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Oh Zeni, Zeni, Zeni, we can't loot Murkmire bosses because...

  • Linaleah
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    dazee wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you be able to loot if you are part of the groups that kill the WB? It's no different than the new Elsweyr zones those spawn times are super long IMO.

    new elsweyr zones do not limit loot to 12 people.

    and when we had Elsweyr event - getting tickets was NOT a... chance drop. it was guaranteed drop. so not the same at all


    this event is a mess TBH. what i would suggest to minimize the messiness, personaly is - kill random outdoor trash until you get tickets and gold box, and THEN kill bosses for quests or whatever.

    wait.. some zones have a 12 person cap on who can get loot? I'd like to meet the idiot who thought of that idea.

    not some. most. yep. fun, right?
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  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    I killed one Wamasu, on my own, and that is all. I got the three tickets and the box.
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  • arun_rajputb16_ESO
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    Royaji wrote: »
    dazee wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you be able to loot if you are part of the groups that kill the WB? It's no different than the new Elsweyr zones those spawn times are super long IMO.

    new elsweyr zones do not limit loot to 12 people.

    and when we had Elsweyr event - getting tickets was NOT a... chance drop. it was guaranteed drop. so not the same at all


    this event is a mess TBH. what i would suggest to minimize the messiness, personaly is - kill random outdoor trash until you get tickets and gold box, and THEN kill bosses for quests or whatever.

    wait.. some zones have a 12 person cap on who can get loot? I'd like to meet the idiot who thought of that idea.

    I believe all of them do. Unless they did change something specifically for dragons in Elsweyr.
    idk wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you be able to loot if you are part of the groups that kill the WB? It's no different than the new Elsweyr zones those spawn times are super long IMO.

    The pretty sure OP is talking about the cap on how many players get loot. iirc it is 12 players. So if 30 players are waiting for the boss to spawn then less than half will actually get loot.

    Uugh I had no idea, do you mean to say there is a 12 player cap on WB's for this event or is it just tickets but you get the normal WB loot or nothing at all?

    The cap is on loot in general. If you are not among top 12 damage contributors the body will not even be loot-able.

    Damage has nothing to do with it.

    On my 0.8% damage run, I got a drop.
  • Toanis
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    Didn't get loot from the WB, smacked a random salamander out of frustration. Got 3 tickets and a chest. :D
  • mikikatze
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    I'm so glad the Impressaria has "nothing" to offer this time since I don't need another Indrik... :#
  • Hallothiel
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    Went to kill miregaunt boss - got kill but no tickets. Not surprising as only hit it once 😂

    Stepped outside his area. 3 bog whatsits. Killed them. Got tickets.

    Much simpler & less hanging around.
  • freespirit
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    Just wander around on your own, I got my box and tickets within 5 mins...…… from a Hoarver :) (PC-EU)
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  • Granicus
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    Yep, FAIL. Killed the WB (one of only two in this small zone) several times and got zero loot. And ZoS, please don’t tell us to just go somewhere else. Any and all of the events/entities you said would drop loot should, for everyone. Poorly designed as it was poorly planned and communicated. The zone is too small for an event like this. Where’s the next big event, Stros M’Kai? Remove the cap on loot!

    Perhaps things will settle down after the first day but so far this is just a waste of time ...
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  • Hapexamendios
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    Killed a Miregrunt doing a quest for Tuwul. Got tickets, strongbox and quest done in 5 minutes.
  • Cundu_Ertur
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    I got tix from a wamasu or something. Not even a boss. Just kill stuff and loot.
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Got the tickets and a strongbox from a random mob lol.
    ...But... how are we supposed to get more strongboxes with Voriplasm Pet / Grave stake memento ? One per day on an event that lasts 13 days, with one day "lost" (because of game re-download) - so 12 days... and 14 fragments to get... With RNG you will get some duplicates so event tickets may be not enough.

    Any way to get more than one per day ?
  • Elsonso
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    Granicus wrote: »
    Yep, FAIL. Killed the WB (one of only two in this small zone) several times and got zero loot. And ZoS, please don’t tell us to just go somewhere else. Any and all of the events/entities you said would drop loot should, for everyone. Poorly designed as it was poorly planned and communicated. The zone is too small for an event like this. Where’s the next big event, Stros M’Kai? Remove the cap on loot!

    They knew this going in. This is not their first time around the block. I doubt they will seriously consider fixing it. Someone in the studio is sticking with the caps, and "chance of a drop" stuff, on some principle. They are sort of like the person trying to make a left turn and are stuck in the middle of the intersection blocking traffic because the light turned red.
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  • jaws343
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    Got the tickets and a strongbox from a random mob lol.
    ...But... how are we supposed to get more strongboxes with Voriplasm Pet / Grave stake memento ? One per day on an event that lasts 13 days, with one day "lost" (because of game re-download) - so 12 days... and 14 fragments to get... With RNG you will get some duplicates so event tickets may be not enough.

    Any way to get more than one per day ?

    It is one guaranteed per day with the chance for additional drops after that one. So you will get one, and you may get more or you may not.
  • Starlock
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    Got the tickets and a strongbox from a random mob lol.
    ...But... how are we supposed to get more strongboxes with Voriplasm Pet / Grave stake memento ? One per day on an event that lasts 13 days, with one day "lost" (because of game re-download) - so 12 days... and 14 fragments to get... With RNG you will get some duplicates so event tickets may be not enough.

    Any way to get more than one per day ?

    Yes. The monetization designers would like to introduce you to their new and improved version of events in Elder Scrolls Online, where it is now impossible to actually earn all the rewards by just playing the game yourself. I'm sure they'll provide you a friendly sign directing you to pay to win the rest of your event rewards in the cash shop!

    Edited to add - in fairness, this event isn't as onerous as the undaunted one was. But it is still true that to finish the mementos, you can't do it on your own unless you use some of your event tickets to buy fragments. Which then means you can't be using them for feathers, and may just come up short on your goals.
    Edited by Starlock on February 20, 2020 4:49PM
  • Veinblood1965
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    Royaji wrote: »
    dazee wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you be able to loot if you are part of the groups that kill the WB? It's no different than the new Elsweyr zones those spawn times are super long IMO.

    new elsweyr zones do not limit loot to 12 people.

    and when we had Elsweyr event - getting tickets was NOT a... chance drop. it was guaranteed drop. so not the same at all


    this event is a mess TBH. what i would suggest to minimize the messiness, personaly is - kill random outdoor trash until you get tickets and gold box, and THEN kill bosses for quests or whatever.

    wait.. some zones have a 12 person cap on who can get loot? I'd like to meet the idiot who thought of that idea.

    I believe all of them do. Unless they did change something specifically for dragons in Elsweyr.
    idk wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you be able to loot if you are part of the groups that kill the WB? It's no different than the new Elsweyr zones those spawn times are super long IMO.

    The pretty sure OP is talking about the cap on how many players get loot. iirc it is 12 players. So if 30 players are waiting for the boss to spawn then less than half will actually get loot.

    Uugh I had no idea, do you mean to say there is a 12 player cap on WB's for this event or is it just tickets but you get the normal WB loot or nothing at all?

    The cap is on loot in general. If you are not among top 12 damage contributors the body will not even be loot-able.

    I don't think that's the case for dragons though, there's many times I just get there and get one whack in and the dragon dies, I always get loot. On WB's not the same, there's times I just get there and get a few whacks in and get nothing, I figured it was you had to at least do a certain amount of damage on those like at least 100k for example to get anything.
  • lagrue
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    Why wouldn't you be able to loot if you are part of the groups that kill the WB? It's no different than the new Elsweyr zones those spawn times are super long IMO.

    You need to get a hit in. Good luck doing that when bosses and players are phasing in and out of the shadow realm because the load of so many players is too intense for the engine to cope with.
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  • Veinblood1965
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    I guess that is ok then as long as you have the same chance on other mobs etc, delves. Just odd that during a non-event and you do a daily WB in Murkmire you get at least one set piece, but during the event you most likely get no loot at all. It does make nice in some ways I guess as you can just go do other things, just seems odd is all. Doesn't make me look forward to other events if this is the new event style, nobody likes disappointment. I wonder how this was arrived at, I appreciate that ZoS does take the time to organize these things, and make the coding etc but I can't imagine how that conversation went in any meeting about hey let's make it so 12 players get loot and others don't. Then the counterpoint that well they can get loot they just need to kill other mobs.

    The obvious point to that is so people won't all just group up on WB's and that's it, they need to go explore the zone. The obvious thing to me would be you have 12 chances to get the double loot and boxes etc and if you aren't one of the twelve you at least get the normal daily loot. Getting zero just leaves room for people feeling frustrated. I see this in my job all the time and anyone who's worked in a corporate setting will relate, the squeaky wheel gets greased in many meetings even if the wheel has a bad idea. Let's just hope that this gets tweaked a bit for future events. Nothing wrong with an experiment however just IMO it just could have been thought out more.
    Edited by Veinblood1965 on February 20, 2020 5:00PM
  • Chaos2088
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    Events just need to stop.
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  • AlnilamE
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    Royaji wrote: »
    dazee wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you be able to loot if you are part of the groups that kill the WB? It's no different than the new Elsweyr zones those spawn times are super long IMO.

    new elsweyr zones do not limit loot to 12 people.

    and when we had Elsweyr event - getting tickets was NOT a... chance drop. it was guaranteed drop. so not the same at all


    this event is a mess TBH. what i would suggest to minimize the messiness, personaly is - kill random outdoor trash until you get tickets and gold box, and THEN kill bosses for quests or whatever.

    wait.. some zones have a 12 person cap on who can get loot? I'd like to meet the idiot who thought of that idea.

    I believe all of them do. Unless they did change something specifically for dragons in Elsweyr.
    idk wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you be able to loot if you are part of the groups that kill the WB? It's no different than the new Elsweyr zones those spawn times are super long IMO.

    The pretty sure OP is talking about the cap on how many players get loot. iirc it is 12 players. So if 30 players are waiting for the boss to spawn then less than half will actually get loot.

    Uugh I had no idea, do you mean to say there is a 12 player cap on WB's for this event or is it just tickets but you get the normal WB loot or nothing at all?

    The cap is on loot in general. If you are not among top 12 damage contributors the body will not even be loot-able.

    I don't think that's the case for dragons though, there's many times I just get there and get one whack in and the dragon dies, I always get loot. On WB's not the same, there's times I just get there and get a few whacks in and get nothing, I figured it was you had to at least do a certain amount of damage on those like at least 100k for example to get anything.

    Dragons are essentially dolmen chests when it comes to loot. As long as you looked sternly at it while it was in battle, you get to loot.
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  • Dusk_Coven
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    Feedback: "ZOS, it's going to cause problems. It's happened before."
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  • Maythor
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    Got the tickets and a strongbox from a random mob lol.
    ...But... how are we supposed to get more strongboxes with Voriplasm Pet / Grave stake memento ? One per day on an event that lasts 13 days, with one day "lost" (because of game re-download) - so 12 days... and 14 fragments to get... With RNG you will get some duplicates so event tickets may be not enough.

    Any way to get more than one per day ?

    It's worse than that, I just collected my box and there was no fragment of either momento/pet within it!
    Edited by Maythor on February 20, 2020 5:15PM
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Maythor wrote: »
    Got the tickets and a strongbox from a random mob lol.
    ...But... how are we supposed to get more strongboxes with Voriplasm Pet / Grave stake memento ? One per day on an event that lasts 13 days, with one day "lost" (because of game re-download) - so 12 days... and 14 fragments to get... With RNG you will get some duplicates so event tickets may be not enough.

    Any way to get more than one per day ?

    It's worse than that, I just collected my box and there was no fragment of either motif within it!
    Another thing I have found is if you search guild stores "by text" - nothing. As if those items are not even tradable lol.... wtf :joy:
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    The tickets and box can drop from mobs anywhere in Murkmire. There is no issue getting them if you don't stare blindly at the world bosses. People exaggerate as always.
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  • jaws343
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    Maythor wrote: »
    Got the tickets and a strongbox from a random mob lol.
    ...But... how are we supposed to get more strongboxes with Voriplasm Pet / Grave stake memento ? One per day on an event that lasts 13 days, with one day "lost" (because of game re-download) - so 12 days... and 14 fragments to get... With RNG you will get some duplicates so event tickets may be not enough.

    Any way to get more than one per day ?

    It's worse than that, I just collected my box and there was no fragment of either motif within it!
    Another thing I have found is if you search guild stores "by text" - nothing. As if those items are not even tradable lol.... wtf :joy:

    The event just started, not surprising that no one has listed any for sale yet....
  • Linaleah
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    Maythor wrote: »
    Got the tickets and a strongbox from a random mob lol.
    ...But... how are we supposed to get more strongboxes with Voriplasm Pet / Grave stake memento ? One per day on an event that lasts 13 days, with one day "lost" (because of game re-download) - so 12 days... and 14 fragments to get... With RNG you will get some duplicates so event tickets may be not enough.

    Any way to get more than one per day ?

    It's worse than that, I just collected my box and there was no fragment of either motif within it!
    Another thing I have found is if you search guild stores "by text" - nothing. As if those items are not even tradable lol.... wtf :joy:

    they are not. they are added directly into your collections. yep

    because originally I was thinking.. i have 3 accounts surely, even with less then kind rng, at least i'll trade things to my main account, but nope.. not tradable.
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • freespirit
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    Maythor wrote: »
    Got the tickets and a strongbox from a random mob lol.
    ...But... how are we supposed to get more strongboxes with Voriplasm Pet / Grave stake memento ? One per day on an event that lasts 13 days, with one day "lost" (because of game re-download) - so 12 days... and 14 fragments to get... With RNG you will get some duplicates so event tickets may be not enough.

    Any way to get more than one per day ?

    It's worse than that, I just collected my box and there was no fragment of either motif within it!
    Another thing I have found is if you search guild stores "by text" - nothing. As if those items are not even tradable lol.... wtf :joy:

    I believe they aren't tradable...…. they go into your collections under fragments...…… same as feathers and berries :(
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  • Linaleah
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    Maythor wrote: »
    Got the tickets and a strongbox from a random mob lol.
    ...But... how are we supposed to get more strongboxes with Voriplasm Pet / Grave stake memento ? One per day on an event that lasts 13 days, with one day "lost" (because of game re-download) - so 12 days... and 14 fragments to get... With RNG you will get some duplicates so event tickets may be not enough.

    Any way to get more than one per day ?

    It's worse than that, I just collected my box and there was no fragment of either motif within it!
    Another thing I have found is if you search guild stores "by text" - nothing. As if those items are not even tradable lol.... wtf :joy:

    The event just started, not surprising that no one has listed any for sale yet....

    no, they are literally not tradable.

    and for the record, out of 4 boxes I opened (3 on US, one on EU), I got one fragment of a pet and zero fragments of memento.
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • Kahnak
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    Maythor wrote: »
    Got the tickets and a strongbox from a random mob lol.
    ...But... how are we supposed to get more strongboxes with Voriplasm Pet / Grave stake memento ? One per day on an event that lasts 13 days, with one day "lost" (because of game re-download) - so 12 days... and 14 fragments to get... With RNG you will get some duplicates so event tickets may be not enough.

    Any way to get more than one per day ?

    It's worse than that, I just collected my box and there was no fragment of either momento within it!

    Sounds like user-error. ;)
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  • JamieAubrey
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    MASS AOE

    Don't bother with Single Target skills
  • krachall
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    Chaos2088 wrote: »
    Events just need to stop.

    This.

    But I think ZOS is trying to tell us this since the global pinnacle overarching reward for events is the worst mount in the history of MMOs. It's also a zone- and racially-specific reward for one race and zone despite being awarded for every race in every zone in every event. Fail.

    In other words, ZOS said, "Our events suck but so do the rewards. So move along."
    Edited by krachall on February 20, 2020 5:16PM
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