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So on the PS5 Version I have to do all Trophies again?
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✭✭Didn't realize get double trophies with Doom eternal as well! Working on double platinum ESO trophies and soon to start the double Doom. Hopefully Bethesda won't break trophies to appease the few who want trophies without playing the game.
I have played the game though. I have put literally thousands of hours into the game to earn those trophies. I shouldn't have to redo all that I've done playing the game just to re-earn the trophies I have already earned by playing the game.0 -
AuraStorm43✭✭✭✭✭Didn't realize get double trophies with Doom eternal as well! Working on double platinum ESO trophies and soon to start the double Doom. Hopefully Bethesda won't break trophies to appease the few who want trophies without playing the game.
I have played the game though. I have put literally thousands of hours into the game to earn those trophies. I shouldn't have to redo all that I've done playing the game just to re-earn the trophies I have already earned by playing the game.
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You already earned those trophies, [snip] its the same damn game enhanced
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kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭AuraStorm43 wrote: »Didn't realize get double trophies with Doom eternal as well! Working on double platinum ESO trophies and soon to start the double Doom. Hopefully Bethesda won't break trophies to appease the few who want trophies without playing the game.
I have played the game though. I have put literally thousands of hours into the game to earn those trophies. I shouldn't have to redo all that I've done playing the game just to re-earn the trophies I have already earned by playing the game.
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You already earned those trophies, [snip] its the same damn game enhanced
There are separate trophies for each of the two games! You can earn the old PS4 trophies by playing the old PS4 ESO game and the new PS5 trophies by playing the brand new PS5 ESO game. If you own a PS5 you can easily earn both PS4 and PS5 trophies by completing specific tasks on each version. If you only have a PS4 then you can only earn PS4 trophies but that can simply be remedied by getting a PS5 and playing that version to earn the new PS5 trophies as well!
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✭✭✭✭✭Sure you can, but you are leaving out starting from scratch with a new account on the PS5.
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AuraStorm43✭✭✭✭✭AuraStorm43 wrote: »Didn't realize get double trophies with Doom eternal as well! Working on double platinum ESO trophies and soon to start the double Doom. Hopefully Bethesda won't break trophies to appease the few who want trophies without playing the game.
I have played the game though. I have put literally thousands of hours into the game to earn those trophies. I shouldn't have to redo all that I've done playing the game just to re-earn the trophies I have already earned by playing the game.
[snip]
You already earned those trophies, [snip] its the same damn game enhanced
There are separate trophies for each of the two games! You can earn the old PS4 trophies by playing the old PS4 ESO game and the new PS5 trophies by playing the brand new PS5 ESO game. If you own a PS5 you can easily earn both PS4 and PS5 trophies by completing specific tasks on each version. If you only have a PS4 then you can only earn PS4 trophies but that can simply be remedied by getting a PS5 and playing that version to earn the new PS5 trophies as well!
They aren’t 2 seperate games tho you completely ignored my point [snip]
You’d have to start a brand new account to unlock all the PS5 trophies since many are broken
[edited to remove quote & for baiting]Edited by ZOS_Icy on August 1, 2021 11:05AM1 -
mikey_reach✭✭✭AuraStorm43 wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »AuraStorm43 wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »B0SSzombie wrote: »AuraStorm43 wrote: »B0SSzombie wrote: »AuraStorm43 wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »AuraStorm43 wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »AuraStorm43 wrote: »There's absolutely no difference in PS4 trophies from PS5. It has all the same trophies that was on the old version, there are only added trophies.
AC Valhalla had broken trophy sync system at the beginning. For me and a lot of others, I couldn't get simple trophies to popup unless I did certain tasks, and those tasks weren't even related to the trophy! I even earned trophies on PS5 that I didn't on the ps4 whiiile I kept attempting to pop the old ones. And guess what happened? They eventually still popped up after a patch, and also after repeating certain tasks. So your point of Zos breaking the trophies is just wrong.
There is no reason they cannot do this other than they just don't want to. Well good luck keeping paying customers like me around.
Proves what i believed which is that its very patchable, but considering Doom Eternal had the same problems, I’m blaming ZOS/Bethesda for rushing it out the door before it was ready
Zos delayed it for like 6 months actually so its the opposite of rushed last 2 times they did console upgrade like this they actually released the patch on day one of console release.
Sure but it launched with some pretty big crash issues, they clearly didn’t test very well at all
That is a very realistic statement i also felt like having it drop with blackwood was a marketing strategy, “try out the new hardware with the biggest newest content of the year”. As far as testing goes i feel like yeah it could have been that partly they did not test but also if they did know about it they probably did not have the time to get it addressed without putting other things that are in line behind from a business standpoint is my guess. And like ive mention before the major reason why ps5 has these problems and not the xbox all biases aside is because xbox has smart delivery which allows for the x|S consoles to treat the games as if it was a pc game and not an old get console game for easy porting and upscaling in graphics and settings having both system i can tell you this is one of the reasons why on ps5 im just playing normal skyrim and on the series x im playing skyrim with 60fps and auto hdr.
Its not what i’d call bias to point out that microsoft supports older games better they do, often going outta their way and above and beyond to get older games running better on newer hardware, Sony’s answers to wait till devs update the games themselves
Sure there’s an argument to be made that Microsoft’s process is better but its also only Zeni/Bethesda owned IP’s with this problem, heck in the PS5 upgrade of Doom Eternal there’s no save file imports from PS4, its either a case of releasing upgrades before they were ready or it was done on purpose, take your pick
Did they ever say if they'd be looking into save importing for Doom Eternal?
Judging from their faq page, no, i don’t see any response from ID or Bethesda about it, there could be something i didn’t find tho
Thing is Sony’s save import process requires devs to actually put in cloud services in the PS4 version to slide save data over, for ff7r integrade, BL3, and Miles Morales I had to import data from the PS4 versions to get it on PS5. Sure Sony made the process harder than it needs to be but it looks like ID/ZOS cut corners to get the upgrades out the door
I'm still not convinced that Microsoft hasn't implemented some kind of "Development Block" on any Bethesda/Zenimax owned games on PlayStation systems for features that would be exclusive to PS Consoles, like Save importing or Trophy Re-unlocking.
You know there is plenty of information out there that proves that its a sony issue cause by sony itself and not microsoft right? If microsoft had anything to do with this then there should be legal statements proving that this is the case otherwise sony would have sued xbox for sabotage or anything along those lines.
You can keep trying to argue its Sony but ZOS made the choice to launch these upgrades without these features, if Gearbox [snip] can get save file imports and trophies working on PS5 so can ZOS
Im sure zos can i have never said they cant but they are probably adding that to the list since it wouldnt make sense for them to make time for it over something else that can bring them money. Now im not saying im ok with this i want my ps5 version of the game to be on taken care of like pc and xbox. So far it seems like of course pc is the best version with xbox being second and ps5 third when in reality ps5 can be just as good as xbox except right now its poorly optimized.
Why are you continuing to off load the blame on Sony? This is a ZOS decision
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Why? Well because its the truth there is evidence of how poorly ps5’s backwards compatibility is designed.For sony users you have 2 versions of eso the ps4 and the ps5 you can actually buy the wrong version on the ps5 which makes sense why its sony’s fault for the achievement problem if zos didnt prevent it before release then that is a different story. For Microsoft there is only one version of eso for xbox because it doesnt see eso has a last gen game.Unlike sony xbox sees eso as a pc game so it can easily move and upscale everything seamlessly. Also why are you putting full blame on zos where can i find the evidence?Edited by mikey_reach on July 27, 2021 4:31PM0 -
lagrue✭✭✭✭✭
✭mikey_reach wrote: »
skyrim at 60 fpsmikey_reach wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Yikes ps needs to be so anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.
It's all Microsoft's doing. Even Doom just got a PS5 version released, no achievements, no saves, no trophies transferred over. Can't blame Sony for this because other games do this, and they are 1st party.
Are you serious you really think this is microsoft’s doing? [snip] This has everything to do with sony and how they are anti consumer when it comes to backwards compat, the reason this happens is because sony doesnt care about past games and the way they see eso is as a past console game so any game that got crossed into the next generation of playstation will have this problem. The only thing that is microsoft’s doing is smart delivery so that xbox players dont have to go through what playstation is currently going through with cross gen games now that is pro consumer. Don’t even get me started on how playstation is the only gaming platform that is against crossplay which would be another fact of how they are less pro consumer.
Okay, keep blaming Sony...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Trophies/comments/mqt9n6
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Actually a mod allows an .ini tweak so you can do this on PS4 and PS5 as well. That's just Bethesda not properly supporting the game lolEdited by lagrue on July 27, 2021 8:58PMPSN ID (NA only): Zuzu_With_a_Z
*GRAND MASTER CRAFTER*
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mikey_reach✭✭✭mikey_reach wrote: »
skyrim at 60 fpsmikey_reach wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Yikes ps needs to be so anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.
It's all Microsoft's doing. Even Doom just got a PS5 version released, no achievements, no saves, no trophies transferred over. Can't blame Sony for this because other games do this, and they are 1st party.
Are you serious you really think this is microsoft’s doing? [snip] This has everything to do with sony and how they are anti consumer when it comes to backwards compat, the reason this happens is because sony doesnt care about past games and the way they see eso is as a past console game so any game that got crossed into the next generation of playstation will have this problem. The only thing that is microsoft’s doing is smart delivery so that xbox players dont have to go through what playstation is currently going through with cross gen games now that is pro consumer. Don’t even get me started on how playstation is the only gaming platform that is against crossplay which would be another fact of how they are less pro consumer. Okay, keep blaming Sony...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Trophies/comments/mqt9n6
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Actually a mod allows an .ini tweak so you can do this on PS4 and PS5 as well. That's just Bethesda not properly supporting the game lol
Wrong its not bethesda its sony’s poor implementation of backwards compatibility it has nothing to do with bethesda. Also series x does it through the fps boost option that it has just like the auto hdr option that it also has. I have both consoles and i have to mod the ps5 version to make it look and run better which means no trophies while xbox can do all that with no mods and keep achievements . Trust me you are miss informed bethesda has nothing to do with it its 100% because of how the ps5 is built,hence sony’s fault. Another example is titanfall 2 on ps5 it plays at 30 fps no hdr on sx it plays at 120 fps auto hdr and trust me its not Respawn’s fault.
This doesn’t explain everything but if you dont believe me maybe you can believe experts
https://youtu.be/D8E3UEutMPw
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mikey_reach✭✭✭[snip]
But that wouldnt be a problem in the first place if it wasnt for sony is my point, that is the fact. Zos had the same patch for both consoles and xbox received it well because of how Microsoft handles backwards compatibility and ps5 did not receive it well because of how sony handles backwards compatibility. Sure its up to zos now to do extra work to fix the situation sony put them in but ultimately it is not zos/bethesda’s fault.
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kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭AuraStorm43 wrote: »AuraStorm43 wrote: »Didn't realize get double trophies with Doom eternal as well! Working on double platinum ESO trophies and soon to start the double Doom. Hopefully Bethesda won't break trophies to appease the few who want trophies without playing the game.
I have played the game though. I have put literally thousands of hours into the game to earn those trophies. I shouldn't have to redo all that I've done playing the game just to re-earn the trophies I have already earned by playing the game.
[snip]
You already earned those trophies, [snip] its the same damn game enhanced
There are separate trophies for each of the two games! You can earn the old PS4 trophies by playing the old PS4 ESO game and the new PS5 trophies by playing the brand new PS5 ESO game. If you own a PS5 you can easily earn both PS4 and PS5 trophies by completing specific tasks on each version. If you only have a PS4 then you can only earn PS4 trophies but that can simply be remedied by getting a PS5 and playing that version to earn the new PS5 trophies as well!
They aren’t 2 seperate games tho you completely ignored my point [snip]
You’d have to start a brand new account to unlock all the PS5 trophies since many are broken
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I think that a brand new account would be the best way to enjoy this brand new PS5 ESO game. I admit that I was a little disappointed that non trophy progress was being carried over to the new PS5 ESO game, after all, none of that progress was earned on the new PS5 ESO game! In my honest opinion I think Bethesda handled the release of the new PS5 Doom game better. I think they learned from their mistake of releasing the PS5 ESO game with unearned progress.
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✭✭✭vivisectvib16_ESO wrote: »Via twitter.. it's a response of sorts, at least.
If they do this, all the arguments about not being able to xfer stuff (especially purchases) cross platform goes out the window!PC
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✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »vivisectvib16_ESO wrote: »Via twitter.. it's a response of sorts, at least.
If they do this, all the arguments about not being able to xfer stuff (especially purchases) cross platform goes out the window!
Those aren't really related in the slightest.
One is asking for a system that checks what you've already done and unlocks the corresponding trophies.
The other is asking for a server migration to a server that already has a LOT of data.
Games like Borderlands could do that, since all their online data is hosted in one place, but not MMOs.
I'm not hesitant to call out bull, but what you're asking for is VERY difficult for a game that operates on a bunch of different servers.0 -
AuraStorm43✭✭✭✭✭B0SSzombie wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »vivisectvib16_ESO wrote: »Via twitter.. it's a response of sorts, at least.
If they do this, all the arguments about not being able to xfer stuff (especially purchases) cross platform goes out the window!
Those aren't really related in the slightest.
One is asking for a system that checks what you've already done and unlocks the corresponding trophies.
The other is asking for a server migration to a server that already has a LOT of data.
Games like Borderlands could do that, since all their online data is hosted in one place, but not MMOs.
I'm not hesitant to call out bull, but what you're asking for is VERY difficult for a game that operates on a bunch of different servers.
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xIOrcaIx✭✭So i started the PS5 Version of Warframe today and all my 59 Trophies from the PS4 Version popped after the login screen. When a much smaller Studio like Digital Extremes can make it happen it should be no problem for a huge company like Bethesda.0
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kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭So i started the PS5 Version of Warframe today and all my 59 Trophies from the PS4 Version popped after the login screen. When a much smaller Studio like Digital Extremes can make it happen it should be no problem for a huge company like Bethesda.
Bethesda graciously decided to grant us PS5 users more trophies! Maybe these smaller studios can't afford more trophies? I dont know. It's certainly fortunate for us that we have more new trophies for this new PS5 ESO game!0 -
AuraStorm43✭✭✭✭✭So i started the PS5 Version of Warframe today and all my 59 Trophies from the PS4 Version popped after the login screen. When a much smaller Studio like Digital Extremes can make it happen it should be no problem for a huge company like Bethesda.
Bethesda graciously decided to grant us PS5 users more trophies! Maybe these smaller studios can't afford more trophies? I dont know. It's certainly fortunate for us that we have more new trophies for this new PS5 ESO game!
So did Warframe problem is you have to do twice the work in ESO1 -
kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭It's not work! it's a fun game! Have fun while collecting all the brand new ESO PS5 game trophies!0
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Espionage-✭✭✭It is work when you have to create a new character. Trying to find a group for the Magma Masher achievement for example is just annoyingPS4 | DC |0 -
AuraStorm43✭✭✭✭✭It's not work! it's a fun game! Have fun while collecting all the brand new ESO PS5 game trophies!
[snip], master angler and the emperor trophies take hundreds if not thousands of hours, and having to create a new character is work and costs money, for players like me with no new character slots many trophies are currently paywalled
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gwmayar✭✭✭kmcaj - I'am realy glad that your happy.
People don't care much about trophies that need to be spent 1-2 days, People are more concerned about trophies that require weeks or months of farming (Fisherman, Emperor ect). Also, you absolutely do not take into account the fact that most of the old players who are playing since the release of the game have 5-8 characters.And the only way to open trophies is to remove one of your characters on which you spent time and effort, or go to the store and spend 1500 crowns (your real money) in order to buy another character slot.
And by this point can you plz go to https://psnprofiles.com/. And link you trophy profile hire?
It will take you a few seconds and it won't do anything wrong, or hurt you.
Because everything that you write does not make much sense, as a buyer who has paid and continues to pay money for the product, you have every right to leave your point of view, especially if the developer is wrong.And most die-hard fans have bought this game twice. Once on disk once digitally.
At the moment, TECO is the only online game in my collection that hasn't synched trophies.Everyone else did it, and they didn't make patches, didn't ask players, didn't post on forums, etc. You just downloaded the client and everything worked right away from day 1.
There are just obvious things that need to be done, simply because they are right.
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kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭If playing a video game is like work it's being played wrong! The trophies are easy to get by completing specific tasks! The fishing is mostly standing around then running to a new spot then standing around again and the other is having fun in Cyrodiil! Just by playing the game I'm getting all the brand new trophies! No need for trophy cheats. They can be earned in game by playing as intended!0
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gwmayar✭✭✭If playing a video game is like work it's being played wrong! The trophies are easy to get by completing specific tasks! The fishing is mostly standing around then running to a new spot then standing around again and the other is having fun in Cyrodiil! Just by playing the game I'm getting all the brand new trophies! No need for trophy cheats. They can be earned in game by playing as intended!
Thank you so much for your answer. [snip] I wish you a pleasant game.
Returning to more serious things, almost two months have passed, and there is still no answer or even information?
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AuraStorm43✭✭✭✭✭If playing a video game is like work it's being played wrong! The trophies are easy to get by completing specific tasks! The fishing is mostly standing around then running to a new spot then standing around again and the other is having fun in Cyrodiil! Just by playing the game I'm getting all the brand new trophies! No need for trophy cheats. They can be earned in game by playing as intended!
Thank you so much for your answer. [snip] I wish you a pleasant game.
Returning to more serious things, almost two months have passed, and there is still no answer or even information?
Just “we know and may have information in the future about a fix” there’s a dev response in this thread and a post from twitter support
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gwmayar✭✭✭AuraStorm43 wrote: »If playing a video game is like work it's being played wrong! The trophies are easy to get by completing specific tasks! The fishing is mostly standing around then running to a new spot then standing around again and the other is having fun in Cyrodiil! Just by playing the game I'm getting all the brand new trophies! No need for trophy cheats. They can be earned in game by playing as intended!
Thank you so much for your answer. [snip] I wish you a pleasant game.
Returning to more serious things, almost two months have passed, and there is still no answer or even information?
Just “we know and may have information in the future about a fix” there’s a dev response in this thread and a post from twitter support
Well, this is at least something, and not a complete silence, but the mood does not improve from this...
But they have time until the version of Final Fantasy for PS5 came out. Then I'm afraid it will be too late.
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AuraStorm43✭✭✭✭✭AuraStorm43 wrote: »If playing a video game is like work it's being played wrong! The trophies are easy to get by completing specific tasks! The fishing is mostly standing around then running to a new spot then standing around again and the other is having fun in Cyrodiil! Just by playing the game I'm getting all the brand new trophies! No need for trophy cheats. They can be earned in game by playing as intended!
Thank you so much for your answer. [snip] I wish you a pleasant game.
Returning to more serious things, almost two months have passed, and there is still no answer or even information?
Just “we know and may have information in the future about a fix” there’s a dev response in this thread and a post from twitter support
Well, this is at least something, and not a complete silence, but the mood does not improve from this...
But they have time until the version of Final Fantasy for PS5 came out. Then I'm afraid it will be too late.
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The complete edition’s also on sale on the playstation store right now, now’s as good a time as any if you wanna jump ship
Its just annoying cuz Doom Eternal’s got similar issues[snip]
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gwmayar✭✭✭There is no need to produce any conspiratorial theories, Microsoft does not care what ZOE does. This is a separate company with separate problems, they have a headache even without ZOE.
In this case, we are dealing with the usual shortsightedness and lack of insight on the part of the developer. It just so happened that a similar thing happened with Doom, but there is no relationship whatsoever.
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kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭There may be no relationship whatsoever but I like to believe it's Bethesda gifting me more trophies as I am a trophy collector.0