Wood Elf/ Bosmer losing stealth passive, An open letter.

  • BlueRaven
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    KMarble wrote: »
    DenMoria wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Hopefully by this time tomorrow we will know if the passives will change.

    No they won't and you already knew this when the racials went live.

    Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)

    Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.

    Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.

    The rest of us don't have a problem.

    If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
    This game makes the parent company money 3 ways:
    - shares
    - sales of the game itself
    - and the one that truly keeps the servers up and running : subscriptions and expansions

    Sale of shares is the reason why there are events - events generate traffic to old areas and retains a residual population after events are over. The company can then show those numbers to investors as evidence that the game is alive and well.

    Sales of the game itself are not only a gamble (some expansions might not be well received), they don't keep the game going. Unlike a single player game, the economic model for a MMO isn't based on the initial purchase because, unlike a single player game, they need to keep the servers (and the people who work in the game) paid.

    Subscriptions and to an extent expansions are what keeps the game alive and running. I hope, for the sake of all of us who play this game, that the people in charge don't think like you and go "oh, well. It's just one person and/or small group". That is a good way to destroy their business.

    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Well I have been playing since beta on the pc/Mac. I am not sure if you understand the controversy over the racial changes made to bosmers or not, but the changes to their stealth passive (or rather their lack of a stealth passive) is what many of us are upset about. And the subject of this thread.

    Yes, Tamriel unlimited was a great change, but that’s a different subject entirely.
    They're trying to deflect (also I'd like to thank them for, once again, bumping the thread). Truth is, even the few who posted here telling us to shut up, can't come up with an argument - mind you, I'm not even say a good argument - that addresses the subject of this thread.
    anadandy wrote: »
    And there it is. I'm laying money down that this is the planned "open stealth to all" idea that was the reason Bosmer got the shaft.

    Vesture of Darloc Brae (Overland Elsweyr set)
    Set bonus
    (2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
    (3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
    (4 items) Reduces the radius you can be detected while sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of sneak by 10%.
    (5 items) While crouching, you restore 647 Magicka and Stamina and heal for 698 every second.

    Source

    They gutted the race to pimp a new set. (yes, overly dramatic)

    I will be trying this set on both a wood elf and a Khajiit when the PTS goes live. As I've pointed before, the original idea was for Khajiit to have a 5 meters radius, but it had to be taken back to 3 meters. Unless my math was completely wrong, there was only a 1 meter leeway from playable to broken.

    We have 14 slots total, one of the sets that already exists only needs 3 pieces to reduce the radius, the other requires 5 pieces, which will still allow player to wear this new set and have 2 slots for something else.

    This set effectively gives Khajiits back the 2 meters that were taken away from their passive.

    I was under the impression that Bethesda was a private company. What stock are they traded under?

    They're not. ZOS is a private company that owns any number of studios including all of the Bethesda variations.

    They, of course, have their own stockholders, but is most definately not public.

    I don't think Linda Carter would allow that. :)

    I knew Bethesda was owned by ZOS, but many people use the ZOS and Bethesda monikers interchangeably (as do I).

    I looked up to see if they were a private company years ago, I just wanted to know if anything had changed.
  • Ratzkifal
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    KMarble wrote: »
    DenMoria wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Hopefully by this time tomorrow we will know if the passives will change.

    No they won't and you already knew this when the racials went live.

    Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)

    Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.

    Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.

    The rest of us don't have a problem.

    If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
    This game makes the parent company money 3 ways:
    - shares
    - sales of the game itself
    - and the one that truly keeps the servers up and running : subscriptions and expansions

    Sale of shares is the reason why there are events - events generate traffic to old areas and retains a residual population after events are over. The company can then show those numbers to investors as evidence that the game is alive and well.

    Sales of the game itself are not only a gamble (some expansions might not be well received), they don't keep the game going. Unlike a single player game, the economic model for a MMO isn't based on the initial purchase because, unlike a single player game, they need to keep the servers (and the people who work in the game) paid.

    Subscriptions and to an extent expansions are what keeps the game alive and running. I hope, for the sake of all of us who play this game, that the people in charge don't think like you and go "oh, well. It's just one person and/or small group". That is a good way to destroy their business.

    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Well I have been playing since beta on the pc/Mac. I am not sure if you understand the controversy over the racial changes made to bosmers or not, but the changes to their stealth passive (or rather their lack of a stealth passive) is what many of us are upset about. And the subject of this thread.

    Yes, Tamriel unlimited was a great change, but that’s a different subject entirely.
    They're trying to deflect (also I'd like to thank them for, once again, bumping the thread). Truth is, even the few who posted here telling us to shut up, can't come up with an argument - mind you, I'm not even say a good argument - that addresses the subject of this thread.
    anadandy wrote: »
    And there it is. I'm laying money down that this is the planned "open stealth to all" idea that was the reason Bosmer got the shaft.

    Vesture of Darloc Brae (Overland Elsweyr set)
    Set bonus
    (2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
    (3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
    (4 items) Reduces the radius you can be detected while sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of sneak by 10%.
    (5 items) While crouching, you restore 647 Magicka and Stamina and heal for 698 every second.

    Source

    They gutted the race to pimp a new set. (yes, overly dramatic)

    I will be trying this set on both a wood elf and a Khajiit when the PTS goes live. As I've pointed before, the original idea was for Khajiit to have a 5 meters radius, but it had to be taken back to 3 meters. Unless my math was completely wrong, there was only a 1 meter leeway from playable to broken.

    We have 14 slots total, one of the sets that already exists only needs 3 pieces to reduce the radius, the other requires 5 pieces, which will still allow player to wear this new set and have 2 slots for something else.

    This set effectively gives Khajiits back the 2 meters that were taken away from their passive.

    I was under the impression that Bethesda was a private company. What stock are they traded under?

    They're not. ZOS is a private company that owns any number of studios including all of the Bethesda variations.

    They, of course, have their own stockholders, but is most definately not public.

    I don't think Linda Carter would allow that. :)
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    DenMoria wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    KMarble wrote: »
    DenMoria wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Hopefully by this time tomorrow we will know if the passives will change.

    No they won't and you already knew this when the racials went live.

    Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)

    Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.

    Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.

    The rest of us don't have a problem.

    If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
    This game makes the parent company money 3 ways:
    - shares
    - sales of the game itself
    - and the one that truly keeps the servers up and running : subscriptions and expansions

    Sale of shares is the reason why there are events - events generate traffic to old areas and retains a residual population after events are over. The company can then show those numbers to investors as evidence that the game is alive and well.

    Sales of the game itself are not only a gamble (some expansions might not be well received), they don't keep the game going. Unlike a single player game, the economic model for a MMO isn't based on the initial purchase because, unlike a single player game, they need to keep the servers (and the people who work in the game) paid.

    Subscriptions and to an extent expansions are what keeps the game alive and running. I hope, for the sake of all of us who play this game, that the people in charge don't think like you and go "oh, well. It's just one person and/or small group". That is a good way to destroy their business.

    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Well I have been playing since beta on the pc/Mac. I am not sure if you understand the controversy over the racial changes made to bosmers or not, but the changes to their stealth passive (or rather their lack of a stealth passive) is what many of us are upset about. And the subject of this thread.

    Yes, Tamriel unlimited was a great change, but that’s a different subject entirely.
    They're trying to deflect (also I'd like to thank them for, once again, bumping the thread). Truth is, even the few who posted here telling us to shut up, can't come up with an argument - mind you, I'm not even say a good argument - that addresses the subject of this thread.
    anadandy wrote: »
    And there it is. I'm laying money down that this is the planned "open stealth to all" idea that was the reason Bosmer got the shaft.

    Vesture of Darloc Brae (Overland Elsweyr set)
    Set bonus
    (2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
    (3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
    (4 items) Reduces the radius you can be detected while sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of sneak by 10%.
    (5 items) While crouching, you restore 647 Magicka and Stamina and heal for 698 every second.

    Source

    They gutted the race to pimp a new set. (yes, overly dramatic)

    I will be trying this set on both a wood elf and a Khajiit when the PTS goes live. As I've pointed before, the original idea was for Khajiit to have a 5 meters radius, but it had to be taken back to 3 meters. Unless my math was completely wrong, there was only a 1 meter leeway from playable to broken.

    We have 14 slots total, one of the sets that already exists only needs 3 pieces to reduce the radius, the other requires 5 pieces, which will still allow player to wear this new set and have 2 slots for something else.

    This set effectively gives Khajiits back the 2 meters that were taken away from their passive.

    I was under the impression that Bethesda was a private company. What stock are they traded under?

    They're not. ZOS is a private company that owns any number of studios including all of the Bethesda variations.

    They, of course, have their own stockholders, but is most definately not public.

    I don't think Linda Carter would allow that. :)

    I knew Bethesda was owned by ZOS, but many people use the ZOS and Bethesda monikers interchangeably (as do I).

    I looked up to see if they were a private company years ago, I just wanted to know if anything had changed.

    ZOS is not Zenimax Media. Zenimax Media owns ZOS and Bethesda
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • Kater_Murr
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    Uhm, a bit of off-topic, but I suppouse many of us here are not only Bosmer, but Nightblades too, so I thought it might be of interest. It seems that with Elsweyr we are going to lose our Minor Berserk.

    *rant incoming*

    So first they made my main, Altmer Sorcerer, inferior to some Bretons. Then they took away stealth from my second character, Bosmer Nightblade. As my third (and looks like my last) character, Dunmer Nightblade, was kinda unscathed, they decided to make her inferior too. I think it's time for me to part with this game.

    *rant over*

    No, seriously. I've already wouldn't buy Elsweyr, at least not until they return stealth to my Bosmer, but this... this is a bit too aggravating for me.

    *rant over. this time - for sure*
    Edited by Kater_Murr on March 29, 2019 8:07PM
  • BlueRaven
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    DenMoria wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    KMarble wrote: »
    DenMoria wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Hopefully by this time tomorrow we will know if the passives will change.

    No they won't and you already knew this when the racials went live.

    Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)

    Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.

    Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.

    The rest of us don't have a problem.

    If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
    This game makes the parent company money 3 ways:
    - shares
    - sales of the game itself
    - and the one that truly keeps the servers up and running : subscriptions and expansions

    Sale of shares is the reason why there are events - events generate traffic to old areas and retains a residual population after events are over. The company can then show those numbers to investors as evidence that the game is alive and well.

    Sales of the game itself are not only a gamble (some expansions might not be well received), they don't keep the game going. Unlike a single player game, the economic model for a MMO isn't based on the initial purchase because, unlike a single player game, they need to keep the servers (and the people who work in the game) paid.

    Subscriptions and to an extent expansions are what keeps the game alive and running. I hope, for the sake of all of us who play this game, that the people in charge don't think like you and go "oh, well. It's just one person and/or small group". That is a good way to destroy their business.

    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Well I have been playing since beta on the pc/Mac. I am not sure if you understand the controversy over the racial changes made to bosmers or not, but the changes to their stealth passive (or rather their lack of a stealth passive) is what many of us are upset about. And the subject of this thread.

    Yes, Tamriel unlimited was a great change, but that’s a different subject entirely.
    They're trying to deflect (also I'd like to thank them for, once again, bumping the thread). Truth is, even the few who posted here telling us to shut up, can't come up with an argument - mind you, I'm not even say a good argument - that addresses the subject of this thread.
    anadandy wrote: »
    And there it is. I'm laying money down that this is the planned "open stealth to all" idea that was the reason Bosmer got the shaft.

    Vesture of Darloc Brae (Overland Elsweyr set)
    Set bonus
    (2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
    (3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
    (4 items) Reduces the radius you can be detected while sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of sneak by 10%.
    (5 items) While crouching, you restore 647 Magicka and Stamina and heal for 698 every second.

    Source

    They gutted the race to pimp a new set. (yes, overly dramatic)

    I will be trying this set on both a wood elf and a Khajiit when the PTS goes live. As I've pointed before, the original idea was for Khajiit to have a 5 meters radius, but it had to be taken back to 3 meters. Unless my math was completely wrong, there was only a 1 meter leeway from playable to broken.

    We have 14 slots total, one of the sets that already exists only needs 3 pieces to reduce the radius, the other requires 5 pieces, which will still allow player to wear this new set and have 2 slots for something else.

    This set effectively gives Khajiits back the 2 meters that were taken away from their passive.

    I was under the impression that Bethesda was a private company. What stock are they traded under?

    They're not. ZOS is a private company that owns any number of studios including all of the Bethesda variations.

    They, of course, have their own stockholders, but is most definately not public.

    I don't think Linda Carter would allow that. :)
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    DenMoria wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    KMarble wrote: »
    DenMoria wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Hopefully by this time tomorrow we will know if the passives will change.

    No they won't and you already knew this when the racials went live.

    Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)

    Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.

    Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.

    The rest of us don't have a problem.

    If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
    This game makes the parent company money 3 ways:
    - shares
    - sales of the game itself
    - and the one that truly keeps the servers up and running : subscriptions and expansions

    Sale of shares is the reason why there are events - events generate traffic to old areas and retains a residual population after events are over. The company can then show those numbers to investors as evidence that the game is alive and well.

    Sales of the game itself are not only a gamble (some expansions might not be well received), they don't keep the game going. Unlike a single player game, the economic model for a MMO isn't based on the initial purchase because, unlike a single player game, they need to keep the servers (and the people who work in the game) paid.

    Subscriptions and to an extent expansions are what keeps the game alive and running. I hope, for the sake of all of us who play this game, that the people in charge don't think like you and go "oh, well. It's just one person and/or small group". That is a good way to destroy their business.

    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Well I have been playing since beta on the pc/Mac. I am not sure if you understand the controversy over the racial changes made to bosmers or not, but the changes to their stealth passive (or rather their lack of a stealth passive) is what many of us are upset about. And the subject of this thread.

    Yes, Tamriel unlimited was a great change, but that’s a different subject entirely.
    They're trying to deflect (also I'd like to thank them for, once again, bumping the thread). Truth is, even the few who posted here telling us to shut up, can't come up with an argument - mind you, I'm not even say a good argument - that addresses the subject of this thread.
    anadandy wrote: »
    And there it is. I'm laying money down that this is the planned "open stealth to all" idea that was the reason Bosmer got the shaft.

    Vesture of Darloc Brae (Overland Elsweyr set)
    Set bonus
    (2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
    (3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
    (4 items) Reduces the radius you can be detected while sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of sneak by 10%.
    (5 items) While crouching, you restore 647 Magicka and Stamina and heal for 698 every second.

    Source

    They gutted the race to pimp a new set. (yes, overly dramatic)

    I will be trying this set on both a wood elf and a Khajiit when the PTS goes live. As I've pointed before, the original idea was for Khajiit to have a 5 meters radius, but it had to be taken back to 3 meters. Unless my math was completely wrong, there was only a 1 meter leeway from playable to broken.

    We have 14 slots total, one of the sets that already exists only needs 3 pieces to reduce the radius, the other requires 5 pieces, which will still allow player to wear this new set and have 2 slots for something else.

    This set effectively gives Khajiits back the 2 meters that were taken away from their passive.

    I was under the impression that Bethesda was a private company. What stock are they traded under?

    They're not. ZOS is a private company that owns any number of studios including all of the Bethesda variations.

    They, of course, have their own stockholders, but is most definately not public.

    I don't think Linda Carter would allow that. :)

    I knew Bethesda was owned by ZOS, but many people use the ZOS and Bethesda monikers interchangeably (as do I).

    I looked up to see if they were a private company years ago, I just wanted to know if anything had changed.

    ZOS is not Zenimax Media. Zenimax Media owns ZOS and Bethesda

    I think we are breaking down into needless semantics at this point but sure. And they are all part of one big PRIVATE company.
    Kater_Murr wrote: »
    Uhm, a bit of off-topic, but I suppouse many of us here are not only Bosmer, but Nightblades too, so I thought it might be of interest. It seems that with Elsweyr we are going to lose our Minor Berserk.

    *rant incoming*

    So first they made my main, Altmer Sorcerer, inferior to some Bretons. Then they took away stealth from my second character, Bosmer Nightblade. As my third (and looks like my last) character, Dunmer Nightblade, was kinda unscathed, now they decided to make her inferior too. Looks like it's time for me to part with this game.

    *rant over*

    No, seriously. I've already wouldn't buy Elsweyr, at least not until they return stealth to my Bosmer, but this... this is a bit too aggravating for me.

    *rant over. this time - for sure*

    Oh but didn’t you hear? It’s still pre PTS so it is all subject to change! :|

    •••

    Anyway I am in Boston waiting to get in to the Bethesda event. There are hundreds of people on line here. So I am not sure if I will be able to actually ask anyone of import anything relevant.

    Still I will try.
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    Btw, the rumor of what class changes might be gets two responses.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/465659/where-were-the-upcoming-class-changes-officially-released-at/p1

    Here, 45+ pages, nothing.
  • Kater_Murr
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Oh but didn’t you hear? It’s still pre PTS so it is all subject to change! :|

    Yeah, very funny ;)
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Anyway I am in Boston waiting to get in to the Bethesda event. There are hundreds of people on line here. So I am not sure if I will be able to actually ask anyone of import anything relevant.

    Still I will try.

    Y'ffre help you to tell them our story, brother.
  • IwakuraLain42
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    They're not. ZOS is a private company that owns any number of studios including all of the Bethesda variations.

    They, of course, have their own stockholders, but is most definately not public.

    I don't think Linda Carter would allow that. :)

    Actually it's Zenimax Media that holds both Bethesda Softworks and Zenimax Online. And yes, they are privately traded.

    If you want to know how they are making money you only need to look at the stuff that ZOS works on and how they present themself. As noted the sources of income are:
    • Selling new copies of the game
    • Subscriptions
    • Cash Store

    The main reason for each Chapter and the reason they are marketed as standalone content is that they want to sell as many copies each year as possible. That's the reason they rode the nostalgica train Morrowind so hard and why they choosed Summerset last year (never seen in Tamriel content before). And that's also the reason why we have Elswyr this year. Apparently the last chapter wasn't so successful, so they had to had another joker from ES content this year: Dragons !

    Combine this with one of the most predatory cash shops I've seen in any game and you know where they earn their money. Keeping players by keeping them content or by fixing the game have a very low priority. Heck, it took them five years to implement something as basic as a search function for their trading system.
  • luizpaulom17
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    Stop crying m8... U just want that passive back so U can keep using cloak and snipe on BGs, like most elves and Cats used tu do... Get over it...

    I hated losing my cat 8% crit, was crying on forums for it... and when changes came to Live got 2k more DPS on first try... They did a good job over all, ony orc now seems a bit OP, but still its more balanced.

    Actually my ability to use cloak and snipe is completely unaffected, so you lose there.
    What the gankers would complain about was the loss of the 10% damage boost out of stealth, which we haven't complained about at all, so you lose there.
    We've already addressed this multiple times, so you lose there.

    kthnxbye

    Wood Elves lost their passives, so U lost there. U guys kept crying here everyday and ZOS still doesnt really care, so U lost there. One monte after new patch came to live, ZOS is focus on necro, U keep crying here and nothing has changed, so U lost there!

    The same guys are comenting here in this post tô keep it loud and on top... Just give up, its gone guys, get over!
  • Ogou
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Btw, the rumor of what class changes might be gets two responses.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/465659/where-were-the-upcoming-class-changes-officially-released-at/p1

    Here, 45+ pages, nothing.

    The way I see it there's no way for ZOS to give an answer here that will do less harm than just not saying anything.

    So this is just a tug of war between the people in this thread and ZOS. The first side to let go loses. Though I really wonder how long ZOS can keep this up.
  • anadandy
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    The same guys are comenting here in this post tô keep it loud and on top... Just give up, its gone guys, get over!

    You do realize that you just did that yourself, right?

    Irony pancakes for all!
  • Cundu_Ertur
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Btw, the rumor of what class changes might be gets two responses.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/465659/where-were-the-upcoming-class-changes-officially-released-at/p1

    Here, 45+ pages, nothing.

    Not true. We had a mod come in to tell us to behave.
    That's almost, kinda sorta, like feedback. If you stand waaaaaaaay far away and squint a bit.
    Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.
  • BlueRaven
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    So I did get to talk to a few people. The issue is they are all so disarmingly nice it’s hard to emphasize anything. I made my case to a few people. But I don’t know.

    Btw Elsweyr looks amazing from a graphic standpoint and it plays well. The opening is fun to play although the map does not feel huge.
  • max_only
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    I guess I'm going to try and post something wholesome and uplifting. Usually "weird opinions" on the forum are getting shouted down immediately on the forum. S***posters come and make fun of you etc. The fact that this didn't happen here and that there is only a handful of people voicing a different opinion (and always only tell us to stop and accept rather than give counter arguments) is a sign that most people either agree with us but don't feel like adding anything as we are doing a good job already or they simply don't care enough to engage in the discussion, meaning they also won't mind if we get what we want.

    I also want to shout out to @max_only and verbally hug him for making this thread and because I think he could use a hug or two right now.
    That's only if he wants a hug. . . I mean, he can 'detect' you coming and would not be able to 'hide' very efficiently! 😉
    anadandy wrote: »
    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    I also want to shout out to @max_only and verbally hug him for making this thread and because I think he could use a hug or two right now.

    Hear, hear! *tips virtual mug*

    *makes a lot of noise and immediately gets spotted by a guard* Dang it!! ;)

    You lot are invited to the barbecue lol
    Don't sweat it, bro, all guards are Bosmer now. Bosmer have always been guards. We've always been at war with Eastasia.

    I see what you did there. The Ministry of Defense would like a word with you.
    Edited by max_only on March 29, 2019 6:33PM
    #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
    #OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
    || CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
    ""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    So I did get to talk to a few people. The issue is they are all so disarmingly nice it’s hard to emphasize anything. I made my case to a few people. But I don’t know.

    Btw Elsweyr looks amazing from a graphic standpoint and it plays well. The opening is fun to play although the map does not feel huge.

    Thanks for taking one for the team, I appreciate you "fighting" the good fight. If you're still there for the 6:30 stream from the event - toss us a gang sign or something :)
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    I will be there! I am at this event for the duration.
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    So I did get to talk to a few people. The issue is they are all so disarmingly nice it’s hard to emphasize anything. I made my case to a few people. But I don’t know.

    Btw Elsweyr looks amazing from a graphic standpoint and it plays well. The opening is fun to play although the map does not feel huge.
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    I will be there! I am at this event for the duration.

    Have fun and make it memorable above all else! I know it’s hard to be critical at a convention, so many positive vibes surrounding you.
    #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
    #OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
    || CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
    ""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom
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    I’m watching the stream and I’m getting... annoyed lol
    #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
    #OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
    || CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
    ""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom
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    max_only wrote: »
    I’m watching the stream and I’m getting... annoyed lol

    The eso one is later on. I in the audience right now.

    Maybe it’s something about being here in person, but I can’t wipe a goofy grin off my face.
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    BlueRaven wrote: »

    The eso one is later on. I in the audience right now.

    Maybe it’s something about being here in person, but I can’t wipe a goofy grin off my face.

    There's probably a Bosmer nearby that is keeping you from hiding it.
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    I’m watching the stream and I’m getting... annoyed lol

    The eso one is later on. I in the audience right now.

    Maybe it’s something about being here in person, but I can’t wipe a goofy grin off my face.

    I’m infected with excitement as well, I’m just listening to them saying they pay attention tothe lore and I’m not sure how to feel....
    #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
    #OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
    || CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
    ""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom
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    max_only wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    I’m watching the stream and I’m getting... annoyed lol

    The eso one is later on. I in the audience right now.

    Maybe it’s something about being here in person, but I can’t wipe a goofy grin off my face.

    I’m infected with excitement as well, I’m just listening to them saying they pay attention tothe lore and I’m not sure how to feel....

    You should have come with me. I spoke with Shimmer, she is super nice as well. I am really enjoying myself.
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    Edited by Kater_Murr on March 29, 2019 8:19PM
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    “We’re surrounded. That simplifies the problem!”
    Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.
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    max_only wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    I’m watching the stream and I’m getting... annoyed lol

    The eso one is later on. I in the audience right now.

    Maybe it’s something about being here in person, but I can’t wipe a goofy grin off my face.

    I’m infected with excitement as well, I’m just listening to them saying they pay attention tothe lore and I’m not sure how to feel....

    LMAO yeah that's a good one. They obviously don't even know the lore in the very game they work on.
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    max_only wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    I’m watching the stream and I’m getting... annoyed lol

    The eso one is later on. I in the audience right now.

    Maybe it’s something about being here in person, but I can’t wipe a goofy grin off my face.

    I’m infected with excitement as well, I’m just listening to them saying they pay attention tothe lore and I’m not sure how to feel....

    @BlueRaven if they do a Q & A, here's a good reddit comment I made that you can quickly reference for in-game lore quotes and where you can find these books in ESO. So you can challenge their claim to follow lore after Bosmer changes. Hope you get a chance!

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/b31gsu/comment/eixmxj4

    But glad you're enjoying yourself and you travelled there safely!
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    Let's hope the reason for the long silence is what Gina said. They are trying to get everyone on their teams on the same page first so that nobody says something that contradicts what another said. That will probably result in combat and lore team having to sort things out and maybe that means they'll only talk with us as soon as they have a compromise ready. Who knows.
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
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    @Eiron77 I will try! But so far they have not taken any questions from the audience on any panel.

    Edit: I got to talk with Pete Hines (briefly)! I did not talk about the anything game related. Just a quick polite chat.
    Edited by BlueRaven on March 29, 2019 9:59PM
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    @Eiron77 I will try! But so far they have not taken any questions from the audience on any panel.

    Edit: I got to talk with Pete Hines (briefly)! I did not talk about the anything game related. Just a quick polite chat.

    I get it. I just wanted to make sure the info is there and ready. So you can reference it quickly and be able to say at least the emphasised portions within the appropriate amount of time. And what @Ratzkifal said is prbly true as well.

    I'm just making sure that if you get your chance you have ammunition and locked&loaded.
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    Freaking necromancers
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    BlueRaven wrote: »

    Edit: I got to talk with Pete Hines (briefly)! I did not talk about the anything game related. Just a quick polite chat.

    I am insanely jealous!! I'm so mad I had to work this weekend or I would have taken the train up - the ONE DAMN weekend we have a Go Live on Monday and its this one!
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