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Free Deadlands DLC
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✭✭✭✭wtlonewolf20 wrote: »Melliott247 wrote: »If this was a marketing ploy then it has backfired IMO.
It has annoyed many of the players who pay for ESO+ AND have payed for the latest expansion (rather than waiting for the content to be added to ESO+ next year).
It would have made sense for ESO+ members to get some free crowns instead.
ESO Plus members get a ton of benefits just from subscribing. A no-Crown-cost something every month and discounts beyond that in the Crown Store. Crowns for each month subscribed. DLC while subscribed. It may be a false hope, but my expectation is that the bulk of the ESO Plus players don't even care.
My personal view is that anyone who is so outraged about this that they cancel their ESO Plus was not going to stick around for long, anyway. I mean, when people total everything up, and that adds up to a justification for ESO Plus, then it must be very close to the line if this tips the scales.
This is why I think that the bulk of ESO Plus subscribers don't care enough about this to make an issue over it. There can't be that many people sitting right on the fence.
Honestly, the only thing worth the sub are the combination of housing limits, bank space, crafting bags, and dlc access. The crown discounts are not frequent nor useful enough to matter all that much and the free collectable is a joke of a token.
HonestlyLady_Galadhiel wrote: »I miss the days where we killed dragons for charity to save kitties,now THAT was a great reward and something so many people where happy to participate and no one cared for the in game rewards we got at the end.
You know, I can honestly say that was one event where I didn't care about the rewards I personally received, because it was for a good cause.
But there isn't a good cause behind this one as it's an effort to increase blackwood sales to people that don't own it, yet. It only benefits ZOS and a portion of the community. So I DO care about the rewards the send to us this time round, and I personally find them lacking. It's OK though because I won't be spending my time on the event and I won't be buying more copies of Blackwood as a result, nor will I be gifting the dlc to some friends who don't sub, thus saving me some crown purchases. And the rest of yall will get my rewards from the event for me.
So there, I guess I found my reward that work for me, ZOS saved me several hundred dollars of purchases that I might have sent there way.
And you get the new dlc! But you should start hitting up those striking locales to make sure.
TherDisturbed_One wrote: »These are the same people who demand a partial refund or extension of their ESO+ time every time there's a free ESO+ week/weekend.
They're probably the same ones who call into customer service every time there was a free HBO trial on cable and they had the channel.
Some people just feel entitled to "all the things" and get bothered if somebody else gets something they feel they're entitled to. Even if this doesn't take away anything from them.
Guess what... we're still getting the pet, the attunables, and whatever other stuff they're giving away during the event.... and everybody ALSO gets the Deadlands DLC if we reach 100%. Some would have already had access to it through ESO+, but now everybody can enjoy the end of the story this year.
Your making assumptions here and generalized statements. Yes there are a few people that complain about eso+ and downtimes and promotions. But often those are people that don't read the terms they agree to with plus or even the game.
I have and I never have asked for an extension on eso+ on the forums due to server issues or performance issues. I also never indicated that I wasn't happy for others. I understand that everyone can't sub to this game. I do, but I also know that not everyone owns blackwood. This event is meant to push people to blackwood sales. We all know that. There is also nothing free in this event, since it's contigent on the purchase of or having purchased blackwood at some point, this is an effort incentivize those that were on the fence.
It is a benefit to those that can take advantage of it. I really can't, now if ZOS gave me a voucher for the dlc that I could send to a non blackwood user I could use that. I don't have a use for this. ALL I have expressed here is disappointment and a lack of incentive to participate. Thus providing feedback regarding my perspective. As I stated earlier all this really does is save me time and money. But it's not free stuff, because if it were then it would be gifted to ALL eso accounts, not just blackwood owners. If ZOS made that move, then my appreciation goes up for the effort because that would be something for free.
But this reward is contitgent on a purchase made previously or up to the promotions end. Which ironically means that much of the comments on this discussion are between two sets of purchasing groups with non blackwood owners being completely ignored by ZOS.
My feedback is my feedback. I have a right to provide it. But attacking me and making assumptions about what I believe or feel is uncalled for.13 -
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✭✭✭✭✭trackdemon5512 wrote: »There is an explicit discrimination. You only get the reward if you own Blackwood. If you don’t you get nothing. That fits the very definition of discrimination. One group of players is getting something that others will not.
Paying customers get more than non-customers. People participating in a contest get a chance at winning while others don't. What a revolting type of "discrimination", isn't it ... ?
I guess you should complain about your national lottery for only choosing as winners people who have bought a ticket.
Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on October 5, 2021 3:40PM3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Where are you getting all of this "hype"?
That's very true too. I wouldn't not describe the communication and advertisement about it as "hype", it wasn't that much. Those who were all "hyped" were the ones willing to be "hyped".
I remember a couple of years ago there was a "one million.... " whatever thing going on to celebrate whatever.
And there was a very much hyped lottery out of which one player actually won one million dollars.
Which was what actually happened.
That was real hype and noone ever complained that only one person got the prize, let alone call it "discrimination" !!!
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✭✭✭✭✭Sirona_Starr wrote: »How about a reward like, unlocking more character slots for free? or making some achievements account wide? or class change tokens for free, or, like the dragon event, contributing to a charity/non-profit like St. Judes? anything that potentially benefits the entire community who is supposed to work together to achieve a goal?
Good examples of what else it could have been , but I doubt any of those would have pleased the hyped majority.
Character slots ? Some people would correctly say it's just another trick to get us playing more and we have already more than enough of those (18!!!)
Tokens ? If have a couple of those lying around unused, no use for that.
Non profit ? I won't engage in such a debate here, but it's tricky to link a pure commercial/useless/fun activity to an essential, important one. And then, the choice of the charity also matters. I was happy to slay dragons for kittens but... also uncomfortable because, frankly, it's much more important to help humanbeings than kittens. (please don't start the debate, it's not the point : all I'm saying is that a charity is not something that makes everyone automatically engaged and feeling good).
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✭✭This wasn't a gift.
It was a fomo marketing tactic aimed right at the players who thought Blackwood looked mediocre and didn't want to spend money on the 180 minutes of 'meh' content it offered. I'm more surprised at how many long-time players here seem to be surprised by it at all, haven't we seen this kind of stuff enough in 7 years?
PS - Deadlands on the PTS is almost as interesting as Blackwood..
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✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »How about a reward like, unlocking more character slots for free? or making some achievements account wide? or class change tokens for free, or, like the dragon event, contributing to a charity/non-profit like St. Judes? anything that potentially benefits the entire community who is supposed to work together to achieve a goal?
Good examples of what else it could have been , but I doubt any of those would have pleased the hyped majority.
Character slots ? Some people would correctly say it's just another trick to get us playing more and we have already more than enough of those (18!!!)
Tokens ? If have a couple of those lying around unused, no use for that.
Non profit ? I won't engage in such a debate here, but it's tricky to link a pure commercial/useless/fun activity to an essential, important one. And then, the choice of the charity also matters. I was happy to slay dragons for kittens but... also uncomfortable because, frankly, it's much more important to help humanbeings than kittens. (please don't start the debate, it's not the point : all I'm saying is that a charity is not something that makes everyone automatically engaged and feeling good).
My personal choice would have been the armory assistant. I think that a lot more people would have jumped for that over the dlc.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭wtlonewolf20 wrote: »My personal choice would have been the armory assistant. I think that a lot more people would have jumped for that over the dlc.
Don't you get the armory assistant automatically with the Deadlands DLC ? I think it's included in the "free DLC" , then.
In case I'm wrong (I'm not into PTS stuff as much as I used to be) and the assistant is crown-store thing, then you may be right BUT that would only appeal (NOW) to people who've heard of it, who are into news and PTS stuff. That's a tiny minority.
I agree it would have been a good idea though - for us as well as for ZOS, marketing-wise.
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✭Ragged_Claw wrote: »There's an awful lot of 'strawman' arguments about ESO+ members going on in this thread, apparently we're 'entitled', 'angry', 'upset that someone's getting something for free', that we already get 'loads of free stuff but feel entitled to more'. I have not seen a single post saying that a person doesn't think the DLC should be given away, not one.
1) I am not entitled, I saw the advertising hype and was keen to see the prize. The prize was underwhelming for many of us.
2) I am more than happy that other people will get the DLC for free and am still participating in the event.
3) The DLC giveaway is a CHEAP prize, compare how many Crowns a DLC costs to a house/mount/polymorph, ZoS aren't exactly lavishing riches upon non ESO+ members.
4) IT IS NOT FREE you have to BUY Blackwood to get it, now if you were going to buy Blackwood anyway, great! And ofc, Blackwood is on sale, but you still HAVE to make a purchase to access the DLC.
5) If they hadn't hyped this up so much it likely wouldn't have been an issue (yeah some would complain, but then some always do).
6) I don't get any of the ESO+ perks for free, I PAY for those, so what do these comments mean that we want more 'free' stuff on top of the 'free' stuff we already get?
7) Megalithic corporations are not your friend, they don't do anything out of the kindess of their hearts, this was just a campaign to sell more copies of Blackwood, which is fine ofc they're a business, but the marketing and hype backfired imo.
They should've just given the damn DLC away to EVERYONE and not made it seem like some massive and wonderful benevolence on their part. The charity event was much more fun and engaging, it felt worthwhile, whether you liked the rewards or not, should've done that again imo.
Hey there,
Here's my example which could give some insight.
- I haven't been subbed since the beginning of summer (Wanted to relaunch a VCR group and we got the block bug)
- I don't own Blackwood (personal choice/relates to comments/reviews and recent pre-existing content)
Things I do understand:
- It will evidently bring more people to the next DLC/Chapter (Whatever you call it)
- It may bring so many people that the launch will be buggy (again)
- It has reinforced the producer/client relation with those who chose to buy Blackwood
I personally don't like the fact that's it's an ultimatum; Buy Blackwood now or pay the next one full price.
For me buying Blackwood feels like peer pressure, the only thing here is that well, the peer in this conversation is our producer.
Perhaps it makes sense for some, it certainly does for me. The sales gimmicks are getting old and don't reflect our gaming community or at least I hope they don't.
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✭Where are you getting all of this "hype"? The first time I heard any of this was an announcement in the launcher carousel that said something like "find out out how to get the Deadlands DLC free".
I mean I assume that the event was announced ahead of that, but they weren't exactly putting it on billboards and buses.
You didn't see the hype so it didn't happen? See my experience was different than yours, I was told to tune into the End of Year super-special Twitch Stream to find out about a SUPER SECRET PRIZE that they hadn't announced, also things were said in other streams along the lines of 'You won't guess what it is, if you want to find out watch the stream!' and 'You are not going to want to miss this, trust us!' etc. If we all knew ahead of time that it was just a giveway of the DLC, we wouldn't be feeling dissapointed now would we?PC EU & NA10 -
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✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
With all due respect, they told us to be hyped and built that hype, that's what marketing does. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it.PC EU & NA9 -
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »wtlonewolf20 wrote: »My personal choice would have been the armory assistant. I think that a lot more people would have jumped for that over the dlc.
Don't you get the armory assistant automatically with the Deadlands DLC ? I think it's included in the "free DLC" , then.
In case I'm wrong (I'm not into PTS stuff as much as I used to be) and the assistant is crown-store thing, then you may be right BUT that would only appeal (NOW) to people who've heard of it, who are into news and PTS stuff. That's a tiny minority.
I agree it would have been a good idea though - for us as well as for ZOS, marketing-wise.
The Armory is part of the base game update. The station will be free for all players in the crown store. The assistant will be for purchase in the crown store.
It is not dependent upon or included with access to the Deadlands DLC.Edited by virtus753 on October 5, 2021 5:28PM2 -
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^^^This
There is no way they won't move the bar to 100%. I am pretty sure it isn't even tracked in game, just something they manually move it forward a bit each day just like last time. Or maybe the "tracker" app is simply programmed to move ahead on it's own.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Where are you getting all of this "hype"?
That's very true too. I wouldn't not describe the communication and advertisement about it as "hype", it wasn't that much. Those who were all "hyped" were the ones willing to be "hyped".
I remember a couple of years ago there was a "one million.... " whatever thing going on to celebrate whatever.
And there was a very much hyped lottery out of which one player actually won one million dollars.
Which was what actually happened.
That was real hype and noone ever complained that only one person got the prize, let alone call it "discrimination" !!!
I recall, in that particular case, the complaint was more along the lines of "so Bethesda blew the whole ESO marketing budget on this one thing".
Probably not true, but it certainly felt that way at the time.
^^^This
There is no way they won't move the bar to 100%. I am pretty sure it isn't even tracked in game, just something they manually move it forward a bit each day just like last time. Or maybe the "tracker" app is simply programmed to move ahead on it's own.
I am pretty sure it is tracked. They have a bus load of analysts that apparently provide whatever statistic they need from the data generated by the live game. It is inconceivable that they are not tracking Blackwood Pathfinder.
Less sure that the bar moves in concert with that track.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Cendrillion21✭✭✭✭✭Everyone I play with is subbed and has been for years. This super-secret wonderful prize was a big letdown for me and quite a few other loyal players. If not for all the hype I would have just been happy for anyone who would otherwise be locked out.Campos de oro14 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Where are you getting all of this "hype"?
That's very true too. I wouldn't not describe the communication and advertisement about it as "hype", it wasn't that much. Those who were all "hyped" were the ones willing to be "hyped".
I remember a couple of years ago there was a "one million.... " whatever thing going on to celebrate whatever.
And there was a very much hyped lottery out of which one player actually won one million dollars.
Which was what actually happened.
That was real hype and noone ever complained that only one person got the prize, let alone call it "discrimination" !!!
I recall, in that particular case, the complaint was more along the lines of "so Bethesda blew the whole ESO marketing budget on this one thing". Probably not true, but it certainly felt that way at the time.
^^^This
There is no way they won't move the bar to 100%. I am pretty sure it isn't even tracked in game, just something they manually move it forward a bit each day just like last time. Or maybe the "tracker" app is simply programmed to move ahead on it's own.
I am pretty sure it is tracked. They have a bus load of analysts that apparently provide whatever statistic they need from the data generated by the live game. It is inconceivable that they are not tracking Blackwood Pathfinder.
Less sure that the bar moves in concert with that track.
I don’t think it is tracked. The only number eso boasts about is their increasing 19m “accounts created” number. There are plenty of other games that openly show the number of achievements unlocked by the community, kills during events, materials harvested, double kills achieved, and so on. Some of the other games send out weekly statements on kills and achievements, like cod. So either the numbers are not that impressive that they would want people to actually see what the distribution of achievements are during events and be able to deduce actual active players…. Or they don’t track it.
No company would get the results back from an event, be amazed at the great numbers and success of the event and not want to tell the world about it. Especially how they say the 19m accounts at the beginning of every stream, eso would guaranteed be flashing good stats from events all over the place if it had them.
They haven’t even fixed the duplicate “orcish chair, peaked” furnishing (purple and blue) …. And it has been 5 years, I wouldn’t count on the game having background stats.Edited by Blacknight841 on October 5, 2021 6:25PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »wtlonewolf20 wrote: »My personal choice would have been the armory assistant. I think that a lot more people would have jumped for that over the dlc.
Don't you get the armory assistant automatically with the Deadlands DLC ? I think it's included in the "free DLC" , then.
In case I'm wrong (I'm not into PTS stuff as much as I used to be) and the assistant is crown-store thing, then you may be right BUT that would only appeal (NOW) to people who've heard of it, who are into news and PTS stuff. That's a tiny minority.
I agree it would have been a good idea though - for us as well as for ZOS, marketing-wise.
The Armory is part of the base game update. The station will be free for all players in the crown store. The assistant will be for purchase in the crown store.
It is not dependent upon or included with access to the Deadlands DLC.
Oh OK, thanks for clarifying.
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✭Sirona_Starr wrote: »Kalik_Gold wrote: »I'm THANKFUL....
I do own every chapter, and paid for every DLC with Gold. Now I don't have to spend another 150k gold.
Sub is renting - Buying it is owning.
When the servers go dark and the game ends, renting or owning becomes irrelevant.
When I take a few weeks off during a month, half of my monthly payment is not wasted... Everquest, WoW and most major MMO's servers are still up. I probably will pass away (knock on wood) before ESO stops.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight (Damage)
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (One-Bar)
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)
Leveling...
Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist
Styx of Akatosh a Goblin* Arcanist
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
{time moves forward through the hour-glass}
Returning player - 2017-2022, back in 25'1 -
_adhyffbjjjf12✭✭✭✭✭Cendrillion21 wrote: »Everyone I play with is subbed and has been for years. This super-secret wonderful prize was a big letdown for me and quite a few other loyal players. If not for all the hype I would have just been happy for anyone who would otherwise be locked out.
sCaligamy_ESO wrote: »This wasn't a gift.
It was a fomo marketing tactic aimed right at the players who thought Blackwood looked mediocre and didn't want to spend money on the 180 minutes of 'meh' content it offered. I'm more surprised at how many long-time players here seem to be surprised by it at all, haven't we seen this kind of stuff enough in 7 years?
PS - Deadlands on the PTS is almost as interesting as Blackwood..
almost.
interesting, we all jsut got a hugeCendrillion21 wrote: »Everyone I play with is subbed and has been for years. This super-secret wonderful prize was a big letdown for me and quite a few other loyal players. If not for all the hype I would have just been happy for anyone who would otherwise be locked out.
I wonder if those complaining about bad rewards still feel letdown, I don't know about others but I thought the final reward was awesome.2 -
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✭✭✭✭Giving a 5 year ESO Plus subscriber a "free" dlc is a slap in the face, I'm really insulted by this.
I was disappointed with Blackwood so honestly getting the Q4 DLC (which is often the better Zone of the year) for free seems fair to me at this point.
Besides, you have to own Blackwood in order to get the free Deadlands DLC.
(Also, Yes I've been a regular subscriber when I play.)
I think the developers should review their content model, and if the players feel that they are getting their moneys worth from subscriptions, the chapters, and the overall year.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »Cendrillion21 wrote: »Everyone I play with is subbed and has been for years. This super-secret wonderful prize was a big letdown for me and quite a few other loyal players. If not for all the hype I would have just been happy for anyone who would otherwise be locked out.
I wonder if those complaining about bad rewards still feel letdown, I don't know about others but I thought the final reward was awesome.
I’m not unhappy and I like the pet and the Ogrim and I’ll find use for the crafting tables and other rewards. Personally, I did like the rewards from the past two years events more (probably past three, but alas, I only started playing in 2019!) as I really like the Grim Harvester costume and the dragon’s hoard furnishing as well as the unique target dummy and other furnishings I got in the cascading boxes and then last year’s house and the introduction of houseguests with a unique antiquarian-themed one was really cool. I think it’s cool to include the 4th quarter DLC in the reward but I think it was waaay overhyped given the Crown equivalency and past rewards and the fact that it’s redundant for many with ESO+. But I’m not fussed. I wanted to get Blackwood and participate anyway and would have watched the stream for the pony and crates anyway and reveals are fun and I dug the music video. 
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It's a nice gesture but I've been saying for years that chapters should be treated like season passes so this should be standard as a way to maintain community engagement with the game Guild Wars 2-style. The game is monetized enough without selling dungeons and zone DLCs on top of the chapters releasing annually._adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »I wonder if those complaining about bad rewards still feel letdown, I don't know about others but I thought the final reward was awesome.
Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 11 years. 8 paid expansions. 29 dungeon and zone DLCs. 45 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. Just because Cadwell Silver&Gold failed doesn't mean the game should be brain dead easy forever.
"ESO doesn't need a harder overland" on YouTube for a video of a naked level 3 character w/ no CP allocated AFKing in front of a bear for a minute and a half before dying if you don't believe me change is needed.0 -
zharkovian✭✭✭✭I'm just happy that a great game like ESO exists, and that we get free stuff, it might be useless free stuff to some, so ZoS are usually on a hiding to nothing whatever they do. I buy all the chapters and the DLC and I was going to buy Deadlands for me and my wife, but we got it free, and thanks for that!1
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Cillion3117✭✭✭✭✭zharkovian wrote: »I'm just happy that a great game like ESO exists, and that we get free stuff, it might be useless free stuff to some, so ZoS are usually on a hiding to nothing whatever they do. I buy all the chapters and the DLC and I was going to buy Deadlands for me and my wife, but we got it free, and thanks for that!
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✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Character slots ? Some people would correctly say it's just another trick to get us playing more and we have already more than enough of those (18!!!)
To allude to another thread - 18 is NOT enough.
[race options] x [class options] x [mag VS stam VS hybrid options] - clearly MORE than 18, and that doesn't count alt-o-holics like me.
As for the DLC being "amazing" or not, IF most of the ESO players are subscribing, THEN the reward is not really applicable to their game experience.
IF the majority of players don't sub THEN the reward is quite directly applicable.
Given the amount of info ZoS alludes to getting from their various metrics, the fact that this was offered, strongly implies that the majority of players do NOT subscribe.
Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis3 -
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Khaleesi8688✭✭✭✭At this point I am more irritated by the fact that those who are disappointed are constantly getting spoken down to and insulted by others in the community during the community event. Getting forgotten by ZoS is normal but having one portion of the community completely unable to empathize with another portion doesn't make me feel like the community event was a success. Just seems like zos' real surprise gift for the work together event was dividing the players.13
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✭I thought from the subject line that this was going to be a discussion about why the Deadlands DLC is not visible and showing as owned content.
I have no real proof...oh wait. I have that Ogrim thing. He's my DLC voucher I guess.Giraffon - Beta Lizard - For the Pact!1 -
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✭✭✭Khaleesi8688 wrote: »At this point I am more irritated by the fact that those who are disappointed are constantly getting spoken down to and insulted by others in the community during the community event. Getting forgotten by ZoS is normal but having one portion of the community completely unable to empathize with another portion doesn't make me feel like the community event was a success. Just seems like zos' real surprise gift for the work together event was dividing the players.
Yep, VERY MUCH agree with this. I'm a subscriber and thus someone who would find the reward underwhelming, and I barely noticed (as I said earlier, was just chuckling a little) but it started to upset me when I saw so many community members criticizing people who were just expressing a valid opinion. I mean, worst case if you disagree with a stance but it doesn't directly affect you, just shrug and move on but I definitely wish folks were better at understanding and advocating for viewpoints of others. It doesn't hurt to think about other perspectives and it doesn't hurt to be supportive of folks with those opinions.
But we are seeing folks actively denigrating anyone who dares to criticize the event, reward, and reveal when the concerns expressed wouldn't negatively impact ANYONE if they were addressed by ZoS.
We don't all have to agree, and we certainly can't all care about everything, but it costs nothing to be empathetic and supportive to others as opposed to responding with toxicity (and that includes toxic positivity [snip]
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✭✭✭✭✭Khaleesi8688 wrote: »At this point I am more irritated by the fact that those who are disappointed are constantly getting spoken down to and insulted by others in the community during the community event. Getting forgotten by ZoS is normal but having one portion of the community completely unable to empathize with another portion doesn't make me feel like the community event was a success. Just seems like zos' real surprise gift for the work together event was dividing the players.
Yeah, as an eso+ subscriber I think if the situation was reversed, say if the reward was an extra month of eso+ to current subscribers, I would be on here supporting a reward for non eso+ players.
The forums attitude towards eso+ players that feel like they have been disappointed by the deadlands reward was really disheartening.
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