New Chapter hints / datamine?

Muttsmutt

...maormer?

...maormer.

NerfSeige

Narvuntien wrote: »

I think it is Cesper and Herne.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Cespar
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Herne

From cespar: “ Sometime in the mid-Second Era, the former noblewoman, Lady Benwyne Thronebane was exiled to the island of Cespar and lived there since at least 2E 582.”

Lady Benwyne Thronebane: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Demands_of_the_Painted_Eye

MENTIONED IN BLACKWOOD! I think you got it man!

Seraphayel

NerfSeige wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I think it is Cesper and Herne.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Cespar
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Herne

From cespar: “ Sometime in the mid-Second Era, the former noblewoman, Lady Benwyne Thronebane was exiled to the island of Cespar and lived there since at least 2E 582.”

Lady Benwyne Thronebane: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Demands_of_the_Painted_Eye

MENTIONED IN BLACKWOOD! I think you got it man!

Very intriguing.

Both islands could be called "High Isles" or whatever. But this is a very curious find.

SantieClaws

Seraphayel wrote: »

NerfSeige wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I think it is Cesper and Herne.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Cespar
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Herne

From cespar: “ Sometime in the mid-Second Era, the former noblewoman, Lady Benwyne Thronebane was exiled to the island of Cespar and lived there since at least 2E 582.”

Lady Benwyne Thronebane: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Demands_of_the_Painted_Eye

MENTIONED IN BLACKWOOD! I think you got it man!

Very intriguing.

Both islands could be called "High Isles" or whatever. But this is a very curious find.

Intriguing and curious as it does not really point to Bretons no? More towards Redguards.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

StarOfElyon

Saxhleel wrote: »

Just saying, there are two more islands/areas in High Rock that no one mentioned. Caecilly and the Dellese Isles. The former was cast into the void, so I feel the latter would be more likely. The Dellese Isles were randomly name dropped in Morrowind I'm pretty sure, so ESO wouldn't be creating an entirely new region.

EDIT: Caecilly was cast into the void in the Third Era, so Caecilly might be the zone we visit. There is also a map of the region, thanks to Battlespire, also known as the game no one plays.

Going to plug this guy who is still playing Battlespire: https://youtu.be/5qBWrpkYONM

Seraphayel

SantieClaws wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

NerfSeige wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I think it is Cesper and Herne.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Cespar
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Herne

From cespar: “ Sometime in the mid-Second Era, the former noblewoman, Lady Benwyne Thronebane was exiled to the island of Cespar and lived there since at least 2E 582.”

Lady Benwyne Thronebane: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Demands_of_the_Painted_Eye

MENTIONED IN BLACKWOOD! I think you got it man!

Very intriguing.

Both islands could be called "High Isles" or whatever. But this is a very curious find.

Intriguing and curious as it does not really point to Bretons no? More towards Redguards.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Redguards are just tanned Bretons, change my mind.

Ye_Olde_Crowe

StarOfElyon wrote: »

Going to plug this guy who is still playing Battlespire: https://youtu.be/5qBWrpkYONM

Oh, I loved Battlespire! And its soundtrack.

Elsonso

Seraphayel wrote: »

xgoku1 wrote: »

silvereyes wrote: »

Saxhleel wrote: »

Just saying, there are two more islands/areas in High Rock that no one mentioned. Caecilly and the Dellese Isles. The former was cast into the void, so I feel the latter would be more likely. The Dellese Isles were randomly name dropped in Morrowind I'm pretty sure, so ESO wouldn't be creating an entirely new region.

EDIT: Caecilly was cast into the void in the Third Era, so Caecilly might be the zone we visit. There is also a map of the region, thanks to Battlespire, also known as the game no one plays.

Interesting. That's definitely the closest map I've seen resembling the mountainous island inlet in the trailer. The scale seems a bit small for an entire chapter, though.

The codename for the 2022 Zone is SYS/HI, so could be 2 islands maybe? Caecilly and Dellese

Uhm.. HI = High Isle.

The only problem with that is that people have been guessing that since almost Day 1 when SYS/HI was datamined, and Lambert insists that no one has guessed it, as far as he knows. It's been out there too long for him to be unaware of a correct guess. Someone would have come to him and said "they guessed it already".

Of course... he could be lying, but he has other answers he can give to avoid doing that, and does.

EDIT: Herne Island (HI) makes some amount of sense. If it is true, then this year might be a Redguard year, despite visual breadcrumbs that people are interpreting as a Breton year.

The3sFinest

Muttsmutt wrote: »

...maormer?

...maormer.

It was already discussed this is much closer to the features of Breton armor, it probably is Ancestral variant. They have scales on some current heavy armor, they also show snake-like design.

xgoku1

Elsonso wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

xgoku1 wrote: »

silvereyes wrote: »

Saxhleel wrote: »

Just saying, there are two more islands/areas in High Rock that no one mentioned. Caecilly and the Dellese Isles. The former was cast into the void, so I feel the latter would be more likely. The Dellese Isles were randomly name dropped in Morrowind I'm pretty sure, so ESO wouldn't be creating an entirely new region.

EDIT: Caecilly was cast into the void in the Third Era, so Caecilly might be the zone we visit. There is also a map of the region, thanks to Battlespire, also known as the game no one plays.

Interesting. That's definitely the closest map I've seen resembling the mountainous island inlet in the trailer. The scale seems a bit small for an entire chapter, though.

The codename for the 2022 Zone is SYS/HI, so could be 2 islands maybe? Caecilly and Dellese

Uhm.. HI = High Isle.

The only problem with that is that people have been guessing that since almost Day 1 when SYS/HI was datamined, and Lambert insists that no one has guessed it, as far as he knows. It's been out there too long for him to be unaware of a correct guess. Someone would have come to him and said "they guessed it already".

Of course... he could be lying, but he has other answers he can give to avoid doing that, and does.

EDIT: Herne Island (HI) makes some amount of sense. If it is true, then this year might be a Redguard year, despite visual breadcrumbs that people are interpreting as a Breton year.

I wouldn't care too much about what Lambert says, when streaming you're talking on a stream of consciousness level mostly.

Caspar/Herne certainly fits the map shown in the teaser (i.e. travelling south-west off the mainland coast).

Herne Islands fits the HI, but there's still the SYS. Another thing is that the island shown in the teaser looks more like the geography of Summerset rather than sandy Hammerfell desert.

Could be Systres and Caspar/Herne? The geography clue is Dune, maybe the SYS island is more sandy? These islands are pretty small too, so two islands = one big zone maybe?

Seraphayel

Elsonso wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

xgoku1 wrote: »

silvereyes wrote: »

Saxhleel wrote: »

Just saying, there are two more islands/areas in High Rock that no one mentioned. Caecilly and the Dellese Isles. The former was cast into the void, so I feel the latter would be more likely. The Dellese Isles were randomly name dropped in Morrowind I'm pretty sure, so ESO wouldn't be creating an entirely new region.

EDIT: Caecilly was cast into the void in the Third Era, so Caecilly might be the zone we visit. There is also a map of the region, thanks to Battlespire, also known as the game no one plays.

Interesting. That's definitely the closest map I've seen resembling the mountainous island inlet in the trailer. The scale seems a bit small for an entire chapter, though.

The codename for the 2022 Zone is SYS/HI, so could be 2 islands maybe? Caecilly and Dellese

Uhm.. HI = High Isle.

The only problem with that is that people have been guessing that since almost Day 1 when SYS/HI was datamined, and Lambert insists that no one has guessed it, as far as he knows. It's been out there too long for him to be unaware of a correct guess. Someone would have come to him and said "they guessed it already".

Of course... he could be lying, but he has other answers he can give to avoid doing that, and does.

EDIT: Herne Island (HI) makes some amount of sense. If it is true, then this year might be a Redguard year, despite visual breadcrumbs that people are interpreting as a Breton year.

If it's indeed Herne and Cespar, the High Isle guesses are technically wrong although being right. Did people already guess those two islands back then as well?

xgoku1

Also Caecilly looks very interesting because it technically won't be a retcon to add a big landmass there, since the older games' maps are from the 3rd Era when it was banished from Nirn.

Elsonso

Seraphayel wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

xgoku1 wrote: »

silvereyes wrote: »

Saxhleel wrote: »

Just saying, there are two more islands/areas in High Rock that no one mentioned. Caecilly and the Dellese Isles. The former was cast into the void, so I feel the latter would be more likely. The Dellese Isles were randomly name dropped in Morrowind I'm pretty sure, so ESO wouldn't be creating an entirely new region.

EDIT: Caecilly was cast into the void in the Third Era, so Caecilly might be the zone we visit. There is also a map of the region, thanks to Battlespire, also known as the game no one plays.

Interesting. That's definitely the closest map I've seen resembling the mountainous island inlet in the trailer. The scale seems a bit small for an entire chapter, though.

The codename for the 2022 Zone is SYS/HI, so could be 2 islands maybe? Caecilly and Dellese

Uhm.. HI = High Isle.

The only problem with that is that people have been guessing that since almost Day 1 when SYS/HI was datamined, and Lambert insists that no one has guessed it, as far as he knows. It's been out there too long for him to be unaware of a correct guess. Someone would have come to him and said "they guessed it already".

Of course... he could be lying, but he has other answers he can give to avoid doing that, and does.

EDIT: Herne Island (HI) makes some amount of sense. If it is true, then this year might be a Redguard year, despite visual breadcrumbs that people are interpreting as a Breton year.

If it's indeed Herne and Cespar, the High Isle guesses are technically wrong although being right. Did people already guess those two islands back then as well?

Yes. Well... Herne and Systres. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7418248/#Comment_7418248

nymlaelitharcub18_ESO

I'd think it'd be the Yokuda archipelago. We've never been to Akos Kasaz, it's much larger than the remaining High Rock islands, none of which have the scale to be a Chapter zone (especially if it is the entire archipelago and not just the largest island). There could be Breton presence there (or even just that one Breton might be causing faction intrigues), the Crowns are not really aligned with any of the Alliances and are known for political intrigue.

gepe87

Fans cry for Breton content.
Let’s create an island that no one ever heard of.

Seraphayel

Dune musn't be related to a desert though. There are dunes on coasts of England or France or Germany as well.

The3sFinest

Seraphayel wrote: »

Dune musn't be related to a desert though. There are dunes on coasts of England or France or Germany as well.

Summerset was "glacier" though.

Seraphayel

The3sFinest wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Dune musn't be related to a desert though. There are dunes on coasts of England or France or Germany as well.

Summerset was "glacier" though.

Yeah, that's true. Couldn't be the mountain in the mid of Summerset be counted as a glacier? It's pretty much an outlier. Every other nickname was quite fitting.

• Volcano - Morrowind (VRD)
• Glacier - Summerset (SUM)
• Mesa - Elsweyr (ELS)
• Scarp - Greymoor (SKR)
• Badlands - Blackwood (BAD)
• Dune - Update 34/Q2 2022 (SYS/HI)

Elsonso

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The3sFinest wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Dune musn't be related to a desert though. There are dunes on coasts of England or France or Germany as well.

Summerset was "glacier" though.

For all we know, Dune is a reference to a place that is highly sought after by different factions, with the faction who controls it reaping the rewards from that place.

RaddlemanNumber7

The Painted Eye look interesting. The prisoners they want freed have attacked several of the established regimes. This might be why the three alliances have sent a joint force against them.

I'm guessing the woman in the breton plate armour is Lady Thornebane. Perhaps she is "the painted eye". When we get to see her face she'll have one eye covered by a patch and one with some gruesome eye makeup.

I'm also guessing we're going to visit a whole series of those little islands, not just one or two of the larger ones. Maybe all the islands people have already mentioned.

WarriorNinja9

arent most of the islands mentioned technically part of hammerfell later on? could that be why they are labeled "Dune"

Faulgor

Elsonso wrote: »

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The3sFinest wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Dune musn't be related to a desert though. There are dunes on coasts of England or France or Germany as well.

Summerset was "glacier" though.

For all we know, Dune is a reference to a place that is highly sought after by different factions, with the faction who controls it reaping the rewards from that place.

DUNE is also all about political feuds between great houses. That alone makes it a perfect fit for Bretons.

SantieClaws

Perhaps Dune is not a reference though to an environmental feature?

Faulgor wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

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The3sFinest wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Dune musn't be related to a desert though. There are dunes on coasts of England or France or Germany as well.

Summerset was "glacier" though.

For all we know, Dune is a reference to a place that is highly sought after by different factions, with the faction who controls it reaping the rewards from that place.

DUNE is also all about political feuds between great houses. That alone makes it a perfect fit for Bretons.

This one wondered if it might be a reference to forbidden spices ...

Maybe that is just the wishful thinking of a khajiit though.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

etchedpixels

SantieClaws wrote: »

Perhaps Dune is not a reference though to an environmental feature?

or the developers are just having fun trolling us with the codename.

SantieClaws

etchedpixels wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

Perhaps Dune is not a reference though to an environmental feature?

or the developers are just having fun trolling us with the codename.

Very possibly. This one can almost hear them trying to supress the tears of laughter over all of this.

Tis all part of the fun though!

Also this one is going to guess at Stormbreak for the chapter - or for the the first DLC.

Though it is more often a colour and an environment recently - Greymoor, Blackwood, Murkmire etc this one is not sure that formula will work this time.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

adriant1978

etchedpixels wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

Perhaps Dune is not a reference though to an environmental feature?

or the developers are just having fun trolling us with the codename.

Or the codenames actually have no relation to the content at all, and it's just a combination of luck and reaching that makes them fit. I still can't think of any glacier in Summerset.

Seraphayel

adriant1978 wrote: »

etchedpixels wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

Perhaps Dune is not a reference though to an environmental feature?

or the developers are just having fun trolling us with the codename.

Or the codenames actually have no relation to the content at all, and it's just a combination of luck and reaching that makes them fit. I still can't think of any glacier in Summerset.

I mean all of them made sense besides the glacier one. So you can argue that this is another outlier, but right now it's more likely a dune or dunes will play a role in the environment.

SantieClaws

It could, of course, be more than one island with quite different environments on each one.

The 'dunes' might be on the one we have not seen yet.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

fizl101

Faulgor wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

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The3sFinest wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Dune musn't be related to a desert though. There are dunes on coasts of England or France or Germany as well.

Summerset was "glacier" though.

For all we know, Dune is a reference to a place that is highly sought after by different factions, with the faction who controls it reaping the rewards from that place.

DUNE is also all about political feuds between great houses. That alone makes it a perfect fit for Bretons.

Mr Lambert is a big fan of the books, so I think the political intrigue angle fits well for the codename

Ilsabet

The3sFinest wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Dune musn't be related to a desert though. There are dunes on coasts of England or France or Germany as well.

Summerset was "glacier" though.

Well those snobby Altmer do have quite the icy disposition.