So on the PS5 Version I have to do all Trophies again?

GenjiraX

The best option is just don’t watch the stream. ZOS has treated many of us, you PS5 players here and many on @Yormula’s CS-trashed character thread, with utter contempt. Ignore them the way they ignore us. That’s what I’ll be doing, anyway.

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mikey_reach

Yikes ps needs to be less anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.

Sju

mikey_reach wrote: »

Yikes ps needs to be so anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.

It's all Microsoft's doing. Even Doom just got a PS5 version released, no achievements, no saves, no trophies transferred over. Can't blame Sony for this because other games do this, and they are 1st party.

Elsonso

Sju wrote: »

mikey_reach wrote: »

Yikes ps needs to be so anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.

It's all Microsoft's doing. Even Doom just got a PS5 version released, no achievements, no saves, no trophies transferred over. Can't blame Sony for this because other games do this, and they are 1st party.

Most certainly can, because Sony is the first party. It does not matter whether other games do it or not. As far as I am concerned, those trophies should be owned and managed by Sony. The studios should not have to jump through hoops and take special measures to manage something that should be managed for them. At worst, the upgrade from PS4 to PS5 should have had a little check box saying "copy Trophies" and any studio that did not check that box should have had a follow up to make sure that is what they intended. In my opinion, they should have been copied unless the studio said "No". In triplicate.

FreakerUK

I’ve uninstalled the PS5 version until they fix this. There’s absolutely no way that I’m going to put my 88% progress to the Plat which I’ve been working on for 6 years in jeopardy by accidentally earning a trophy on the PS5.

mikey_reach

Sju wrote: »

mikey_reach wrote: »

Yikes ps needs to be so anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.

It's all Microsoft's doing. Even Doom just got a PS5 version released, no achievements, no saves, no trophies transferred over. Can't blame Sony for this because other games do this, and they are 1st party.

Are you serious you really think this is microsoft’s doing? [snip] This has everything to do with sony and how they are anti consumer when it comes to backwards compat, the reason this happens is because sony doesnt care about past games and the way they see eso is as a past console game so any game that got crossed into the next generation of playstation will have this problem. The only thing that is microsoft’s doing is smart delivery so that xbox players dont have to go through what playstation is currently going through with cross gen games now that is pro consumer. Don’t even get me started on how playstation is the only gaming platform that is against crossplay which would be another fact of how they are less pro consumer.

[edited for baiting]

Sju

mikey_reach wrote: »

Sju wrote: »

mikey_reach wrote: »

Yikes ps needs to be so anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.

It's all Microsoft's doing. Even Doom just got a PS5 version released, no achievements, no saves, no trophies transferred over. Can't blame Sony for this because other games do this, and they are 1st party.

Are you serious you really think this is microsoft’s doing? [snip] This has everything to do with sony and how they are anti consumer when it comes to backwards compat, the reason this happens is because sony doesnt care about past games and the way they see eso is as a past console game so any game that got crossed into the next generation of playstation will have this problem. The only thing that is microsoft’s doing is smart delivery so that xbox players dont have to go through what playstation is currently going through with cross gen games now that is pro consumer. Don’t even get me started on how playstation is the only gaming platform that is against crossplay which would be another fact of how they are less pro consumer.

Okay, keep blaming Sony...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Trophies/comments/mqt9n6

[edited to remove quote]

mikey_reach

Sju wrote: »

mikey_reach wrote: »

Sju wrote: »

mikey_reach wrote: »

Yikes ps needs to be so anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.

It's all Microsoft's doing. Even Doom just got a PS5 version released, no achievements, no saves, no trophies transferred over. Can't blame Sony for this because other games do this, and they are 1st party.

Are you serious you really think this is microsoft’s doing? [snip] This has everything to do with sony and how they are anti consumer when it comes to backwards compat, the reason this happens is because sony doesnt care about past games and the way they see eso is as a past console game so any game that got crossed into the next generation of playstation will have this problem. The only thing that is microsoft’s doing is smart delivery so that xbox players dont have to go through what playstation is currently going through with cross gen games now that is pro consumer. Don’t even get me started on how playstation is the only gaming platform that is against crossplay which would be another fact of how they are less pro consumer.

Okay, keep blaming Sony...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Trophies/comments/mqt9n6

You do realize you just posted an example to my facts right? Let me explain what your link means. Your link is pretty much an example of cross gen games some third party and some first. Both first and third party games that crossed generation to the ps5 have problems with saves and trophies because sony doesnt have smart delivery they dont care about game preservation as much as microsoft. However the only 2 games that have been an exception as far as i know is cyberpunk and fallen order and the only reason for this is that those 2 games have a built in code that lets the game recognize its a newer console. Any other cross gen game on ps5 will still have the same problem as eso because of sony’s poor implementation of backwards compatibility. Why do you think i can play skyrim at 60 fps and titanfall at 120fps on my series x and not on my ps5? Microsoft cares about backwards compatibility and sony doesnt. But thank you for the link it just backs up my facts.

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Sju

mikey_reach wrote: »

Sju wrote: »

mikey_reach wrote: »

Sju wrote: »

mikey_reach wrote: »

Yikes ps needs to be so anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.

It's all Microsoft's doing. Even Doom just got a PS5 version released, no achievements, no saves, no trophies transferred over. Can't blame Sony for this because other games do this, and they are 1st party.

Are you serious you really think this is microsoft’s doing? [snip] This has everything to do with sony and how they are anti consumer when it comes to backwards compat, the reason this happens is because sony doesnt care about past games and the way they see eso is as a past console game so any game that got crossed into the next generation of playstation will have this problem. The only thing that is microsoft’s doing is smart delivery so that xbox players dont have to go through what playstation is currently going through with cross gen games now that is pro consumer. Don’t even get me started on how playstation is the only gaming platform that is against crossplay which would be another fact of how they are less pro consumer.

Okay, keep blaming Sony...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Trophies/comments/mqt9n6

You do realize you just posted an example to my facts right? Let me explain what your link means. Your link is pretty much an example of cross gen games some third party and some first. Both first and third party games that crossed generation to the ps5 have problems with saves and trophies because sony doesnt have smart delivery they dont care about game preservation as much as microsoft. However the only 2 games that have been an exception as far as i know is cyberpunk and fallen order and the only reason for this is that those 2 games have a built in code that lets the game recognize its a newer console. Any other cross gen game on ps5 will still have the same problem as eso because of sony’s poor implementation of backwards compatibility. Why do you think i can play skyrim at 60 fps and titanfall at 120fps on my series x and not on my ps5? Microsoft cares about backwards compatibility and sony doesnt. But thank you for the link it just backs up my facts.

There is no Cyberpunk ps5 version, do you even know what you're talking about? These saves imported fine for the other games...
Final Fantasy is an mmo that is cross platform, even a new set of trophies for ps5 version, they had old trophies synced. So what exactly is your evidence that this is Sony's fault? Your argument makes no sense.
[snip]

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Elsonso

Sju wrote: »

Okay, keep blaming Sony...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Trophies/comments/mqt9n6

I will.

I don't think you really understand the full impact of that list. That list should not even exist. The term "auto pop" in reference to PS4 to PS5 trophies should not exist. Just the fact that these two things exist highlight the core failure here, and it is not ZOS, Bethesda, or Microsoft.

EDIT: The burden likely falls on ZOS, but my feeling is that the blame falls on Sony.

mikey_reach

Sju wrote: »

mikey_reach wrote: »

Sju wrote: »

mikey_reach wrote: »

Sju wrote: »

mikey_reach wrote: »

Yikes ps needs to be so anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.

It's all Microsoft's doing. Even Doom just got a PS5 version released, no achievements, no saves, no trophies transferred over. Can't blame Sony for this because other games do this, and they are 1st party.

Are you serious you really think this is microsoft’s doing? Let me clarify since you completely missed the mark. This has everything to do with sony and how they are anti consumer when it comes to backwards compat, the reason this happens is because sony doesnt care about past games and the way they see eso is as a past console game so any game that got crossed into the next generation of playstation will have this problem. The only thing that is microsoft’s doing is smart delivery so that xbox players dont have to go through what playstation is currently going through with cross gen games now that is pro consumer. Don’t even get me started on how playstation is the only gaming platform that is against crossplay which would be another fact of how they are less pro consumer.

Okay, keep blaming Sony...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Trophies/comments/mqt9n6

You do realize you just posted an example to my facts right? Let me explain what your link means. Your link is pretty much an example of cross gen games some third party and some first. Both first and third party games that crossed generation to the ps5 have problems with saves and trophies because sony doesnt have smart delivery they dont care about game preservation as much as microsoft. However the only 2 games that have been an exception as far as i know is cyberpunk and fallen order and the only reason for this is that those 2 games have a built in code that lets the game recognize its a newer console. Any other cross gen game on ps5 will still have the same problem as eso because of sony’s poor implementation of backwards compatibility. Why do you think i can play skyrim at 60 fps and titanfall at 120fps on my series x and not on my ps5? Microsoft cares about backwards compatibility and sony doesnt. But thank you for the link it just backs up my facts.

There is no Cyberpunk ps5 version, do you even know what you're talking about? These saves imported fine for the other games...
Final Fantasy is an mmo that is cross platform, even a new set of trophies for ps5 version, they had old trophies synced. So what exactly is your evidence that this is Sony's fault? Your argument makes no sense.
Why are even in here arguing this if you're an xbox player? Guess I've got to report you for trolling too, your comments in other threads are the same anti-Sony/talking up xbox nonsense.

[snip] i never said cyberpunk is a ps5 game you just took it out of context if you grab a ps4 game and play it on a ps5 then that ps4 game crossed generation the difference between fallen order and cyberpunk compared to other games is that those 2 game are coded to recognize the ps5 hardware i do know what im talking about im just trying to educate you on your miss information. [snip]

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lillybit

Regardless of Sony's attitude to backwards compatibility, that list clearly shows that it's possible for game makers to put in the effort to make it work, if they value giving their players the best experience. ZoS chose not too. They may or may not have had good reasons for that decision, but it still comes down to them.

To me, it's just another example of how they don't value long term players. They seem to be gearing more and more towards a high turnover of casuals - I guess if people don't keep playing they don't have to worry about too many people getting radiant apex mounts for free.

Espionage-

Platinum trophy.
100% DLC trophies.
Wasted.

Feels like all the time and effort as been for nothing.

Xx_Santolaya_xX

I already gave my opinion and I still think the same with the official answer. Sony gives companies the ability to share trophies. it's the job of the company that makes the game. platinum.
Example in final fantasy VII intergrade. They gave me another platinum.
With the money and time invested, they treat us like this. Microsoft buys Bethesda. PlayStation users are not interested. so clear. ESO uninstalled

AuraStorm43

Finished jewelry crafting research on a new toon just to see if the trophy unlocked, nope, nothing

This is a complete joke

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Dark_Lord_Kuro

mikey_reach wrote: »

Yikes ps needs to be less anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.

We still have all of our trophy fromps3 and ps4 as it is account base

The problem is that eso is a new trophy set on ps5 so we get eso twice on our trophy list like most crossgen titles
But other games copy trophy over uppon login or after a trigger appen(exemple: killing an ennemy would trigger kill 1000 ennemy)but not eso

So on ps4 im currently only missing the fishing trophy to get platinum but on ps5 im missing them all

gwmayar

AuraStorm43 wrote: »

Finished jewelry crafting research on a new toon just to see if the trophy unlocked, nope, nothing

This is a complete joke

Welcome to club...

In this whole situation, for me the most surprising moment is that the ZOE did not even seem to think about what could happen because of their decision. And at the same time, they also postponed the release on consoles in order to finish what they did not have time to....

mikey_reach

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

mikey_reach wrote: »

Yikes ps needs to be less anti consumer and get with the program like xbox. On my series x i still have xbox 360 achievements because they are account based not console based.

We still have all of our trophy fromps3 and ps4 as it is account base

The problem is that eso is a new trophy set on ps5 so we get eso twice on our trophy list like most crossgen titles
But other games copy trophy over uppon login or after a trigger appen(exemple: killing an ennemy would trigger kill 1000 ennemy)but not eso

So on ps4 im currently only missing the fishing trophy to get platinum but on ps5 im missing them all

I see well i do hope they fix it along with a couple of other things that need to be addressed my main account with 1.8k cp on xbox was able to retain everything so i cant say i feel the pain but i did start playing eso on ps5 and ive been victim of a few bugs xbox doesnt have. Hdr and recording and streaming is way better on the ps5 though which enough for me to enjoy.

AuraStorm43

gwmayar wrote: »

AuraStorm43 wrote: »

Finished jewelry crafting research on a new toon just to see if the trophy unlocked, nope, nothing

This is a complete joke

Welcome to club...

In this whole situation, for me the most surprising moment is that the ZOE did not even seem to think about what could happen because of their decision. And at the same time, they also postponed the release on consoles in order to finish what they did not have time to....

Its not just eso in the bethesda catalog either, doom eternal lacks save file transfers and trophy transfers on its PS5 version, call me crazy but I'm noticing a pattern here

B0SSzombie

Doing a quick look through of this thread, it really feels like the Forum mods are paying more attention to it than the Devs.

Sju

30 days.

kmcaj

Didn't realize get double trophies with Doom eternal as well! Working on double platinum ESO trophies and soon to start the double Doom. Hopefully Bethesda won't break trophies to appease the few who want trophies without playing the game.

PrimusTiberius

Did the xbox upgrade get the Trophies?

lillybit

PrimusTiberius wrote: »

Did the xbox upgrade get the Trophies?

Xbox have the same group of trophies for all versions, it's only playstation that has incompleted (and incompletable) duplicates

AuraStorm43

kmcaj wrote: »

Didn't realize get double trophies with Doom eternal as well! Working on double platinum ESO trophies and soon to start the double Doom. Hopefully Bethesda won't break trophies to appease the few who want trophies without playing the game.

Dude, you realize how much work it is to do all the trophies in ESO? Also most of them don’t unlock properly so gl with your “double platinum” lmao

kmcaj

AuraStorm43 wrote: »

kmcaj wrote: »

Didn't realize get double trophies with Doom eternal as well! Working on double platinum ESO trophies and soon to start the double Doom. Hopefully Bethesda won't break trophies to appease the few who want trophies without playing the game.

Dude, you realize how much work it is to do all the trophies in ESO? Also most of them don’t unlock properly so gl with your “double platinum” lmao

Thank you!

gwmayar

[snip]

Sju wrote: »

30 days.

the wait drags on and we still don't have any information ...
We don't even know whether they are dealing with this issue or not.

[edited for baiting, naming & shaming and discussing disciplinary actions]

Riordan

For me this is a deal breaker. I have canceled my ESP+ because of this.

First I really dislike the systems Sony implemented for the PS5 the upgrade path. For me it looks like a last minute addition after realizing that MS is making the smart delivery. It’s just stupidly implemented.

If there would be a account transfer I would use it immediately and play ESO on my Series X. Like I will play all new 3rd party games on Xbox for the first time since the PS3 gen.

But second there are games like Destiny 2 or all new Ubi games with a trophy/achievement sync even over different platforms. It’s not flawless like the sync between Valhalla PS4 to PS5 is skipping some trophies but it also works both ways from PS5 back to PS4. So this is up to the developers to implement that.

And its up to ZOE to do just that. As mentioned by others it should be very easy due to the ingame trophy log!