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Templars PvP - Detailed Guide, Suggestions, Advice, etc. - Elsweyr
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BNOC✭✭✭✭✭Any one on pc put together a plar pvp build yet for dragonhold.
Drops on xbox next week and considering options
hardly imagine it's going to be much different, if at all.
The class has got a lot of options but I don't see any reason any of them will be worse or better.
Scathing Mage and direct damage sets will open up as a more viable option when sweeps are working I guess but i can't see
them being that great.
Very rarely do I have to change a thing on Templar, some setups are just effective full time.
vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)0 -
Reaper_00✭✭✭✭Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »Im not 100% settled on my stamplar yet. Running 5 7th backbar, 5 spriggan front bar, 2 piece blessing of potentates, Troll King, steed and 1 piece swift and its fun. I had been backbarring bow for roll for major expedition but now trying RAT on it to run 1h shield
I been seeing a lot of Stamplars running SNB backbar on Console. I don't see the appeal with 7th, honestly. I am having way better success with Fury (Chest/Legs/Jewelry) and Spriggs front bar/BRP DW backbar and BS.
I think since console patch dropped today I am going to test out NMA+Sprigg (or BA)+BS.
7th is bar-able. The health regen with the new food is nice too.
which food you speaking of?
Bewitched Sugar Skulls presumably. They are good. Bought several hundred of them when they just hit the guild stores.
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casparian✭✭✭✭✭
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Scathing Mage is currently bugged; it does not proc from Sweeps. If that bug ever gets fixed I will run it on magplar and never take it off; it has been an underrated set for years.Edited by casparian on November 5, 2019 4:12PM7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.0 -
EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭
Of course this amazing developer team makes sweeps direct damage and not proc scaling mage...Edited by EtTuBrutus on November 5, 2019 6:29PM0 -
Jabbs_Giggity✭✭✭✭✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »@Jabbs_Giggity sugar skulls
Is it a FOOD though, or actually a DRINK? and If drink, does it work with BP?0 -
Jabbs_Giggity✭✭✭✭✭
Scathing Mage is currently bugged; it does not proc from Sweeps. If that bug ever gets fixed I will run it on magplar and never take it off; it has been an underrated set for years.
Report the S H I T outta this in the bug section.0 -
EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »@Jabbs_Giggity sugar skulls
Is it a FOOD though, or actually a DRINK? and If drink, does it work with BP?
I didn't test with bpEdited by EtTuBrutus on November 5, 2019 8:12PM0 -
Akinos✭✭✭✭✭
✭Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »@Jabbs_Giggity sugar skulls
Is it a FOOD though, or actually a DRINK? and If drink, does it work with BP?
it's a food.PC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp0 -
Jabbs_Giggity✭✭✭✭✭Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »@Jabbs_Giggity sugar skulls
Is it a FOOD though, or actually a DRINK? and If drink, does it work with BP?
it's a food.
Lame...and also can someone confirm that investing in Max stats is now essentially pointless for WD/SD?0 -
EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »@Jabbs_Giggity sugar skulls
Is it a FOOD though, or actually a DRINK? and If drink, does it work with BP?
it's a food.
Lame...and also can someone confirm that investing in Max stats is now essentially pointless for WD/SD?
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StarOfElyon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Holy balls. My character feels completely feeble now. I'm hitting people with Vampire's Bane and they're running around like lololololol. My one dot is worthless now.0 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭
Scathing Mage is currently bugged; it does not proc from Sweeps. If that bug ever gets fixed I will run it on magplar and never take it off; it has been an underrated set for years.
Yeah it's a bug with sweeps though isn't it, because other dd is proccing it. That's what I meant, as soon as sweeps are proccing it, it'll be viable.
I actually used it a little a few months ago to try it but it wasn't amazing, I couldn't check my uptime on console etc though so might be a lot better once sweeps are working.vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)0 -
EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭
Scathing Mage is currently bugged; it does not proc from Sweeps. If that bug ever gets fixed I will run it on magplar and never take it off; it has been an underrated set for years.
Yeah it's a bug with sweeps though isn't it, because other dd is proccing it. That's what I meant, as soon as sweeps are proccing it, it'll be viable.
I actually used it a little a few months ago to try it but it wasn't amazing, I couldn't check my uptime on console etc though so might be a lot better once sweeps are working.
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BNOC✭✭✭✭✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »
Scathing Mage is currently bugged; it does not proc from Sweeps. If that bug ever gets fixed I will run it on magplar and never take it off; it has been an underrated set for years.
Yeah it's a bug with sweeps though isn't it, because other dd is proccing it. That's what I meant, as soon as sweeps are proccing it, it'll be viable.
I actually used it a little a few months ago to try it but it wasn't amazing, I couldn't check my uptime on console etc though so might be a lot better once sweeps are working.
The real question is why not just run acolyte
Or that, hadn't even seen itvMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)0 -
UppGRAYxDD✭✭✭✭✭
✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »
Scathing Mage is currently bugged; it does not proc from Sweeps. If that bug ever gets fixed I will run it on magplar and never take it off; it has been an underrated set for years.
Yeah it's a bug with sweeps though isn't it, because other dd is proccing it. That's what I meant, as soon as sweeps are proccing it, it'll be viable.
I actually used it a little a few months ago to try it but it wasn't amazing, I couldn't check my uptime on console etc though so might be a lot better once sweeps are working.
The real question is why not just run acolyte
The truth right here... been testing acolyte for a gankplar build atm and it great. Too bad dark flare is a shell of its former glory 😔. I do think that acolyte + recovery/max stat set + Breton = profit..Edited by UppGRAYxDD on November 7, 2019 2:02PM"Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."0 -
Jabbs_Giggity✭✭✭✭✭UppGRAYxDD wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »
Scathing Mage is currently bugged; it does not proc from Sweeps. If that bug ever gets fixed I will run it on magplar and never take it off; it has been an underrated set for years.
Yeah it's a bug with sweeps though isn't it, because other dd is proccing it. That's what I meant, as soon as sweeps are proccing it, it'll be viable.
I actually used it a little a few months ago to try it but it wasn't amazing, I couldn't check my uptime on console etc though so might be a lot better once sweeps are working.
The real question is why not just run acolyte
The truth right here... been testing acolyte for a gankplar build atm and it great. Too bad dark flare is a shell of its former glory 😔. I do think that acolyte + recovery/max stat set + Breton = profit..
Think I'ma run a glass cannon NMA+Spinner (or WM) + Balorgh
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EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭UppGRAYxDD wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »
Scathing Mage is currently bugged; it does not proc from Sweeps. If that bug ever gets fixed I will run it on magplar and never take it off; it has been an underrated set for years.
Yeah it's a bug with sweeps though isn't it, because other dd is proccing it. That's what I meant, as soon as sweeps are proccing it, it'll be viable.
I actually used it a little a few months ago to try it but it wasn't amazing, I couldn't check my uptime on console etc though so might be a lot better once sweeps are working.
The real question is why not just run acolyte
The truth right here... been testing acolyte for a gankplar build atm and it great. Too bad dark flare is a shell of its former glory 😔. I do think that acolyte + recovery/max stat set + Breton = profit..
Yea i was doing some tests. Flare is HARDLY hiting harder than javelin vs good builds.0 -
Mrsinister2✭✭✭✭✭Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »UppGRAYxDD wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »
Scathing Mage is currently bugged; it does not proc from Sweeps. If that bug ever gets fixed I will run it on magplar and never take it off; it has been an underrated set for years.
Yeah it's a bug with sweeps though isn't it, because other dd is proccing it. That's what I meant, as soon as sweeps are proccing it, it'll be viable.
I actually used it a little a few months ago to try it but it wasn't amazing, I couldn't check my uptime on console etc though so might be a lot better once sweeps are working.
The real question is why not just run acolyte
The truth right here... been testing acolyte for a gankplar build atm and it great. Too bad dark flare is a shell of its former glory 😔. I do think that acolyte + recovery/max stat set + Breton = profit..
Think I'ma run a glass cannon NMA+Spinner (or WM) + Balorgh
I was running NMA/spinner and bal
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technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ran into another stamplar today. Was kind of embarrassing as he ran into us 3 or 4 times in a row and was killed until the last time, figured we didn't need to Xv1 him any more when 2 of us went after him and 1 dropped what seemed like instantly and then the other lasted longer but saw they were going down as well. Couldnt save him at that point. Realized its actually someone dangerous and began fighting. 3rd out of 4 in my group decided to jump off the only siege we had going about mid fight, got his attention and got melted.
Thinking yall are right in going full offensive. I lasted quite a bit longer but he had me on my back foot the entire time . I saw the combo of POTL, onslaught, executioner with jabs in between and he had it up often. Eventually wore me out as I was using toppling for CC and to set up off balance with ER. Killed my magicka pool and then I pushed to hard on my rolls trying to avoid it. Going to save the mag pool for ER only now I think.
Edited by technohic on November 8, 2019 11:52AM1 -
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✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »UppGRAYxDD wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »
Scathing Mage is currently bugged; it does not proc from Sweeps. If that bug ever gets fixed I will run it on magplar and never take it off; it has been an underrated set for years.
Yeah it's a bug with sweeps though isn't it, because other dd is proccing it. That's what I meant, as soon as sweeps are proccing it, it'll be viable.
I actually used it a little a few months ago to try it but it wasn't amazing, I couldn't check my uptime on console etc though so might be a lot better once sweeps are working.
The real question is why not just run acolyte
The truth right here... been testing acolyte for a gankplar build atm and it great. Too bad dark flare is a shell of its former glory 😔. I do think that acolyte + recovery/max stat set + Breton = profit..
Yea i was doing some tests. Flare is HARDLY hiting harder than javelin vs good builds.
Yea, got dark flare to tool tip at 18.7k... I’m still able to gank, but it’s a lot harder ... and the javelin change is terrible imo. I would rather have the distance"Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."0 -
Aces-High-82✭✭✭✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »Wow tho, definately feel the exploiter loss though
Reallocated 75cp are saying otherwise ;D %dmg increases eg minor berserk are overrated anyways due to being multiplicative. Neverever would eqip Slim raw again since two SD pieces are way more beneficial.
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EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭Aces-High-82 wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Wow tho, definately feel the exploiter loss though
Reallocated 75cp are saying otherwise ;D %dmg increases eg minor berserk are overrated anyways due to being multiplicative. Neverever would eqip Slim raw again since two SD pieces are way more beneficial.
Most of my reallocated cp went to buffing healing since i neglected those prior to this patch instead of neglecting damage stars. %modifiers are still incredibly impactful in pvp. Especially those you get on command, aren't caused by sacrificing other set bonuses, and didn't cause u to go out of your way to get anyway other than maybe 20 cp (now there is literally no point in 75 in thaum, while before with 3 or 4 dots you'd put 56 in on any build using dots).
Most of all, relying on sweeps as your main source of damage vs good players is dumb after they reverted the camera changes. Last patch we had lots of options to support sweeps as part of a burst combo, only needing to cast 1 or 2 times. Major evasion, major expedition, good movement, bunny hopping, etc all dump on sweep spam. But, it's literally our only in class option.UppGRAYxDD wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »UppGRAYxDD wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »
Scathing Mage is currently bugged; it does not proc from Sweeps. If that bug ever gets fixed I will run it on magplar and never take it off; it has been an underrated set for years.
Yeah it's a bug with sweeps though isn't it, because other dd is proccing it. That's what I meant, as soon as sweeps are proccing it, it'll be viable.
I actually used it a little a few months ago to try it but it wasn't amazing, I couldn't check my uptime on console etc though so might be a lot better once sweeps are working.
The real question is why not just run acolyte
The truth right here... been testing acolyte for a gankplar build atm and it great. Too bad dark flare is a shell of its former glory 😔. I do think that acolyte + recovery/max stat set + Breton = profit..
Yea i was doing some tests. Flare is HARDLY hiting harder than javelin vs good builds.
Yea, got dark flare to tool tip at 18.7k... I’m still able to gank, but it’s a lot harder ... and the javelin change is terrible imo. I would rather have the distance
Check your tooltip on javelin, you're probably hiting 40% of that on players vs 25% of darkflare. Im also not talking about maxing tooltips, I'm talking on a typical solo/ small group build. It's a shame what's happened to flare. Fyi, I'm not using either, i was just testing how moronic the changes have been.
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✭✭✭✭✭Dark flare has become just an inconvenient debuff. I'd love to have major defile and give up what damage it has left in exchange for getting rid of cast time3 -
EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭grannas211 wrote: »What trait you guys using on your front bar staff?
Sharpened. Prob changing to infused this patch though.0 -
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✭✭Usually infused on both staffs for me- PC/NA
- Karllotta, AD Magplar, AR 50
- Hatched-In-Glacier, DC Magden, AR 44
- Miraliys, EP Warden, AR 35
- Kartalin, AD Stamblade, AR 35
- Miralys, AD Magsorc, AR 35
- Milthalas, EP Magblade, AR 35
- Kallenna, AD Magcro, AR 34
- Lyranais, EP Magsorc, AR 33
- Lemon Party - Meanest Girls - @ Kartalin - Youtube
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✭✭Dark flare has become just an inconvenient debuff. I'd love to have major defile and give up what damage it has left in exchange for getting rid of cast time
The major defile debuff is hardly worth it either because it only lasts 6 seconds. The defile is only useful when you've got someone outnumbered (because that's the only way they won't dodge or interrupt it) and you hit it when they get to low health.
1v1: unless you can kill them in six seconds, they'll just heal up or kite away until it wears off. The cast time is horrible.0 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What's the deal with Dark Flare?
I tried using it in Cyrodiil today, it barely works. It's more like a 3 second cast time, then sometimes it'd fire two projectiles at once. Is it unusable in Cyrodiil with lag?Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten1