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ZOS, do you actually care anymore?

  • Lokey0024
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    I'm returning after a long time of not playing and I say ZOS is killing it. There is so many cool things they have done to improve the game. I mainly PvP and I'm impressed. I sat it summerset and listened to a bard sing while cleaning my inventory and ended up just listening till the set was done. Optimizing 2h/bow/staff to make set bonuses achievable, jewelry crafting, class tweaks etc. I'm enjoying the ride, take a step back and look at everything and you might to.
  • The Uninvited
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    My advice would be 100% to voice your complaints / concerns, but do it in a way that isn't sarcastic, passive aggressive, or down right abusive. You may just get a better response.

    The point is, we did that already many times before. It didn't work and we got ignored even then. So, after 5 years we are not taking it anymore and putting it nicely, simply because we got fed up with it.
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  • West1389
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    You need to be like lokey that's a model player. Take a walk around the game when feeling stressed. Go fishing, sit on a hill take I the sights. However there should be no complaints at all in these post. We have a saying learn it, love it, sub it. Nothing else matters.

    As always your friendly self proclaimed ZosDefender
  • The Uninvited
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    And talking about working in commercial business... I have been working in multinational customer service or sales departments for the better part of my life. In my experience, if just one department would get this much of complaints. people will get fired on the spot.
    Edited by The Uninvited on June 18, 2019 8:11PM
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  • SweepsAllClowns
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    Lokey0024 wrote: »
    I'm enjoying the ride, take a step back and look at everything and you might to.

    Fine I'll take 2 steps back and try if my account has started working again, no it's still stuck just like it's been for 3 months and 1 week already, but I'm definitely enjoying the ride as much as you are!
  • West1389
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    They would get fired if the complaints were real. This is all made up lies. Lag stands for lies against games. Remember that everytime you see lag. Zos is working around the clock. They dont even know what holidays are they get none.

    As always your friendly self proclaimed ZosDefender
  • TequilaFire
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    Now we are getting into stand up comedy. smh
  • SeveN085
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    West1389 wrote: »
    only thing that should be in a post is happy thoughts and praise of zos.

    No, that's reddit :D

    Edited by SeveN085 on June 18, 2019 9:06PM
  • idk
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    You sell things in the crownstore for ridiculous prices, which alot of people pay. Where is that money?
    Board members, shareholders, investors. :tongue:

    If those are more important than your customers that actually keep the lights on, I dont know what to say. The world has became a sad place.
    Remember when the games were made for gamers?
    Welcome to Corporate America (and other participating countries).

    Remember as well that it's only the corporate/publisher side which doesn't care about you. Generally most of the developer staff actually love the game and their community.

    This is very correct. Matt Firor on up are the business side. So those under Matt do care about the game but they hands are tied to what Matt and his bosses say needs to be done. Yes, Matt is the business side these days.
  • Wolfpaw
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    Lokey0024 wrote: »
    I'm returning after a long time of not playing and I say ZOS is killing it. There is so many cool things they have done to improve the game. I mainly PvP and I'm impressed. I sat it summerset and listened to a bard sing while cleaning my inventory and ended up just listening till the set was done. Optimizing 2h/bow/staff to make set bonuses achievable, jewelry crafting, class tweaks etc. I'm enjoying the ride, take a step back and look at everything and you might to.

    All those things are great qol updates, the problem shows when you put those things to use and the game begins to melt.

    If a bard could sing during loading screens during combat, blue screen critical error crashes, & freeze crashes during pvp it would be a bit better.😉
    Edited by Wolfpaw on June 18, 2019 8:59PM
  • geonsocal
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    West1389 wrote: »
    They would get fired if the complaints were real. This is all made up lies. Lag stands for lies against games. Remember that everytime you see lag. Zos is working around the clock. They dont even know what holidays are they get none.

    As always your friendly self proclaimed ZosDefender
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    Edited by geonsocal on June 18, 2019 9:00PM
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  • xxthir13enxx
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    West1389 wrote: »
    They would get fired if the complaints were real. This is all made up lies. Lag stands for lies against games. Remember that everytime you see lag. Zos is working around the clock. They dont even know what holidays are they get none.

    As always your friendly self proclaimed ZosDefender
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    https://youtu.be/SECVGN4Bsgg
  • Megatto
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    This is why ZOS need to make more servers. Their oh so special megaserver technology is clearly not working out!

    WE NEED MORE SERVERS!
    Remove loot boxes or riot
  • rotaugen454
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    Megatto wrote: »
    This is why ZOS need to make more servers. Their oh so special megaserver technology is clearly not working out!

    WE NEED MORE SERVERS!

    Needs more cowbell!
    "Get off my lawn!"
  • Goregrinder
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    idk wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    You sell things in the crownstore for ridiculous prices, which alot of people pay. Where is that money?
    Board members, shareholders, investors. :tongue:

    If those are more important than your customers that actually keep the lights on, I dont know what to say. The world has became a sad place.
    Remember when the games were made for gamers?
    Welcome to Corporate America (and other participating countries).

    Remember as well that it's only the corporate/publisher side which doesn't care about you. Generally most of the developer staff actually love the game and their community.

    This is very correct. Matt Firor on up are the business side. So those under Matt do care about the game but they hands are tied to what Matt and his bosses say needs to be done. Yes, Matt is the business side these days.

    Yup, because at the end of the day, you either run a business to make money, or you run a hobby. It can't be both.
  • ParaNostram
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    The devs care very much, the executives however...

    This is what profit motive does to gaming, folks. It's more profitable to shovel incomplete crap so the people with the money force devs to keep shoveling it out.
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  • OgnevkaFenella
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    Hey ugh, better late than never, right?

    Just registered here to add a voice. I haven't been playing much recently, but even in those rare hours the bugs would still find a way to spoil the experience - nothing special, just resetting bosses in overland/dungeons, stuck animations and minor stuff like this. But seeing the amount of broken things in Elsweyr patch really brings me down as I'm planning to play this game more and get into endgame content soon. But now with all the broken trials that seems like an unfair challenge to take on.

    And here's the thing - with other games I would just move on, find something else. ESO, however, holds a special spot for me, it's one the best games I've played and, most importantly, one with the most amazing community. To see it decline in its rise, when it's finally climbed out of its bad launch reputation, is so painful. Especially because I see so many people - among both players and developers - care so much about this game, but problems continue to pile up.

    I think ZOS care, but maybe not those who take decisions. And all the solutions I can think of have already been said here, and in threads before. People will continue to pay, ZOS will continue to push out amazing, but rushed content.
    If I were to ask for one thing, it would be: slow down with the DLCs. There are so many, and they are great. I've been playing for a year and I have done maybe 30% of the content or less, and I'm sure a lot of people still have so much to experience in this game. But if you slow down, take your time to work on smaller, less noticeable things - little annoying bugs, big ol' trial bugs, refine what you already have - the community, both casual and endgame, will be so much more grateful. I'm not even talking server improvements - clearly it's too big of an expense for the higher ups, and I know the dev team is probably not responsible. If the executives want to wait out the influx of players, they may never see them back, and ESO will be once again seen as a buggy TES spinoff no one cares to play.

    It's been said so many times over, but I just don't see any other way to voice it. Here's to hope.
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  • geonsocal
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    West1389 wrote: »
    They would get fired if the complaints were real. This is all made up lies. Lag stands for lies against games. Remember that everytime you see lag. Zos is working around the clock. They dont even know what holidays are they get none.

    As always your friendly self proclaimed ZosDefender
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    https://youtu.be/SECVGN4Bsgg
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    ZOS, do you actually care anymore?

    honestly, i don't really care if they care - all that really matters is whether or not i care...
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  • Bouldercleave
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    geonsocal wrote: »

    honestly, i don't really care if they care - all that really matters is whether or not i care...


    Nothing but hard truth in that statement right there.

  • Morgul667
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    I wonder if they stopped caring or if they never cared in the first place
  • RavenRoxie
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    solasub wrote: »
    why are we complaining? everything is fine....

    "HOUSING

    Improved window lighting for homes in Elsweyr."

    They can keep their lighting if the Essential Housing tools addon will work again -...- Back to the old fashion ways of trying to line walls up correctly with their awful editing tools >.<
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  • thegreat_one
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    Lol I actually thought that trash was supposed to turn to face u (or at least try) as a combat improvement. Not a bug..... U just cant step out of the way, u had to dodge cone reds.
    code65536 wrote: »
    But hey, did you see that fancy Elsweyr trailer that they spent a fortune making? The one where the protagonist can jump on a dragon's back to fight it? Surely this means we'll get dragon combat that's more interesting than hitting a barely-moving lump sitting in front of us on the ground. Right?... RIght?????

    /s

    I dunno, I saw a *** horse get Rekt by a dragon tail. That was good stuff...
  • jao0199
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    That only reminds me Todd saying about new servers on ESO for performance improvement.
    Yea, right...
  • Comixfan
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    Svenja wrote: »
    This, combined with the very, VERY poor server performance on PC EU, annoys me so much, I can't even find words for it anymore.

    It's not just PC EU. Xbox US has been atrociously bad server performance since the Elsweyr patch.
  • Comixfan
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    Uryel wrote: »
    Also, just because a game is massively multiplayer doesn't mean it has to be some boring dungeon grind. You and your narrow minded perspective should crawl back to WoW.

    WoW is far more than just a mere "boring dungeon grind". You'd know that if you actually bothered to at least read up on it.

    But then that wouldn't support your (failed) attempt at being insulting then would it?
  • Comixfan
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    Lokey0024 wrote: »
    I'm enjoying the ride, take a step back and look at everything and you might to.

    Thing is when I take a step back in game I end up on an unexpected loading screen. Then, after 2 or 3 "this may be a long load time" messages the game crashes me to my Xbox dashboard.

    Then it'll take me 3 or 4 tries of getting to character select, choosing my character, then the game crashing on the load screen before I actually load in successfully.

    Only to take a step back and have it happen all over again...
  • Comixfan
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    Megatto wrote: »
    This is why ZOS need to make more servers. Their oh so special megaserver technology is clearly not working out!

    WE NEED MORE SERVERS!

    Need Oceanic servers for PC/Xbox/PS4 at the very least!
  • Androconium
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    And talking about working in commercial business... I have been working in multinational customer service or sales departments for the better part of my life. In my experience, if just one department would get this much of complaints. people will get fired on the spot.


    The only option is to not spend any more money with Bethesda.
    If you come here to complain, you've already spent the money.


    See what they did there?

  • zvavi
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    I mean, maybe we should start putting out tickets. *** tons of them, one for every bug we encounter. I mean, will they ignore is even then?
  • Tigerseye
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    Lokey0024 wrote: »
    I'm returning after a long time of not playing and I say ZOS is killing it.

    Yeah, that's what they said, too.

    I think they're killing it too, just (very often) in a completely different way.

    Funny how one word, or phrase, can be (and often is) made to mean totally opposite things.

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