So on the PS5 Version I have to do all Trophies again?

AuraStorm43

gwmayar wrote: »

There is no need to produce any conspiratorial theories, Microsoft does not care what ZOE does. This is a separate company with separate problems, they have a headache even without ZOE.

In this case, we are dealing with the usual shortsightedness and lack of insight on the part of the developer. It just so happened that a similar thing happened with Doom, but there is no relationship whatsoever.

Fair enough its just odd to me only Bethesda games have these problems

We know ZOS has a habit of overlooking things in the process of getting updates out the door, its more than likely just an oversight cuz Sony makes the process harder than it needs to be

mikey_reach

AuraStorm43 wrote: »

gwmayar wrote: »

There is no need to produce any conspiratorial theories, Microsoft does not care what ZOE does. This is a separate company with separate problems, they have a headache even without ZOE.

In this case, we are dealing with the usual shortsightedness and lack of insight on the part of the developer. It just so happened that a similar thing happened with Doom, but there is no relationship whatsoever.

Fair enough its just odd to me only Bethesda games have these problems

We know ZOS has a habit of overlooking things in the process of getting updates out the door, its more than likely just an oversight cuz Sony makes the process harder than it needs to be

Basically anything that is not a native ps5 game will have this problem when ported like avengers resident evil 5 and spider man. Its not the studios sony just didnt invest in backwards compat as much they have stated this themselves.

gwmayar

I have bad news for you

Warframe, Genshin, Final Fantasy and others - none of this games are native ps5 game.
All have PS4->PS5 trophy transfer day one. Stop making up all sorts of stories about compatibility problems.
If the developer wants he does it, if he doesn't want he doesn't.

It is the developer's job to find solutions to the problem and solve them.If they do not want to do it or they do not have the opportunity to do it, then they can just write about it.And I will fully understand them and I will not have any complaints against them.

But we have a unique case here, when nothing is said, complete silence, sometimes something slips on Twitter. But no specifics.Therefore, people are already starting to come up with some conspiracy theories, invent facts out of the blue.

All ZOE had to do was simply write, "We're dealing with this issue await for news" or "We sorry, we can't do that" And that's it.

P.S - There will be an update in Warframe this year there will be a crossplay between Xbox, PS4, PS5, Switch and Mobile phones. Well, let's also discuss why it's 2021 and TESO still doesn't have at least a crossplay between Xbox and PS4/PS5
This is a joke - please don't discuss it...

It's very simple if the developer wants to do something, he does it and looks for ways to bring it to life. If he doesn’t want or doesn’t have the opportunity to do it, then he doesn’t. It's that simple.

mikey_reach

gwmayar wrote: »

I have bad news for you

Warframe, Genshin, Final Fantasy and others - none of this games are native ps5 game.
All have PS4->PS5 trophy transfer day one. Stop making up all sorts of stories about compatibility problems.
If the developer wants he does it, if he doesn't want he doesn't.

It is the developer's job to find solutions to the problem and solve them.If they do not want to do it or they do not have the opportunity to do it, then they can just write about it.And I will fully understand them and I will not have any complaints against them.

But we have a unique case here, when nothing is said, complete silence, sometimes something slips on Twitter. But no specifics.Therefore, people are already starting to come up with some conspiracy theories, invent facts out of the blue.

All ZOE had to do was simply write, "We're dealing with this issue await for news" or "We sorry, we can't do that" And that's it.

P.S - There will be an update in Warframe this year there will be a crossplay between Xbox, PS4, PS5, Switch and Mobile phones. Well, let's also discuss why it's 2021 and TESO still doesn't have at least a crossplay between Xbox and PS4/PS5
This is a joke - please don't discuss it...

It's very simple if the developer wants to do something, he does it and looks for ways to bring it to life. If he doesn’t want or doesn’t have the opportunity to do it, then he doesn’t. It's that simple.

You are right some ps4 are exceptions like cyberpunk and fallen order for example that are coded to recognize new console hardware so who is to say that there arent other exceptions like certain developers or studios preparing for it. You are also right about its up to the developers to find the solutions, solutions like poor compatibility for example.

beer781993

@ZOS_SarahHecker So much time passed already.

Are you guys still thinking about it or trying anything? I wonder what in the future means.

lillybit

kmcaj wrote: »

If playing a video game is like work it's being played wrong! The trophies are easy to get by completing specific tasks! The fishing is mostly standing around then running to a new spot then standing around again and the other is having fun in Cyrodiil! Just by playing the game I'm getting all the brand new trophies! No need for trophy cheats. They can be earned in game by playing as intended!

I have played the game as intended. Many times over. So many times that there are 17 out of the 46 base game trophies that I can't ever get because I've already done the achievements that would unlock them on all 18 of my characters. That's a third of the possible trophies permanently locked out.

No, I will not delete a character that I've spent many hours playing and considerable real life money on. There are different classes I do different things with anyway, so I wouldn't just need to do it once but several times over.

That's not being unreasonable. No other business would expect you to trash something you've paid for just to increase performance. My phone company don't tell me I can't upgrade unless I stamp on the old one first.

I'm playing on the same platform, same server, same account, same characters. I've completed all the same achievements. Does it say anywhere in game whether I've earned an achievement on a PS4 or PS5? No it doesn't. They aren't "new trophies," they're the exact same ones we've already earned, and having earned them they can't be earned again.

PC and XBox aren't penalised for using better hardware so why should we be? It's like telling PC players they need to do separate achievements depending on if they happen to log in on a PC using an Intel or AMD CPU.

AuraStorm43

lillybit wrote: »

kmcaj wrote: »

If playing a video game is like work it's being played wrong! The trophies are easy to get by completing specific tasks! The fishing is mostly standing around then running to a new spot then standing around again and the other is having fun in Cyrodiil! Just by playing the game I'm getting all the brand new trophies! No need for trophy cheats. They can be earned in game by playing as intended!

I have played the game as intended. Many times over. So many times that there are 17 out of the 46 base game trophies that I can't ever get because I've already done the achievements that would unlock them on all 18 of my characters. That's a third of the possible trophies permanently locked out.

No, I will not delete a character that I've spent many hours playing and considerable real life money on. There are different classes I do different things with anyway, so I wouldn't just need to do it once but several times over.

That's not being unreasonable. No other business would expect you to trash something you've paid for just to increase performance. My phone company don't tell me I can't upgrade unless I stamp on the old one first.

I'm playing on the same platform, same server, same account, same characters. I've completed all the same achievements. Does it say anywhere in game whether I've earned an achievement on a PS4 or PS5? No it doesn't. They aren't "new trophies," they're the exact same ones we've already earned, and having earned them they can't be earned again.

PC and XBox aren't penalised for using better hardware so why should we be? It's like telling PC players they need to do separate achievements depending on if they happen to log in on a PC using an Intel or AMD CPU.

I’d honestly ignore him, he doesn’t wanna see our side at all, he thinks making a brand new account makes sense

mikey_reach wrote: »

gwmayar wrote: »

I have bad news for you

Warframe, Genshin, Final Fantasy and others - none of this games are native ps5 game.
All have PS4->PS5 trophy transfer day one. Stop making up all sorts of stories about compatibility problems.
If the developer wants he does it, if he doesn't want he doesn't.

It is the developer's job to find solutions to the problem and solve them.If they do not want to do it or they do not have the opportunity to do it, then they can just write about it.And I will fully understand them and I will not have any complaints against them.

But we have a unique case here, when nothing is said, complete silence, sometimes something slips on Twitter. But no specifics.Therefore, people are already starting to come up with some conspiracy theories, invent facts out of the blue.

All ZOE had to do was simply write, "We're dealing with this issue await for news" or "We sorry, we can't do that" And that's it.

P.S - There will be an update in Warframe this year there will be a crossplay between Xbox, PS4, PS5, Switch and Mobile phones. Well, let's also discuss why it's 2021 and TESO still doesn't have at least a crossplay between Xbox and PS4/PS5
This is a joke - please don't discuss it...

It's very simple if the developer wants to do something, he does it and looks for ways to bring it to life. If he doesn’t want or doesn’t have the opportunity to do it, then he doesn’t. It's that simple.

You are right some ps4 are exceptions like cyberpunk and fallen order for example that are coded to recognize new console hardware so who is to say that there arent other exceptions like certain developers or studios preparing for it. You are also right about its up to the developers to find the solutions, solutions like poor compatibility for example.

Lotta PS5 games have “half upgrades” they aren’t official upgrades but there’s higher framerate options, TLOU2 and Ghost of Tsushima, for example

kmcaj

lillybit wrote: »

kmcaj wrote: »

If playing a video game is like work it's being played wrong! The trophies are easy to get by completing specific tasks! The fishing is mostly standing around then running to a new spot then standing around again and the other is having fun in Cyrodiil! Just by playing the game I'm getting all the brand new trophies! No need for trophy cheats. They can be earned in game by playing as intended!

I have played the game as intended. Many times over. So many times that there are 17 out of the 46 base game trophies that I can't ever get because I've already done the achievements that would unlock them on all 18 of my characters. That's a third of the possible trophies permanently locked out.

No, I will not delete a character that I've spent many hours playing and considerable real life money on. There are different classes I do different things with anyway, so I wouldn't just need to do it once but several times over.

That's not being unreasonable. No other business would expect you to trash something you've paid for just to increase performance. My phone company don't tell me I can't upgrade unless I stamp on the old one first.

I'm playing on the same platform, same server, same account, same characters. I've completed all the same achievements. Does it say anywhere in game whether I've earned an achievement on a PS4 or PS5? No it doesn't. They aren't "new trophies," they're the exact same ones we've already earned, and having earned them they can't be earned again.

PC and XBox aren't penalised for using better hardware so why should we be? It's like telling PC players they need to do separate achievements depending on if they happen to log in on a PC using an Intel or AMD CPU.

Can't win the new PS5 ESO game trophies without playing the new PS5 ESO game. No free unearned trophies are awarded on the PS5 version. Choosing not to play with a new character is an option. It's just not an option that enables winning the new PS5 ESO trophies. Got to play to win - like it should be.

gwmayar

beer781993 wrote: »

@ZOS_SarahHecker So much time passed already.

Are you guys still thinking about it or trying anything? I wonder what in the future means.

I'm afraid no one will answer us, they chose the tactic of complete silence. At the moment, I'm not even sure if they have a position of community manager, if this position still exists, then I have a lot of questions for this person

"I’d honestly ignore him, he doesn’t wanna see our side at all, he thinks making a brand new account makes sense"

I think everyone has already understood everything and no one pays attention to him.

In fact, he does a very good job, he maintains this topic in the top without letting it go down, for which I am grateful to him. You don't have to run into the negative, always look for the positive. There is enough negativity in life without it.

The PS5 version has a lot of problems, in addition to problems with trophies, mediocre performance in some places, a lot of crashes. The game behaves extremely unstable and was clearly not ready for release. Now I already have fewer complaints about the fact that something does not work, and more to the fact that there is no communication with the players, as a result of which, there is no understanding of what is going on and what to expect next.

AuraStorm43

lillybit wrote: »

AuraStorm43 wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

kmcaj wrote: »

If playing a video game is like work it's being played wrong! The trophies are easy to get by completing specific tasks! The fishing is mostly standing around then running to a new spot then standing around again and the other is having fun in Cyrodiil! Just by playing the game I'm getting all the brand new trophies! No need for trophy cheats. They can be earned in game by playing as intended!

I have played the game as intended. Many times over. So many times that there are 17 out of the 46 base game trophies that I can't ever get because I've already done the achievements that would unlock them on all 18 of my characters. That's a third of the possible trophies permanently locked out.

No, I will not delete a character that I've spent many hours playing and considerable real life money on. There are different classes I do different things with anyway, so I wouldn't just need to do it once but several times over.

That's not being unreasonable. No other business would expect you to trash something you've paid for just to increase performance. My phone company don't tell me I can't upgrade unless I stamp on the old one first.

I'm playing on the same platform, same server, same account, same characters. I've completed all the same achievements. Does it say anywhere in game whether I've earned an achievement on a PS4 or PS5? No it doesn't. They aren't "new trophies," they're the exact same ones we've already earned, and having earned them they can't be earned again.

PC and XBox aren't penalised for using better hardware so why should we be? It's like telling PC players they need to do separate achievements depending on if they happen to log in on a PC using an Intel or AMD CPU.

I’d honestly ignore him, he doesn’t wanna see our side at all, he thinks making a brand new account makes sense

mikey_reach wrote: »

gwmayar wrote: »

I have bad news for you

Warframe, Genshin, Final Fantasy and others - none of this games are native ps5 game.
All have PS4->PS5 trophy transfer day one. Stop making up all sorts of stories about compatibility problems.
If the developer wants he does it, if he doesn't want he doesn't.

It is the developer's job to find solutions to the problem and solve them.If they do not want to do it or they do not have the opportunity to do it, then they can just write about it.And I will fully understand them and I will not have any complaints against them.

But we have a unique case here, when nothing is said, complete silence, sometimes something slips on Twitter. But no specifics.Therefore, people are already starting to come up with some conspiracy theories, invent facts out of the blue.

All ZOE had to do was simply write, "We're dealing with this issue await for news" or "We sorry, we can't do that" And that's it.

P.S - There will be an update in Warframe this year there will be a crossplay between Xbox, PS4, PS5, Switch and Mobile phones. Well, let's also discuss why it's 2021 and TESO still doesn't have at least a crossplay between Xbox and PS4/PS5
This is a joke - please don't discuss it...

It's very simple if the developer wants to do something, he does it and looks for ways to bring it to life. If he doesn’t want or doesn’t have the opportunity to do it, then he doesn’t. It's that simple.

You are right some ps4 are exceptions like cyberpunk and fallen order for example that are coded to recognize new console hardware so who is to say that there arent other exceptions like certain developers or studios preparing for it. You are also right about its up to the developers to find the solutions, solutions like poor compatibility for example.

Lotta PS5 games have “half upgrades” they aren’t official upgrades but there’s higher framerate options, TLOU2 and Ghost of Tsushima, for example

[snip]

Least he’s bumping the thread so thats something, I’m not creating a brand new character and giving ZOS more money to fix a problem that shouldn’t be there in the first place

I do appreciate the nicer framerates on PS5 but the amount of crashes i’ve had simply changing CP is embarrasing

[edited to remove quote]

mikey_reach

gwmayar wrote: »

beer781993 wrote: »

@ZOS_SarahHecker So much time passed already.

Are you guys still thinking about it or trying anything? I wonder what in the future means.

I'm afraid no one will answer us, they chose the tactic of complete silence. At the moment, I'm not even sure if they have a position of community manager, if this position still exists, then I have a lot of questions for this person

"I’d honestly ignore him, he doesn’t wanna see our side at all, he thinks making a brand new account makes sense"

I think everyone has already understood everything and no one pays attention to him.

In fact, he does a very good job, he maintains this topic in the top without letting it go down, for which I am grateful to him. You don't have to run into the negative, always look for the positive. There is enough negativity in life without it.

The PS5 version has a lot of problems, in addition to problems with trophies, mediocre performance in some places, a lot of crashes. The game behaves extremely unstable and was clearly not ready for release. Now I already have fewer complaints about the fact that something does not work, and more to the fact that there is no communication with the players, as a result of which, there is no understanding of what is going on and what to expect next.

Yeah making a new account to solve this issue is pretty ignorant. That’s like when zos had us grind vet malestrom for the weapons that had a unique stat glyph then they remove it and re introduced it as a set piece bonus and then they told us “you need to refarm vet malestrom again because you had never earned this bonus even though you had it and we took it away. I personally joined eso on psn after ps5 so i did not suffer from this but if i had gained trophies and then lost them i would have not bothered and gone back to my 1.8k cp xbox account. I really hope they fix everything soon i really like the dual sense, 3d headset, the hdr looks better on the ps5 over xbox and also the more gaming centered experience that ps5 offers over xbox but unfortunately right now the better performing platforms right now are xbox and pc for many reasons like bugs and lack of vrr support which im still waiting on for the ps5

apri

It really is surprising that we still did not get an update on this. For some trophies it pushes players in the awkward spot to have to consider which client to play this game on to not lock out trophies for either the PS4 or the PS5 trophy set. I have made this mistake and try to fix this now which is a tedious thing we should not have to even think or worry about.

renne

kmcaj wrote: »

renne wrote: »

kmcaj wrote: »

Didn't realize get double trophies with Doom eternal as well! Working on double platinum ESO trophies and soon to start the double Doom. Hopefully Bethesda won't break trophies to appease the few who want trophies without playing the game.

I have played the game though. I have put literally thousands of hours into the game to earn those trophies. I shouldn't have to redo all that I've done playing the game just to re-earn the trophies I have already earned by playing the game.

Ì'm assuming you played the old PS4 ESO game for thousands of hours. There are the old trophies for the old PS4 ESO game and new trophies for the new PS5 ESO game! You get to keep some progress like character, currency, etc - but you don't get the new PS5 trophies that you haven't earned yet. You can earn the new PS5 ESO game trophies from playing the new PS5 ESO game though! All you have to do is complete some specific in game objectives to earn the various trophies. It's that easy! If you haven't tried the new PS5 ESO game yet you really should. It is much improved over the old PS4 version.

It's the same game and you just entirely disproved your own patronising point, because if it's the same character and the same progress it's the same game. [snip]

[edited for baiting]

renne

renne wrote: »

Honestly, it's actually pretty damn upsetting to look through my trophies on PS4 and know that I have to do ALL that work all over again - all the base game, all the DLCs, all of it, just to get to the same thing on PS%. Especially the few DLCs that I have only one or two trophies to clean up for 100%.

Why should we have to downgrade our version of the game in order to complete our trophy lists and not have to redo Every. Single. Thing. from scratch? @ZOS_SarahHecker? @ZOS_GinaBruno? Bueller? ANYONE?

Can anyone from ZoS answer us that? When pretty much every other game with a next gen upgrade has ported the trophy list over?

This just feels like a punishment for having put so much time and effort into the game on an """"old"""" version.

HELLO @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_SarahHecker?? ANYONE?

kmcaj

renne wrote: »

kmcaj wrote: »

renne wrote: »

kmcaj wrote: »

Didn't realize get double trophies with Doom eternal as well! Working on double platinum ESO trophies and soon to start the double Doom. Hopefully Bethesda won't break trophies to appease the few who want trophies without playing the game.

I have played the game though. I have put literally thousands of hours into the game to earn those trophies. I shouldn't have to redo all that I've done playing the game just to re-earn the trophies I have already earned by playing the game.

Ì'm assuming you played the old PS4 ESO game for thousands of hours. There are the old trophies for the old PS4 ESO game and new trophies for the new PS5 ESO game! You get to keep some progress like character, currency, etc - but you don't get the new PS5 trophies that you haven't earned yet. You can earn the new PS5 ESO game trophies from playing the new PS5 ESO game though! All you have to do is complete some specific in game objectives to earn the various trophies. It's that easy! If you haven't tried the new PS5 ESO game yet you really should. It is much improved over the old PS4 version.

It's the same game and you just entirely disproved your own patronising point, because if it's the same character and the same progress it's the same game. [snip]

There are two games! The older (but still good) PS4 ESO game and the brand new PS5 ESO game! In my honest opinion, the brand new ESO PS5 game is better than the old PS4 game but they are both excellent games. The best way to enjoy the brand new PS5 ESO game is from the beginning but unfortunately ZOS (mistakingly? Idk) left the option of being able to continue some previous but unearned progress in the new PS5 ESO game. Just don't let the unearned progress ruin the new PS5 ESO game! It is still excellent and still has trophies to be won!

[edited to remove quote]

AuraStorm43

renne wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Honestly, it's actually pretty damn upsetting to look through my trophies on PS4 and know that I have to do ALL that work all over again - all the base game, all the DLCs, all of it, just to get to the same thing on PS%. Especially the few DLCs that I have only one or two trophies to clean up for 100%.

Why should we have to downgrade our version of the game in order to complete our trophy lists and not have to redo Every. Single. Thing. from scratch? @ZOS_SarahHecker? @ZOS_GinaBruno? Bueller? ANYONE?

Can anyone from ZoS answer us that? When pretty much every other game with a next gen upgrade has ported the trophy list over?

This just feels like a punishment for having put so much time and effort into the game on an """"old"""" version.

HELLO @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_SarahHecker?? ANYONE?

The silence is honestly deafening at this point

Just come out and say “yes this will be fixed, we’re working on it” or “no it won’t be fixed” so we can move on and not have to come up with “conspiracy theories” as to why they didn’t implement trophy transfers

lillybit

I've just read that PS4's are getting an update to allow them to see PS5 trophies. I wonder (hope!) if that will make it easier for them to sort this out and let them sync.

gwmayar

We are now witnessing "the best" community management in MMO history.

The game on PS5 is absolutely not ready for release, trophies do not work, constant crashes (I can't even distribute CP calmly without the game crashing) and we still have no answers or even at least some news about what is happening.
We will not even raise the question of the fact that the starting locations have already simply drowned in bots and people are just tired of even sending reports.

But they chose a strategy - "we do it quietly, we won't say anything to anyone".
What is very surprising, I play MMO games from Ultima Online (I am 38 years old - yes, I am old ^_^ ), a and I haven't seen such a bad interaction with players from the developer for a long time.

AuraStorm43

gwmayar wrote: »

We are now witnessing "the best" community management in MMO history.

The game on PS5 is absolutely not ready for release, trophies do not work, constant crashes (I can't even distribute CP calmly without the game crashing) and we still have no answers or even at least some news about what is happening.
We will not even raise the question of the fact that the starting locations have already simply drowned in bots and people are just tired of even sending reports.

But they chose a strategy - "we do it quietly, we won't say anything to anyone".
What is very surprising, I play MMO games from Ultima Online (I am 38 years old - yes, I am old ^_^ ), a and I haven't seen such a bad interaction with players from the developer for a long time.

Its mostly a case of not saying anything to avoid making promises they can’t keep

But, we shouldn’t have to come up with “conspiracy theories” to wonder why this is happening, but this lack of communication is par for the course, its been a thing for years

B0SSzombie

In 9 more days, this topic will be two months old.

With absolutely nothing from ZOS as far as information goes.

Not great.

JadepantherX

Your PS4 Trophies are still there, when you install the PS5 enhanced version, it adds a NEW ADDITIONAL Elder scrolls only trophy listing for NEW trophies you can earn on PS5
Look at your trophies on the PS5 you will see 2 listing for The Elder Scrolls, the PS4 with all your trophies, and the New PS5 install
This is great news for Trophy hunters, not only do we still have all the PS4 trophies, we can continue earning new trophies on PS5, fantastic if you have %100 trophies on PS4, you get to earn ALOT of new trophies on the PS5 version.
You do not "lose" your ps4 trophies they will always be there.
Achievements carry over from PS4 to PS5, you do not have to earn them again.
Also you can simply toggle back and forth between the PS4 version and the PS5 version on the PS5 Enhanced version so you can finish up your PS4 Trophies, then start earning new ones on PS5. I get to keep playing the game I love, and keep earning trophies, how is this a bad thing?

kmcaj

JadepantherX wrote: »

Your PS4 Trophies are still there, when you install the PS5 enhanced version, it adds a NEW ADDITIONAL Elder scrolls only trophy listing for NEW trophies you can earn on PS5
Look at your trophies on the PS5 you will see 2 listing for The Elder Scrolls, the PS4 with all your trophies, and the New PS5 install
This is great news for Trophy hunters, not only do we still have all the PS4 trophies, we can continue earning new trophies on PS5, fantastic if you have %100 trophies on PS4, you get to earn ALOT of new trophies on the PS5 version.
You do not "lose" your ps4 trophies they will always be there.
Achievements carry over from PS4 to PS5, you do not have to earn them again.
Also you can simply toggle back and forth between the PS4 version and the PS5 version on the PS5 Enhanced version so you can finish up your PS4 Trophies, then start earning new ones on PS5. I get to keep playing the game I love, and keep earning trophies, how is this a bad thing?

An excellent point to really prove that this whole play station trophy thing is a non issue and not worth spending zos' s resources on.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

JadepantherX wrote: »

Your PS4 Trophies are still there, when you install the PS5 enhanced version, it adds a NEW ADDITIONAL Elder scrolls only trophy listing for NEW trophies you can earn on PS5
Look at your trophies on the PS5 you will see 2 listing for The Elder Scrolls, the PS4 with all your trophies, and the New PS5 install
This is great news for Trophy hunters, not only do we still have all the PS4 trophies, we can continue earning new trophies on PS5, fantastic if you have %100 trophies on PS4, you get to earn ALOT of new trophies on the PS5 version.
You do not "lose" your ps4 trophies they will always be there.
Achievements carry over from PS4 to PS5, you do not have to earn them again.
Also you can simply toggle back and forth between the PS4 version and the PS5 version on the PS5 Enhanced version so you can finish up your PS4 Trophies, then start earning new ones on PS5. I get to keep playing the game I love, and keep earning trophies, how is this a bad thing?

How is it a bad thing?
In about every way possible

We already earned those trophy they should carry over to the new list like most other ps4 to ps5 upgrade,
also they are the exact same trophy as the ps4 version not new one

Some arent redoable since we already got the acheivement, and a lot of us got our 18 slot full so we cant start over on a new character(without deleting the hundread of hours poured in a character)

B0SSzombie

JadepantherX wrote: »

Your PS4 Trophies are still there, when you install the PS5 enhanced version, it adds a NEW ADDITIONAL Elder scrolls only trophy listing for NEW trophies you can earn on PS5
Look at your trophies on the PS5 you will see 2 listing for The Elder Scrolls, the PS4 with all your trophies, and the New PS5 install
This is great news for Trophy hunters, not only do we still have all the PS4 trophies, we can continue earning new trophies on PS5, fantastic if you have %100 trophies on PS4, you get to earn ALOT of new trophies on the PS5 version.
You do not "lose" your ps4 trophies they will always be there.
Achievements carry over from PS4 to PS5, you do not have to earn them again.
Also you can simply toggle back and forth between the PS4 version and the PS5 version on the PS5 Enhanced version so you can finish up your PS4 Trophies, then start earning new ones on PS5. I get to keep playing the game I love, and keep earning trophies, how is this a bad thing?

If that's such a great thing, why do nearly all other companies that have cross-generation games do trophy re-unlocking?

If Borderlands, Assassin's Creed, Destiny, and plenty of others unlock Trophies on the PS5 based on what you did on a save that originated from the PS4, why does ESO (and DOOM Eternal) get to be exempt from the expectations?

We're not asking for an innovative feature here, just an industry standard.

Edit:C'mon Man, I just looked at your Trophies. You just have casual adventuring stuff unlocked. No Emperor, no Master Angler, not even any Veteran DLC Dungeon clears. Just Skyshards, Dungeons, Dolmens, etc. You don't really have a platform to argue on in regards to this discussion when you haven't really done anything that requires significant effort...

beer781993

https://twitter.com/faerie_sarah/status/1423736473908559883?s=19

No wonder we get no news anymore.....

beer781993

Was a placebo answer to calm down people in here after all.

[snip]
[edited for bashing]

gwmayar

B0SSzombie wrote: »

JadepantherX wrote: »

Your PS4 Trophies are still there, when you install the PS5 enhanced version, it adds a NEW ADDITIONAL Elder scrolls only trophy listing for NEW trophies you can earn on PS5
Look at your trophies on the PS5 you will see 2 listing for The Elder Scrolls, the PS4 with all your trophies, and the New PS5 install
This is great news for Trophy hunters, not only do we still have all the PS4 trophies, we can continue earning new trophies on PS5, fantastic if you have %100 trophies on PS4, you get to earn ALOT of new trophies on the PS5 version.
You do not "lose" your ps4 trophies they will always be there.
Achievements carry over from PS4 to PS5, you do not have to earn them again.
Also you can simply toggle back and forth between the PS4 version and the PS5 version on the PS5 Enhanced version so you can finish up your PS4 Trophies, then start earning new ones on PS5. I get to keep playing the game I love, and keep earning trophies, how is this a bad thing?

If that's such a great thing, why do nearly all other companies that have cross-generation games do trophy re-unlocking?

If Borderlands, Assassin's Creed, Destiny, and plenty of others unlock Trophies on the PS5 based on what you did on a save that originated from the PS4, why does ESO (and DOOM Eternal) get to be exempt from the expectations?

We're not asking for an innovative feature here, just an industry standard.

Edit:C'mon Man, I just looked at your Trophies. You just have casual adventuring stuff unlocked. No Emperor, no Master Angler, not even any Veteran DLC Dungeon clears. Just Skyshards, Dungeons, Dolmens, etc. You don't really have a platform to argue on in regards to this discussion when you haven't really done anything that requires significant effort...

Don't pay any attention to them, it's not worth it, here everyone has already stopped doing it 5 pages ago. In addition to the fact that you can use a nickname and see their trophies, and see that there are 0 the most difficult ones.And in the PS5 version he has 0%, you can also go to their profile and see their latest activity on the forum. And you will see that all they have been doing lately is winding up the rating of their own posts, giving them hearts. I haven't laughed like that in a long time.

Wow... wish you all the best @ZOS_SarahHecker. Thank you for being with us all this time, success in your new place of work, and I hope you will be fine.

This explains a little about the silence on the forum ...

gwmayar

beer781993 wrote: »

Was a placebo answer to calm down people in here after all.

[snip]

As it seems to me at the moment, especially considering how much time has passed, I think we have lost and nothing will be done. Which is quite strange considering that all trophies are ultimately stored in the player's achievement diary, and all they need to do is just scan the player's diaries.

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makasouleater420

B11zzard1991 wrote: »

Other games copy all ps4 trophies to ps5, no reason eso can't do the same.

You sure about that? They might be gambling that you will keep playing longer, since trophies seem to be popular for what ever reason. Thier goal is to keep you playing and make them money, nothing else, they do not care in the slightest if it makes you angry, or upset if it makes them more money.

It's like the no way to change classes, I guarantee in thier data, it says people will spend hundreds of hours remaking characters to a new class, which equals more money for them. I'm not sure how long it takes to redo trophies, since they are absolutely meaningless to me, but I'm gonna guess it's not a 10 min process.

So my guess is they said hmm, well some people are just gonna stay with PS4, but others might play 10x longer than they originally would to get the PS5 trophies, let's roll the dice and see.

gwmayar

makasouleater420 wrote: »

B11zzard1991 wrote: »

Other games copy all ps4 trophies to ps5, no reason eso can't do the same.

You sure about that? They might be gambling that you will keep playing longer, since trophies seem to be popular for what ever reason. Thier goal is to keep you playing and make them money, nothing else, they do not care in the slightest if it makes you angry, or upset if it makes them more money.

It's like the no way to change classes, I guarantee in thier data, it says people will spend hundreds of hours remaking characters to a new class, which equals more money for them. I'm not sure how long it takes to redo trophies, since they are absolutely meaningless to me, but I'm gonna guess it's not a 10 min process.

So my guess is they said hmm, well some people are just gonna stay with PS4, but others might play 10x longer than they originally would to get the PS5 trophies, let's roll the dice and see.

The main problem now is that it's not enough for you to just open them on PS5, There are people who have been playing for a long time since the release itself, and they have a lot of characters. And the only way for them to get the opportunity to receive trophies at all is to remove one of their characters or go to the store and buy a slot for a character with their own money.

And that's a problem and that's not okay