Combat Team News and Updates

Niaver

I wish good luck to Wrobel, he seemed like a nice guy on Eso Live shows. The balance was not perfect, but let's be honest, it never is. Overall I enjoyed class design and that's what matters.
I also welcome Wheeler in his new role. I have concerns though, seeing as Pvp has been struggling with many issues over these 5 years.

Grumblestiltskin

I hope he roll dodged out of the building when he left

Sad times though.

eso_lags

@ZOS_RichLambert so who came up with voldenrung? Please tell me it was wrobel.

Seenoevil

Good luck to wrobel in the future

Is this the real reason Gilliamtherogue stopped streaming?? Understudy wrobel and fill his boots??? Some changes do have Gilliam written all over them *cough* incap stun *cough*

philips666_18b16_ESO

Good luck Wrobel. I wish you the best in the future.

Jakx

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

I wanted to let everyone know that Eric Wrobel is no longer with the company. We appreciate his efforts over the years on ESO and wish him well in his future endeavors.

Going forward, we will be restructuring the team to encapsulate both PVE and PVP teams, with Brian Wheeler taking over as Lead Combat Designer. Brian has years of experience in MMOs and combat – on both Dark Age of Camelot and Warhammer Online, he was heavily involved in class balance in both PVE and PVP. I know the team is in good hands and look forward to seeing what the future brings for that team.

PS - Bashing or trolling will NOT be tolerated at all in this thread. You have been warned…

@ZOS_RichLambert What does this mean in relation to the combat vision for the game? We were told a forthcoming post was to be made concerning the teams vision. Is this now super far away?

ezio45

@ZOS_BrianWheeler happy to have you Is there anything you can say about how you plan to proceed going forward with balance?

PhaeroX

Good move, now time to promote @Gilliamtherogue !

maxjapank

A big thanks to Wrobel for helping to create such engaging combat. I have immensely enjoyed ESO. And best wishes to Wheeler in his new position.

Minalan

Be honest, did Eric roll dodge and then crouch out of the building?

Mojmir

/lurk

olsborg

I always liked Brian, and his view on things..

theyancey

I am always both sad and glad to see changes like this. Good luck to both going forward! @ZOS_RichLambert, does this mean that the newly announced decimation of the solo PvE player via requiring group dungeon completions will be rethought? It seems like you have a singular opportunity now to begin to enhance both PvE & PvP along with solo & group players. Some of the best moments in ESO was when we were presented with long and challenging group dungeon type quests that were central to the core game's progress but where the other group members were NPCs. Players were able to enjoy the events as slow or as fast as they wished. There was none of the tedium and animosity all too frequently found in ordinary groups and none of the group finder issues as well. It worked spectacularly well in the main game. It would do just as well now. BTW, enjoyed the Twitch. Y'all all looked great and clearly enjoyed the moment. Thanks!

Sylvermynx

I haven't been around long enough to know anything about anyone. *insert generic platitude about good luck etc. here*

StormChaser3000

Was it Wrobel who nerfed sorc shield?

Cough...
*they don't tolerate trolling....must not say this joke about nerf.... must not say it*...

Anyway, good luck with your future endeavors.

frozywozy

Congrats Brian

AzraelKrieg

May Wrobel find warm sands wherever he goes. Congrats to Wheeler.

Girl_Number8

Idk if this is a good thing as I feel there should be two lead combat designers, one for PvE and one for PvP that just focused on those areas and then compared notes to make better changes altogether. I do wish Wrobel the best of luck. You could always see his passion for the game and I certainly do feel he was given a monumental task with perhaps not enough support.

Congratulations Brian Wheeler, for your new job as lead combat designer of ESO. Hopefully we will see much more of you in the community

Be sure to ask for a raise.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Thanks for your service Wrobel, Gl Brian

ecru

does this mean bg's will be two teams like every other game now?

notimetocare

Ertosi wrote: »

With this recent change, are the upcoming racial passives going to be reviewed in depth?

What's most concerning is some of the changes made that remove the effectiveness of some of the most icon TES racial builds:

Removing bonus damage to fire removes the heart from the Dunmer. For ESO specifically, this combined with the lower of max stat has effectively hamstrung Dunmer Firemages and Dumner MagDKs, leaving Altmer as the much more effective choice.

Removing bonus to sneak and damage from stealth from the Bosmer remove one of their most iconic abilities as stealthy little forest elves. And to make it worse for them these are replaced with a bonus to speed after a dodge roll which is redundant as most use a bow anyways which already has that ability. Edit: And which was replaced with bonuses to detection, which is only useful to PvP and worthless in all other aspects of the game; most would argue its worthless in PvP as well. Please at the very least switch this back to straight up stealth.

These are just the two most obvious hits to classic TES identity to races, but they're the most important as these two races appear to be left behind in the dust compared to how the other races are weathering the changes.

Really? Because as a long time TES player, ESO was the first time I ever remember seeing bonuses like this.
Skyrim - A power skill, some bonuses to skill lines (starting higher, not a higher max)
Oblivion - Higher/lower starting attribues, higher starting skill lines, differences in starting disposition based on PC race and individual npcs (If i recall the system right)
Morrowind - Attributes and skill differences
Daggerfall - Attribute bonuses
Arena - Ok... I didnt play it, i was like 2 at the time lol

Every game has had flat boosts to attributes or skill lines and that is basically it. When exactly did Dunmer get an extra percentage in Fire damage output? Oh, ESO? Im guessing that Bosmer doing more damage in stealth is the same way... You have no idea about the 'classic race' identities because you don't even know what those bonuses were...

Red_Feather

stamblades watch out

notimetocare

1mirg wrote: »

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Brian Wheeler taking over as Lead Combat Designer. Brian has years of experience in MMOs and combat – on both Dark Age of Camelot and Warhammer Online, he was heavily involved in class balance in both PVE and PVP

I'm just gonna come out and say this:

I played both of those games and I loathed the combat in them as I found them too stiff. So, having list those games does not make this feel like it's in "good hands" in my point of view. But I'll just keep silent and watch how things play out under his leadership in combat design.

DAoC feels stiff because the controls are ancient. I mean ***, I played it when it was new and I was 11. Back then, it was amazing, now I can't go back to it.

Wont talk about Warhammer, I never had an interest in playing. Though I did for about 2hr because a friend made me (he bought it lol)

Point is, he was involved with other games and knows more than a rookie out of college. Keep in mind DAoC is still active... lol

maboleth

Also, to me this also sounds like they are trimming their team. Some either work for IP#2 or left the company.

The creative director also seems like he's doing Matt's part of the job as well.

SanguineMyBrother

Well this was unexpected. Good luck to all.

mychaelo

eso_lags wrote: »

@ZOS_RichLambert so who came up with voldenrung? Please tell me it was wrobel.

@eso_lags It was literally said by Rich during the EW announcement stream that Volendrung (actually, the whole 'Artifacts in Cyro' thing) was Wheeler's idea. I guess you didn't watch it.

Zathras

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

I wanted to let everyone know that Eric Wrobel is no longer with the company. We appreciate his efforts over the years on ESO and wish him well in his future endeavors.

Going forward, we will be restructuring the team to encapsulate both PVE and PVP teams, with Brian Wheeler taking over as Lead Combat Designer. Brian has years of experience in MMOs and combat – on both Dark Age of Camelot and Warhammer Online, he was heavily involved in class balance in both PVE and PVP. I know the team is in good hands and look forward to seeing what the future brings for that team.

PS - Bashing or trolling will NOT be tolerated at all in this thread. You have been warned…

I'm looking forward to the change.

I played DAoC, and Warhammer for a short while, so I'm hopeful that Brian will bring some much needed goodness to ESO.

Wifeaggro13

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

I wanted to let everyone know that Eric Wrobel is no longer with the company. We appreciate his efforts over the years on ESO and wish him well in his future endeavors.

Going forward, we will be restructuring the team to encapsulate both PVE and PVP teams, with Brian Wheeler taking over as Lead Combat Designer. Brian has years of experience in MMOs and combat – on both Dark Age of Camelot and Warhammer Online, he was heavily involved in class balance in both PVE and PVP. I know the team is in good hands and look forward to seeing what the future brings for that team.

PS - Bashing or trolling will NOT be tolerated at all in this thread. You have been warned…

good luck mr wheeler here is hoping the community can communicate with you on their concerns and desires

Ragnarock41

I wish them both good luck, and definitely will be looking to hear from the combat team in the future.

zyk

Thank you very much Mr. Wrobel.

Good luck Mr. Wheeler.