Lets have an auction house please!!!

EternalDiva

Even WITH a guild it is often very difficult to sell or buy what I want. truly limiting. I want an auction house that all players can access fully. Just like WOW has. IDK if that auction house would be limited to server divisions like one for north america and one for other or if it would be served by what realm you are on. As far as I can tell ESO isnt broken down into realms smaller than the main server. So in my case any PS4 player in North America would have access to same auction house.

Seriously. We need this. Kinda surprised after all these years to still be so limited.

With things the way they are only a few people are making massive amounts of gold in this game. Not only by having the guild but by charging enormous amounts of money for people to belong to the guild.

as an alternate idea to a simple auctioneer system removing the need for guild traders we could consider:

1> guild traders become something else altogether. Instead of limited to selling only guild members goods make them into guild merchants to whom everyone can buy sell, and repair with and a portion of that money going to the guild who sponsors the guild merchant.

OR

2> make guild traders into auctioneers (sponsored by a guild) locked into the common system (everyone can use the auctioneer) with a portion of what someone sells going to the guild who sponsors the auctioneer.

The last two options allow guilds to make money and instead of charging massive amounts of gold for people to belong the auctioneer or merchant gets a cut of the overall pie. It would not prohibit said guild from asking its members for fees. But it defo would make it easier to buy and sell on an open market instead of a closed one.

FearlessOne_2014

Get ready for all of the peeps screaming that the Trader System is awesome and can't be manipulated. And that a Auction House would be inviting demons into ESO.

idk

I seriously doubt Zos would entertain adding/changing to an AH or central trader. The trading system is basically something they really wanted when they developed the game. They touted it before the game launched and my bet is it is the pet project of at least one of the devs. Pretty sure as long as Matt is at the helm an AH will not happen.

Katahdin

Not gona happen
Their vision is a guild trader system, not an auction house.

I find things I need with few issues. 1000s of players use the system as is with little to no problems. I don't understand why you cant.

Wolfpaw

I would like to see a global trade system, & increase the house take to keep trade guilds from crying too much. I'm biased as I don't care much for ESO's guild system in the first place.

Representation/tabard system
Guild trade system
Multiple guilds at once

If deleted from the game, I wouldn't miss any of it.

Darkenarlol

it's been a couple of months without AH threads, right?

gresiac

No

BigBragg

Let's have a tutorial on using the forums search feature, please!

Gadamlub14_ESO

https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/

VaranisArano

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Get ready for all of the peeps screaming that the Trader System is awesome and can't be manipulated. And that a Auction House would be inviting demons into ESO.

In the meantime, those of us familiar with both systems will tell you that its definitely possible to manipulate ESO's system, but it takes a lot of time and effort, is typically over a short duration and only for certain rarer items. An Auction House would make manipulation much, much easier in comparison.

But that would require you to engage with more than a strawman argument.

MLGProPlayer

Katahdin wrote: »

Not gona happen
Their vision is a guild trader system, not an auction house.

I find things I need with few issues. 1000s of players use the system as is with little to no problems. I don't understand why you cant.

The system is nearly impossible to use on consoles.

There is no TTC for searching for items. It can take hours to find a specific item.

There are also no add-ons like MM and ATT which can track member sales, making running a trade guild exceedingly difficult.

The only reason it's even remotely usable on PC is because of add-ons.

Glurin

Ok, I think at this point the horse has been pulverized to the point where it no longer exists and we are just beating the barren soil that was underneath it.

Varana

In the words of the Orcish bards Fire Arms 'n' Flowers:

Sometimes I feel like I'm beatin' a dead horse
And I don't know why you'd be bringin' this up
I'd like to think that old threads're worth a tad more
It may sound funny - this is an old hat
I'll be sighin'
I guess some things never change
Never change...

(I'm old-ish and so are my references, not sorry.)

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Oh look a new discussion about how we need a global auctionhouse. Guess it's been a week already.

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

I kinda like the Trader system. Yes, faults and all.

Royaji

Sure. AH with about 30-40% tax and we can talk about it. Or I'm open to other ideas how we can keep on pulling a couple hundreds of millions of gold from game economy every week. Maybe pro-AH club will agree to pay that from their pockets?

Nemesis7884

anitajoneb17_ESO

EternalDiva wrote: »

Seriously. We need this.

Seriously, we don't need this and we don't want this.
/thread.

Grimm13

idk wrote: »

I seriously doubt Zos would entertain adding/changing to an AH or central trader. The trading system is basically something they really wanted when they developed the game. They touted it before the game launched and my bet is it is the pet project of at least one of the devs. Pretty sure as long as Matt is at the helm an AH will not happen.

The trader system was introduced in UD3, so it was not what was envisioned when they devolved the game.

What they had prior was Guild Stores. Which only guild members could access. That was the unique system they touted. People did not like it and then they did the traders in UD3. Still was not what people wanted.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/1105 That is the link to the v1.3.3 patch notes

Beardimus

No thanks. Generally when folks want one they just haven't worked out how to trade properly. Adapt and you'll be fine. It's straight forward enough

redgreensunset

OP's ideas are great! If we want hyper inflation on the servers.
Gotta be a no from me to those ideas.

MLGProPlayer

redgreensunset wrote: »

OP's ideas are great! If we want hyper inflation on the servers.
Gotta be a no from me to those ideas.

The market is fine in WoW, FFXIV, GW2, etc. and they all have a central AH.

thermatico

Think about the current performance of this game. Could you imagine implementing a global auction house? lmao

Iluvrien

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

redgreensunset wrote: »

OP's ideas are great! If we want hyper inflation on the servers.
Gotta be a no from me to those ideas.

The market is fine in WoW, FFXIV, GW2, etc. and they all have a central AH.

So it would be in ESO too... obviously...

I mean after they had stripped out a lot of the gold associated with the current system...

... and completely rebalanced all of the gold earning mechanisms in the game.

Elsonso

thermatico wrote: »

Think about the current performance of this game. Could you imagine implementing a global auction house? lmao

This is a valid point, and one that I have made a couple of times in threads like this. Whatever ZOS uses for a backend database is barely able to keep up with what we have today. If ZOS tried to do any sort of global sales system, the hamster would simply die.

More seriously, as has been said in the past, in threads like these and by ZOS, "no". I like that answer, too. This is as close to "Elder Scrolls" as we are going to get to a player-to-player commerce system.

InvictusApollo

All I would like to get is a TTC equivalent that has all the sales available and not just those scanned by players.

EternalDiva

While I can defo appreciate when someone has an opinion different from mine. That opinion means very little to me or anyone else when the argument against involves petty personal attacks on the other person.

Why did I think adults played this game too? <sigh>

daemonios

VaranisArano wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Get ready for all of the peeps screaming that the Trader System is awesome and can't be manipulated. And that a Auction House would be inviting demons into ESO.

In the meantime, those of us familiar with both systems will tell you that its definitely possible to manipulate ESO's system, but it takes a lot of time and effort, is typically over a short duration and only for certain rarer items. An Auction House would make manipulation much, much easier in comparison.

But that would require you to engage with more than a strawman argument.

Market manipulation is already present in ESO, and can be seen in items that affect newer and more casual players disproportionately. Crafting and upgrade materials are routinely rounded up and reposted at a mark-up. Guild traders vs. auction house is immaterial, you'd need other measures to address manipulation.

thermatico wrote: »

Think about the current performance of this game. Could you imagine implementing a global auction house? lmao

Straw man. Other MMOs with global auction houses don't seem to be held back by that fact.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

How original. But a horse ain't dead just because you say it is. A dead horse would be something that is definitively and irrevocably decided. There is nothing stopping ZOS from implementing an AH in the future, so the discussion remains valid. If you don't want to discuss, you can just move along.

Cavedog

Please no central auction house.

......but the bidding system for vendors needs a major overhaul or to just go back to the one bid per vendor system.

bmnoble

Add 200+ public listing spaces to each trader, sales tax works the same as it does for guild members half the gold goes to the guild that holds the trader the other half into the gold sink.

Only those who are not in a guild with a trader can use the public listing spaces max of 5 spaces per account, to prevent people with a trader using the extra spots to list more items or someone just filling all the spots with junk they have not priced properly.

Listings in the public space only last until the trader bid, after that they count as expired and are mailed back to whoever listed the item, that way only stuff that sells quick will be listed in the public spots meaning any real trader with valuable stuff that takes awhile to sell, will have to join a trade guild.

That's my 2 cents.

mikemacon

Not sure if you’re aware of this, but...this isn’t WoW.

MattT1988

EternalDiva wrote: »

While I can defo appreciate when someone has an opinion different from mine. That opinion means very little to me or anyone else when the argument against involves petty personal attacks on the other person.

Why did I think adults played this game too? <sigh>

What personal attacks? No one has personally attacked you.