upsetting by making this choice.

A perfect example of raising cain is going on right now actually, regarding the down times. If a bunch of players are throwing a fit over something as silly as the game being down for maintenance it needs and Devs giving in by telling us we get an extended early access grace period, anything can be accomplished.

We just need to keep it up. Keep being loud, but polite if course. Keep making threads and spreading the awareness and something is bound to happen.

I saw in the best off screen that a Dev responded to a post regarding the chat box being a design flaw in the customer support thread. Maybe some of us should make a post to the customer service thread since this is very clearly a customer service related issue, given the simple fact that we are upset and genuinely not pleased with the choice of chat box.

Oh and in the ask us anything on reddit the Devs did mention they will reevaluate what players want after launch. So we can't loose hope.

murklor007neb18_ESO

risabattle wrote: »

If you are RPing with a person/people around you, you can create a new window and edit it so that you only see /say dialogue

Imagine Game of Thrones... But they arent allowed to talk to each other face to face. All conversations in the series take place via texting each other on mobiles and we get a screendump on the left side of the TV showing their conversations line by line.

No offense, but this workaround remain kind of unimmersive

There really are no substitutes for chat bubbles.

Endalaure

murklor007neb18_ESO wrote: »

Imagine Game of Thrones... But they arent allowed to talk to each other face to face. All conversations in the series take place via texting each other on mobiles and we get a screendump on the left side of the TV showing their conversations line by line.

No offense, but this workaround remain kind of unimmersive

There really are no substitutes for chat bubbles.

No, I get it. Believe me. I would prefer chat bubbles/boxes over the player who is speaking and I am not a RPer.

But until such a time that this is rectified... compromise. It's not ideal, but we can't always get what we want, when we want it.

Harva wrote: »

I just don't see myself paying a sub to look at a chat box. Every successful mmorpg has chat bubbles or something that appears above a players head when they speak.

Guild Wars 2 didn't have chat bubbles originally when they launched but enough players got upset and voiced their opinions on it to where Anet seriously took them into consideration and made a patch that added bubbles.

So if other mmos have had success in getting the dev teams to make bubbles, nothing is stopping us from making this happen in ESO.

I wish they saw just how many people they are upsetting by making this choice.

A perfect example of raising cain is going on right now actually, regarding the down times. If a bunch of players are throwing a fit over something as silly as the game being down for maintenance it needs and Devs giving in by telling us we get an extended early access grace period, anything can be accomplished.

We just need to keep it up. Keep being loud, but polite if course. Keep making threads and spreading the awareness and something is bound to happen.

I saw in the best off screen that a Dev responded to a post regarding the chat box being a design flaw in the customer support thread. Maybe some of us should make a post to the customer service thread since this is very clearly a customer service related issue, given the simple fact that we are upset and genuinely not pleased with the choice of chat box.

Oh and in the ask us anything on reddit the Devs did mention they will reevaluate what players want after launch. So we can't loose hope.

Best said.

Shayde

Chat bubbles and nameplates would be great. The social aspects of this game feel significantly slighted without them. Watching people attempt to kill you when you're disguised and standing with the enemy is slightly amusing though Although this has unfortunately led to a few comments about 'broken quests' from players.

mskmegalodon

I was disappointed to see no options for nameplates or chat bubbles. All we want are options Zenimax (or at least an API that will support an add-on that can take care of those). I'm going to /feedback this in game asap and I encourage you all to do the same!

reagen_lionel

mskmegalodon wrote: »

I was disappointed to see no options for nameplates or chat bubbles. All we want are options Zenimax (or at least an API that will support an add-on that can take care of those). I'm going to /feedback this in game asap and I encourage you all to do the same!

Been trying to encourage everyone that commented to do the same. I've been doing so since 3+ beta's ago.

Harva

I am going to make a petition and share the link here and on other Elder Scrolls Role playing communities. I'll use a lot of good points that have been made on here via other players and do a bit more research into other instances of this happening with MMO's to further back it, then we can send it off to the appropriate people at ZOS.

This way we can get a better idea of the numbers that agree and hopefully make this a dream come true.

Bear with me on this, I've never done a petition before which proves just how passionate I am about the matter.

I too have been giving them feedback for chat bubbles for the past four betas prior to early access. I wonder how much feedback from the same person on the same topic borders on spam.

reagen_lionel

Excellent I look forward to this petition. I guarantee I'll be one of the firsts.

nalimoleb14_ESO

I'll definitely be signing this petition too! I'm also willing to help out in any other way. I agree, this is the most passionate I've been about implementing a change in an MMO. Bugs? Eh, they'll get fixed. Lag? Eh, probably just my connection. ESO without chat bubbles? That just can't be.