paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »khajiitNPC wrote: »No. I will not be buying it until they fix what they broke.
If you think only 54% of people on these forums voting "no" (majority leaving open the possibility of buying it) is a win for you you are sadly mistaken.
These forums are filled with 80-90% negativity yet you can only muster 50%.
You do realize you got a whopping 150 votes right? There are 100,000s playing this game that will never step foot in these toxic forums. So not sure what other mmorpgs you are playing but based on population vs other mmos yeah they are doing just fine.
You are the vocal minority and that's all.
You say that, yet, there are tons of "white knight's" posting nonsense like this?
There are 100,000s playing this game that will never step foot in these toxic forums.
paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »khajiitNPC wrote: »No. I will not be buying it until they fix what they broke.
If you think only 54% of people on these forums voting "no" (majority leaving open the possibility of buying it) is a win for you you are sadly mistaken.
These forums are filled with 80-90% negativity yet you can only muster 50%.
You do realize you got a whopping 150 votes right? There are 100,000s playing this game that will never step foot in these toxic forums. So not sure what other mmorpgs you are playing but based on population vs other mmos yeah they are doing just fine.
You are the vocal minority and that's all.
You say that, yet, there are tons of "white knight's" posting nonsense like this?
Sylvermynx wrote: »@Jaxious79 - it's obvious you have an agenda. Which makes your entire thread a total loss.
There are 100,000s playing this game that will never step foot in these toxic forums.
Conversely, there are 100,000s playing who never set foot in these toxic forums.... but will simply say to themselves, "Wow, this performance sucks and is only getting worse with time", and log out, walk away, and never look back.
Sylvermynx wrote: »@Jaxious79 - it's obvious you have an agenda. Which makes your entire thread a total loss.
No agenda and I'm not sorry you never made a thread that got traction. It's amazing how so many of you "without an agenda" are so worked up over this thread you just cant stay away.
paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »khajiitNPC wrote: »No. I will not be buying it until they fix what they broke.
If you think only 54% of people on these forums voting "no" (majority leaving open the possibility of buying it) is a win for you you are sadly mistaken.
These forums are filled with 80-90% negativity yet you can only muster 50%.
You do realize you got a whopping 150 votes right? There are 100,000s playing this game that will never step foot in these toxic forums. So not sure what other mmorpgs you are playing but based on population vs other mmos yeah they are doing just fine.
You are the vocal minority and that's all.
You say that, yet, there are tons of "white knight's" posting nonsense like this?
Well for starters your comment of "There are 100,000s playing this game that will never step foot in these toxic forums. So not sure what other mmorpgs you are playing but based on population vs other mmos yeah they are doing just fine.", as of January 21st, 2020 the total number of accounts *CREATED*, not playing, not subscribed, just created, has reached a whopping 15 million, that also includes their "free to play" period on Steam.
Well if we compared that to the most successful MMORPG, World of Warcraft, as of 2014 (6 years ago), they had over 100 million accounts... So yeah, in the scheme of things your point is completely invalid. ESO is just bleep on that radar. But sure, WoW is the one everyone is trying to be.
Let's look at some other titles:
FF14 had over 14 million accounts as of 2019 (over a year ago), and they have absolutely NO issues with server latency, lag, responses to changes etc.
Guild Wars 2 had over 12 million accounts as of 2012 (over 8 years ago), again absolutely no issues with server latency, lag, responses to changes etc.
Black Desert Online had over 10 million accounts as of 2018, oh wait, that's oddly similar to ESO, I wonder how their forums are, in my experience awfully similar to ESO's, ie, no acknowledgement to complaints, concerns, suggestions etc... Hmm..
Alright moving on, your argument of "These forums are filled with 80-90% negativity yet you can only muster 50%.", that in itself is absolutely false, you can look at the topics themselves to clearly see not every post is a negative one, in fact the forum moderators prevent duplication of posts/topics, so that in itself clearly shows how wrong you are. So yeah, when an overwhelming number of people decide to respond negatively it's due to their dissatisfaction of what is being presented to them.
But by all means, keep "white knighting", i'm sure it helps you sleep at night
paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »khajiitNPC wrote: »No. I will not be buying it until they fix what they broke.
If you think only 54% of people on these forums voting "no" (majority leaving open the possibility of buying it) is a win for you you are sadly mistaken.
These forums are filled with 80-90% negativity yet you can only muster 50%.
You do realize you got a whopping 150 votes right? There are 100,000s playing this game that will never step foot in these toxic forums. So not sure what other mmorpgs you are playing but based on population vs other mmos yeah they are doing just fine.
You are the vocal minority and that's all.
You say that, yet, there are tons of "white knight's" posting nonsense like this?
Well for starters your comment of "There are 100,000s playing this game that will never step foot in these toxic forums. So not sure what other mmorpgs you are playing but based on population vs other mmos yeah they are doing just fine.", as of January 21st, 2020 the total number of accounts *CREATED*, not playing, not subscribed, just created, has reached a whopping 15 million, that also includes their "free to play" period on Steam.
Well if we compared that to the most successful MMORPG, World of Warcraft, as of 2014 (6 years ago), they had over 100 million accounts... So yeah, in the scheme of things your point is completely invalid. ESO is just bleep on that radar. But sure, WoW is the one everyone is trying to be.
Let's look at some other titles:
FF14 had over 14 million accounts as of 2019 (over a year ago), and they have absolutely NO issues with server latency, lag, responses to changes etc.
Guild Wars 2 had over 12 million accounts as of 2012 (over 8 years ago), again absolutely no issues with server latency, lag, responses to changes etc.
Black Desert Online had over 10 million accounts as of 2018, oh wait, that's oddly similar to ESO, I wonder how their forums are, in my experience awfully similar to ESO's, ie, no acknowledgement to complaints, concerns, suggestions etc... Hmm..
Alright moving on, your argument of "These forums are filled with 80-90% negativity yet you can only muster 50%.", that in itself is absolutely false, you can look at the topics themselves to clearly see not every post is a negative one, in fact the forum moderators prevent duplication of posts/topics, so that in itself clearly shows how wrong you are. So yeah, when an overwhelming number of people decide to respond negatively it's due to their dissatisfaction of what is being presented to them.
But by all means, keep "white knighting", i'm sure it helps you sleep at night
Yeah go look and see how many positive threads get derailed by you guys. I mean a guy makes a thread about how awesome the game looks in 8k and the moderator have to step in and remove post because you guys are so damn toxic. So yes 80-90%.
almightyalfo wrote: »I already pre-ordered the digital collectors edition.
Even though I has an insane amount of flaws, I still love this game and I still enjoy playing it.
paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »khajiitNPC wrote: »No. I will not be buying it until they fix what they broke.
If you think only 54% of people on these forums voting "no" (majority leaving open the possibility of buying it) is a win for you you are sadly mistaken.
These forums are filled with 80-90% negativity yet you can only muster 50%.
You do realize you got a whopping 150 votes right? There are 100,000s playing this game that will never step foot in these toxic forums. So not sure what other mmorpgs you are playing but based on population vs other mmos yeah they are doing just fine.
You are the vocal minority and that's all.
You say that, yet, there are tons of "white knight's" posting nonsense like this?
Well for starters your comment of "There are 100,000s playing this game that will never step foot in these toxic forums. So not sure what other mmorpgs you are playing but based on population vs other mmos yeah they are doing just fine.", as of January 21st, 2020 the total number of accounts *CREATED*, not playing, not subscribed, just created, has reached a whopping 15 million, that also includes their "free to play" period on Steam.
Well if we compared that to the most successful MMORPG, World of Warcraft, as of 2014 (6 years ago), they had over 100 million accounts... So yeah, in the scheme of things your point is completely invalid. ESO is just bleep on that radar. But sure, WoW is the one everyone is trying to be.
Let's look at some other titles:
FF14 had over 14 million accounts as of 2019 (over a year ago), and they have absolutely NO issues with server latency, lag, responses to changes etc.
Guild Wars 2 had over 12 million accounts as of 2012 (over 8 years ago), again absolutely no issues with server latency, lag, responses to changes etc.
Black Desert Online had over 10 million accounts as of 2018, oh wait, that's oddly similar to ESO, I wonder how their forums are, in my experience awfully similar to ESO's, ie, no acknowledgement to complaints, concerns, suggestions etc... Hmm..
Alright moving on, your argument of "These forums are filled with 80-90% negativity yet you can only muster 50%.", that in itself is absolutely false, you can look at the topics themselves to clearly see not every post is a negative one, in fact the forum moderators prevent duplication of posts/topics, so that in itself clearly shows how wrong you are. So yeah, when an overwhelming number of people decide to respond negatively it's due to their dissatisfaction of what is being presented to them.
But by all means, keep "white knighting", i'm sure it helps you sleep at night
Yeah go look and see how many positive threads get derailed by you guys. I mean a guy makes a thread about how awesome the game looks in 8k and the moderator have to step in and remove post because you guys are so damn toxic. So yes 80-90%.
I do believe you accidentally started a fire you cannot control with this post.
3+MILLION PLAYERS and you got 150 votes and you think that's a fire? Too funny.
https://altarofgaming.com/all-mmos-sorted-by-population-2018/
paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »3+MILLION PLAYERS and you got 150 votes and you think that's a fire? Too funny.
https://altarofgaming.com/all-mmos-sorted-by-population-2018/
I'm just curious what your thought is regarding this... I'm willing to bet a lot of those players are new and/or returning players for the expansion releasing next week, what do you think will happen when these players try to run a "Trial", "Battlegrounds" and or venture into "Cyrodiil". Do you think they will be satisfied with the current server performance, lag, latency etc? Do you think they will continue to play long after experiencing what is currently going on? How many of those players are currently putting up with these issues waiting to play the "story" part of the expansion with the intent of quitting soon there after due to these latency issues?
Again, i'm just curious what your opinion is?
paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »3+MILLION PLAYERS and you got 150 votes and you think that's a fire? Too funny.
https://altarofgaming.com/all-mmos-sorted-by-population-2018/
I'm just curious what your thought is regarding this... I'm willing to bet a lot of those players are new and/or returning players for the expansion releasing next week, what do you think will happen when these players try to run a "Trial", "Battlegrounds" and or venture into "Cyrodiil". Do you think they will be satisfied with the current server performance, lag, latency etc? Do you think they will continue to play long after experiencing what is currently going on? How many of those players are currently putting up with these issues waiting to play the "story" part of the expansion with the intent of quitting soon there after due to these latency issues?
Again, i'm just curious what your opinion is?
The thing is I've played enough mmorpgs to know how things work. Have I defended the game at all in my post? Nope I havent all I've said is you guys are so over the top and this game isnt going anywhere.
Does it have issue? Yep just like every other mmorpg.
Are these issues going to kill the game today? Tomorrow ? 5 years down the road? Nope
Even with the issues is this one of the better mmorpgs out today? Outside of these forums I would say a good amount of mmorpg players would say yes it's one of the better ones out today. Best? Probably not.
I'm just curious how long have you been screaming the game is dead and everyone is leaving? Every mmorpg forum has people like this for years they claim the game is dead or dying and they stick around for years hoping one day it does close just so they can say I told you so. Is that you?
Sylvermynx wrote: »@Jaxious79 - it's obvious you have an agenda. Which makes your entire thread a total loss.
No agenda and I'm not sorry you never made a thread that got traction. It's amazing how so many of you "without an agenda" are so worked up over this thread you just cant stay away.
paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »3+MILLION PLAYERS and you got 150 votes and you think that's a fire? Too funny.
https://altarofgaming.com/all-mmos-sorted-by-population-2018/
I'm just curious what your thought is regarding this... I'm willing to bet a lot of those players are new and/or returning players for the expansion releasing next week, what do you think will happen when these players try to run a "Trial", "Battlegrounds" and or venture into "Cyrodiil". Do you think they will be satisfied with the current server performance, lag, latency etc? Do you think they will continue to play long after experiencing what is currently going on? How many of those players are currently putting up with these issues waiting to play the "story" part of the expansion with the intent of quitting soon there after due to these latency issues?
Again, i'm just curious what your opinion is?
The thing is I've played enough mmorpgs to know how things work. Have I defended the game at all in my post? Nope I havent all I've said is you guys are so over the top and this game isnt going anywhere.
Does it have issue? Yep just like every other mmorpg.
Are these issues going to kill the game today? Tomorrow ? 5 years down the road? Nope
Even with the issues is this one of the better mmorpgs out today? Outside of these forums I would say a good amount of mmorpg players would say yes it's one of the better ones out today. Best? Probably not.
I'm just curious how long have you been screaming the game is dead and everyone is leaving? Every mmorpg forum has people like this for years they claim the game is dead or dying and they stick around for years hoping one day it does close just so they can say I told you so. Is that you?
khajiitNPC wrote: »No. I will not be buying it until they fix what they broke.
If you think only 54% of people on these forums voting "no" (majority leaving open the possibility of buying it) is a win for you you are sadly mistaken.
These forums are filled with 80-90% negativity yet you can only muster 50%.
You do realize you got a whopping 150 votes right? There are 100,000s playing this game that will never step foot in these toxic forums. So not sure what other mmorpgs you are playing but based on population vs other mmos yeah they are doing just fine.
You are the vocal minority and that's all.