Monster Trophy Achievements. 1000 Kills PER DAY until FIXED...

Oreyn_Bearclaw

paulsimonps wrote: »

In case someone hasn't mentioned it, it used to be WAY worse. Back when we still had Veteran Ranks any zone that was not lvl 50 or higher would drop NOTHING. So if a mob spawned often in your starting zone, well forget about getting it after you maxed out your level. For example Netches, Nix Hounds and Kaguiti are common in EP but then as a max leveled EP character you would have to farm DSA for all 3 of them. There was one spot in coldharbor for the netches but there were not a lot of them and spawn timer sucked. But I did eventually get them all. It was hell though.

LOL, Paul. You would be the one to get them all way back then. Haha

zaria

heaven13 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

With the AWA I got all but 5 items. Managed to kill scorpions in Reaper March for one of them and is now down to:
Brass anklets, knotted heart,crypt jar and buzzing spine.
Last one is from Wamasu who is the huge 4 legged lizards in Shadowfern.
Probably an hard one as they are not very common and spaced well out.

There’s a quest in Shadowfen that has 5-ish wamasu all in a little unmarked cave. You can enter the cave even without the quest active, iirc, and they respawn pretty quickly. This is where I got the buzzing spine for mine.

Who quest is it or where on map

heaven13

zaria wrote: »

heaven13 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

With the AWA I got all but 5 items. Managed to kill scorpions in Reaper March for one of them and is now down to:
Brass anklets, knotted heart,crypt jar and buzzing spine.
Last one is from Wamasu who is the huge 4 legged lizards in Shadowfern.
Probably an hard one as they are not very common and spaced well out.

There’s a quest in Shadowfen that has 5-ish wamasu all in a little unmarked cave. You can enter the cave even without the quest active, iirc, and they respawn pretty quickly. This is where I got the buzzing spine for mine.

Who quest is it or where on map

For anyone else wondering, it is Mushroom Cave in Shadowfen. https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Mushroom_Cave

zaria

heaven13 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

heaven13 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

With the AWA I got all but 5 items. Managed to kill scorpions in Reaper March for one of them and is now down to:
Brass anklets, knotted heart,crypt jar and buzzing spine.
Last one is from Wamasu who is the huge 4 legged lizards in Shadowfern.
Probably an hard one as they are not very common and spaced well out.

There’s a quest in Shadowfen that has 5-ish wamasu all in a little unmarked cave. You can enter the cave even without the quest active, iirc, and they respawn pretty quickly. This is where I got the buzzing spine for mine.

Who quest is it or where on map

For anyone else wondering, it is Mushroom Cave in Shadowfen. https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Mushroom_Cave

Thanks a lot, been killing them south of Black Mire (the Argonians in Grathwood.) but this sounds more efficient.

Necrotech_Master

i used shadowfen for wamasu (i tried craglorn because there is an area that spawns a lot of them but had no luck)

i was in the overland for wamasu in an area that was relatively close to 2-3 spawns (i was being super lazy with this, and being on a tank build that has stuff like leeching plate i just taunted the enemy and let my armor and mirri kill the enemies lol)

zaria

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

i used shadowfen for wamasu (i tried craglorn because there is an area that spawns a lot of them but had no luck)

i was in the overland for wamasu in an area that was relatively close to 2-3 spawns (i was being super lazy with this, and being on a tank build that has stuff like leeching plate i just taunted the enemy and let my armor and mirri kill the enemies lol)

At Black Mire its 4 pretty close but you can only group two, no reason to mount up, this one has to wait a bit for respanning if doing nothing else. Having youtube on second monitor is important

Necrotech_Master

zaria wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

i used shadowfen for wamasu (i tried craglorn because there is an area that spawns a lot of them but had no luck)

i was in the overland for wamasu in an area that was relatively close to 2-3 spawns (i was being super lazy with this, and being on a tank build that has stuff like leeching plate i just taunted the enemy and let my armor and mirri kill the enemies lol)

At Black Mire its 4 pretty close but you can only group two, no reason to mount up, this one has to wait a bit for respanning if doing nothing else. Having youtube on second monitor is important

i have 2 full desktops on my desk, so i just passively farmed monster trophies while actively playing something else lol

DarcyMardin

I don’t consciously collect these things, but when I got a trophy from a wamasu in Shadowfen last night, I thought fondly of this thread. Although I *hope* it doesn’t inspire me to start collecting trophies, because it sounds like a nasty grind! Best of luck, ye collectors!

Necrotech_Master

DarcyMardin wrote: »

I don’t consciously collect these things, but when I got a trophy from a wamasu in Shadowfen last night, I thought fondly of this thread. Although I *hope* it doesn’t inspire me to start collecting trophies, because it sounds like a nasty grind! Best of luck, ye collectors!

the drop rates being as low as they are for these make the experience very subject to RNG lol

some of them, like the OP, you could kill 1000s without the drop, sometimes you could farm for an hour an get the drop

fishing is also pretty subject to the RNG and can be bad depending on how the water types are (zones with only 1 type of fishing hole tend to be the worst)

dolmens in cyro are now pretty RNG dependent since only 1 can be active at a time and there are 10 dolmens in the zone

virtus753

When I decided to grind these to finish the achievements, I did only overland, no instanced content. I found that in general, a single trophy could take around 4 armor cycles' worth of grinding to get (2 in double XP situations). I have an autorepair add-on that prints to chat, so I'd watch it for when it would repair the same piece of gear again.

It took a long time to get them all, and I'm glad I won't ever feel the need to do it again. It wasn't enjoyable per se, and while I do appreciate the fact that my character achievements are now complete on my main, these "achievements" in particular only serve to remind me that I spent the time just to get it done. They don't give any sense of actual accomplishment for me, since grinding those overland mobs didn't require any thought or skill, and in that they fail as achievements. They're more like indicators that RNG came through finally.

Some trophies dropped sooner than others, and finding a good spot was sometimes an interesting challenge. Some spots (but certainly not all) were infested with bots, although I don't think they're grinding for trophies (even at the 250 gold they are now) or the achievements. They probably want the mats and XP primarily, and the most efficient way to grind the same type of mobs in overland will be the same regardless of whether you're after mats and XP or trophies and grind achievements. It is a shame that bots are often a hindrance for those willing to put the time in to go for these achievements, though.

Ishtarknows

We get it, the drop rate is low, but it's not zero.

And it hasn't stopped people finishing the achievement, I've done it on 2 characters and I know many friends who have completed it also.

KalevaLaine

Yes, that is terrible... I played 5 Years on PS and then switched to PC 2 years ago. Never finished this crap. ^^

alberichtano

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I think my character is blessed because I farmed these all out in about a month, only farming a couple hours per day. I do think the monster trophy stuff needs to be updated in some way whether it be better droprates or more incentives or both.

I think something cool would be is turning them into placeable house furnishings that you can buy at a vendor after getting the achievement.



I also collect these 2 for fun

Totally OT, but - "Oblivion" translates to "lands of the forgotten" in germen? That is poetic!

Arunei

rbfrgsp wrote: »

Total respect for the dedication and rigorous testing / research going into this. But I think that, ultimately, you are not intended to grind for these things. If they hid very very good dyes behind these rewards, then you absolutely would have a lot of players grinding out these kills, farming generic overland mobs. The fact they are pretty ordinary suggests they want you to get these things passively.

To me, I like the idea of getting a weird, unexpected achievement and dye 5 years into the game that you had no idea you were even working towards getting.

Except the Dyes are listed as 'common'. It should not take years to get something indicated as such. If they were a Rare Dye then sure, but the game itself implies these should be easy to obtain and thus so should the requirements to get them. That's not the case. Like I've said I've been playing since closed beta and launch, and even tho AwA got me closer to being done, I'm still missing 10 Trophies. In nearly 8 years of playing there are still 10 things I haven't been able to get to drop. That shouldn't be the case for things tied to a reward the game itself claims is 'common'. If you aren't meant to farm then they shouldn't have such ridiculously low drop rates.

Shawn_PT wrote: »

I have them all in 4 different characters.

Was missing 5 I think for my 5th characters. But you know what? Now they are all already unlocked. There's literally zero point for me in farming these ever again. One less source of entertainment for me after this patch. But I digress.

There's a trick to getting these. Seems to me that you're just farming them wrong...

And how does someone farm 'wrong'? As long as people are farming the right mob for the associated drop there isn't any right or wrong way to farm. It's not like fishing, where you have outside factors that will give you better luck or anything. There is no trick, aside from instances seeming to have a better chance of dropping Trophies, but not every mob has an instance where it spawns.

So please, genuinely, tell me what we're doing wrong.

zaria

Arunei wrote: »

rbfrgsp wrote: »

Total respect for the dedication and rigorous testing / research going into this. But I think that, ultimately, you are not intended to grind for these things. If they hid very very good dyes behind these rewards, then you absolutely would have a lot of players grinding out these kills, farming generic overland mobs. The fact they are pretty ordinary suggests they want you to get these things passively.

To me, I like the idea of getting a weird, unexpected achievement and dye 5 years into the game that you had no idea you were even working towards getting.

Except the Dyes are listed as 'common'. It should not take years to get something indicated as such. If they were a Rare Dye then sure, but the game itself implies these should be easy to obtain and thus so should the requirements to get them. That's not the case. Like I've said I've been playing since closed beta and launch, and even tho AwA got me closer to being done, I'm still missing 10 Trophies. In nearly 8 years of playing there are still 10 things I haven't been able to get to drop. That shouldn't be the case for things tied to a reward the game itself claims is 'common'. If you aren't meant to farm then they shouldn't have such ridiculously low drop rates.

Shawn_PT wrote: »

I have them all in 4 different characters.

Was missing 5 I think for my 5th characters. But you know what? Now they are all already unlocked. There's literally zero point for me in farming these ever again. One less source of entertainment for me after this patch. But I digress.

There's a trick to getting these. Seems to me that you're just farming them wrong...

And how does someone farm 'wrong'? As long as people are farming the right mob for the associated drop there isn't any right or wrong way to farm. It's not like fishing, where you have outside factors that will give you better luck or anything. There is no trick, aside from instances seeming to have a better chance of dropping Trophies, but not every mob has an instance where it spawns.

So please, genuinely, tell me what we're doing wrong.

Agree, now common also has some PvP achievements as killing 100 of various classes who is pretty grindy as I assume you need killing blow. I got emperor killer who I did not have on my main PvP character.

And yes it does not seems to be many wrong ways to do this.
Looking at The https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Nature_Collector Elden Root has an 20% on drop on brass anklet from Nereid's, however Elden root is an city. First I assumed it was the Elden Hollow dungeon, but it contains no Nereid.
Now I will try to look at the edges of Elden hollow but I assume this is simply biased data.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

zaria wrote: »

Agree, now common also has some PvP achievements as killing 100 of various classes who is pretty grindy as I assume you need killing blow.

You don't.

zaria

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Agree, now common also has some PvP achievements as killing 100 of various classes who is pretty grindy as I assume you need killing blow.

You don't.

Ok, but they took a long time to fill out and done plenty of PvP and they was locked for years. But pretty sure I had all the colors before AWA.

paulsimonps

zaria wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Agree, now common also has some PvP achievements as killing 100 of various classes who is pretty grindy as I assume you need killing blow.

You don't.

Ok, but they took a long time to fill out and done plenty of PvP and they was locked for years. But pretty sure I had all the colors before AWA.

It used to be killing blow, but a few updates ago it got changed to where you didn't need the killing blow, I believe you need to deal a certain amount of damage to them though, equivalent to an assist in battlegrounds, and not just "tag" them.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

paulsimonps wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Agree, now common also has some PvP achievements as killing 100 of various classes who is pretty grindy as I assume you need killing blow.

You don't.

Ok, but they took a long time to fill out and done plenty of PvP and they was locked for years. But pretty sure I had all the colors before AWA.

It used to be killing blow, but a few updates ago it got changed to where you didn't need the killing blow, I believe you need to deal a certain amount of damage to them though, equivalent to an assist in battlegrounds, and not just "tag" them.

Yup. Something like that. Did BGs daily on an alt to get the daily box, and when they had hit lvl 50 they were almost done with those achievments. Compared to my old main who still didn't have all because I rarely do BG's on my main.

Dalsinthus

I’m down to just the crypt jar to go. 3-4 hours or grinding and no luck so far.

FlopsyPrince

tmbrinks wrote: »

Can confirm they all drop.

Yes, they are a grind. I still have some nightmares about wamasu.

Instanced content has significantly higher drop rates.

It is also quite possible the drop rates are lower now since you got all those quite a while ago. I don't know for sure of course, I have just seen those things be announced as changing over the past few years.

Rezdayn

Arunei wrote: »

rbfrgsp wrote: »

Total respect for the dedication and rigorous testing / research going into this. But I think that, ultimately, you are not intended to grind for these things. If they hid very very good dyes behind these rewards, then you absolutely would have a lot of players grinding out these kills, farming generic overland mobs. The fact they are pretty ordinary suggests they want you to get these things passively.

To me, I like the idea of getting a weird, unexpected achievement and dye 5 years into the game that you had no idea you were even working towards getting.

Except the Dyes are listed as 'common'. It should not take years to get something indicated as such. If they were a Rare Dye then sure, but the game itself implies these should be easy to obtain and thus so should the requirements to get them. That's not the case. Like I've said I've been playing since closed beta and launch, and even tho AwA got me closer to being done, I'm still missing 10 Trophies. In nearly 8 years of playing there are still 10 things I haven't been able to get to drop. That shouldn't be the case for things tied to a reward the game itself claims is 'common'. If you aren't meant to farm then they shouldn't have such ridiculously low drop rates.

Shawn_PT wrote: »

I have them all in 4 different characters.

Was missing 5 I think for my 5th characters. But you know what? Now they are all already unlocked. There's literally zero point for me in farming these ever again. One less source of entertainment for me after this patch. But I digress.

There's a trick to getting these. Seems to me that you're just farming them wrong...

And how does someone farm 'wrong'? As long as people are farming the right mob for the associated drop there isn't any right or wrong way to farm. It's not like fishing, where you have outside factors that will give you better luck or anything. There is no trick, aside from instances seeming to have a better chance of dropping Trophies, but not every mob has an instance where it spawns.

So please, genuinely, tell me what we're doing wrong.

Yea I ignored that guy. Telling people they are farming wrong is absurd. I have played since beta. I hard finished the game almost. In terms of getting achievements and finishing every zone, dungeon, arena etc. I have pretty much nothing left to achieve minus trifecta trials. Not only should I have obtained all of them passively I have tried to farm them.

Then this person comes along and just goes "U faRMiNg wROng". Okay buddy.

Necrotech_Master

Rezdayn wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

rbfrgsp wrote: »

Total respect for the dedication and rigorous testing / research going into this. But I think that, ultimately, you are not intended to grind for these things. If they hid very very good dyes behind these rewards, then you absolutely would have a lot of players grinding out these kills, farming generic overland mobs. The fact they are pretty ordinary suggests they want you to get these things passively.

To me, I like the idea of getting a weird, unexpected achievement and dye 5 years into the game that you had no idea you were even working towards getting.

Except the Dyes are listed as 'common'. It should not take years to get something indicated as such. If they were a Rare Dye then sure, but the game itself implies these should be easy to obtain and thus so should the requirements to get them. That's not the case. Like I've said I've been playing since closed beta and launch, and even tho AwA got me closer to being done, I'm still missing 10 Trophies. In nearly 8 years of playing there are still 10 things I haven't been able to get to drop. That shouldn't be the case for things tied to a reward the game itself claims is 'common'. If you aren't meant to farm then they shouldn't have such ridiculously low drop rates.

Shawn_PT wrote: »

I have them all in 4 different characters.

Was missing 5 I think for my 5th characters. But you know what? Now they are all already unlocked. There's literally zero point for me in farming these ever again. One less source of entertainment for me after this patch. But I digress.

There's a trick to getting these. Seems to me that you're just farming them wrong...

And how does someone farm 'wrong'? As long as people are farming the right mob for the associated drop there isn't any right or wrong way to farm. It's not like fishing, where you have outside factors that will give you better luck or anything. There is no trick, aside from instances seeming to have a better chance of dropping Trophies, but not every mob has an instance where it spawns.

So please, genuinely, tell me what we're doing wrong.

Yea I ignored that guy. Telling people they are farming wrong is absurd. I have played since beta. I hard finished the game almost. In terms of getting achievements and finishing every zone, dungeon, arena etc. I have pretty much nothing left to achieve minus trifecta trials. Not only should I have obtained all of them passively I have tried to farm them.

Then this person comes along and just goes "U faRMiNg wROng". Okay buddy.

i think that is the "least helpful" way to suggest that another area might have a slightly better drop chance

granted all of that is RNG so unless there was some mystical spawn in 1 location that guarenteed the drop, a difference of 5% drop rate and 10% drop rate is hardly noticeable especially to someone with poor RNG experience (and most of these trophy drops are in the 1-5% drop chance range for the vast majority of them outside of certain areas)

(i have RL friends that almost refuse to play any game that even has RNG components in it because of how unlucky they are lol, and when they do, they complain all the time about me playing the same game and having like 3x better gear because of just lucky drops lol)

qwjr8989_ESO

I worked on these for AGES. Finnaly finished em up earlier this year. The mummy one was the worst. 3-4 months of work and over 10 thousand mummies killed before I got it. I honestly believed it was bugged and I was not going to get it before I got it.

thenappinghamster

Shawn_PT wrote: »

I have them all in 4 different characters.
...
There's a trick to getting these. Seems to me that you're just farming them wrong...

PLEASE SHARE TRICK 😄

Billium813

Monster trophy drops rates are like McDonald Monopoly drop rates: 4/5 needed for an achievement are super common and appear constantly. But that 1/5 you need... 10000 kills later and still nothing. I think they purposefully make the drop rates on some astronomical

joergino

I agree because that's what most of my trophy collection looks like - 1 missing or in one case 2 missing. But I really don't understand that purpose at all.

CompM4s

Wow 😂