Wood Elf/ Bosmer losing stealth passive, An open letter.
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Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -2 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
If this was WoW Seraphayel would be known as a “White Knight” a person who defends the game maker company beyond any reason to the point of absurdity.
If it is because of some financial insecurity and the need to prove the money they spent is well placed, or just for enjoyment of seeing people get upset over their comments, or some other odd reason, the best course of action is just to ignore them.
I will be in Boston tomorrow and I will be at that hall all day. I will make sure our voice is heard.11 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
I don't mind my subscription. To me it's worth it.
Since I''m not competitive and couldn't care less about mini/maxing and certainly rarely, if ever, do PvP, the other perks are worth my time.
Honestly - I encourage my friends to subscribe and to play, but, then again, we just play for fun. It's a video game, not something truly important and $15USD a month is a nominal thing.0 -
KMarble✭✭✭✭✭A_Silverius wrote: »I wanted to get in some playtime on my Bosmer Stamblade before commenting here. This has been my main toon for years and I was definitely nervous when I saw they were changing their passives.
Pre Wrathstone: My Bosmer Stamblade cleared all Craglorn HM's, VAS, VMOL, VHOF, and achieved Flawless Conqueror, and was a solid player in Cyrodiil.
Since Wrathstone: I've done all of those things and I'm still loving it in Cyrodiil. The extra penetration and speed after roll dodge is pretty niche but I'm loving it. For end game content at least, Bosmer is in a better place than it was before.
Now if you're on a Bosmer that isn't a nightblade, you may have slightly more difficulty than before doing DB sacraments, thieves guild heists, and pickpocketing maybe. But if you've trying those on any race on a non nightblade I'd recommend Invis, Speed pots. They're in the game, use them.
The only other reason I see people complaining about this passive change is lore. In other games, Bosmer are sneaky. This isn't other games. Zos runs it, they write the lore, they decide how different races will perform and if you don't like it and want to play a game where Bosmer get stealth passives, go play that game.
Overall I think Bosmer benefited greatly from this change and am very happy with where it is.
I love how you didn't mention stealth detection anywhere:)
The stealth detection passive is as worthless in any end game content as the argonian super swimmers and the Khajiit's pickpocket chance. Imo passives like these are simply there to add flavor to that race. Why Zos decided to change this one; don't know, don't care as it hasn't changed a single aspect of the game as far as I'm concerned.
Both the increased swimming speed and the pickpocket chances have uses, though.3 -
anadandy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
I don't mind my subscription. To me it's worth it.
Since I''m not competitive and couldn't care less about mini/maxing and certainly rarely, if ever, do PvP, the other perks are worth my time.
Honestly - I encourage my friends to subscribe and to play, but, then again, we just play for fun. It's a video game, not something truly important and $15USD a month is a nominal thing.
I never minded the subscription, and I absolutely thought it was worth it. I also play for fun, not a min/maxer, etc. But I have been very disappointed in the way the game has been going of late, and while I still enjoy playing from time to time with my friends - the way they handled this racial change mess was the decider. I am not encouraged to give them any more financial support than what I already have in buying the game and paying for the sub all these years.Edited by anadandy on March 28, 2019 3:48PM3 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.
Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.
The rest of us don't have a problem.
If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
Most of us play and subscribe and don't really care about much other than server issues, lag time and "bots".
Racial passives and minor adjustments to skills just aren't that important in the grand scheme of things.
What I want is unlimited Health, Magicka and Stamina. Nothing less. At level 2 as a perk, of course.2 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
I don't mind my subscription. To me it's worth it.
Since I''m not competitive and couldn't care less about mini/maxing and certainly rarely, if ever, do PvP, the other perks are worth my time.
Honestly - I encourage my friends to subscribe and to play, but, then again, we just play for fun. It's a video game, not something truly important and $15USD a month is a nominal thing.
I never minded the subscription, and I absolutely thought it was worth it. I also play for fun, not a min/maxer, etc. But I have been very disappointed in the way the game has been going of late, and while I still enjoy playing from time to time with my friends - the way they handled this racial change mess was the decider. I am not encouraged to give them any more financial support than what I already have in buying the game and paying for the sub all these years.
Since I've been here since release on the PS4, frankly, it's a heck of a lot better than it was.
Admittedly, sometimes I need to take breaks, but I just love the "leveled" enemy thing.
Now it's like Skyrim and I AM A GOD!
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BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
I don't mind my subscription. To me it's worth it.
Since I''m not competitive and couldn't care less about mini/maxing and certainly rarely, if ever, do PvP, the other perks are worth my time.
Honestly - I encourage my friends to subscribe and to play, but, then again, we just play for fun. It's a video game, not something truly important and $15USD a month is a nominal thing.
I never minded the subscription, and I absolutely thought it was worth it. I also play for fun, not a min/maxer, etc. But I have been very disappointed in the way the game has been going of late, and while I still enjoy playing from time to time with my friends - the way they handled this racial change mess was the decider. I am not encouraged to give them any more financial support than what I already have in buying the game and paying for the sub all these years.
Since I've been here since release on the PS4, frankly, it's a heck of a lot better than it was.
Admittedly, sometimes I need to take breaks, but I just love the "leveled" enemy thing.
Now it's like Skyrim and I AM A GOD!
Well I have been playing since beta on the pc/Mac. I am not sure if you understand the controversy over the racial changes made to bosmers or not, but the changes to their stealth passive (or rather their lack of a stealth passive) is what many of us are upset about. And the subject of this thread.
Yes, Tamriel unlimited was a great change, but that’s a different subject entirely.
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Cundu_Ertur✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Hopefully by this time tomorrow we will know if the passives will change.
No they won't and you already knew this when the racials went live. Again, there was no indication that anything would change. We had a PTR cycle with commentary they adjusted some racials and others were not touched. ZOS settled down on them and maybe it's time to finally accept it.
Never. THERE ARE NO BOSMER NOW. I'm sorry that you cannot understand the lore of the past 25 years behind this assertion, but it is there, it hasn't gone anywhere, and it will not change.Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.12 -
wedgebert✭✭✭✭✭Cundu_Ertur wrote: »Never. THERE ARE NO BOSMER NOW. I'm sorry that you cannot understand the lore of the past 25 years behind this assertion, but it is there, it hasn't gone anywhere, and it will not change.
I totally agree and almost went and made a new post called something like "Can we rename Bosmer to something else since they're not Bosmer" but figured it would just get ignored and/or reported.
I read through the class rep application thread and there's apparently a class rep discord. Maybe some of us need to get on there and reiterate our points directly to the reps and get their thoughts8 -
Koronach✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Hopefully by this time tomorrow we will know if the passives will change.
No they won't and you already knew this when the racials went live. Again, there was no indication that anything would change. We had a PTR cycle with commentary they adjusted some racials and others were not touched. ZOS settled down on them and maybe it's time to finally accept it.
Nope not as long as they are breaking ingrained lore within ESO itself. They either fix lore breaking changes or they are proving they are straight up liars. They said they wanted to preserve established lore and did the opposite. A lot of people care about the games lore and when the game says you should have something and you don't, that's broken and should be fixed.Edited by Koronach on March 28, 2019 4:29PM9 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Hopefully by this time tomorrow we will know if the passives will change.
No they won't and you already knew this when the racials went live. Again, there was no indication that anything would change. We had a PTR cycle with commentary they adjusted some racials and others were not touched. ZOS settled down on them and maybe it's time to finally accept it.
Nope not as long as they are breaking ingrained lore within ESO itself. They either fix lore breaking changes or they are proving they are straight up liars. They said they wanted to preserve established lore and did the opposite. A lot of people care about the games lore and when the game says you should have something and you don't, that's broken and should be fixed.
Reps were providing feedback, even on PTS. Can't say they pushed a lot for stealth issue, but a lot of them clearly stated that orc is hilariously OP. As you can see - ZOS reaction - "we are happy with new racial passives".Edited by MartiniDaniels on March 28, 2019 4:32PM8 -
Cundu_Ertur✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Rename Bosmer to Imga and give them ape faces, and that would be more lore appropriate. We've only got one picture of an Imga from Daggerfall era concept art, and there's no tail so those people who don't like tails won't have to race change. No stealth + no special aptitude for archery = not Bosmer. But Imga are wide open, you can do anything with them, they've never been playable before.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:ImgaTaking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.9 -
Khipu✭✭✭If I delete my Imga or change her name will I get that name back upon creating my most beloved character, for the past 14 years, over again, into something that's anything but an Imga? Or, is there a period of time in which I could get the name back or would she be lost forever if I recreated her? I just need to do something ff'ss
btw, "Not a Bosmer" was taken almost immediately by a clever and quick soul, ha!
Sejreia-Efeliel-Olympias-Emerald Ire-Asifi Kare-Skips~on~Starfire-Everbloom-Sugrahdun-Elsreia-CeruvalPC NAMMORPG:2004-2019Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty. - @Cundu_Ertur“Keep your face always toward the sunshine - and shadows will fall behind you.” ― Walt Whitman7 -
anadandy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And there it is. I'm laying money down that this is the planned "open stealth to all" idea that was the reason Bosmer got the shaft.
Vesture of Darloc Brae (Overland Elsweyr set)
Set bonus
(2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Reduces the radius you can be detected while sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of sneak by 10%.
(5 items) While crouching, you restore 647 Magicka and Stamina and heal for 698 every second.
Source
They gutted the race to pimp a new set. (yes, overly dramatic)11 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And there it is. I'm laying money down that this is the planned "open stealth to all" idea that was the reason Bosmer got the shaft.
Vesture of Darloc Brae (Overland Elsweyr set)
Set bonus
(2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Reduces the radius you can be detected while sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of sneak by 10%.
(5 items) While crouching, you restore 647 Magicka and Stamina and heal for 698 every second.
Source
They gutted the race to pimp a new set. (yes, overly dramatic)
ZOS is making some serious shuffle with this set. 5th bonus equivalent recovery is hilarious and permacloaked NBs will rock. To counter act this demand for detection will jump. And here we are, irreplaceable member of any PVP group - Imga with way of air and sentry set!
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Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Cundu_Ertur wrote: »Never. THERE ARE NO BOSMER NOW. I'm sorry that you cannot understand the lore of the past 25 years behind this assertion, but it is there, it hasn't gone anywhere, and it will not change.
I totally agree and almost went and made a new post called something like "Can we rename Bosmer to something else since they're not Bosmer" but figured it would just get ignored and/or reported.
I still think they should now be called Falmer. Ugly, blind and corrupted elves.... but hey, they can smell your stealthed behind from three meters away! Watch them roll through you and knock you down (Morihaus) like mutated circus acrobats, leaving behind a rune to blow you up (Eternal Hunt)..... as they tumble into shameful ostracism: the laughing stock of proper stand up swordsmen and spell casters everywhere. Form a line at your forward camp to receive your participation trophy and uncracked geode ration... if you survived the lag spike loading screen.
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭And there it is. I'm laying money down that this is the planned "open stealth to all" idea that was the reason Bosmer got the shaft.
Vesture of Darloc Brae (Overland Elsweyr set)
Set bonus
(2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Reduces the radius you can be detected while sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of sneak by 10%.
(5 items) While crouching, you restore 647 Magicka and Stamina and heal for 698 every second.
Source
They gutted the race to pimp a new set. (yes, overly dramatic)
Is that like "Rugs" or "Boots". I mean, "gutting the race"...0 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Another thing I'm curious about: can Bosmer NPC guards now detect sneaking criminals 3 meters farther away? If not, then they're not really Bosmer, are they? Or is that the preferred job of Bosmer who flunked out of stealth detection class?7 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.
Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.
The rest of us don't have a problem.
If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
Most of us play and subscribe and don't really care about much other than server issues, lag time and "bots".
Racial passives and minor adjustments to skills just aren't that important in the grand scheme of things.
What I want is unlimited Health, Magicka and Stamina. Nothing less. At level 2 as a perk, of course.
You missed the mark. I have absolutely no problem. It's the Bosmer crowd in this thread that can't accept what's reality now.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -3 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.
Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.
The rest of us don't have a problem.
If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
Most of us play and subscribe and don't really care about much other than server issues, lag time and "bots".
Racial passives and minor adjustments to skills just aren't that important in the grand scheme of things.
What I want is unlimited Health, Magicka and Stamina. Nothing less. At level 2 as a perk, of course.
You missed the mark. I have absolutely no problem. It's the Bosmer crowd in this thread that can't accept what's reality now.
Touche and I apologize if I misread.
Thank you for setting me straight.
I do love my bosmers though.
They're short, they're cute and they're awesome with a bow.
I don't really care otherwise.
It's all about the looks to me.
You might be able to tell that I'm not very good at PvP. 0 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.
Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.
The rest of us don't have a problem.
If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
Most of us play and subscribe and don't really care about much other than server issues, lag time and "bots".
Racial passives and minor adjustments to skills just aren't that important in the grand scheme of things.
What I want is unlimited Health, Magicka and Stamina. Nothing less. At level 2 as a perk, of course.
You missed the mark. I have absolutely no problem. It's the Bosmer crowd in this thread that can't accept what's reality now.
Touche and I apologize if I misread.
Thank you for setting me straight.
I do love my bosmers though.
They're short, they're cute and they're awesome with a bow.
I don't really care otherwise.
It's all about the looks to me.
You might be able to tell that I'm not very good at PvP.
Well my comment was just an answer to another guy who said he quit his ESO+.
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And they have antlers! That's the best about Bosmer.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -1 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.
Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.
The rest of us don't have a problem.
If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
Most of us play and subscribe and don't really care about much other than server issues, lag time and "bots".
Racial passives and minor adjustments to skills just aren't that important in the grand scheme of things.
What I want is unlimited Health, Magicka and Stamina. Nothing less. At level 2 as a perk, of course.
You missed the mark. I have absolutely no problem. It's the Bosmer crowd in this thread that can't accept what's reality now.
Touche and I apologize if I misread.
Thank you for setting me straight.
I do love my bosmers though.
They're short, they're cute and they're awesome with a bow.
I don't really care otherwise.
It's all about the looks to me.
You might be able to tell that I'm not very good at PvP.
Well my comment was just an answer to another guy who said he quit his ESO+.
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And they have antlers! That's the best about Bosmer.
That's a shame. He'll be back though. We always come back. 0 -
Khipu✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
If this was WoW Seraphayel would be known as a “White Knight” a person who defends the game maker company beyond any reason to the point of absurdity.
If it is because of some financial insecurity and the need to prove the money they spent is well placed, or just for enjoyment of seeing people get upset over their comments, or some other odd reason, the best course of action is just to ignore them.
I will be in Boston tomorrow and I will be at that hall all day. I will make sure our voice is heard.
Aww c'mon~~ but Lyris got to teach Tharn about the anatomy of the nose, by both telling him why it was created, and punching him directly in it, right in front of the Vestige!
Obviously people aren't going to get very far in this endeavor quiting ESO+, on the other hand, they're going to do with their money whatever they choose to, as always. So there's that.
Honestly though, I hope you travel safe and you get some enjoyment there, above all else! Sejreia-Efeliel-Olympias-Emerald Ire-Asifi Kare-Skips~on~Starfire-Everbloom-Sugrahdun-Elsreia-CeruvalPC NAMMORPG:2004-2019Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty. - @Cundu_Ertur“Keep your face always toward the sunshine - and shadows will fall behind you.” ― Walt Whitman1 -
wedgebert✭✭✭✭✭
Touche and I apologize if I misread.
Thank you for setting me straight.
I do love my bosmers though.
They're short, they're cute and they're awesome with a bow.
I don't really care otherwise.
It's all about the looks to me.
You might be able to tell that I'm not very good at PvP.
Except that Bosmer in ESO have no particular aptitude with the bow. They get a minor XP buff, but that's it. While both Orc and Dumner get actual bow damage increases and make superior archers.9 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
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Touche and I apologize if I misread.
Thank you for setting me straight.
I do love my bosmers though.
They're short, they're cute and they're awesome with a bow.
I don't really care otherwise.
It's all about the looks to me.
You might be able to tell that I'm not very good at PvP.
Except that Bosmer in ESO have no particular aptitude with the bow. They get a minor XP buff, but that's it. While both Orc and Dumner get actual bow damage increases and make superior archers.
Don't care.
Orc - warrior, usually DK 'cause it doesn't make sense to go Templar. Warden maybe. In no case magicka and always 2 handed.
Dunmer - sorcerer or DK. Nothing else.
Bosmer - cute and uses a bow.
I know... I know... stupid. But that's me.1 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.
Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.
The rest of us don't have a problem.
If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
Most of us play and subscribe and don't really care about much other than server issues, lag time and "bots".
Racial passives and minor adjustments to skills just aren't that important in the grand scheme of things.
What I want is unlimited Health, Magicka and Stamina. Nothing less. At level 2 as a perk, of course.
You missed the mark. I have absolutely no problem. It's the Bosmer crowd in this thread that can't accept what's reality now.
Touche and I apologize if I misread.
Thank you for setting me straight.
I do love my bosmers though.
They're short, they're cute and they're awesome with a bow.
I don't really care otherwise.
It's all about the looks to me.
You might be able to tell that I'm not very good at PvP.
Well my comment was just an answer to another guy who said he quit his ESO+.
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And they have antlers! That's the best about Bosmer.
That's a shame. He'll be back though. We always come back.
OMG, it was nothing about ESO+, you can't cancel it if it is already running. I just said that i don't want to spend any additional money on game where devs are not listening to players. It's not only about stealth, it's about overall ignorance, poor performance, lack of variety. This case with stealth is just bright example of how they listen and how they preserve lore. I never played MMORPGs before, only reason why I came here was Morrowind and Skyrim. Unfortunately, ESO is not compatible with them, it's spin-off, parallel reality which won't end in 3rd Era which majority of players prefer:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/458118/favourite-era
I still continue to play mostly because of friends in game, and I spend 90% of time in group content and other 10% are writs and surveys. I have "3rd era" ESO running in parallel in my mind, and since group content is just a small stories which doesn't contradict original game atmosphere, I'm fine with them. Remove of stealth just cut last part of my immersion which was keeping me in overland, so one less reason to play it, and one less reason to buy Elsweyr. I don't think about it as "sacrifice" or "voting with wallet". I simply don't want to buy it, no point to.8 -
Ogou✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »
Oh, it's everybody knowledge that racials won't be revisited in nearest couple of years. This thread and those Q&A is just a reminder not to put a single cent in this game. (though i put a lot before and regularly, literally buying anything i like)
Well then punish ZOS with your wallet.
Why? And what punishment? You're just one person and/or a small group.
The rest of us don't have a problem.
If you want to "punish" a multi-billion corporation by not giving them chump change, go for it.
Most of us play and subscribe and don't really care about much other than server issues, lag time and "bots".
Racial passives and minor adjustments to skills just aren't that important in the grand scheme of things.
What I want is unlimited Health, Magicka and Stamina. Nothing less. At level 2 as a perk, of course.
You missed the mark. I have absolutely no problem. It's the Bosmer crowd in this thread that can't accept what's reality now.
Touche and I apologize if I misread.
Thank you for setting me straight.
I do love my bosmers though.
They're short, they're cute and they're awesome with a bow.
I don't really care otherwise.
It's all about the looks to me.
You might be able to tell that I'm not very good at PvP.
Well my comment was just an answer to another guy who said he quit his ESO+.
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And they have antlers! That's the best about Bosmer.
That's a shame. He'll be back though. We always come back.
OMG, it was nothing about ESO+, you can't cancel it if it is already running. I just said that i don't want to spend any additional money on game where devs are not listening to players. It's not only about stealth, it's about overall ignorance, poor performance, lack of variety. This case with stealth is just bright example of how they listen and how they preserve lore. I never played MMORPGs before, only reason why I came here was Morrowind and Skyrim. Unfortunately, ESO is not compatible with them, it's spin-off, parallel reality which won't end in 3rd Era which majority of players prefer:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/458118/favourite-era
I still continue to play mostly because of friends in game, and I spend 90% of time in group content and other 10% are writs and surveys. I have "3rd era" ESO running in parallel in my mind, and since group content is just a small stories which doesn't contradict original game atmosphere, I'm fine with them. Remove of stealth just cut last part of my immersion which was keeping me in overland, so one less reason to play it, and one less reason to buy Elsweyr. I don't think about it as "sacrifice" or "voting with wallet". I simply don't want to buy it, no point to.
What do you mean it won't end in the 3rd era? Where else would it go?Edited by Ogou on March 28, 2019 6:50PM0 -
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Orcs, Dunmer, Reguards, and/or Imperials are all better with a bow.they're awesome with a bow.
Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.6
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