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Bleed is killing PVP

  • BlackMadara
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    I ran into some guys spamming rending on my sDK in heavy. 2 sets of rending plus a bleed proc. Assuming one had master/deadly strike. I died. Was mad at first then decided that those 2 countered my heavy armored, high resist, high ult gen build that relied on blocking and HoTs. Came to peace with that and avoided trying to fight them 1v2. Worked wonders.

    I think the lowered chance of twin blade and blunt were good. Would like to see master's bleed adjusted a bit, but makes sense that they are strong. If I was on my mDK, I would've been fine. Its about how you roll the dice sometimes
  • Dojohoda
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    The "Axes of Evil" cheese is still strong.
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  • Savos_Saren
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    Just give magic users a "bleed" that ignores all spell resistances. That way, everyone's even.
    Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.

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  • ShadowProc
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    Does anyone know what’s better, 2 master axes or 1 master axe/dagger?
  • Ragnarock41
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    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Does anyone know what’s better, 2 master axes or 1 master axe/dagger?

    Axe-dagger. The dagger crit is very sweet but the second axe doesn't add too much to the table. Only more proc chance, which you won't be needing.
  • ShadowProc
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    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Does anyone know what’s better, 2 master axes or 1 master axe/dagger?

    Axe-dagger. The dagger crit is very sweet but the second axe doesn't add too much to the table. Only more proc chance, which you won't be needing.

    That’s what I thought. Thank you.

  • Qbiken
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    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Does anyone know what’s better, 2 master axes or 1 master axe/dagger?

    Axe-dagger. The dagger crit is very sweet but the second axe doesn't add too much to the table. Only more proc chance, which you won't be needing.

    The 2nd axe can apply a separate bleed, which can be very strong.
  • ShadowProc
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Does anyone know what’s better, 2 master axes or 1 master axe/dagger?

    Axe-dagger. The dagger crit is very sweet but the second axe doesn't add too much to the table. Only more proc chance, which you won't be needing.

    The 2nd axe can apply a separate bleed, which can be very strong.

    Seriously? Dammit I don’t want to go into DSA again. Lol
  • IzzyStardust
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    Patro wrote: »
    The bleed builds have now reached absurd levels. It's also unacceptable to take 2.5k every tick of bleed damage in heavy armor while blocking.
    My main character is a magicka dk and there's an excessive disproportion between bleed and fire dots.
    I'm not the only one to complain about it, I hope ZOS decides to do something about it!
    lol killing PVPers anyway (and yeah; don’t permablock/spam shields, that’ll punch your ticket fo sho.)
  • BlackMadara
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Does anyone know what’s better, 2 master axes or 1 master axe/dagger?

    Axe-dagger. The dagger crit is very sweet but the second axe doesn't add too much to the table. Only more proc chance, which you won't be needing.

    The 2nd axe can apply a separate bleed, which can be very strong.

    2nd ace cannot apply a separate bleed. The only way to have 2 separate axe bleed procs is by having dual wield and 2h.
  • Rex-Umbra
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    Can't do bgs atm due to absurd bleeds large scale is fine with dedicated templar purges
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  • ShadowProc
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Does anyone know what’s better, 2 master axes or 1 master axe/dagger?

    Axe-dagger. The dagger crit is very sweet but the second axe doesn't add too much to the table. Only more proc chance, which you won't be needing.

    The 2nd axe can apply a separate bleed, which can be very strong.

    You do some testing to provide it?
  • Minalan
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    My permablock tank died to a bleed dot! I can't be bothered to change my build or do anything other than drool on my block key.

    Bleeds need a nerf, I should never ever die!
    Edited by Minalan on March 16, 2019 9:05PM
  • Kaysha
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    Just don´t play NO CP or BGs till master DW is adjusted. Let them play with themselves.
  • Exodium
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Does anyone know what’s better, 2 master axes or 1 master axe/dagger?

    Axe-dagger. The dagger crit is very sweet but the second axe doesn't add too much to the table. Only more proc chance, which you won't be needing.

    The 2nd axe can apply a separate bleed, which can be very strong.

    Wrong
  • TheBonesXXX
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    @TheBonesXXX Agree completely Im wondering if its on purpose to play other classes. Obviously being nerfed so much you are forced to play other styles.

    And ive been nerfed 10x slowly and consistantly over 2 years its pretty crazy.

    It's not handling the base game which where the balance lies. The reason why imbalance exists in this game is just for 6 years they have balanced it around monsters instead of character to character.
  • Minalan
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    Bleeds are in a fine place, tanks need to stop crying. You have a counter, and I'm glad to see you all dying for a change.

    The game needs to be harder than holding block 24/7.

    Edited by Minalan on March 17, 2019 5:03PM
  • Kaysha
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Bleeds are in a fine place, tanks need to stop crying. You have a counter, and I'm glad to see you all dying for a change.

    The game needs to be harder than holding block 24/7.

    Then tell me what the counter to bleed builds is in NO CP plz.
  • Kaysha
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Bleeds are in a fine place, tanks need to stop crying. You have a counter, and I'm glad to see you all dying for a change.

    The game needs to be harder than holding block 24/7.

    Where is the 2 piece set that gives me 1500 HPS for pressing one button. And I don´t play tanks btw.
  • Minalan
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    Kaysha wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Bleeds are in a fine place, tanks need to stop crying. You have a counter, and I'm glad to see you all dying for a change.

    The game needs to be harder than holding block 24/7.

    Where is the 2 piece set that gives me 1500 HPS for pressing one button. And I don´t play tanks btw.

    I don't know, troll king plus lingering health pots?

    What do I win? Is there a prize?
    Edited by Minalan on March 17, 2019 5:45PM
  • Kaysha
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    No, wrong answer. I didn´t ask for a monster set.

    You just reduced my damage by 30% and my defence by 10%. Try again.
  • Chrlynsch
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    Kaysha wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Bleeds are in a fine place, tanks need to stop crying. You have a counter, and I'm glad to see you all dying for a change.

    The game needs to be harder than holding block 24/7.

    Where is the 2 piece set that gives me 1500 HPS for pressing one button. And I don´t play tanks btw.

    What does 1500 hps have to do with anything?
    Caius
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  • Kaysha
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    Chrlynsch wrote: »
    Kaysha wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Bleeds are in a fine place, tanks need to stop crying. You have a counter, and I'm glad to see you all dying for a change.

    The game needs to be harder than holding block 24/7.

    Where is the 2 piece set that gives me 1500 HPS for pressing one button. And I don´t play tanks btw.

    What does 1500 hps have to do with anything?

    Master DW adds 1500 DPS without any sacrifice. And you just have to press one button. Where is a comparable counter?
  • Jeremy
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    Kaysha wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Bleeds are in a fine place, tanks need to stop crying. You have a counter, and I'm glad to see you all dying for a change.

    The game needs to be harder than holding block 24/7.

    Then tell me what the counter to bleed builds is in NO CP plz.

    You are going to be waiting awhile for that answer.
  • Chrlynsch
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    Kaysha wrote: »
    Chrlynsch wrote: »
    Kaysha wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Bleeds are in a fine place, tanks need to stop crying. You have a counter, and I'm glad to see you all dying for a change.

    The game needs to be harder than holding block 24/7.

    Where is the 2 piece set that gives me 1500 HPS for pressing one button. And I don´t play tanks btw.

    What does 1500 hps have to do with anything?

    Master DW adds 1500 DPS without any sacrifice. And you just have to press one button. Where is a comparable counter?

    Bleed ticks every 2 seconds so no... it adds 750 dps
    Caius
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  • Chrlynsch
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    All I need to have is 2.5k hps and use a black rose prison reso staff to give me
    A. a damage shield
    b. 750 extra hps

    If it is perfected I also get regen as well
    Edited by Chrlynsch on March 17, 2019 8:00PM
    Caius
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  • Kaysha
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    Chrlynsch wrote: »
    All I need to have is 2.5k hps and use a black rose prison reso staff to give me
    A. a damage shield
    b. 750 extra hps

    If it is perfected I also get regen as well

    What do you have to do to achieve 2,5k hps in NO CP?

    Everyone who defends master DW is just a hypocrite who wants to keep his win-button untouched.
  • Chrlynsch
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    Kaysha wrote: »
    Chrlynsch wrote: »
    All I need to have is 2.5k hps and use a black rose prison reso staff to give me
    A. a damage shield
    b. 750 extra hps

    If it is perfected I also get regen as well

    What do you have to do to achieve 2,5k hps in NO CP?

    Everyone who defends master DW is just a hypocrite who wants to keep his win-button untouched.

    Never got the master DW thus, never used it. Just trying to post some facts on the forum instead of spewing false information, I get it you don't like mastet axes, but do you have to lie?
    Edited by Chrlynsch on March 17, 2019 8:23PM
    Caius
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    PC NA
  • Chrlynsch
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    Kaysha wrote: »
    No, wrong answer. I didn´t ask for a monster set.

    You just reduced my damage by 30% and my defence by 10%. Try again.

    You asked for a 2 piece set, Monster sets are two piece sets. Go home, you are drunk.
    Caius
    Pack Leader of Scourge Alliance- First Fang of Hircine, The Beast of Bruma
    PC NA
  • Kaysha
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    What does the master bleed do to you? You either have to get full defensive, in which case you will not win the fight, or you run away. Because you won´t be able to heal through the bleed while applying enough pressure to kill your opponent.

    And please enlighten my, if that´s a lie.

    And please keep in mind, that I´m only speaking about NO CP here.
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