Feb 15 Cyrodiil Test Details

Lord_Draevan

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update: We will be activating double AP during this upcoming test. To be clear, the only actions/activities that will result in double AP are capturing and defending Keeps, resources, and outposts, and killing/healing other player characters.

I assume that means PvP quests such as Battlefront or Bounty Board quests won't give double AP?

Lord_Draevan

Me waiting for those juicy 100k+ d-tics that were common during last year's AoE tests

Hexys

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update: We will be activating double AP during this upcoming test. To be clear, the only actions/activities that will result in double AP are capturing and defending Keeps, resources, and outposts, and killing/healing other player characters.

Thank you for making this happen!

ZOS_GinaBruno

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update: We will be activating double AP during this upcoming test. To be clear, the only actions/activities that will result in double AP are capturing and defending Keeps, resources, and outposts, and killing/healing other player characters.

I assume that means PvP quests such as Battlefront or Bounty Board quests won't give double AP?

Correct.

Tommy_The_Gun

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update: We will be activating double AP during this upcoming test. To be clear, the only actions/activities that will result in double AP are capturing and defending Keeps, resources, and outposts, and killing/healing other player characters.

Ok then, Challenge Accepted !

prof_doom

Still might not be enough for people to think it's worth redoing all their builds for pvp.
Just a question of whether they decide to go in with the half-working sets, or just skip it entirely until the testing is done.

Salvas_Aren

why is twice born not on the list?

is that a proc set?

Vevvev

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

why is twice born not on the list?

is that a proc set?

Apparently so since its making a check to see whether you can have both mundus up.

Salvas_Aren

Vevvev wrote: »

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

why is twice born not on the list?

is that a proc set?

Apparently so since its making a check to see whether you can have both mundus up.

Unless all players are checked for 2 mundus stones anyway.

dcmgti

I still feel like population will be low for this test, even with double AP. I know some players will have these sets stowed away in a coffer but I think most will not. Not to mention the prices on these sets are already going up at a quick rate, the amount of transmutes you'll have to spend even if you have the sets collected and the amount of time you'll have to spend farming dungeons only to rely on rng.

Looks like IC will be a busy place again.

Sanctum74

prof_doom wrote: »

Still might not be enough for people to think it's worth redoing all their builds for pvp.
Just a question of whether they decide to go in with the half-working sets, or just skip it entirely until the testing is done.

Most pvp players already have most of those sets and personally I think the no proc test will draw more people in that stopped playing because of the proc sets so I think the population should be fine. Not to mention some people just can’t resist double ap events.

My biggest concern is what kind of message if any will they have in game to alert people and will it have the set list. Many people aren’t on the forums and it would suck for them if they sit through an hour que to find out none of their sets work.

Salvas_Aren

and if cyro is empty, they will count it as a lagfree success

Gilvoth

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update: We will be activating double AP during this upcoming test. To be clear, the only actions/activities that will result in double AP are capturing and defending Keeps, resources, and outposts, and killing/healing other player characters.

please let us have Gold instead of AP.
we need atleast 2 million Gold to buy / farm / Gold out new sets.
including Jewelry.

and no, thats not a joke.
Golding out entire new sets like this costs alot of Gold.
please help us.

ne.ga.kurai_ESO

Gilvoth wrote: »

...please let us have Gold instead of AP....

Hello Matt Firor, former designer / exec producer of DAoC (Dark Age of Camelot). Remember when you added gold drops from killing players in PvP? It wasn't much, but everyone loved it. It was enough to stay stocked on consumables and upgrading armor. It was a great help to people that refused to do PvE regularly.

You should do that.

Beardimus

Is this just PC or all platform test?

ZOS_GinaBruno

Beardimus wrote: »

Is this just PC or all platform test?

This test will be on PC only.

Beaverton

Please confirm that Troll King 1 piece set bonus "adds 4% healing done" will or will not work.

edit: It seems like it shouldn't work but hope springs eternal

FrancisCrawford

FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

LtClungeX wrote: »

Bone pirate isnt a proc or percentage based set Why's this not allowed?

It still has a question that needs answering before it knows what to do.

If its gotta check the server every second to see if I have a drink buff active a monkey coded it.

The original developers were NOT good at data structures, I would guess.

https://www.dbms2.com/2014/04/16/the-worst-database-developers-in-the-world/

marius_buys

SHORT SUMMARY of NEW PVP TEST (15 Feb - 8 March)
Edited to enable clear-speak.

On February 15th, we will be disabling Item Set bonuses outside of pure stat gains in PC Cyrodiil.
This means any item set which has a proc, or condition which is driven by an ability, will have that ability disabled.

This includes Item Sets like Seducer, as that set reduces Magicka cost abilities by 10%. That reduction of cost is done via an ability, which has to check anytime you cast an ability if it’s cost should be reduced.

The full list of Sets which are not affected by this test:
Amber Plasm
Armor of the Trainee
Beekeeper’s Gear
Crafty Alfiq
Draugr Hulk
Endurance
Fortified Brass
Grace of the Ancients
Hunding’s Rage
Impregnable Armor
Law of Julianos
Leviathan
Mother’s Sorrow
Plague Doctor
Spinner’s Garments
Spriggan’s Thorns
Willpower
Agility

Updates:
- We are planning for this test to run for at least 3 weeks
- Jewelry traits will not be affected during this test.
- Any sets that are just stats will work, and you can still equip the items. This includes one-piece Monster sets.
- You may wear proc sets but you will only get the 2, 3 and 4 piece set bonuses from eg. NMA
- You will get double AP will be active for capturing and defending keeps, resources, and outposts, and killing/healing other player characters.
- PvP quests such as Bounty Board quests won't give double AP
- Players will be able to cast abilities on allies and will not be restricted to group targets only. Abilities which target/can be triggered by players outside of your group will once again function as they do outside of Cyrodiil.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Is this just PC or all platform test?

This test will be on PC only.

@ZOS_GinaBruno thank you (and the team) for keeping up the communication with this, its appreciated

Damd

I'm very excited for this test. Three weeks of skill based play sounds awesome.

Merforum

[Snip]. I think we have seen from that last several events that adding more servers and having more instances to enter eliminates most of the lag.

Hopefully this will never be implemented in BGs. Instead of constantly nerfing stuff in a ridiculous effort to make everything 'balanced' across trials, dungeons, BGs, cyro etc, they should just create separate ways to play. For instance, if too many people are using 'Dead Water' in Trial don't nerf it into oblivion, just make it not useable in trials.

And why cant they have separate BGs for deathmatch only, BGs/cyro for no proc sets, or with any sets, just allow different options/instances so people can play the way they want with other who want to play that way.

[Edited for bait]

Jaraal

Looks like a great time to play in Imperial City and Battlegrounds!

ZOS isn't going to remove proc sets, which are some of the biggest selling points of new content. So, I guess if you don't already have millions upon millions saved up and actually need the AP...... enjoy!

Jaraal

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update: We will be activating double AP during this upcoming test. To be clear, the only actions/activities that will result in double AP are capturing and defending Keeps, resources, and outposts, and killing/healing other player characters.

Should be a lot easier to capture keeps with unrepaired doors and walls, clever strategy!

Qbiken

A bit of a let down that these tests doesn't apply to battlegrounds and Imperial City, but I guess we can't have it all

Anony_Mouse

@ZOS_GinaBruno Would you be able to confirm whether stats like 4% healing done will work? Healers would like to know

Thank you

thatESOdude

Can we extend those test at least till summer chapter release and also to IC and BGs?

Jaraal

Anony_Mouse wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Would you be able to confirm whether stats like 4% healing done will work? Healers would like to know

Thank you

Healer's Habit (constant Minor Mending (+8%) and +5% to healing done) isn't on the approved list. Neither are Senche Raht's Grit or Naga Shaman (+4% to healing done), so I'd say that's a no.


OTOH, they did say 1pc monster sets like Rkugamz, Troll King, and Earthgore (+4% to healing done) would work, so who really knows?

Tommy_The_Gun

I just realized something. Just look at the list of non-proc (non condition check) sets, and how short it is. Almost all of those sets are base-game sets, dating back to 2014 - 2015. Newest one I think is Crafty Alfiq, but even this set is almost 2 years old.

So pretty much all sets, added every year - were all proc sets (or at least sets with condition check).

So what if... what if, the down-hill performance, primarily in pvp, but also in other parts of the game are a result of more players (globally) using proc sets ? I mean all of those additional checks, that server has to perform, multiplied by the amount of players in EVERY part of the game (pvp, pve, overland, trials) at the same time...

Makes sense to me, I would not be surprised if this was the case.

So... Stamina Amber Plasm next update ?

thatESOdude

Jaraal wrote: »

Anony_Mouse wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Would you be able to confirm whether stats like 4% healing done will work? Healers would like to know

Thank you

Healer's Habit (constant Minor Mending (+8%) and +5% to healing done) isn't on the approved list. Neither are Senche Raht's Grit or Naga Shaman (+4% to healing done), so I'd say that's a no.


OTOH, they did say 1pc monster sets like Rkugamz, Troll King, and Earthgore (+4% to healing done) would work, so who really knows?

No, they said 1 piece monster sets with flat stats... armor, pen, mag/stam/health/wpn-sp dmg will work... not % one pieces