The "Balance" of Mag Sorcs

KurtAngle2 · June 2019

How do developers feel about having a class that can easily be played by turds being able to dish *** of damage, have the best mobility in the game, pets that *** up the targeting whilst dealing consistently HIGH damage and ABSURD heals and also the best shields in the game? They rightfully nerfed broken things like old Reflective Scales and even went for straight changes to skills that have always defined a class from the early release of ESO (Relentless Focus giving Minor Berserk), yet they can't freaking remove the entire *** class scaling off Magicka for EVERYTHING (Damage, Sustain and Survivability).

Pathetic really

pieratsos · June 2019

Its hard for relentless to define NB since the release of the game considering it didnt even exist back then.

psychotic13 · June 2019

Well Kurt, use the ankle lock..

psychotic13 · June 2019

Also, shields were changed, health and resistance is factored into them now, its not just about magicka. Though that being said, shields are stronger than ever now.

KurtAngle2 · June 2019

As I said NO CLASS can freely dip into a single stat and have such powerful returns in terms of BOTH Survivability and Damage. There isn't a single thing a Magicka Sorcerer is lacking right now and that's entirely wrong in terms of PvP balance

Insco851 · June 2019

How’s the neck, Kurt?

KurtAngle2 · June 2019

Insco851 wrote: »

How’s the neck, Kurt?

Not fine, a team of 4 Sorcs broke it

cHIIMEERa · June 2019

You’re pretty much a cheeseball if you play sorc. Atleast on PS4 EU

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Everyone but the dev teams knows it

Insco851 · June 2019

KurtAngle2 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

How’s the neck, Kurt?

Not fine, a team of 4 Sorcs broke it

It’s sad they needed 4 tbh. They should feel bad.

Insco851 · June 2019

cHIIMEERa wrote: »

You’re pretty much a cheeseball if you play sorc. Atleast on PS4 EU .

Everyone but the dev teams knows it

On basically every format, magsorc is cheeseball af.

oxygen_thief · June 2019

is it a whine thread for night blades?

Urvoth · June 2019

Show us on the doll where the sorcs hurt you.

Urvoth · June 2019

For real though, delete pets and you pretty much fix all the issues.

Montimer94 · June 2019

There are still some magsorcs that don’t like playing with pets, and we’re not so evil

Lokey0024 · June 2019

Urvoth wrote: »

Show us on the doll where the sorcs hurt you.

*Points to entire being*

Gilvoth · June 2019

give us back a proper shield breaker set that was took away.
reduce the damage output of sorcerer.
all thats needed.

oxygen_thief · June 2019

Gilvoth wrote: »

give us back a proper shield breaker set that was took away.
reduce the damage output of sorcerer.
all thats needed.

no its not enough. they should leave sorcs with light attacks only. there should be no pets, no streak, no shields, no wrath. just light attacks and nothing more.
i forgot about dark deal. how long will we tolerate this awful skill? they should rid of it too. oh and the curse of course. it should be dodgeable, blockable, reflectable and hit after 45 sec.

Insco851 · June 2019

oxygen_thief wrote: »

Gilvoth wrote: »

give us back a proper shield breaker set that was took away.
reduce the damage output of sorcerer.
all thats needed.

no its not enough. they should leave sorcs with light attacks only. there should be no pets, no streak, no shields, no wrath. just light attacks and nothing more.
i forgot about dark deal. how long will we tolerate this awful skill? they should rid of it too

For this 100%

gepe87 · June 2019

Streak nerfed - Magsorc adapted
Frag nerfed - Magsorc adapted
Shields nerfed - Magsorc adapted
Healing Ward nerfed - Magsorc adapted

Whats your problem now?

KurtAngle2 · June 2019

gepe87 wrote: »

Streak nerfed - Magsorc adapted
Frag nerfed - Magsorc adapted
Shields nerfed - Magsorc adapted
Healing Ward nerfed - Magsorc adapted

Whats your problem now?

Shields weren't really nerfed and the magsorcer got his pet ENORMOUSLY buffed to the point that they do *** of dps and healings whilst messing with targeting. All of this whilst maintaining great dps and best execute in the game

Adernath · June 2019

Looks like some people here have a L2P issue.

KurtAngle2 · June 2019

Adernath wrote: »

Looks like some people here have a L2P issue.

Not really and I'm pretty sure some big nerfs are coming for Mag Sorcs targeting their pets in the next DLC

ecru · June 2019

gepe87 wrote: »

Streak nerfed - Magsorc adapted
Frag nerfed - Magsorc adapted
Shields nerfed - Magsorc adapted
Healing Ward nerfed - Magsorc adapted

Whats your problem now?

These were barely nerfs. Streak is still the best mobility skill in the game, Frags was just buffed (pay attention to patch notes, lol), shields were not nerfed at all (30k resists on top of shields is cool and good), and pets were buffed by a tremendous degree which pretty much makes up for any perceived "nerfs". Petsorcs are by far the strongest dps in pve, of course translates over very well to pvp, with the pet itself (tormenter or matriarch) being a major contribution to that dps due to it's constant dps pressure. In any fight with a petsorc their pet will be about 20% of their outgoing dps, and this is through absolutely zero effort on their part. They don't have to use an ability to apply a dot like every other class needs to if they want to do damage, it's basically always there and always present, so that pressure never stops even while they're using their shield or whatever else. No other class/build really has the luxury of never having to stop outgoing DPS on their target.

evoniee · June 2019

crystal frag too much damage and rng based.
either reduce tooltip or make it a 3 skill / LA to proc

Didgerion · June 2019

Urvoth wrote: »

For real though, delete pets and you pretty much fix all the issues.

If they delete the pets they will need to add a heal, that most probably will scale of Spell Damage.

If you think that the mag-sorc hurts now wait until they fully spec into Spell Damage.

Watch out what your are asking for. Same thing happened to shields. Everyone cried for shields taking crit damage.
Well they are now. And sorcerers fully specked into impenetrable. And shields are stronger as result.

One more time - watch out what you are asking for.

PhoenixGrey · June 2019

Hey, look another nerf sorc thread signed by a potato.

farmed by a class meant for potatoes

Watch out for an incoming flood of potatoes in this thread

TBH mag sorc might have been top drawer in murkmire. Right now there are a few stam specs which are equally as good.

SirAndy · June 2019

KurtAngle2 wrote: »

How do developers feel about having a class that can easily be played by turds ...

It does rhyme with your name though ...

Ramber · June 2019

oxygen_thief wrote: »

is it a whine thread for night blades?

no its a complaint about sorcs or do you just ignore the persons point all the time? they are silly in pvp, thats why they are ALL over the place.

Derra · June 2019

psychotic13 wrote: »

Also, shields were changed, health and resistance is factored into them now, its not just about magicka. Though that being said, shields are stronger than ever now.

I don´t think that´s true universially.
Shields CAN be stronger than ever now. If you build for it sacrificing damage in the process.

However since the game doesn´t really reward players for doing that (building for dmg) - the games reality is most sorcs being quite tanky now.
I´d be all up for removing shieldstacking of harness + hardened ward given appropriate compensation with non pet dependant healing for sorcs.

Zer0_CooL · June 2019

I think this game needs a pvp campain where you can only choose one faction while the other two are runed by some bots or low payd zos employees who let the player faction win. Then the nerf threads will finaly have an end.

oxygen_thief · June 2019

Ramber wrote: »

oxygen_thief wrote: »

is it a whine thread for night blades?

no its a complaint about sorcs or do you just ignore the persons point all the time? they are silly in pvp, thats why they are ALL over the place.

What is their point?