Are you buying Greymoor

Jaraal · May 19

Cireous wrote: »

I just wish they would have taken the time to unlock more doors in the Overland.

Yeah, that's the second thing I noticed while poking around the zone on the PTS. Half the doors chained and padlocked like in Elsweyr. Especially disappointing for a professional thief like me.

Sailor_Palutena · May 19

Yes I am I enjoy ESO

thissocalledflower wrote: »

No i am NOT buying it. Also, since i am once again closing in on 810... 803 ish) I may decide to delete my account and find something else to play OR if i do continue play it will be focusing on the guild and crafting tables and such as that and def NOT on greymoor, and most certainly not their minesweeper mini game.

Wouldn't it be cool if they set the new cap of Champion Points to 900 just to make you play for longer?

I'm going to buy it. An expansion (nowadays) is only good during its first months of release. You don't see many people hunting dragons anymore in Elsweyr, or adventuring around in Murkmire. Those days are long gone. Now people are just doing Vanilla, Morrowind, Cyrodiil or Summerset (best zones to play).

YandereGirlfriend · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

I wanted to (obviously love Skyrim) but I just can't. Not right now and not with the game like this.

The new zones look nice (the art and environment team always does a fantastic job) but I can't PvP (my favorite activity) with this performance and none of the new trial sets are worth farming.

But more fundamentally, it doesn't feel good to pay for something and to be treated in this way. It's like buying a beautiful ice cream cone only to take a bite and find out that it's filled with gravel. After several cones have been purchased, the shame is now on me for continuing to buy more.

Anecdotally, my PvP guild is now exploring other games to play and in another guild we are playing Civilization tonight instead of raiding. Morale, among those that I know, is quite low. On the verge of a new expansion in a fan-favorite zone, this should not be the case.

Kiralyn2000 · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

Jaxious79 wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

The question was "Are you buying Greymoor". 50% answered "No, I'm waiting to see how it plays out" and another 6% answered "Heck no (etc.)" Both are still a no to the original question. I do know that a forum poll is hardly representative of the entire player base, but it still seems expressive that more than half the community that gathers around the forums (or rather, that answered the poll) are careful to commit to the next chapter.

It is a representive of the more dedicated players tbh. As Martini said, most of us were paying customers. What drove me to buy previous chapters is trialing with friends. So if trials don't work, why?

The forums are not a representation of the more dedicated player LMAO! That is probably the funniest comment on this thread.

Every single mmorpg forum is filled with negative, toxic complainers and this is no different. The same 20 or 30 jump from thread to thread stirring up their base and bashing a video game with the same talking points year after year. There is nothing new its the same people with the same complaints with a twist here and there.

Yes, and that's an example of their "dedication". The average player doesn't have such strong opinions, and doesn't bother coming to the forums. Forum regulars, both positive and negative, are generally the more motivated, more ardent, more opinionated "fans".

They are not representative of the general playerbase.

LeHarrt91 · May 19

Yes I am I enjoy ESO

With a heavy heart yes i am. While i love this game and do enjoy new zones etc, i mainly pvp and in the games current state i unfortunately cannot without causing myself severe frustration.

craybest · May 19

Yes I am I enjoy ESO

Yeah I will, maybe not right away, or wait till it's on sale or something. But from the newer episodes this is the one that has interested me the most. Love the darker mood it has.

Jaxious79 · May 19

Yes I am I enjoy ESO

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Jaxious79 wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

The question was "Are you buying Greymoor". 50% answered "No, I'm waiting to see how it plays out" and another 6% answered "Heck no (etc.)" Both are still a no to the original question. I do know that a forum poll is hardly representative of the entire player base, but it still seems expressive that more than half the community that gathers around the forums (or rather, that answered the poll) are careful to commit to the next chapter.

It is a representive of the more dedicated players tbh. As Martini said, most of us were paying customers. What drove me to buy previous chapters is trialing with friends. So if trials don't work, why?

The forums are not a representation of the more dedicated player LMAO! That is probably the funniest comment on this thread.

Every single mmorpg forum is filled with negative, toxic complainers and this is no different. The same 20 or 30 jump from thread to thread stirring up their base and bashing a video game with the same talking points year after year. There is nothing new its the same people with the same complaints with a twist here and there.

Yes, and that's an example of their "dedication". The average player doesn't have such strong opinions, and doesn't bother coming to the forums. Forum regulars, both positive and negative, are generally the more motivated, more ardent, more opinionated "fans".

They are not representative of the general playerbase.

100,000s people play this game some for 1000s of hours and you think 20 to 30 people who spend hours a day complaining and giving each other upvotes on the forums are the "dedicated" ones.

The average players is very aware how toxic and negative game forums are and has no desire waste their time in such a toxic pit of negativity.

zvavi · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

Jaxious79 wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Jaxious79 wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

The question was "Are you buying Greymoor". 50% answered "No, I'm waiting to see how it plays out" and another 6% answered "Heck no (etc.)" Both are still a no to the original question. I do know that a forum poll is hardly representative of the entire player base, but it still seems expressive that more than half the community that gathers around the forums (or rather, that answered the poll) are careful to commit to the next chapter.

It is a representive of the more dedicated players tbh. As Martini said, most of us were paying customers. What drove me to buy previous chapters is trialing with friends. So if trials don't work, why?

The forums are not a representation of the more dedicated player LMAO! That is probably the funniest comment on this thread.

Every single mmorpg forum is filled with negative, toxic complainers and this is no different. The same 20 or 30 jump from thread to thread stirring up their base and bashing a video game with the same talking points year after year. There is nothing new its the same people with the same complaints with a twist here and there.

Yes, and that's an example of their "dedication". The average player doesn't have such strong opinions, and doesn't bother coming to the forums. Forum regulars, both positive and negative, are generally the more motivated, more ardent, more opinionated "fans".

They are not representative of the general playerbase.

100,000s people play this game some for 1000s of hours and you think 20 to 30 people who spend hours a day complaining and giving each other upvotes on the forums are the "dedicated" ones.

The average players is very aware how toxic and negative game forums are and has no desire waste their time in such a toxic pit of negativity.

It is what you make of it :shrug: I try to be informative and help balance discussions, many times I also help answering general questions. If I come out as toxic, I apologise, not my intention. I just said what I saw, many forum users that love the game, but it makes them sad.

Dojohoda · May 19

Yes I am I enjoy ESO

I want to play the new content and try out the new toys.

BuT, it looks like I'm going to need new master weapons and any vma weapons that are worth the effort.

goldbond2000 · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

Honestly I pre-ordered it before the last patch and I wish I hadn't. It's not really good feedback for ZOS to have a bump in numbers right now from all the people off work bc the game is not performing well. The only feedback we can give them that they'll listen to at this point is to stop playing the game.

MartiniDaniels · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

Jaxious79 wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Jaxious79 wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

The question was "Are you buying Greymoor". 50% answered "No, I'm waiting to see how it plays out" and another 6% answered "Heck no (etc.)" Both are still a no to the original question. I do know that a forum poll is hardly representative of the entire player base, but it still seems expressive that more than half the community that gathers around the forums (or rather, that answered the poll) are careful to commit to the next chapter.

It is a representive of the more dedicated players tbh. As Martini said, most of us were paying customers. What drove me to buy previous chapters is trialing with friends. So if trials don't work, why?

The forums are not a representation of the more dedicated player LMAO! That is probably the funniest comment on this thread.

Every single mmorpg forum is filled with negative, toxic complainers and this is no different. The same 20 or 30 jump from thread to thread stirring up their base and bashing a video game with the same talking points year after year. There is nothing new its the same people with the same complaints with a twist here and there.

Yes, and that's an example of their "dedication". The average player doesn't have such strong opinions, and doesn't bother coming to the forums. Forum regulars, both positive and negative, are generally the more motivated, more ardent, more opinionated "fans".

They are not representative of the general playerbase.

100,000s people play this game some for 1000s of hours and you think 20 to 30 people who spend hours a day complaining and giving each other upvotes on the forums are the "dedicated" ones.

The average players is very aware how toxic and negative game forums are and has no desire waste their time in such a toxic pit of negativity.

Every time game hangs in loading screen or character selection or stuck in combat, we alt-tab here to share our opinion - that's all

plz fix the game, and this forum will be much more positive.
Like one forum member said on PTS - before 2020, players were arguing with each other (sorcs vs NBs, PVP vs PVE, dps vs tanks etc), but now it's players vs ZOS. Because bad performance impacts everyone. When you can't load into your house without waiting for god knows how long and when you can't receive mail and when you can't place goods on sale or buy something from guild traders because interface hangs and you need to cancel&reloadui and try again... how this makes new chapter desirable to buy - I don't know.

Strider__Roshin · May 19

Heck no the sky is falling and I'm done and you wont see or hear me ever (well until the next forum freakout)

Nah. Not unless they remove cast times from Ultimates. Won't bother playing until then.

Elsonso · May 19

Yes I am I enjoy ESO

Jaraal wrote: »

Cireous wrote: »

I just wish they would have taken the time to unlock more doors in the Overland.

Yeah, that's the second thing I noticed while poking around the zone on the PTS. Half the doors chained and padlocked like in Elsweyr. Especially disappointing for a professional thief like me.

I wish that ZOS would stop doing that. They lay out this wonderful world, and then they don't finish it.

tinythinker · May 19

Why the qualifiers?

Anyway, pre-ordered a while ago.

Coggo · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

At this point I'm simply here for friends and Guildees. I'm on the other side of burnout with the game in a zen like state of peace. Chiefly, I'm at peace with the understanding ZOS will never address Cyrodil's shocking performance (especially for us Oceanic players). I've no more flips left to give and will close the door on ESO when the last of my excellent Guildees exits and joins the exodus to pastures new.

SeaGtGruff · May 19

Yes I am I enjoy ESO

thissocalledflower wrote: »

I dont own the game just here for the forums.

^^^ is not a fair option because you cant get to the forums without owning the game.

Well, technically it's at least half fair, because there are people on this forum who have stated that they used to love the game, but as of a year ago or longer they've cancelled their ESO Plus subscriptions and deleted the game off of their hard drives, yet they're still here in the forums bashing away at ZOS and the devs and the mods.

Danikat · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

I'm not "waiting to see how it plays out", I'm not sure what that means, but this was the only option for not pre-ordering it which wasn't just trolling.

I'm expecting to buy Greymoor at some point but since there's nothing to it but the new map and story (and of course new items to find), no additional features to justify calling it a chapter and charging more than a normal DLC there's nothing to make me feel like I need it now. Instead I'll wait until I'm ready for more content to play and/or it's discounted (so probably in about 3-6 months) and then buy it.

I'm a bit disappointed that this is becoming the norm for me. When Morrowind came out I pre-ordered the collectors edition because I really wanted to play a warden. Summerset and Elseweyr were much more interesting settings to me, but jeweller and necromancer didn't have nearly as much appeal so I could wait until it was cheaper. Now we've got a chapter that's leaning very heavily on the nostalgia factor like Morrowind did, but for a much more recent game, promising nothing but a year of gloomy content and nothing else to sell it. Pretty much the only reason I'm expecting to buy it at all is because at some point I'll run out of stuff to do without it.

Dusk_Coven · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

I like to give them a year to shake out the bugs.
That said, I think the first Murkmire quest where the girl climbs out of the pit still has her going too far and walking on air above my head.

Integral1900 · May 19

Yes I am I enjoy ESO

Collectors edition pre order (not the physical as I’ve got enough dust magnets 🧲)

Looking forward to
1: Lyris Titanborn
2: Black Reach, my favourite zone in any game
3: Skyrim and everything that comes with it
4: Archeology and lore! Hell yes! Oh and the loot even though I have no intention on grinding those mythic items
5: More great stories
6: More motifs
7: Lyris Titanborn 🤩 (she reminds me of my wife... and yes I am that lucky, I suppose it also explains why my in game item drops are so bad, I used up all my life times good luck already 😍)

Not looking forward to...

1: Vet content because listening to other people argue about the latest set of one shot mechanics gets boring real fast
2: PVP because while I’m fairly good at it I just don’t enjoy it, never have in any games. Only do it here for the 2 skill points
3: Vampires, not because of the abilities which I must admit look fun, but because the skin texture looks absolutely rubbish

Ragnaroek93 · May 19

I dont own the game just here for the forums.

I haven't played since Dragonhold tbh. The game is such a let down since a year, everything is just getting worse.

vesselwiththepestle · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

No, I did not buy it, which might be a problem with my pve raids and keeping up in the pvp meta.

I might buy it if performance were to improve dramatically or ZOS were to add increased inventory/bank space.

I haven't played through Elswhere and Dragonhold, yet, and it might take a while now too with having to re-grind vDSA and vMA again.

SmukkeHeks · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

Waiting. Am not holding my breath

Tammany · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

Not gonna touch it and resub eso plus untilll major performance improvements.

Thoragaal · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

9/10 of the people answering "No I am waiting to see how it plays out" (including myself) will buy it eventually either way.
Maybe not straight away, but it'll happen no matter what just to have something new to do.

Uryel · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

No, but none of the answers fit my situation.

I'm not convinced by yet another "chapter" that is merely a glorified DLC, scrying is uninteresting... I'll buy it later, most likely, when the price has dropped. I'm not even done with Elsweyr yet, anyway.

Ysbriel · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

Not satisfied with the performance of the game at all. No need to articulate since there are years worth of performance complaints in this forum.

Iluvrien · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

zvavi wrote: »

Many people didn't change, you just see the backlash of bad performance.

Some people did change.

In the early days of ESO I was an ardent defender of ZOS and extremely excited about everything that was coming over the horizon. I watched every ESO live. I came to the forums (primarily Crafting) to discuss new experiences, new ideas, and new systems. I avidly talked about all the fun that I was having in the game.

The ZOS started making changes: B2P, the Crown Store, Crown Crates, devaluing crafting, making systems grindier to encourage store purchases (e.g. motifs), moving mounts and other cosmetic items into the cash shop, crown store exclusives, lawyering their way into putting pre-order bonuses into the cash shop, divorcing outfit styles from motifs, not making everything in the game able to be earned in the game, introducing small-population attributes into the general population (vampires, werewolves, necromancers)... I could go on. I have in other threads.

The forums didn't just magically become a less positive place. At least for me, I became less positive here as a direct result of decisions made by ZOS. I continue to play because my enjoyment of certain aspects of the game is greater than my dislike of other aspects. Eventually that balance will probably shift, and I will stop playing. That hasn't happened yet.

In the mean time, I will continue to challenge ZOS when I think they are making a call that will lead to me enjoying the game less.

I'm not buying Greymoor yet because, quite frankly, I'm Norded out. They are my least favourite culture in ESO. And I say that as someone who played the heck out of Skyrim. Of course I was a Morrowind fan first, so Skyrim was always going to be a pale reflection of that. And then the climactic zones in my own alliance (pre-OT) were Nord. Gnah.

I might pick up Greymoor at some point, but because of its thematic content it'll be a while.

LatinoShaman59 · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

I think i can speak for alot of players that voted NO, we are ESO enthousiasts, and what others would consider bitterness, we call frustration.

ESO always had great potential, but the decisions made are worse every time. the unawareness, the silence of the team...those attitudes are shameful.

If you dare speak out on twitch, banned. If you speak out on forums, moderation just cuts off things. ESO has been dragging along all these years several problems that have not been resolved.This behaviour is unacceptable

And let's also mention how hard it is to motivate a guild to raid in current conditions, when you can't perform properly because there are so many issues of desync.

Its endemic to several video game companies, Zenimax included, to not set CORRECT priorities straight. How can you seriously buy a new DLC when the base game is left in shambles?

Sadly, our only way to make a point is hurting the pockets.

I am miles away from putting money on Greymoor.

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kylewwefan · May 19

YES I am and so is everyone I know

Probably only buying it for PS4 though. I’ve quickly fallen out of Love with playing on computer.

5cript · May 19

No I am waiting to see how it plays out

My stance is: Hell no, never enjoyed ESO less.
Reality is: Will probably get it eventually. Unless they *** something drastic up again in Greymoor affecting combat.
(honestly the *** up might be mythic items coming to bgs)

I remember how hyped I was about Elsweyr, its sad.