Monster Trophy Achievements. 1000 Kills PER DAY until FIXED...

Rezdayn

Monster trophy achievements are essentially broken. The drop rate might as well be zero. This thread is going to prove it DAILY. I will be killing 1000 of the same monster EVERY DAY to prove it...

What are monster trophy achievements?



What do they give you?
They give you "common" dyes.



What is the problem?
1) The trophies have a near 0% drop rate.
2) They are apparently a "common" dye yet are almost impossible to obtain.
3) They are almost impossible to obtain and the dye reward is a very ugly "common" dye color.
4) They are either "common" with a low quality dye color and the drop rate has been broken since beta OR extremely rare and should be classed as a "ultimate rare" and should have far better dye color (possibly the best dye colors you can obtain out of any dye in the game due to how rare they are).

Its actually even worse than it appears. Let me explain.



Each achievement takes more than one trophy to drop. As you can see above. This one takes 12 trophies to drop before you unlock that single "common" dye. I believe you need 51 individual trophies to get all the "common" trophy dyes.

Who are you and why does your opinion mean anything to anyone?
I have played since beta. I have done almost everything in the game. The only things I have not completed are some trial trifecta achievements. Everything else I have done on one single character over the last 8 years. In that time I have collected every single dye in the game minus the trophy hunter achievement dyes (above are my dyes). I have even obtained the dreaded alliance rank 50 dye. I have completed all four person trifectas and the majority of the trial hard modes including vCR3 etc. I have done a lot. HOWEVER, SOMEHOW, I still dont have these common dye achievements finished.

Maybe you have not farmed them, maybe you are looking in the wrong area?
Oh I have farmed them. I have farmed them so much that I have now given up on farming them. I have no plan to finish them all because I believe they are virtually impossible to obtain without going insane and wasting a lot of my real life time doing so.

So what's with the 1000 kills per day than?
I plan to do this last trophy. I plan to use it to demonstrate to everyone on the forums and the ZOS staff how poorly implemented these trophies are once and for all... I will not put myself through the self inflicted torture of doing any MORE of these damn things after I get this last one. After playing this game for 8 years I can say "you win ZOS... I give up.". I dont care enough about getting all the dyes anymore. You have broke me and my goal to achieve all the dyes in your game is not worth it.

So what now?
Now I kill 1000 of the same monster EVERY DAY (missing as few days as I can) until I get the monster trophy. Killing thousands of these monsters wont even get me the dye. It will only get one of the eight trophies needed for that particular dye. I will update everyone with a photo of my total kills after each session. Instead of playing the game for fun reasons, instead of working on other fun goals I will destroy my play time to prove a point to the ZOS staff who clearly dont want to listen to their players who have complained about this for years.

I have already killed 4-5 thousands of the same monsters over and over and over in the last few years when trying to do these achievements... giving up and telling myself I wont do it again... however going back and doing it again... and now I am finally, really, done. This is the last time. To keep things fair I started from 0 and kept count of my kills today. So come on this journey through hell with me... 1000 kills per day of the same monster.

ZOS what will it take for you to notice these "common" dyes are broken. How many kills?

This is NOT a quitting thread.[snip]

[edited for baiting]

Rezdayn

1003 kills - DAY ONE

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Not saying you are wrong, but problems 1-4 are all essentially the same thing. Low drop rate, common dye. We get it.

Best of luck, keep the receipts and post your results.

Arthtur

I dont know if i should call u a hero or call for help...

honglatongla

Let me know when you get to wamasus and jackals, still need stuff from those...

Rezdayn

Arthtur wrote: »

I dont know if i should call u a hero or call for help...

Defiantly the second thing.

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Not saying you are wrong, but problems 1-4 are all essentially the same thing. Low drop rate, common dye. We get it.

Best of luck, keep the receipts and post your results.

Totally agree. They are only doubled up to demonstrate how nonsensical the dyes are. I probably should of worded it better. I was trying to demonstrate that they should be common and low quality or extremely high quality and represent what their real drop rate is.

honglatongla wrote: »

Let me know when you get to wamasus and jackals, still need stuff from those...

Hi, sorry I will be stopping after this last trophy. Its not the jackals or wamasus one. I cant do anymore. I am only farming this last trophy to prove a point to the developers who have ignored us for 8 years.

tmbrinks

Can confirm they all drop.

Yes, they are a grind. I still have some nightmares about wamasu.

Instanced content has significantly higher drop rates.

Rezdayn

tmbrinks wrote: »

Can confirm they all drop.

Yes, they are a grind. I still have some nightmares about wamasu.

Instanced content has significantly higher drop rates.

You have the mental fortitude of a god.

I have heard instanced content is better. I think its important for people to hear that. Thanks.

tmbrinks

Rezdayn wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Can confirm they all drop.

Yes, they are a grind. I still have some nightmares about wamasu.

Instanced content has significantly higher drop rates.

You have the mental fortitude of a god.

I have heard instanced content is better. I think its important for people to hear that. Thanks.

Insanity... I think they call it insanity

jaws343

I finished this out mid last year, right before Blackwood released. Took about 2 months, maybe 30 total hours spent farming during that 2 month period, to farm out the half or so I didn't earn through normal gameplay.

It's honestly not that bad, and it really only feels worse for the ones that are difficult to get during normal gameplay due to enemy scarcity.

Like Frost/Storm atros. I spent 5 hours of that 30 hours farming for those in the rift spot. But the limited spawns make it take longer to do to hit a decent amount of enemies. In comparison to the mass farming of something like skeletons or zombies.

So imo, it isn't that they are impossible to drop, just that the volume of enemies for some of hte trophy's are smaller, so it feels like you have to farm more enemies and spend more time to get the trophy drops. And time wise, likely you are spending more, to farm the same number of enemies. But they all certainly do drop, and are still dropping now.

Some of the most annoying things right now are getting those trophy drops on some of the longer farmed enemies I had to do a year ago. I've already landed a few of the attro ones since then just doing the daily endeavors that asked for attros.

Rezdayn

tmbrinks wrote: »

Rezdayn wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Can confirm they all drop.

Yes, they are a grind. I still have some nightmares about wamasu.

Instanced content has significantly higher drop rates.

You have the mental fortitude of a god.

I have heard instanced content is better. I think its important for people to hear that. Thanks.

Insanity... I think they call it insanity

Do you have a list of all instanced farm locations for these?

Necrotech_Master

i recently finished up the last 2 achievements for this i was missing within the past year (i actually finished a majority of them prior to 2017)

in the really early days of the game, these achievement drops were actually a tradeable consumable you just had to use, so it provided 2 things:

1. make it easier to consolidate everything on 1 character (this issue will be resolved through account wide achievements with the current untradeable drops)
2. buy missing items you needed from the market (this is no longer possible since they are no longer tradeable)

the worst one for me was probably the cats claw from tigers, that one took me almost 3 days worth of farming (and i made about 70 ivory from doing that too)

i think there is technically a drop rate difference depending on the area you go, like the netches in bal foyen have almost double the drop rate of the trophy than other areas with netches (i think drop rate in bal foyen is approx 5% from what ive seen tested, and other areas are 2-3%)

another example of that is the multifaceted eye from nix hounds, these drop VERY commonly in the DSA, but much rarer in the overland

i used these resources to help me find suggested locations:

• alcast list
• UESP

Rezdayn

Yea I dunno.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Chitin_Accumulator

This is saying the shalk in stonefall have a 1% drop rate. I killed over 1000 today alone. Maybe 2000 yesterday.

3000 kills with a 1% drop rate and no drop? Dunno about that.

tmbrinks

Rezdayn wrote: »

Yea I dunno.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Chitin_Accumulator

This is saying the shalk in stonefall have a 1% drop rate. I killed over 1000 today alone. Maybe 2000 yesterday.

3000 kills with a 1% drop rate and no drop? Dunno about that.

The UESP drop rates are nowhere close to accurate.

Necrotech_Master

tmbrinks wrote: »

Rezdayn wrote: »

Yea I dunno.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Chitin_Accumulator

This is saying the shalk in stonefall have a 1% drop rate. I killed over 1000 today alone. Maybe 2000 yesterday.

3000 kills with a 1% drop rate and no drop? Dunno about that.

The UESP drop rates are nowhere close to accurate.

i figured those were probably out of date and/or anecdotal, but it was still useful in listing out the particular locations that have the enemies with the drop

monster trophies do take a lot of praising RNGesus lol

DigiAngel

Thanks for this. This validates my view that doing something that's ONLY for cosmetics in the game is a huge waste of time.

Rezdayn

DigiAngel wrote: »

Thanks for this. This validates my view that doing something that's ONLY for cosmetics in the game is a huge waste of time.

Sadly in this case you are correct.
They made the drop rate so poor and the quality of the dye so bad that it could be called a waste of time.

Arunei

You might want to wait until AwA comes on the 14th. The progress for these is going to be combined from all your characters into one pool, so any Trophy that drops for any character will count for the whole. Either wait, or make sure you're not going for a Trophy one of your other characters has obtained (if you have more than one).

These being combined so all your characters contribute will help to an extent, but it doesn't change the overall fact that these things are RIDICULOUSLY rare for being tied to achieves that give ""Common"" Dyes. I've also been playing since closed beta and only have the Dwemer one complete.

Mik195

I've been playing for years and not one flesh atronach trophy has dropped and I kill everything. But some things serm to drop constantly. I had 2 eyes from something drop yesterday. I'm thinking that RBG has gone on sabbatical.

Rezdayn

Arunei wrote: »

You might want to wait until AwA comes on the 14th. The progress for these is going to be combined from all your characters into one pool, so any Trophy that drops for any character will count for the whole. Either wait, or make sure you're not going for a Trophy one of your other characters has obtained (if you have more than one).

These being combined so all your characters contribute will help to an extent, but it doesn't change the overall fact that these things are RIDICULOUSLY rare for being tied to achieves that give ""Common"" Dyes. I've also been playing since closed beta and only have the Dwemer one complete.

I have played since beta on one character. Still not even close to done rip.

Mik195 wrote: »

I've been playing for years and not one flesh atronach trophy has dropped and I kill everything. But some things serm to drop constantly. I had 2 eyes from something drop yesterday. I'm thinking that RBG has gone on sabbatical.

Yep. Enough skulls to finish 51/51. I did a few thousand kills of flesh atro years back. They are one of the first ones I farmed and never got. Thus part of why I am finished. Can't do this *** anymore lol...

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Rezdayn wrote: »

3) They are almost impossible to obtain and the dye reward is a very ugly "common" dye color.

I agree that the low drop rate is absolutely terrible, even more so when the reward is for something that is labeled "common.

But don't go calling my common dyes ugly! Common and uncommon dyes are some of the dyes I use the most.

Rezdayn

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Rezdayn wrote: »

3) They are almost impossible to obtain and the dye reward is a very ugly "common" dye color.

I agree that the low drop rate is absolutely terrible, even more so when the reward is for something that is labeled "common.

But don't go calling my common dyes ugly! Common and uncommon dyes are some of the dyes I use the most.

Haha fair play. You right.

Necrotech_Master

the best location i found for flesh atros was the southern area of malabal tor (near the POI abamath), there are a couple spots you can easily pull 3 flesh atros at a time together and kill (this one was the hardest of the 4 atro ones for me to get, but this is the area i got it from)

other ones ive had difficulty with was the one from wraiths (i got this one from the group boss in crows wood since he has 4 spawns of 3 wraiths + the boss himself and respawn is fairly fast)

and the crypt jar (i got this one from public dungeon in alikr, although i tried craglorn, but i never had luck there)

James-Wayne

I've been trying for this achievement for 7 years.... like most grinds in ESO just give up and go outside.

Sylvermynx

Thankfully, I don't give a rat's patoot about stuff like this. For those who do care though - wow. What a soul destroying grind....

Arunei

Yeah, it's honestly a crock of a word I'm not allowed to say. These achievements can be harder to earn than things like Emperor or Master Angler. At least for Master Angler there are ways to ensure you get better catches and stuff, with Emperor it might take time and effort but if you really want it and have the drive you can get it. For the Monster Trophies, there's no way to increase the drop rate, there's no asking friends and guildmates to help because they're bound. It's just straight up horrible RNG on things that must have a drop rate akin to Aetherial Ciphers or something. These shouldn't be attached to "Common" Dyes, with how hard and time-consuming they are to get.

Dojohoda

I don't know whether to hope a trophy drops for you or hope it doesn't since you are out to show the trophy drop is broken.

I need one more trophy to be done, the one from a gargoyle. I don't run across gargoyles anymore in the game and I have to seek them out. I usually visit Qharroa Ruins in southern Bangkorai. According to uesp I should probably visit The Shadow Cleft in Clockwork City.

Good Luck on your trophy hunting!

joerginger

I've been trying for weeks to get the drop from a Frost Atronach. I don't think I will bother with this anymore ever again. In more than three years, not a single trophy collection was completed in "normal play". Not a single one.

So - why should I bother at all?

Rezdayn

Thanks for all the replies everyone. Hopefully the developers keep seeing this thread....

Rezdayn

UPDATE

Currently the spawns you can farm for the trophy are 100% taken up by bots. Some of the bots are low level and might be farming the beetle scuttle. However some are CP800+. What that tells me is people are botting to get the trophies.

Congrats ZOS. You made a common dye achievement so rare and tedious that people need to bot for it to save themselves from going insane.

Coatmagic

Just gonna say here:
playing since launch -18 chars
Consolidation on PTS still did not finish these