Templars PvP - Detailed Guide, Suggestions, Advice, etc. - Elsweyr

technohic

StarOfElyon wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

I actually dropped RaT this time as a melee-magplar. I'm not vamp either. It's not worth dropping one of my other skills. I think I'm better off just trying to heal through being rooted.

I just put 10 points into stam, wear innate axiom, put well-fitted on my shield, and use my focus tune often to restore stamina. It's enough to make me a little harder to lock down. The trouble comes when I'm focused by multiple magsorcs who are spamming force shock and destructive touch to waste my stamina. And if they drop negate, which is often, then I can't even use my magic every couple of seconds to regen some stamina. But to me, that's just getting more appealing that dropping needed class skills like a purge or total dark.

You're crazy. Gaining immunity and speed to run through can stop a while combo, get you to los, or give you the ability to get out if range. Movement is what separates Good players from great. And i don't mean simply los kiting.

These are my bars:.

#1 eclipse, radiant spears, solar Barrage, vampires bane, puncturing sweeps, crescent sweep

#2 restoring focus, ritual of Retribution, honor the dead, aurora javelin, radiant oppression, rite of passage

Every time I take one of those out, I regret it.

One could argue whether you should go ritual of retribution to begin with but to go with that and no root/snare removal? Masochism

Minno

Datolite wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

I actually dropped RaT this time as a melee-magplar. I'm not vamp either. It's not worth dropping one of my other skills. I think I'm better off just trying to heal through being rooted.

I just put 10 points into stam, wear innate axiom, put well-fitted on my shield, and use my focus tune often to restore stamina. It's enough to make me a little harder to lock down. The trouble comes when I'm focused by multiple magsorcs who are spamming force shock and destructive touch to waste my stamina. And if they drop negate, which is often, then I can't even use my magic every couple of seconds to regen some stamina. But to me, that's just getting more appealing that dropping needed class skills like a purge or total dark.

You're crazy. Gaining immunity and speed to run through can stop a while combo, get you to los, or give you the ability to get out if range. Movement is what separates Good players from great. And i don't mean simply los kiting.

These are my bars:.

#1 eclipse, radiant spears, solar Barrage, vampires bane, puncturing sweeps, crescent sweep

#2 restoring focus, ritual of Retribution, honor the dead, aurora javelin, radiant oppression, rite of passage

Every time I take one of those out, I regret it.

Do you mean blazing spear?
I would drop that for RAT. Also switch to other ritual morph. Also don't need two CCs. Plenty of room in there.

Such is the curse of the Templar kit. Here's 3 options that result in the same effect but once that effect had been achieved, it has less poteency if none at all which results in a huge redundancy. Each tool however, is used at different situations making it a real trap; dammed if you pick one over the other.

Datolite

technohic wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

I actually dropped RaT this time as a melee-magplar. I'm not vamp either. It's not worth dropping one of my other skills. I think I'm better off just trying to heal through being rooted.

I just put 10 points into stam, wear innate axiom, put well-fitted on my shield, and use my focus tune often to restore stamina. It's enough to make me a little harder to lock down. The trouble comes when I'm focused by multiple magsorcs who are spamming force shock and destructive touch to waste my stamina. And if they drop negate, which is often, then I can't even use my magic every couple of seconds to regen some stamina. But to me, that's just getting more appealing that dropping needed class skills like a purge or total dark.

You're crazy. Gaining immunity and speed to run through can stop a while combo, get you to los, or give you the ability to get out if range. Movement is what separates Good players from great. And i don't mean simply los kiting.

These are my bars:.

#1 eclipse, radiant spears, solar Barrage, vampires bane, puncturing sweeps, crescent sweep

#2 restoring focus, ritual of Retribution, honor the dead, aurora javelin, radiant oppression, rite of passage

Every time I take one of those out, I regret it.

One could argue whether you should go ritual of retribution to begin with but to go with that and no root/snare removal? Masochism

You may as well just roll stam for all the dodging you'll be doing against DKs.

StarOfElyon

The minute I drop Ritual of Retribution I'm free kills for nightblades and poison injection spammers.

StarOfElyon

Datolite wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

I actually dropped RaT this time as a melee-magplar. I'm not vamp either. It's not worth dropping one of my other skills. I think I'm better off just trying to heal through being rooted.

I just put 10 points into stam, wear innate axiom, put well-fitted on my shield, and use my focus tune often to restore stamina. It's enough to make me a little harder to lock down. The trouble comes when I'm focused by multiple magsorcs who are spamming force shock and destructive touch to waste my stamina. And if they drop negate, which is often, then I can't even use my magic every couple of seconds to regen some stamina. But to me, that's just getting more appealing that dropping needed class skills like a purge or total dark.

You're crazy. Gaining immunity and speed to run through can stop a while combo, get you to los, or give you the ability to get out if range. Movement is what separates Good players from great. And i don't mean simply los kiting.

These are my bars:.

#1 eclipse, radiant spears, solar Barrage, vampires bane, puncturing sweeps, crescent sweep

#2 restoring focus, ritual of Retribution, honor the dead, aurora javelin, radiant oppression, rite of passage

Every time I take one of those out, I regret it.

One could argue whether you should go ritual of retribution to begin with but to go with that and no root/snare removal? Masochism

You may as well just roll stam for all the dodging you'll be doing against DKs.

As a magplar, I have access to the best of the Templar tools. I can heal through a lot of damage with my restoration staff too. The problem for me is not losing too much power for the sake of decreasing incoming damage. Some adjustments to the spear wall passives and adding some more debuff to the the dawn's wrath skills would be helpful. It wouldn't solve it completely but it would help a lot.

DokThor90

In honour of the tanky meta - stamplar:

5x alessian Armor
5x veiled heritance
2x Trollking
1x master bow
Artaeum takeaway
Nord

Have fun lol

Datolite

StarOfElyon wrote: »

The minute I drop Ritual of Retribution I'm free kills for nightblades and poison injection spammers.

There are so many better choices for popping stealth enemies. I mean you already have blazing spear. Hell I don't even bother anymore, sweeps is enough to catch the melee ones and snipe spammers are usually bad.

I wasn't serious about rolling stam btw. Just saying with all the snares and dots out there RAT is a life saver. At the VERY least i use the 5 effect morph of ritual.

Rhaegar75

hey guys...just a quick summary on the update (I've just returned): Stamplars still lagging behind magplars?

Before I was really struggling to make good use of a stamplar unless I was essentially carried by a strong group. I used to find my poor stamplar lagging behind my other toons (magplar, both DKs)

EtTuBrutus

StarOfElyon wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

I actually dropped RaT this time as a melee-magplar. I'm not vamp either. It's not worth dropping one of my other skills. I think I'm better off just trying to heal through being rooted.

I just put 10 points into stam, wear innate axiom, put well-fitted on my shield, and use my focus tune often to restore stamina. It's enough to make me a little harder to lock down. The trouble comes when I'm focused by multiple magsorcs who are spamming force shock and destructive touch to waste my stamina. And if they drop negate, which is often, then I can't even use my magic every couple of seconds to regen some stamina. But to me, that's just getting more appealing that dropping needed class skills like a purge or total dark.

You're crazy. Gaining immunity and speed to run through can stop a while combo, get you to los, or give you the ability to get out if range. Movement is what separates Good players from great. And i don't mean simply los kiting.

These are my bars:.

#1 eclipse, radiant spears, solar Barrage, vampires bane, puncturing sweeps, crescent sweep

#2 restoring focus, ritual of Retribution, honor the dead, aurora javelin, radiant oppression, rite of passage

Every time I take one of those out, I regret it.

You're not using cleansing ritual, one if the best skills in the game.

Drop eclipse or javelin for race against time.

You use alliance spell pots for sorcery?

That's for my play style though. Mine is not a large group, zerg type, or support. How do you play? Those skills might be great to cover more needs. But that skill line up is not good for solo outnumbered play imo.

StarOfElyon

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

I actually dropped RaT this time as a melee-magplar. I'm not vamp either. It's not worth dropping one of my other skills. I think I'm better off just trying to heal through being rooted.

I just put 10 points into stam, wear innate axiom, put well-fitted on my shield, and use my focus tune often to restore stamina. It's enough to make me a little harder to lock down. The trouble comes when I'm focused by multiple magsorcs who are spamming force shock and destructive touch to waste my stamina. And if they drop negate, which is often, then I can't even use my magic every couple of seconds to regen some stamina. But to me, that's just getting more appealing that dropping needed class skills like a purge or total dark.

You're crazy. Gaining immunity and speed to run through can stop a while combo, get you to los, or give you the ability to get out if range. Movement is what separates Good players from great. And i don't mean simply los kiting.

These are my bars:.

#1 eclipse, radiant spears, solar Barrage, vampires bane, puncturing sweeps, crescent sweep

#2 restoring focus, ritual of Retribution, honor the dead, aurora javelin, radiant oppression, rite of passage

Every time I take one of those out, I regret it.

You're not using cleansing ritual, one if the best skills in the game.

Drop eclipse or javelin for race against time.

You use alliance spell pots for sorcery?

That's for my play style though. Mine is not a large group, zerg type, or support. How do you play? Those skills might be great to cover more needs. But that skill line up is not good for solo outnumbered play imo.

Ritual of Retribution is my cleanse and Nightblade repellent.

I can only 1v2 at the most. I make my own spell power potions. I wear a simple 5L-1M-1H, Julian's-Axiom combination with one lord warden and one pirate skeleton. S&B front. Resto-staff back (when I play healer on the side).

I think it's balanced and was okay for solo queing in BG before. But lately I feel like I'd better off going full offense or full defense.

StarOfElyon

By the way, Javelin is useful for going from defense to offense. I knock back with the javelin, vampires bane or blazing spear, activate solar barrage, puncturing sweeps. It's hard to do without that.

EtTuBrutus

StarOfElyon wrote: »

By the way, Javelin is useful for going from defense to offense. I knock back with the javelin, vampires bane or blazing spear, activate solar barrage, puncturing sweeps. It's hard to do without that.

But then you don't have eclipse to aid with being pressured. You're trying to do too much imo. And besides your monster set up, you're full dmg. Minus glyphs and mundus probably.

Are u against farming gear? Axiom and julianos are good but are definitely outclassed imo.

Stx

Axiom 5pc is excellent for templars but the hybrid crit to me is wasted as opposed to shacklebreaker hybrid regen is useful.

Minno

Stx wrote: »

Axiom 5pc is excellent for templars but the hybrid crit to me is wasted as opposed to shacklebreaker hybrid regen is useful.

Only situation I can think of is if you are running Dawnbreaker and/or swords.

Otherwise I agree.

Mrsinister2

StarOfElyon wrote: »

The minute I drop Ritual of Retribution I'm free kills for nightblades and poison injection spammers.

I thought the same thing just like many templars but you really shouldn't use that morph. Templars are very anti nb even without using ritual you have so many ways to pull them from stealth and wreck there game.

I have 0 issues with either flavor of nb and most seem to avoid templars entirely. The 5 effect cleanse is just so much better for dropping pressure and defiles.

StarOfElyon

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

By the way, Javelin is useful for going from defense to offense. I knock back with the javelin, vampires bane or blazing spear, activate solar barrage, puncturing sweeps. It's hard to do without that.

But then you don't have eclipse to aid with being pressured. You're trying to do too much imo. And besides your monster set up, you're full dmg. Minus glyphs and mundus probably.

Are u against farming gear? Axiom and julianos are good but are definitely outclassed imo.

When I'm in BG and suddenly 5 or 6 people are actually chasing me down trying to kill me, all I can do is run around and handout javelins for everybody. Eclipse doesn't help me in that situation. I lay down a ritual of Retribution to slow people down and take off. I have the passives for medium armor and I have a 6% boost to my movement speed, so that helps a little.

Even if I don't play a dedicated heal bot on a BG, I'll still get targeted like one. So that javelin is underrated in helping me "catch my breath". And the extra spell damage sure helps as I try to heal through the damage.

If I'm still missing anything, it's toppling charge which I regret not having the bar space for. I hate not being able to clinch a kill because my radiant oppression can't execute faster than the opponent can run away.

I've looked at a number of sets but Innate Axiom wins out because of the needed stamina and the boost to class skills that I like to use. (I keep a set of Shacklebreaker in my inventory and I can switch Julianos out on the spot if the game is too stamina heavy) I try to take advantage of the High Elf passive which regens stamina when I use class skills, so I'll use a cheap one like my rune often.

I don't like relying on proc sets that have a "chance" to pay off big. I'm not a gambler. That's why I don't farm them. Without going full heavy or using proc sets, I think I've tweaked the build to being as balanced and efficient as possible. There's definitely not an easy mode with this though. Sorcs are still the bane of my existence. They become damn near invincible when they activate their shields.

StarOfElyon

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

The minute I drop Ritual of Retribution I'm free kills for nightblades and poison injection spammers.

I thought the same thing just like many templars but you really shouldn't use that morph. Templars are very anti nb even without using ritual you have so many ways to pull them from stealth and wreck there game.

I have 0 issues with either flavor of nb and most seem to avoid templars entirely. The 5 effect cleanse is just so much better for dropping pressure and defiles.

Most don't avoid me. They seem more determined to gank me as the game goes on. Some will run away when I survive the incap and start fighting back. Others will keep trying. It seems like most do nothing but hound me the entire time. There could be eight opponents to choose from and they're busy trying to snipe, poison inject, surprise attack or incap me.

I'll consider other ways to protect myself from them but I have limited bar space. RoR gives me a cleanse, Nightblade repellent, a little heal over time, the sacred ground passive, and just a little AOE damage to stack with my other attacks. RoR doesn't excel at one thing but it does do a lot of things, which is useful with limited bars.

EtTuBrutus

StarOfElyon wrote: »

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

The minute I drop Ritual of Retribution I'm free kills for nightblades and poison injection spammers.

I thought the same thing just like many templars but you really shouldn't use that morph. Templars are very anti nb even without using ritual you have so many ways to pull them from stealth and wreck there game.

I have 0 issues with either flavor of nb and most seem to avoid templars entirely. The 5 effect cleanse is just so much better for dropping pressure and defiles.

Most don't avoid me. They seem more determined to gank me as the game goes on. Some will run away when I survive the incap and start fighting back. Others will keep trying. It seems like most do nothing but hound me the entire time. There could be eight opponents to choose from and they're busy trying to snipe, poison inject, surprise attack or incap me.

I'll consider other ways to protect myself from them but I have limited bar space. RoR gives me a cleanse, Nightblade repellent, a little heal over time, the sacred ground passive, and just a little AOE damage to stack with my other attacks. RoR doesn't excel at one thing but it does do a lot of things, which is useful with limited bars.

You need it to excel at one thing. And that's purging. If u think ritual is a deterrent from good night blades you're mistaken. They'll roll and cloak out if it with major expedition.

Stx

Ritual of retribution is such a loaded spell but I cant imagine playing without a 5 effect purge, that's like what makes templars

StarOfElyon

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

The minute I drop Ritual of Retribution I'm free kills for nightblades and poison injection spammers.

I thought the same thing just like many templars but you really shouldn't use that morph. Templars are very anti nb even without using ritual you have so many ways to pull them from stealth and wreck there game.

I have 0 issues with either flavor of nb and most seem to avoid templars entirely. The 5 effect cleanse is just so much better for dropping pressure and defiles.

Most don't avoid me. They seem more determined to gank me as the game goes on. Some will run away when I survive the incap and start fighting back. Others will keep trying. It seems like most do nothing but hound me the entire time. There could be eight opponents to choose from and they're busy trying to snipe, poison inject, surprise attack or incap me.

I'll consider other ways to protect myself from them but I have limited bar space. RoR gives me a cleanse, Nightblade repellent, a little heal over time, the sacred ground passive, and just a little AOE damage to stack with my other attacks. RoR doesn't excel at one thing but it does do a lot of things, which is useful with limited bars.

You need it to excel at one thing. And that's purging. If u think ritual is a deterrent from good night blades you're mistaken. They'll roll and cloak out if it with major expedition.

It's effective enough for the limited bar space I have. My other option would be to slot a purge and something to deal with nightblades, requiring two slots on my bars instead of just one.

I'll consider changing the morph it if there's any good reason to drop one of the other skills I have slotted to decloak NBs.

Mrsinister2

StarOfElyon wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

The minute I drop Ritual of Retribution I'm free kills for nightblades and poison injection spammers.

I thought the same thing just like many templars but you really shouldn't use that morph. Templars are very anti nb even without using ritual you have so many ways to pull them from stealth and wreck there game.

I have 0 issues with either flavor of nb and most seem to avoid templars entirely. The 5 effect cleanse is just so much better for dropping pressure and defiles.

Most don't avoid me. They seem more determined to gank me as the game goes on. Some will run away when I survive the incap and start fighting back. Others will keep trying. It seems like most do nothing but hound me the entire time. There could be eight opponents to choose from and they're busy trying to snipe, poison inject, surprise attack or incap me.

I'll consider other ways to protect myself from them but I have limited bar space. RoR gives me a cleanse, Nightblade repellent, a little heal over time, the sacred ground passive, and just a little AOE damage to stack with my other attacks. RoR doesn't excel at one thing but it does do a lot of things, which is useful with limited bars.

You need it to excel at one thing. And that's purging. If u think ritual is a deterrent from good night blades you're mistaken. They'll roll and cloak out if it with major expedition.

It's effective enough for the limited bar space I have. My other option would be to slot a purge and something to deal with nightblades, requiring two slots on my bars instead of just one.

I'll consider changing the morph it if there's any good reason to drop one of the other skills I have slotted to decloak NBs.

Solar barrage and sweeps is all you need to counter nbs. I always keep a detect pot handy since popping one is a death sentence for 90% of nbs.

A good nb won't care for a second about your ritual all your doing is scaring one's away who crutch very hard on cloak.

With Templar don't ever get to set on what your feel like you absolutely need on your bars or certian morphs of skills you'd be surprised how well some things work that seem like they won't.

Minno

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

The minute I drop Ritual of Retribution I'm free kills for nightblades and poison injection spammers.

I thought the same thing just like many templars but you really shouldn't use that morph. Templars are very anti nb even without using ritual you have so many ways to pull them from stealth and wreck there game.

I have 0 issues with either flavor of nb and most seem to avoid templars entirely. The 5 effect cleanse is just so much better for dropping pressure and defiles.

Most don't avoid me. They seem more determined to gank me as the game goes on. Some will run away when I survive the incap and start fighting back. Others will keep trying. It seems like most do nothing but hound me the entire time. There could be eight opponents to choose from and they're busy trying to snipe, poison inject, surprise attack or incap me.

I'll consider other ways to protect myself from them but I have limited bar space. RoR gives me a cleanse, Nightblade repellent, a little heal over time, the sacred ground passive, and just a little AOE damage to stack with my other attacks. RoR doesn't excel at one thing but it does do a lot of things, which is useful with limited bars.

You need it to excel at one thing. And that's purging. If u think ritual is a deterrent from good night blades you're mistaken. They'll roll and cloak out if it with major expedition.

It's effective enough for the limited bar space I have. My other option would be to slot a purge and something to deal with nightblades, requiring two slots on my bars instead of just one.

I'll consider changing the morph it if there's any good reason to drop one of the other skills I have slotted to decloak NBs.

Solar barrage and sweeps is all you need to counter nbs. I always keep a detect pot handy since popping one is a death sentence for 90% of nbs.

A good nb won't care for a second about your ritual all your doing is scaring one's away who crutch very hard on cloak.

With Templar don't ever get to set on what your feel like you absolutely need on your bars or certian morphs of skills you'd be surprised how well some things work that seem like they won't.

agreed. Good nightblades don't crutch cloak, they crutch fear/LOS. They will wait you out behind a tree till you get closer and drain your mag trying to cast all those purges trying to "decloak" them.

EtTuBrutus

StarOfElyon wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

The minute I drop Ritual of Retribution I'm free kills for nightblades and poison injection spammers.

I thought the same thing just like many templars but you really shouldn't use that morph. Templars are very anti nb even without using ritual you have so many ways to pull them from stealth and wreck there game.

I have 0 issues with either flavor of nb and most seem to avoid templars entirely. The 5 effect cleanse is just so much better for dropping pressure and defiles.

Most don't avoid me. They seem more determined to gank me as the game goes on. Some will run away when I survive the incap and start fighting back. Others will keep trying. It seems like most do nothing but hound me the entire time. There could be eight opponents to choose from and they're busy trying to snipe, poison inject, surprise attack or incap me.

I'll consider other ways to protect myself from them but I have limited bar space. RoR gives me a cleanse, Nightblade repellent, a little heal over time, the sacred ground passive, and just a little AOE damage to stack with my other attacks. RoR doesn't excel at one thing but it does do a lot of things, which is useful with limited bars.

You need it to excel at one thing. And that's purging. If u think ritual is a deterrent from good night blades you're mistaken. They'll roll and cloak out if it with major expedition.

It's effective enough for the limited bar space I have. My other option would be to slot a purge and something to deal with nightblades, requiring two slots on my bars instead of just one.

I'll consider changing the morph it if there's any good reason to drop one of the other skills I have slotted to decloak NBs.

U already have blazing and sweeps to counter cloak. I'll show u some of my gameplay of u want. It'll show several different bar set ups.

Rhaegar75

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

hey guys...just a quick summary on the update (I've just returned): Stamplars still lagging behind magplars?

Before I was really struggling to make good use of a stamplar unless I was essentially carried by a strong group. I used to find my poor stamplar lagging behind my other toons (magplar, both DKs)

Guys...what do you think about the above?

EtTuBrutus

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

hey guys...just a quick summary on the update (I've just returned): Stamplars still lagging behind magplars?

Before I was really struggling to make good use of a stamplar unless I was essentially carried by a strong group. I used to find my poor stamplar lagging behind my other toons (magplar, both DKs)

Guys...what do you think about the above?

Every class is fairly well off. Just certain classes have more options. Stamplar are more limited to playstyles imo. But they hit like a truck.

technohic

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

hey guys...just a quick summary on the update (I've just returned): Stamplars still lagging behind magplars?

Before I was really struggling to make good use of a stamplar unless I was essentially carried by a strong group. I used to find my poor stamplar lagging behind my other toons (magplar, both DKs)

Guys...what do you think about the above?

I had went back stamplar this week. Make sure you get your ER down if you are going to be fighting in the area. Its heal is not huge but worthwhile now to preemptively put it down rather than conserve and wait for debuffs that need cleansed.

miteba

syntaxx wrote: »

Uh didn’t see much value on Sherman’s site for Templar’s pvp build help was hoping one of y’all experts would throw me a bone for support/heals Templar pvp build BG.

@syntax I have an argonian support templar and i use transmutation, spell power cure and Earthgore (even with last "nerf") in any PvP content.

You can change the Monster set to whatever you like, more defensive like Mighty Chudan, Troll King; more sustain like Engine Guardian; or a more offensive one to gain some dps, like Grothdarr, Domihaus, Infernal Guardian (if you use shield) etc etc

I use 5x light armor (impenetrable,) and 2 heavy (monster set) since i dont have undaunted mettle yet

3 protective jewelry it's a must have to balance light armor resistances (or at least 2 protective)
Glyphs of magicka cost reduction since both sets have magicka regen (or 2 mcr and 1 mag regen... I have 2 substitute rings with spell dmg glyph too)

I can be very heal&buff supportive and tanky (skills wise) at the same type, and still help with damage... And lets not forget, execute a lot with radiant destruction

Hope i helped 🤔

StarOfElyon

Minno wrote: »

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

The minute I drop Ritual of Retribution I'm free kills for nightblades and poison injection spammers.

I thought the same thing just like many templars but you really shouldn't use that morph. Templars are very anti nb even without using ritual you have so many ways to pull them from stealth and wreck there game.

I have 0 issues with either flavor of nb and most seem to avoid templars entirely. The 5 effect cleanse is just so much better for dropping pressure and defiles.

Most don't avoid me. They seem more determined to gank me as the game goes on. Some will run away when I survive the incap and start fighting back. Others will keep trying. It seems like most do nothing but hound me the entire time. There could be eight opponents to choose from and they're busy trying to snipe, poison inject, surprise attack or incap me.

I'll consider other ways to protect myself from them but I have limited bar space. RoR gives me a cleanse, Nightblade repellent, a little heal over time, the sacred ground passive, and just a little AOE damage to stack with my other attacks. RoR doesn't excel at one thing but it does do a lot of things, which is useful with limited bars.

You need it to excel at one thing. And that's purging. If u think ritual is a deterrent from good night blades you're mistaken. They'll roll and cloak out if it with major expedition.

It's effective enough for the limited bar space I have. My other option would be to slot a purge and something to deal with nightblades, requiring two slots on my bars instead of just one.

I'll consider changing the morph it if there's any good reason to drop one of the other skills I have slotted to decloak NBs.

Solar barrage and sweeps is all you need to counter nbs. I always keep a detect pot handy since popping one is a death sentence for 90% of nbs.

A good nb won't care for a second about your ritual all your doing is scaring one's away who crutch very hard on cloak.

With Templar don't ever get to set on what your feel like you absolutely need on your bars or certian morphs of skills you'd be surprised how well some things work that seem like they won't.

agreed. Good nightblades don't crutch cloak, they crutch fear/LOS. They will wait you out behind a tree till you get closer and drain your mag trying to cast all those purges trying to "decloak" them.

I don't have to cast it a lot. I cast it where I am.

It's just my little barrier, that's all.

StarOfElyon

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The minute I drop Ritual of Retribution I'm free kills for nightblades and poison injection spammers.

I thought the same thing just like many templars but you really shouldn't use that morph. Templars are very anti nb even without using ritual you have so many ways to pull them from stealth and wreck there game.

I have 0 issues with either flavor of nb and most seem to avoid templars entirely. The 5 effect cleanse is just so much better for dropping pressure and defiles.

Most don't avoid me. They seem more determined to gank me as the game goes on. Some will run away when I survive the incap and start fighting back. Others will keep trying. It seems like most do nothing but hound me the entire time. There could be eight opponents to choose from and they're busy trying to snipe, poison inject, surprise attack or incap me.

I'll consider other ways to protect myself from them but I have limited bar space. RoR gives me a cleanse, Nightblade repellent, a little heal over time, the sacred ground passive, and just a little AOE damage to stack with my other attacks. RoR doesn't excel at one thing but it does do a lot of things, which is useful with limited bars.

You need it to excel at one thing. And that's purging. If u think ritual is a deterrent from good night blades you're mistaken. They'll roll and cloak out if it with major expedition.

It's effective enough for the limited bar space I have. My other option would be to slot a purge and something to deal with nightblades, requiring two slots on my bars instead of just one.

I'll consider changing the morph it if there's any good reason to drop one of the other skills I have slotted to decloak NBs.

Solar barrage and sweeps is all you need to counter nbs. I always keep a detect pot handy since popping one is a death sentence for 90% of nbs.

A good nb won't care for a second about your ritual all your doing is scaring one's away who crutch very hard on cloak.

With Templar don't ever get to set on what your feel like you absolutely need on your bars or certian morphs of skills you'd be surprised how well some things work that seem like they won't.

agreed. Good nightblades don't crutch cloak, they crutch fear/LOS. They will wait you out behind a tree till you get closer and drain your mag trying to cast all those purges trying to "decloak" them.

Two casts at the most then I move on to continue with other people. Most likely they only want to strike when I'm busy with someone else anyway.

The good thing about having extra stamina is being able to break free from the fears. Usually, I can do that and survive their attacks. The werewolves are a different story though.

StarOfElyon

I'll test things with the other morph and see if it feels any better game play.