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Templars PvP - Detailed Guide, Suggestions, Advice, etc. - Elsweyr

  • StarOfElyon
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    I can't beat stam toons in melee range. They hit harder and are tankier. My magplar is wearing Cyrodiils Light and Seducers with three damage glyphs on jewelry. Any tips?
  • Iskiab
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    I can't beat stam toons in melee range. They hit harder and are tankier. My magplar is wearing Cyrodiils Light and Seducers with three damage glyphs on jewelry. Any tips?

    Yea, you’re wearing two sustain sets, your damage is low. Drop one and go NMA instead.

    If you’re doing BGs go infused weapon damage, if you go into Cyro too might as well keep arcane. I also prefer 2x swift jewellery.

    If you’re purely Cyro I haven’t tried it but I bet scathing mage and NMA would work since sustain is better.

    I wear bright throat and NMA, don’t have the same issue, just pick your spots.

    Sweep healing is based on damage done, go all in on damage until you can’t anymore and you hit your sustain absolute limit. Then light - toppling - sweeps takes care of most people, dark flare for tanky types.

    DKs - keep yourself topped off and watch out for their counter punch. Usually requires a dark flare.
    Stamwarden - watch out for the bugs, I don’t do well against them
    StamNB - joke
    Stamsorc - if they don’t onslaught you win, if they land it kite, if you survive you win
    Stamnecro - make sure you cleanse the defile and don’t get close until your full combo is ready or you’ll be eating blastbones to the face
    Stamtemplar - stalemate, waste of time

    My full combo is: light - dark flare - toppling - sweeps. I cut it short a lot depending on the opponent
    Edited by Iskiab on January 12, 2020 10:40PM
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  • EtTuBrutus
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    I can't beat stam toons in melee range. They hit harder and are tankier. My magplar is wearing Cyrodiils Light and Seducers with three damage glyphs on jewelry. Any tips?

    Cyros light is to niche and worthless on defense. It doesn't make you tanky, like popular belief.
  • StarOfElyon
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    Who isn't wearing NMA right now?
  • StarOfElyon
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    Something tells me it's so good right now that everyone is going to put it on, only to have it get nerfed next patch. lol
  • Iskiab
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    Something tells me it's so good right now that everyone is going to put it on, only to have it get nerfed next patch. lol

    It’s not everyone, just stam and magtemplars. Maybe magnecro IDK.

    Sorcs and Wardens scale better with mag, NB’s usually front bar cloak making the cost increase problematic. It’s only really good on classes that scale well with wp/sp as a 1 bar set with back bar potatoes.
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  • UppGRAYxDD
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    Something tells me it's so good right now that everyone is going to put it on, only to have it get nerfed next patch. lol

    It’s good ;)
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  • Akinos
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    Who isn't wearing NMA right now?

    I'm not. :)
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  • EtTuBrutus
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    Akinos wrote: »
    Who isn't wearing NMA right now?

    I'm not. :)

    What are you wearing, babe.
  • technohic
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    I personally run NMA front bar, willpower backbar where my heals and buffs are and I block to avoid the cost increase, and crafty alfiq with trifood. If I want more recovery , I can run BTB and use spring loaded infusion to trade some stats but so far I'm good. May try that for a no CP build.
  • Neoauspex
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    Who isn't wearing NMA right now?

    I'm not. :)

    What are you wearing, babe.

    Khakis.
  • Rhaegar75
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    Who isn't wearing NMA right now?

    I'm not. :)

    What are you wearing, babe.

    what gear are you using these days?
  • Akinos
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    Who isn't wearing NMA right now?

    I'm not. :)

    What are you wearing, babe.

    balorg, bright throat and ironblood.
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  • EtTuBrutus
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    Akinos wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    Who isn't wearing NMA right now?

    I'm not. :)

    What are you wearing, babe.

    balorg, bright throat and ironblood.

    Lol really? Couldn't imagine moving that slow. I'll check out your channel for some play. Is it bar-able?
  • Akinos
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    Who isn't wearing NMA right now?

    I'm not. :)

    What are you wearing, babe.

    balorg, bright throat and ironblood.

    Lol really? Couldn't imagine moving that slow. I'll check out your channel for some play. Is it bar-able?

    It's only about 8% slower with accel drain, race against time and windrunning passive. on my magnecro it is anyways. on my templar race against time and toppling charge is plenty fast to get around with. And yeah it can be back barred.
    Edited by Akinos on January 15, 2020 7:43AM
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  • Destyran
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    Ok I just came back I’m gonna use BTB shackle valk till I can farm amber and get rid of BTB what food should I use I have lightning SnB should I use frost staff? is vamp and mist still good? I solo Cyrodiil
  • Jimmy_The_Fixer
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Ok I just came back I’m gonna use BTB shackle valk till I can farm amber and get rid of BTB what food should I use I have lightning SnB should I use frost staff? is vamp and mist still good? I solo Cyrodiil

    Clockwork Citrus Filet is probably your best food since you’re already way overloaded with stam sustain while running shackle/amber.

    Lightning over frost for sure, as long as you’re jabbing as a spammable.

    I like RAT over mist, vampire is a good deal against most players but I personally don’t run vamp since I dislike being hard countered by mDKs.
  • Iskiab
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Ok I just came back I’m gonna use BTB shackle valk till I can farm amber and get rid of BTB what food should I use I have lightning SnB should I use frost staff? is vamp and mist still good? I solo Cyrodiil

    Amber and shackle are pretty interchangeable, I don’t know if amber’s worth farming.

    For solo cyrodiil I went mist and 2x swift. You’ll do fine in 1v1s, but you’ll encounter a lot of small scale groups. 2‘s doable, 3+ it gets hard.

    I’m used to magblade where I can peace out if things get hectic. Solo magplar’s okay but Zerg surfing I found more practical, just stay near and not with them so they don’t steal all your healing and pick off stragglers.
    Edited by Iskiab on January 15, 2020 2:30PM
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  • Destyran
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    Ok so I got shackle BTB and Valkyn using spring loaded infusion/witch mother’s lighting staff from sword and shield back. All Impen powered sword and infused lighting I’m a high elf and use degeneration barrage purifying light vamps bane and jabs. I have started using magelight on bar with comet and defend for max mag I don’t use the ultimate. I had eclipse but now it goes on my body and I’m not sure of mechanics. Also I have encountered stamina Necros and they hit hard AF
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    Also what is NMA I can’t find it?
  • Qbiken
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Also what is NMA I can’t find it?

    New Moon Acolyte (Craftable set)
  • Destyran
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    Omg it looks amazing

    (2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical, Adds 833 Spell Critical
    (3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage, Adds 129 Spell Damage
    (4 items) Adds 1487 Physical Penetration, Adds 1487 Spell Penetration
    (5 items) Adds 481 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage. Increases the cost of your active abilities by 5%.

    So BTB and this ? Or shackle and this?
  • Destyran
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Omg it looks amazing

    (2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical, Adds 833 Spell Critical
    (3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage, Adds 129 Spell Damage
    (4 items) Adds 1487 Physical Penetration, Adds 1487 Spell Penetration
    (5 items) Adds 481 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage. Increases the cost of your active abilities by 5%.

    So BTB and this ? Or shackle and this?

    Seen the new balorgs set too does that mean ultimates is more expensive making it give more damage??
  • Kartalin
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    Omg it looks amazing

    (2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical, Adds 833 Spell Critical
    (3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage, Adds 129 Spell Damage
    (4 items) Adds 1487 Physical Penetration, Adds 1487 Spell Penetration
    (5 items) Adds 481 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage. Increases the cost of your active abilities by 5%.

    So BTB and this ? Or shackle and this?

    Seen the new balorgs set too does that mean ultimates is more expensive making it give more damage??

    Essentially, yeah
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  • Destyran
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    Kartalin wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    Omg it looks amazing

    (2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical, Adds 833 Spell Critical
    (3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage, Adds 129 Spell Damage
    (4 items) Adds 1487 Physical Penetration, Adds 1487 Spell Penetration
    (5 items) Adds 481 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage. Increases the cost of your active abilities by 5%.

    So BTB and this ? Or shackle and this?

    Seen the new balorgs set too does that mean ultimates is more expensive making it give more damage??

    Essentially, yeah

    So what about NMA overwhelming balorgs and Regen food or glyphs
  • Iskiab
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Omg it looks amazing

    (2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical, Adds 833 Spell Critical
    (3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage, Adds 129 Spell Damage
    (4 items) Adds 1487 Physical Penetration, Adds 1487 Spell Penetration
    (5 items) Adds 481 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage. Increases the cost of your active abilities by 5%.

    So BTB and this ? Or shackle and this?

    I went BTB, Altmer and Double Bloody Mara for BGs. Something like shackle or Alfiq and tri stat would be better for Cyro. I run low stam and yolo in BGs because dying isn’t as much of a pain in the butt.

    Mist is also one of my favourite skills. I love vamp.
    Edited by Iskiab on January 15, 2020 3:42PM
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  • Sanguinor2
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    Destyran wrote: »

    Seen the new balorgs set too does that mean ultimates is more expensive making it give more damage??

    Nah thats not how balorgh operates. Balorgh gives you weapon/spell Damage depending on the amount of ult you have not the amount of ult an ult Costs so NMA wont do anything with it since you cannot increase the cap of 500.
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  • EtTuBrutus
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    I don't think ive lagged in about 2 week's... i mean played. But im running nma/btb. That'll be a good set up for years. Probably building a character for farming towers with buddies if i talk them into playing through ps4 lag. We've all kinda moved on.
  • Rhaegar75
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    I don't think ive lagged in about 2 week's... i mean played. But im running nma/btb. That'll be a good set up for years. Probably building a character for farming towers with buddies if i talk them into playing through ps4 lag. We've all kinda moved on.

    is NMA thaaaaaat much better than Julianos?
  • Iskiab
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    Rhaegar75 wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    I don't think ive lagged in about 2 week's... i mean played. But im running nma/btb. That'll be a good set up for years. Probably building a character for farming towers with buddies if i talk them into playing through ps4 lag. We've all kinda moved on.

    is NMA thaaaaaat much better than Julianos?

    Julianos? Most definitely. Sweeps gives you minor sorcery, so with minor and major the more sp the better.
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