ZOS, do you actually care anymore?

Jaraal

Lady_Rosabella wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

It is a really bad joke to make when your name is green.

Kind of like this Joke(?) from Gina in December 2018.

To her credit though, she did apologize for that.


https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5660465/#Comment_5660465

LiraTaurwen

Lady_Rosabella wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

It is a really bad joke to make when your name is green.

Kind of like this Joke(?) from Gina in December 2018.

WTF!!! Really bad joke...You know what? .I. ZoS!

geonsocal

Tigerseye wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

solasub wrote: »

oh so we just shut up?

Not at all. Ever. You are paying for a service and have every right to voice disagreement with it when it has failed to meet your standards and expectations. Just know who to be pissed at.

This - NEVER shut up.

The key is to know WHO to be pissed at.

The other ting is that many of the people here really need to work on their presentation. You can be pissed and voice disagreements, but when you come across as an entitled child you will never get the response or resolution that you are looking for.

I have run car dealerships for a LONG time now, so customer service is VERY important. I can assure you that as a customer, HOW you come at someone with a complaint will dictate the level of response and resolution that you get.

Calling people lazy, greedy, incompetent, stupid ( which happens here l TON ) will get you ignored even if they are actually working on your problem. As customer service goes it's just not worth responding to that kind of garbage.

My advice would be 100% to voice your complaints / concerns, but do it in a way that isn't sarcastic, passive aggressive, or down right abusive. You may just get a better response.

I run my own (tiny) business and sometimes people are rude, but I still deal with them

Yeah, I obviously didn't mean it like that...

i don't know man...while my current perception is that zos seems to be much more connected to the fan base through reddit than this forum - i do understand the importance of players raising their concerns and a bit of hell when it comes to the game's performance...otherwise there is a very real chance that no performance issues would ever get addressed (which is sort of sad in of itself)...

personally though - i'd just feel kind of dumb complaining/voicing concerns regarding some leisure activity that basically involves me pissing my time away and a fairly unproductive manner...

i almost feel like i deserve what i get from zos for wasting so much of my time in tamriel...

i pvp a lot, and, we've had bugs and bad performance for years now, thankfully i've finally gotten to the point where i no longer keep trying to make it "work", if performance is poor (or, gets too aggravating) - i simply log off now...it's not like i don't have a ton of other *** to do, or, ways to relax...

_Salty_

Give Zos some slack.....according to them they are "Killing it" killing what exactly remains to be seen.

Turelus

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

Ever since elsweyr release, it seems that ZOS does not care about eso anymore.

Elsweyr got release with 90% of the bugs reported during the PTS cycle, 1 month later barely anything has been done to fix these bugs/issues.
The EU server is in the worst state since release. Necro still broken, Sunspire still broken(bosses hitboxes. skills not able to hit the boss).

What are you doing all day in the office ZOS? Paying customers expect you work on bugs, fixes, increase performance.
At this point it starts to feel like the money we all spend on eso is taken straight into this mobile game nobody cares about and whatever else you have going on. You sell things in the crownstore for ridiculous prices, which alot of people pay. Where is that money? Why is not being put back into ESO? Why dont you hire more people if your team is so "small".
There is probably alot more to add. But this is what I have on my mind. Discuss.

I am really upset at this point.

Wow is this for real? Not photoshoped?

It's real and it's a fair comment. Rich was doing a forum AMA style thing and one person kept trolling and being toxic, Rich stated they didn't need to be in that thread.
Honestly I wish ZOS staff were given the freedom to smack down some of the trolls and toxic posters more often.

It's often the same names as well, people who seem to have nothing better to do but go on the forums and try to stir up more resentment for ZOS or attack everything they do. The game is in a shockingly bad place right now, and ZOS deserves a lot of criticism for how they've handled things, but too many people go about that in the wrong way.

If you're on a forum just to make angry or toxic posts because you're so unhappy about a game, it's time to walk away from that game. It's better for you mental health, trust me I've literally been there with this game.

MCBIZZLE300

xMovingTarget wrote: »

Ever since elsweyr release, it seems that ZOS does not care about eso anymore.

Elsweyr got release with 90% of the bugs reported during the PTS cycle, 1 month later barely anything has been done to fix these bugs/issues.
The EU server is in the worst state since release. Necro still broken, Sunspire still broken(bosses hitboxes. skills not able to hit the boss).

What are you doing all day in the office ZOS? Paying customers expect you work on bugs, fixes, increase performance.
At this point it starts to feel like the money we all spend on eso is taken straight into this mobile game nobody cares about and whatever else you have going on. You sell things in the crownstore for ridiculous prices, which alot of people pay. Where is that money? Why is not being put back into ESO? Why dont you hire more people if your team is so "small".
There is probably alot more to add. But this is what I have on my mind. Discuss.

I am really upset at this point.

Yet we all keep playing.

Uryel

mcb123 wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

Ever since elsweyr release, it seems that ZOS does not care about eso anymore.

Elsweyr got release with 90% of the bugs reported during the PTS cycle, 1 month later barely anything has been done to fix these bugs/issues.
The EU server is in the worst state since release. Necro still broken, Sunspire still broken(bosses hitboxes. skills not able to hit the boss).

What are you doing all day in the office ZOS? Paying customers expect you work on bugs, fixes, increase performance.
At this point it starts to feel like the money we all spend on eso is taken straight into this mobile game nobody cares about and whatever else you have going on. You sell things in the crownstore for ridiculous prices, which alot of people pay. Where is that money? Why is not being put back into ESO? Why dont you hire more people if your team is so "small".
There is probably alot more to add. But this is what I have on my mind. Discuss.

I am really upset at this point.

Yet we all keep playing.

And we should. It would be way too easy if theycould just "fix" their servers by simply having the number of folks using them decrease. They don't want to drop a penny for hardware or bug fixing ? At least I'll make them pay for the bandwidth.

Kilnerdyne

I mentioned this would most likely start happening in a post back in February (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5839830/#Comment_5839830)

Kilnerdyne wrote: »

The only gameplan they have now.

1. Spend as little as possible on keeping the game alive.
2. Drain the community wallets using Cats & Dragons.
3. Create 'Goodbye' & 'Thanks for playing' threads.
4. Create new MMO with same HeroCloud engine.
5. Rinse & Repeat.

Elsonso

Numerikuu wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

by not spending anything they will just walk over the next project. Its a double edged sword. You pay, they dont change. you stop paying. they just stop. That is the issue.

Let them. Just don't give them a cent when their next project rolls around.

Commander Keen? It will be interesting to see how well that does.

kpittsniperb14_ESO

Turelus wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

Ever since elsweyr release, it seems that ZOS does not care about eso anymore.

Elsweyr got release with 90% of the bugs reported during the PTS cycle, 1 month later barely anything has been done to fix these bugs/issues.
The EU server is in the worst state since release. Necro still broken, Sunspire still broken(bosses hitboxes. skills not able to hit the boss).

What are you doing all day in the office ZOS? Paying customers expect you work on bugs, fixes, increase performance.
At this point it starts to feel like the money we all spend on eso is taken straight into this mobile game nobody cares about and whatever else you have going on. You sell things in the crownstore for ridiculous prices, which alot of people pay. Where is that money? Why is not being put back into ESO? Why dont you hire more people if your team is so "small".
There is probably alot more to add. But this is what I have on my mind. Discuss.

I am really upset at this point.

Wow is this for real? Not photoshoped?

It's real and it's a fair comment. Rich was doing a forum AMA style thing and one person kept trolling and being toxic, Rich stated they didn't need to be in that thread.
Honestly I wish ZOS staff were given the freedom to smack down some of the trolls and toxic posters more often.

It's often the same names as well, people who seem to have nothing better to do but go on the forums and try to stir up more resentment for ZOS or attack everything they do. The game is in a shockingly bad place right now, and ZOS deserves a lot of criticism for how they've handled things, but too many people go about that in the wrong way.

If you're on a forum just to make angry or toxic posts because you're so unhappy about a game, it's time to walk away from that game. It's better for you mental health, trust me I've literally been there with this game.

So it's understandable that a community manager would make a post slapping playing customers in the face by making light of the fact that the game can be literally unplayable for those customers and yet those customers are toxic and trolls for repeatedly complaining that the product is literally unplayable? ZOS had earned every bit of the blowback they have and are receiving after 5 years of releasing buggy content, re introducing bugs that have been previously fixed, inability to provide stable servers]5 yearsafter release and the list goes on. I appreciate that you recognize that they deserve most of the criticism but imho they deserve far more than they are receiving. I think the customer base has been overly forgiving and reasonable with this dev team if anything.

Qbiken

We need more big streamers focusing more on "exposing" the game for its poor performance......

And you know the communication from ZOS is bad when even some of the class-reps have issues getting responses from ZOS.......

ATomiX96

Meh I came back to ESO (playing since launch pretty much) after a 6 month break, because a friend won a giveaway of an Elsweyr key and decided to give it to me so I can check out, in quotes, "all the new content and necromancer".
Didnt even last 2 full weeks before I got bored out of my mind.
Dragons? Meh, interresting for maybe a day or two at best.
The zone? Visually appealing, but im not a *** casual RPtard sorry.
PvE was the same ***, sunspire is a mediocre trial at best, sadly I got to clear it on veteran and it was a *** joke, its an insult to other actual trials, to call this a trial as well.
Also did other PvE content and was surpised that they managed to degrade the quality and introduce more fresh bugs into old content without even changing anything.
PvP also as expected the same laggy shitfiesta called cyrodiil, tried to queue bgs with few friends because faction locks dont allow me play with my friends, ended up sitting in queue for half an hour to faceroll randoms with a 4-man premade in a 5 minute deathmatch game.
Also not a fan of volendrung, because its only proper application is for PvDooring, it doesnt do *** all damage to other players.
Necromancer? Oh boy, more like Mediocremancer at best, at first glance interresting ablities which get boring after a few days of play, I tried to not powerlevel my necromancer so that I can experience the class, but there wasnt anything to experience.
Other classes are also the same ***, no real changes that are worthwile mentioning besides wings change, gameplay hasnt changed in the slightest, no CP progression or rework of CP.
Im just glad that I didnt have to spend a single penny on this so called "expansion".
Its a pity the game is killing itself due to corporate greed and pushing cosmetics rather than fixing long existing issues and bugs.
Idk maybe next year, ESO isnt worth my time atm.

Inaya

ATomiX96 wrote: »

Meh I came back to ESO (playing since launch pretty much) after a 6 month break, because a friend won a giveaway of an Elsweyr key and decided to give it to me so I can check out, in quotes, "all the new content and necromancer".
Didnt even last 2 full weeks before I got bored out of my mind.
Dragons? Meh, interresting for maybe a day or two at best.
The zone? Visually appealing, but im not a *** casual RPtard sorry.
PvE was the same ***, sunspire is a mediocre trial at best, sadly I got to clear it on veteran and it was a *** joke, its an insult to other actual trials, to call this a trial as well.
Also did other PvE content and was surpised that they managed to degrade the quality and introduce more fresh bugs into old content without even changing anything.
PvP also as expected the same laggy shitfiesta called cyrodiil, tried to queue bgs with few friends because faction locks dont allow me play with my friends, ended up sitting in queue for half an hour to faceroll randoms with a 4-man premade in a 5 minute deathmatch game.
Also not a fan of volendrung, because its only proper application is for PvDooring, it doesnt do *** all damage to other players.
Necromancer? Oh boy, more like Mediocremancer at best, at first glance interresting ablities which get boring after a few days of play, I tried to not powerlevel my necromancer so that I can experience the class, but there wasnt anything to experience.
Other classes are also the same ***, no real changes that are worthwile mentioning besides wings change, gameplay hasnt changed in the slightest, no CP progression or rework of CP.
Im just glad that I didnt have to spend a single penny on this so called "expansion".
Its a pity the game is killing itself due to corporate greed and pushing cosmetics rather than fixing long existing issues and bugs.
Idk maybe next year, ESO isnt worth my time atm.

I stopped caring about your opinion at this: "The zone? Visually appealing, but im not a *** casual RPtard sorry."
Really dude? Can't voice your opinion without being insulting?

Turelus

kpittsniperb14_ESO wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

Ever since elsweyr release, it seems that ZOS does not care about eso anymore.

Elsweyr got release with 90% of the bugs reported during the PTS cycle, 1 month later barely anything has been done to fix these bugs/issues.
The EU server is in the worst state since release. Necro still broken, Sunspire still broken(bosses hitboxes. skills not able to hit the boss).

What are you doing all day in the office ZOS? Paying customers expect you work on bugs, fixes, increase performance.
At this point it starts to feel like the money we all spend on eso is taken straight into this mobile game nobody cares about and whatever else you have going on. You sell things in the crownstore for ridiculous prices, which alot of people pay. Where is that money? Why is not being put back into ESO? Why dont you hire more people if your team is so "small".
There is probably alot more to add. But this is what I have on my mind. Discuss.

I am really upset at this point.

Wow is this for real? Not photoshoped?

It's real and it's a fair comment. Rich was doing a forum AMA style thing and one person kept trolling and being toxic, Rich stated they didn't need to be in that thread.
Honestly I wish ZOS staff were given the freedom to smack down some of the trolls and toxic posters more often.

It's often the same names as well, people who seem to have nothing better to do but go on the forums and try to stir up more resentment for ZOS or attack everything they do. The game is in a shockingly bad place right now, and ZOS deserves a lot of criticism for how they've handled things, but too many people go about that in the wrong way.

If you're on a forum just to make angry or toxic posts because you're so unhappy about a game, it's time to walk away from that game. It's better for you mental health, trust me I've literally been there with this game.

So it's understandable that a community manager would make a post slapping playing customers in the face by making light of the fact that the game can be literally unplayable for those customers and yet those customers are toxic and trolls for repeatedly complaining that the product is literally unplayable? ZOS had earned every bit of the blowback they have and are receiving after 5 years of releasing buggy content, re introducing bugs that have been previously fixed, inability to provide stable servers]5 yearsafter release and the list goes on. I appreciate that you recognize that they deserve most of the criticism but imho they deserve far more than they are receiving. I think the customer base has been overly forgiving and reasonable with this dev team if anything.

Some of us understood it was a joke and laughed.

Sansoul

xMovingTarget wrote: »

Ever since elsweyr release, it seems that ZOS does not care about eso anymore.

Elsweyr got release with 90% of the bugs reported during the PTS cycle, 1 month later barely anything has been done to fix these bugs/issues.
The EU server is in the worst state since release. Necro still broken, Sunspire still broken(bosses hitboxes. skills not able to hit the boss).

What are you doing all day in the office ZOS? Paying customers expect you work on bugs, fixes, increase performance.
At this point it starts to feel like the money we all spend on eso is taken straight into this mobile game nobody cares about and whatever else you have going on. You sell things in the crownstore for ridiculous prices, which alot of people pay. Where is that money? Why is not being put back into ESO? Why dont you hire more people if your team is so "small".
There is probably alot more to add. But this is what I have on my mind. Discuss.

I am really upset at this point.

This is what games are gonna be like in the age of kids who whine and cry about spending $15 for an entire month of unlimited entertainment.

Do you know how business works? You can't hire employees if you don't have revenue. You don't have revenue if people are stomping around demanding a free game.

Elsonso

kpittsniperb14_ESO wrote: »

So it's understandable that a community manager would make a post slapping playing customers in the face by making light of the fact that the game can be literally unplayable for those customers and yet those customers are toxic and trolls for repeatedly complaining that the product is literally unplayable? ZOS had earned every bit of the blowback they have and are receiving after 5 years of releasing buggy content, re introducing bugs that have been previously fixed, inability to provide stable servers]5 yearsafter release and the list goes on. I appreciate that you recognize that they deserve most of the criticism but imho they deserve far more than they are receiving. I think the customer base has been overly forgiving and reasonable with this dev team if anything.

There is a slight reversal in that statement. It is not that the customers are toxic and trolls for repeatedly complaining, it is how the toxic trolling players use repeat complaints to make the forums an unfriendly place to be.

The customer base is largely reasonable, I will give you that. Maybe not forgiving. Those people are probably the ones that ZOS listens to more easily than the toxic others in here.

As to what ZOS "deserves", I will say that ZOS definitely does not deserve some of the comments that I have seen in here. My hope is that they have been moderated off the forum.

Sansoul

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Lady_Rosabella wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

It is a really bad joke to make when your name is green.

Kind of like this Joke(?) from Gina in December 2018.

WTF!!! Really bad joke...You know what? .I. ZoS!

They aren't even skilled enough with the Mac client to re-register the game binaries with the security subsystem in Mac... so every patch, no matter how small, you have to go in and manually do that or you get the spinning camera issue. I've played $2 games on steam that didn't even have this problem.

daemonios

ATomiX96 wrote: »

Gratuitous insults

Sad as I am with the state of the game, if it's keeping you out that's ONE good thing coming out of it.

zvavi

This is the last grain of salt i pour on the server problems. This is my last post about it because i got tired of complaining. I am tired of my complaints blatantly ignored. Even during the "we will answer all your questions" hour and a half they gave us in surprise, i asked them about bandwidth upgrade because it is obviously not able to hold the amount of players. What i got is "we notified our dungeon team about it" since i was also explaining how it affects dungeons. I mean, the dungeon team tried. And in the new patch notes they said they fixed it. But u know. Since the bandwidth cant survive it, you guessed it, still bugged. I am done complaining. It wont get us anywhere. The board decided not to do anything about it. And thats why they keep quiet. Because admitting it will make them lose more cash than just ignoring.
I apologise if i am wrong in my statements, @ZOS_MattFiror you can correct me if i made any mistakes in my statements. I will just keep trying to enjoy the game we all love so much. And when it doesn't work? I will go play something else. When they fix things i might sub back.

SweepsAllClowns

West1389 wrote: »

Let's take a step back and appreciate all that zos has fixed. They cant fix this stuff in a day or week it takes years to get a game going. You should be happy they let play this beta right now.

My EU account has been completely stuck for over 3 months now, I wonder how long it takes to accidently work again, a year or maybe 2 whole years? If I'm patient enough the eta for my next successful log in might be just around the corner in late 2021 already! In my last message with support I clearly asked what's their plan to fix my account, no answer and ticket closed by the customer. It's amazing how easily they let many loyal customers just leave without much any effort to keep them playing and paying, however on this forum side they sure are very fast and motivated to remove comments and close threads.

xMovingTarget

Also, since last patch, warhorn does not give HP anymore. it now takes it away...

Good job zos..

Every patch now just gets worse and worse

Takanami

They spent all the money they made from Elsweyr on the "WHOOOOOO YEAAAHHHHHH" guy at E3

West1389

SweepsAllClowns wrote: »

West1389 wrote: »

Let's take a step back and appreciate all that zos has fixed. They cant fix this stuff in a day or week it takes years to get a game going. You should be happy they let play this beta right now.

My EU account has been completely stuck for over 3 months now, I wonder how long it takes to accidently work again, a year or maybe 2 whole years? If I'm patient enough the eta for my next successful log in might be just around the corner in late 2021 already! In my last message with support I clearly asked what's their plan to fix my account, no answer and ticket closed by the customer. It's amazing how easily they let many loyal customers just leave without much any effort to keep them playing and paying, however on this forum side they sure are very fast and motivated to remove comments and close threads.

Why are you being so negative. They work hard and it's only been 5 years. I normally say Rome was not built in a year but people got angry. So now I say wow was not built fully in 5 years. Do you think they had good servers. Impossible it was like 2004 technology was not that good. We are still playing catch up with technology.

Be happy that you are stuck, it could be worse. You could be stuck in loading screen. At least your in game and can watch others play.

ArenGesus

West1389 wrote: »

SweepsAllClowns wrote: »

West1389 wrote: »

Let's take a step back and appreciate all that zos has fixed. They cant fix this stuff in a day or week it takes years to get a game going. You should be happy they let play this beta right now.

My EU account has been completely stuck for over 3 months now, I wonder how long it takes to accidently work again, a year or maybe 2 whole years? If I'm patient enough the eta for my next successful log in might be just around the corner in late 2021 already! In my last message with support I clearly asked what's their plan to fix my account, no answer and ticket closed by the customer. It's amazing how easily they let many loyal customers just leave without much any effort to keep them playing and paying, however on this forum side they sure are very fast and motivated to remove comments and close threads.

Why are you being so negative. They work hard and it's only been 5 years. I normally say Rome was not built in a year but people got angry. So now I say wow was not built fully in 5 years. Do you think they had good servers. Impossible it was like 2004 technology was not that good. We are still playing catch up with technology.

Be happy that you are stuck, it could be worse. You could be stuck in loading screen. At least your in game and can watch others play.

Exactly. Besides, just take a look at what's going on the bug reports forum. Roughly 400 bug threads opened in the month of June alone and they only have had time to respond to maybe 10 of them. Nobody can really expect them to deal with that many issues and fix this guys account at the same time too - especially because he probably just needs to reboot his router, which I'm sure he's been told a hundred times already.

Just chill and give it a few years, everything is on the right track and it will all be smooth sailing soon enough.

SweepsAllClowns

West1389 wrote: »

SweepsAllClowns wrote: »

West1389 wrote: »

Let's take a step back and appreciate all that zos has fixed. They cant fix this stuff in a day or week it takes years to get a game going. You should be happy they let play this beta right now.

My EU account has been completely stuck for over 3 months now, I wonder how long it takes to accidently work again, a year or maybe 2 whole years? If I'm patient enough the eta for my next successful log in might be just around the corner in late 2021 already! In my last message with support I clearly asked what's their plan to fix my account, no answer and ticket closed by the customer. It's amazing how easily they let many loyal customers just leave without much any effort to keep them playing and paying, however on this forum side they sure are very fast and motivated to remove comments and close threads.

Why are you being so negative. They work hard and it's only been 5 years. I normally say Rome was not built in a year but people got angry. So now I say wow was not built fully in 5 years. Do you think they had good servers. Impossible it was like 2004 technology was not that good. We are still playing catch up with technology.

Be happy that you are stuck, it could be worse. You could be stuck in loading screen. At least your in game and can watch others play.

Sorry I didn't quite understand this part, my in game can watch others play? I cannot log in with my EU account at all since Wrathstone arrived, but my NA account still works, I played for about 5 weeks there and gave up. I've watched some ESO streams on Mixer.

West1389

See then it's good play on the NA side. I think your post said you got stuck in a spot. So I was saying be happy you get to watch others play. It could be worse and not be able to log in.

Even if its 5 mins of game time you gotta think that's 5 mins more than someone who could not log in. Gotta see the glass half full buddy.

SweepsAllClowns

West1389 wrote: »

See then it's good play on the NA side. I think your post said you got stuck in a spot. So I was saying be happy you get to watch others play. It could be worse and not be able to log in.

Even if its 5 mins of game time you gotta think that's 5 mins more than someone who could not log in. Gotta see the glass half full buddy.

Sure if pretending overpositive in sarcastic way, I could even be so happy about my situation that I'd keep on paying for ESO+ membership, it's just that great now! And yes my EU account got stuck immediately after Wrathstone download, support is aware and investigating, all tickets closed.

JamilaRaj

SweepsAllClowns wrote: »

West1389 wrote: »

See then it's good play on the NA side. I think your post said you got stuck in a spot. So I was saying be happy you get to watch others play. It could be worse and not be able to log in.

Even if its 5 mins of game time you gotta think that's 5 mins more than someone who could not log in. Gotta see the glass half full buddy.

Sure if pretending overpositive in sarcastic way, I could even be so happy about my situation that I'd keep on paying for ESO+ membership, it's just that great now! And yes my EU account got stuck immediately after Wrathstone download, support is aware and investigating, all tickets closed.

But you can stil watch videos from EU server on Youtube, take consolation in that. Furthermore, you may increase playback speed, in which case the game would run faster than if you actually played it.

SweepsAllClowns

JamilaRaj wrote: »

SweepsAllClowns wrote: »

West1389 wrote: »

See then it's good play on the NA side. I think your post said you got stuck in a spot. So I was saying be happy you get to watch others play. It could be worse and not be able to log in.

Even if its 5 mins of game time you gotta think that's 5 mins more than someone who could not log in. Gotta see the glass half full buddy.

Sure if pretending overpositive in sarcastic way, I could even be so happy about my situation that I'd keep on paying for ESO+ membership, it's just that great now! And yes my EU account got stuck immediately after Wrathstone download, support is aware and investigating, all tickets closed.

But you can stil watch videos from EU server on Youtube, take consolation in that. Furthermore, you may increase playback speed, in which case the game would run faster than if you actually played it.

Much wisdom here indeed, but does all this get me my third Grand Overlord character?

ArenGesus

SweepsAllClowns wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

SweepsAllClowns wrote: »

West1389 wrote: »

See then it's good play on the NA side. I think your post said you got stuck in a spot. So I was saying be happy you get to watch others play. It could be worse and not be able to log in.

Even if its 5 mins of game time you gotta think that's 5 mins more than someone who could not log in. Gotta see the glass half full buddy.

Sure if pretending overpositive in sarcastic way, I could even be so happy about my situation that I'd keep on paying for ESO+ membership, it's just that great now! And yes my EU account got stuck immediately after Wrathstone download, support is aware and investigating, all tickets closed.

But you can stil watch videos from EU server on Youtube, take consolation in that. Furthermore, you may increase playback speed, in which case the game would run faster than if you actually played it.

Much wisdom here indeed, but does all this get me my third Grand Overlord character?

You make it sound like living vicariously is a bad thing. Isn't it enough to see other players on yt get grand overlord? That alone is well worth the cost of the monthly sub.