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Templars PvP - Detailed Guide, Suggestions, Advice, etc. - Elsweyr
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Deadly Strike
LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160
(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Increase the damage your Physical, Bleed, Poison, and Disease damage over time abilities do by 14%.
Though I'm looking at it more for a storc. But jabs gets a big ol' buff and so does bleeds0 -
Methariorn✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Hi templars.
A friend of mine has started eso. He is 400cp looking to get into small scale PvP CP.
We are looking for a DW/SnB magplar tanky build without any success.
If you could give us a detailed build we would appreciate your work
What's his purpose? Solo, group, zerg, healer, ZC hero?
Small scale Cyrodill tanky brawler Magplar
For small scale pvp shacklebreaker + amberplasm is still one of the best option imho: good sustain, good spellpower and you can configure your monster sets for the need (bloodspawn/pirate for a more defense, skoria/grothdarr for more offensive punch). You can olso easy switch from heavy armour to light armour setup. If you wonna do more buff/support role in a small scale party you can replace amber with robe of trasmutation (you can backbar on your healing bar and use willpower/master staff on your offensive bar); your friends will be happy of the crit resistance bonus.Methariorn sorc EU server AD
Acciughina NB EU server AD
Aiacos Templar EU server AD
Sevoltan DK EU server AD0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Deadly Strike
LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160
(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Increase the damage your Physical, Bleed, Poison, and Disease damage over time abilities do by 14%.
Though I'm looking at it more for a storc. But jabs gets a big ol' buff and so does bleeds
Automaton I think does the same thing except includes direct dmg components. Might have better 2,3,4 bonusesMinno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Deadly Strike
LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160
(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Increase the damage your Physical, Bleed, Poison, and Disease damage over time abilities do by 14%.
Though I'm looking at it more for a storc. But jabs gets a big ol' buff and so does bleeds
Automaton I think does the same thing except includes direct dmg components. Might have better 2,3,4 bonuses
@Minno I'm pretty sure 14% is gonna buff higher than 400 wpn dmg
This is purely off of my head, but the last time I checked numbers you can expect somewhere near 10% from 400 wpn dmg increase.
14% is huge I think. I don't have any deadly because it was such trash before.... But I would like to test when I have a chance to.
I'm sure someone could do that whole internet calculation thingy, but I'm unfamiliar with the sites0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Deadly Strike
LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160
(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Increase the damage your Physical, Bleed, Poison, and Disease damage over time abilities do by 14%.
Though I'm looking at it more for a storc. But jabs gets a big ol' buff and so does bleeds
Automaton I think does the same thing except includes direct dmg components. Might have better 2,3,4 bonuses
@Minno I'm pretty sure 14% is gonna buff higher than 400 wpn dmg
This is purely off of my head, but the last time I checked numbers you can expect somewhere near 10% from 400 wpn dmg increase.
14% is huge I think. I don't have any deadly because it was such trash before.... But I would like to test when I have a chance to.
I'm sure someone could do that whole internet calculation thingy, but I'm unfamiliar with the sites
What in saying is that it's buffing only dot area of damage. So if you are using rending slahes, it's not buffing the initial hit DMG.
And auto would buff burning light btw. So it's more consistent. If you are heavy attack into rending and potl Dawnbreaker, auto is sexier.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Deadly Strike
LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160
(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Increase the damage your Physical, Bleed, Poison, and Disease damage over time abilities do by 14%.
Though I'm looking at it more for a storc. But jabs gets a big ol' buff and so does bleeds
Automaton I think does the same thing except includes direct dmg components. Might have better 2,3,4 bonuses
@Minno I'm pretty sure 14% is gonna buff higher than 400 wpn dmg
This is purely off of my head, but the last time I checked numbers you can expect somewhere near 10% from 400 wpn dmg increase.
14% is huge I think. I don't have any deadly because it was such trash before.... But I would like to test when I have a chance to.
I'm sure someone could do that whole internet calculation thingy, but I'm unfamiliar with the sites
What in saying is that it's buffing only dot area of damage. So if you are using rending slahes, it's not buffing the initial hit DMG.
And auto would buff burning light btw. So it's more consistent. If you are heavy attack into rending and potl Dawnbreaker, auto is sexier.
TBH I was thinking master's bleed + deadly
14% on top of masters? Followed by a buffed jabs because why the hell not?
Imo it's about da bleeds more than the rest.
The only thing is that I'm not entirely sure what's happening in elsweyr to bleeds.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, Im not sure whats happening to bleeds either. I moved away from that and have been running spriggans and Cyrodiils ward and mace. Makes up for templars lack of major fracture or defile which I find very valuable these days. Always found it odd that the pressure class lacks the tools like defile while the bigger burst class, which could melt someone before they have a chance to heal; had it and fracture. Im referring to NB pre-incoming nerf, but now I also have my warden leveled, just need to build out the skills to see if I can land that combo.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This thread is a good indication of which of the two Templar specs is performing better right now.0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This thread is a good indication of which of the two Templar specs is performing better right now.
Both are in "eh" spots though. Magplar just has a few extra tricks up it's sleeves. Stamplar needs alot of love from the devs and both specs really didn't get proactive defense pain points solved (at least those magplars that are trying not to run healbot specs lol).Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Rhaegar75✭✭✭✭✭Hey guys...massive dilemma here. I’m normally running a heavy build but I’ve realised it’s not working when I’m not bugged by the CPs.
My stats plummet in battlegrounds hence I’m thinking about moving to 5 Light Armor pieces.
What combination would you suggest? I’m thinking about fortified brass to add tank Ines...any thoughts?0 -
Destyran✭✭✭✭✭Hey guys...massive dilemma here. I’m normally running a heavy build but I’ve realised it’s not working when I’m not bugged by the CPs.
My stats plummet in battlegrounds hence I’m thinking about moving to 5 Light Armor pieces.
What combination would you suggest? I’m thinking about fortified brass to add tank Ines...any thoughts?
Try Valkyn innate axiom and trans for the group with will power inferno frontbar.1 -
EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭Hey guys...massive dilemma here. I’m normally running a heavy build but I’ve realised it’s not working when I’m not bugged by the CPs.
My stats plummet in battlegrounds hence I’m thinking about moving to 5 Light Armor pieces.
What combination would you suggest? I’m thinking about fortified brass to add tank Ines...any thoughts?
Ask yourself answers more important?
2610 magicka- arcane jewelry
5532 physical and spell resistance - protective
Ex. Running fortified brass with arcane jewelry
8145 physical and spell resistance
2610 magicka
1206 hp
Ex. Bright throats with protective jewelry
5532 physical and spell resistance
4192 magicka
279 recovery
Personally, i value 1582 magicka and 279 recovery (both can be boosted by %modifiers) more than i value 2613(no % modifier) resistance and 1206 hp.
Ex. Back barred transmutation with willpower front bar and protective jewelry
5532 physical and spell resistance
258 recovery
833 crit (only on back bar)
1259 crit resistance (huge impact in no cp)
1644 magicka (depending on the set up the magicka can be on front bar only or can be a permanent increase like running spinners in front bar with transmutation on the back and 2 willpower rings).
To compare, (leaving crit out since it's back barred) do you value 258 recovery, 1259 critical resistance or 2613 physical and spell resistance, 1206 hp, 966 magicka more?
You also need to think about the paired set. If you feel 5532 resistances is enough, no point in using brass imo as you need to cover sustain and damage by going with that set. If you don't think it's enough, the are monster sets than can provide the boost u need so you're not sacrificing anything.
Tldr: use a defensive monster set and adjust protective jewelry to fit needs.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Not to distract but @Minno I think I like the idea of both on a more glass cannon type build, whatcha think? (I don't have masters fyi)0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Not to distract but @Minno I think I like the idea of both on a more glass cannon type build, whatcha think? (I don't have masters fyi)
When in doubt go full DMG lol. I say go for it.
Just recently went that way too for magplar:
-5pc heavy
- 40% crit
- 1.85 modifier
- 4.6 SD
- 35k mag
- 22000/26000 resists with 3300 cr
- 5000 tooltip sweeps and cresent hits for 21000 when it hits lol.
Go big or go home lolMinno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Sungod✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Not to distract but @Minno I think I like the idea of both on a more glass cannon type build, whatcha think? (I don't have masters fyi)
When in doubt go full DMG lol. I say go for it.
Just recently went that way too for magplar:
-5pc heavy
- 40% crit
- 1.85 modifier
- 4.6 SD
- 35k mag
- 22000/26000 resists with 3300 cr
- 5000 tooltip sweeps and cresent hits for 21000 when it hits lol.
Go big or go home lol
soooo.... whats your build?
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✭✭I've been reluctant to change my build till I know for certain that it just won't work in ESO. I'm still having problems with feeling too squishy. I wear a heavy chestplate, medium on legs, and the rest in light armor. I use Shackle Breaker and Innate Axiom (so my spell damage might appear to be low). I have to invest in stamina because I get crowd controlled so much and I need to break free. Since I usually have to queue as a healer, I play with a restoration-staff on my back bar. I just need to know if I'm really that squishy because I sure feel like I get melted quickly when opponents drop AOE on me. How do my stats look (buffed by Witchmothers)? Are my stats too low or what? https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuVzENSVpeI-k22o_l0Oe_v27wpKEdited by StarOfElyon on April 25, 2019 5:09AM0 -
MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This thread is a good indication of which of the two Templar specs is performing better right now.
Both garbage, magplar is just good 1v1, has burst heals on demand, and can cleanse more often.
Stamplar is straight up trash. Opportunist class that can't do anything on their own. Just jump in, steal kills, and leech off other people's work. They're nothing without LOS because they don't have any proper self healing or dmg mitigation.
Edited by MaxJrFTW on April 25, 2019 6:50AM"I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
―Ulrich Leland, 3E 4330 -
Rhaegar75✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Not to distract but @Minno I think I like the idea of both on a more glass cannon type build, whatcha think? (I don't have masters fyi)
When in doubt go full DMG lol. I say go for it.
Just recently went that way too for magplar:
-5pc heavy
- 40% crit
- 1.85 modifier
- 4.6 SD
- 35k mag
- 22000/26000 resists with 3300 cr
- 5000 tooltip sweeps and cresent hits for 21000 when it hits lol.
Go big or go home lol
soooo.... whats your build?
Indeed...what’s your build? The stats sound amazing!EtTuBrutus wrote: »Hey guys...massive dilemma here. I’m normally running a heavy build but I’ve realised it’s not working when I’m not bugged by the CPs.
My stats plummet in battlegrounds hence I’m thinking about moving to 5 Light Armor pieces.
What combination would you suggest? I’m thinking about fortified brass to add tank Ines...any thoughts?
Ask yourself answers more important?
2610 magicka- arcane jewelry
5532 physical and spell resistance - protective
Ex. Running fortified brass with arcane jewelry
8145 physical and spell resistance
2610 magicka
1206 hp
Ex. Bright throats with protective jewelry
5532 physical and spell resistance
4192 magicka
279 recovery
Personally, i value 1582 magicka and 279 recovery (both can be boosted by %modifiers) more than i value 2613(no % modifier) resistance and 1206 hp.
Ex. Back barred transmutation with willpower front bar and protective jewelry
5532 physical and spell resistance
258 recovery
833 crit (only on back bar)
1259 crit resistance (huge impact in no cp)
1644 magicka (depending on the set up the magicka can be on front bar only or can be a permanent increase like running spinners in front bar with transmutation on the back and 2 willpower rings).
To compare, (leaving crit out since it's back barred) do you value 258 recovery, 1259 critical resistance or 2613 physical and spell resistance, 1206 hp, 966 magicka more?
You also need to think about the paired set. If you feel 5532 resistances is enough, no point in using brass imo as you need to cover sustain and damage by going with that set. If you don't think it's enough, the are monster sets than can provide the boost u need so you're not sacrificing anything.
Tldr: use a defensive monster set and adjust protective jewelry to fit needs.
Thanks mate: you wrote something very insightful. Stupidly I had not realised that I could build defenses through jewels. I really like the sound of bright throat: the plus is that I’ve already farmed it ✊ .
What set would you pair with Bright Throat? Thanks
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EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Not to distract but @Minno I think I like the idea of both on a more glass cannon type build, whatcha think? (I don't have masters fyi)
When in doubt go full DMG lol. I say go for it.
Just recently went that way too for magplar:
-5pc heavy
- 40% crit
- 1.85 modifier
- 4.6 SD
- 35k mag
- 22000/26000 resists with 3300 cr
- 5000 tooltip sweeps and cresent hits for 21000 when it hits lol.
Go big or go home lol
soooo.... whats your build?
Indeed...what’s your build? The stats sound amazing!EtTuBrutus wrote: »Hey guys...massive dilemma here. I’m normally running a heavy build but I’ve realised it’s not working when I’m not bugged by the CPs.
My stats plummet in battlegrounds hence I’m thinking about moving to 5 Light Armor pieces.
What combination would you suggest? I’m thinking about fortified brass to add tank Ines...any thoughts?
Ask yourself answers more important?
2610 magicka- arcane jewelry
5532 physical and spell resistance - protective
Ex. Running fortified brass with arcane jewelry
8145 physical and spell resistance
2610 magicka
1206 hp
Ex. Bright throats with protective jewelry
5532 physical and spell resistance
4192 magicka
279 recovery
Personally, i value 1582 magicka and 279 recovery (both can be boosted by %modifiers) more than i value 2613(no % modifier) resistance and 1206 hp.
Ex. Back barred transmutation with willpower front bar and protective jewelry
5532 physical and spell resistance
258 recovery
833 crit (only on back bar)
1259 crit resistance (huge impact in no cp)
1644 magicka (depending on the set up the magicka can be on front bar only or can be a permanent increase like running spinners in front bar with transmutation on the back and 2 willpower rings).
To compare, (leaving crit out since it's back barred) do you value 258 recovery, 1259 critical resistance or 2613 physical and spell resistance, 1206 hp, 966 magicka more?
You also need to think about the paired set. If you feel 5532 resistances is enough, no point in using brass imo as you need to cover sustain and damage by going with that set. If you don't think it's enough, the are monster sets than can provide the boost u need so you're not sacrificing anything.
Tldr: use a defensive monster set and adjust protective jewelry to fit needs.
Thanks mate: you wrote something very insightful. Stupidly I had not realised that I could build defenses through jewels. I really like the sound of bright throat: the plus is that I’ve already farmed it ✊ .
What set would you pair with Bright Throat? Thanks
Well you're looking for damage right? Spinners, julianos, axiom, overwhelming, spc, soulshine, war maiden, amberplasm. Tons of options. I'm currently in spinners.0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Not to distract but @Minno I think I like the idea of both on a more glass cannon type build, whatcha think? (I don't have masters fyi)
When in doubt go full DMG lol. I say go for it.
Just recently went that way too for magplar:
-5pc heavy
- 40% crit
- 1.85 modifier
- 4.6 SD
- 35k mag
- 22000/26000 resists with 3300 cr
- 5000 tooltip sweeps and cresent hits for 21000 when it hits lol.
Go big or go home lol
soooo.... whats your build?
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- Filthy Casual0 -
Sungod✭✭✭
soooo.... whats your build?[/quote]
not sharing publicly[/quote]
I suppose a PM is out of the deal :P
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Jabbs_Giggity✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Not to distract but @Minno I think I like the idea of both on a more glass cannon type build, whatcha think? (I don't have masters fyi)
When in doubt go full DMG lol. I say go for it.
Just recently went that way too for magplar:
-5pc heavy
- 40% crit
- 1.85 modifier
- 4.6 SD
- 35k mag
- 22000/26000 resists with 3300 cr
- 5000 tooltip sweeps and cresent hits for 21000 when it hits lol.
Go big or go home lol
soooo.... whats your build?
Gonna go with Rattlecage/War Maiden/Slimecraw or Balorgh's0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
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for now[/quote]
this is cruelty!!! let's make a deal...gives 3 options and we chose which one we think it's right
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Oblivion's Foe might be one of the sets Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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this is cruelty!!! let's make a deal...gives 3 options and we chose which one we think it's right
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Oblivion's Foe might be one of the sets[/quote]
Lies. Why would you slot Crescent over SA with Oblivion's Foe. That set is garbage unless you are running pure Glass Oblivion Foe/Soulshine = DF,DF,DF,DF>SAEdited by Jabbs_Giggity on April 25, 2019 6:14PM0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lies. Why would you slot Crescent over SA with Oblivion's Foe. That set is garbage unless you are running pure Glass Oblivion Foe/Soulshine = DF,DF,DF,DF>SA
Of course
Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual0 -
Jabbs_Giggity✭✭✭✭✭Lies. Why would you slot Crescent over SA with Oblivion's Foe. That set is garbage unless you are running pure Glass Oblivion Foe/Soulshine = DF,DF,DF,DF>SA
Of course
Wait, I just realized that OF is for Soul Trap ability only lol not all Soul Magic abilities. They should change that...OMG Tooltip on SA would be over 100k 0
