Which Armor Trait do you Never use?

RPGplayer13579

Which Armor Trait do you never use? Which one would you want to be replaced? And what would you like in its place?

oxygen_thief

all of them except impenetrable and well fitted

UntilValhalla13

Invigorating

There's literally no reason to run invigorating, ever.

robpr

Invigorating

Invigorating and Nirn are both useless, but Invigorating is clearly winner here.
Heck, even Reinforced can have some uses, if someone dont have jewerly crafting.

essi2

Invigorating

Also Well-Fitted

Rave the Histborn

Nirnhoned

Toss up between Nirnhoned and invigorating but for the cost of nirncrux that trait seems the least worth it

Rowjoh

Invigorating

The Invigorating trait is beyond useless.

Why on earth this hasn't been buffed, re-worked or removed altogether just doesn't make sense.

Artorias24

Invigorating

Rowjoh wrote: »

The Invigorating trait is beyond useless.

Why on earth this hasn't been buffed, re-worked or removed altogether just doesn't make sense.

It has been rewoked already to this useless trait. Before it gave increased drops on gold you found. At least somehow niche and a little bit usefull when grinding imperial mobs.

Siohwenoeht

Nirnhoned

Toss up between nirn and invigorating.

I'd say I'd love to see nirn buffed, but there are already tons of ways to get armor/resistance.

Hippie4927

All of them except Divines, Infused, and Impen.

Bobby_V_Rockit

Sturdy

Blocking is for chumps

Kendaric

Impenetrable

Impenetrable, since I don't play PvP. Well-fitted and Invigorating are tied for the second place though.

Tommy_The_Gun

Invigorating

It provides 11 Magicka, Stamina and Health Recovery (on golen gear). Maximum you can get is 88 (7 pcs armour + 1 shield). It is imho pathetically low.
Even if it would be incresed to 129 or 169 when maxed - it would still be imho too low to consider, but maybe some niche hybrid builds would use it.

DreadDaedroth

Nirnhoned

Nirnohed because I use invigorating from drops when leveling alts; not worth to transmute or farm.

hasi

Nirnhoned

Like everyone else I was stuck between Nirn and Invigorating..
I picked Nirn though, because I am more likely to use Overland/Dungeon Set Pieces with that Trait until I can transmute it or get the right one!😆😂

(I personally never really used Well-Fitted, Reinforced[...] neither. Only Infused, Divines, Training and Impen.)

Vaoh

Invigorating

Invigorating aka “no trait”.

Replace it with an armor version of Harmony (synergy effectiveness) or Decisive (Ult gen).

Fischblut

Invigorating

Reinforced, nirnhoned, invigorating - all are really bad armor traits, in my opinion.
Bring back old Prosperous, or make a new armor set (Mystic gear piece?) which has interesting bonus "Increase gold from mobs by 100%"

idk

I can say honestly I have used all of them. I have leveled up characters using only gear that dropped and as such I end up using all traits at some point.

snoozy

Invigorating

why does this trash exist

Vietfox

Invigorating

Devs should take a look at this poll xD

Na0cho

Invigorating

The only ones I use are divines,impen,well fitted, infused, and occasionally nirnhoned/sharpened on weapons only.

The rest are a complete waste to me.

redlink1979

Invigorating

I only use this when I pick up random gear until the char reaches level 50.

Kelces

Invigorating

Enabling armors to hold two enchantments instead of one with a fraction of the effect of a glyph, thus being able to vary the resource pool for making a more variable hybrid build.

PrimusNephilim

Well-fitted

I voted well-Fitted but there are several traits I don't use but to make it simple, for PvE I mainly use Divines, Infused & Impenetrable.
For PvP, its a whole different world when applying traits to armor & jewelry
~ Cheers

Reverb

Invigorating

I don’t use most of them, but invigorating stands out in its uselessness.

code65536

Nirnhoned

Invigorating actually isn't that bad. It's more total recovery than Divines + Atronach or Divines + Serpent. For a specific resource, Divines is better. But for all resources, Invigorating is better.

The problem with Invigorating is that it spells out exactly how little you're getting from it. That's why it seems bad. But in reality, all armor traits are pretty muted in their effect. If Divines had instead specified exactly how much magicka recovery you're getting from the Atronach mundus, people would be calling it useless too. But people don't, because its effect is obfuscated.

The really worthless trait is Nirnhoned. It's just another version of Reinforced, with Nirnhoned being a flat value and Reinforced being a percentage value. For some armor pieces, Reinforced will outperform Nirn, and for some, Nirn will outperform Reinforced. In cases where people are building for resistances (which you generally shouldn't do since resistances are actually relatively weak)--i.e., where people are using heavy armor--Reinforced will generally do better. And for a trait that is much more expensive than the common traits, it's pretty ridiculous. Perhaps if Nirnhoned on armor instead behaved like Nirnhoned on weapons and boosted SD/WD, then it'd be more useful.

idk

Vietfox wrote: »

Devs should take a look at this poll xD

Not really. I expect they can pull usage directly from the game that is better than the small number of players thave have responded to this poll. They probably already know what is used least of all.

When they reworked the traits they did a pretty good job. More traits are worthy to be used than the original design. More important is that there will always be a trait that is least used and trying to make them all equally useful is pretty much impossible.

Ri_Khan

Invigorating

Funny how it's the most common trait that gear drops with.

code65536

Nirnhoned

Vietfox wrote: »

Devs should take a look at this poll xD

What do you think they'll see? I think they'll see that most forum-goers are incapable of simple math.

There was already an initial outcry over the Invigorating trait when that trait was first introduced in 2017 (replacing the truly useless Prosperous).

This is what I wrote back then.

code65536 wrote: »

Atronach or Serpent Mundus: +238 Mag or Stam regen

With gold Divines, that's +7.5%, or +18 Mag or Stam regen

With gold Invigorating, that's +11 Mag, Stam, and Health regen

So if want single-resource regen, Divines if you are using a regen Mundus is best. Invigorating returns less than Divines, but covers all three pools.

I think the numbers for Invigorating are fair. You may think +11 regen is insignificant, but it's in line with what other traits do--armor traits in general have always been pretty insignificant in comparison to the much more important weapon traits.

PS: Also keep in mind that the +11 regen is unbuffed. In practice, it'll be quite a bit more due to CP, passives from class/race/etc., potions, and other sources of buffs to regen.

Let's say, for example, I'm a DD doing PvE content. I want all-Divines. I have a 5pc armor set where none of the traits are ideal: Reinforced, Invigorating, Training, Sturdy, and Impenetrable. But I only have a limited number of crystals. How should I prioritize my retraiting. Which trait should I change first and which one should I change last? For PvE DPS, I'd probably retrait them in the order of Training, Impen, Sturdy, Reinforced, Invigorating.

Let's say, for another example, you're doing PvP. You want all-Impen. Your current gear is Reinforced, Invigorating, Divines, Training, and Sturdy. Same deal: How do you prioritize it? I don't know about you, but I'd actually get rid of my Divines before my Invigorating.

There are very few situations where Invigorating is a BiS trait, and you'll eventually convert it to something that better fits the content you're doing. But it's not a bad trait--it's a good all-rounded trait. It's not ideal for anything, but it's useful in wide variety of scenarios and is one of the last traits that I'd retrait from as a result.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Nirnhoned

Nirnhoned is just bloat for nine-trait gear.

gatekeeper13

Invigorating

If invigorating gave around 80 recovery per piece, it would be an awesome trait. As it is right now, its total trash and I really wonder whats the point of it being in the game.