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Is cheat engine back on the rise?
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swirve✭✭✭✭This is why i couldn't handle playing on PC.
I have my doubts about many console players as it is, let alone if they had easy access to the macros / CE / add on crap pc does.
Sure many people that cry cheat are wrong, and haven't seen the spec or ability people cam achieve. But then when you see the same players always doing odd stuff or taking advantage, the doubt is there.
I've seem the same team of 4 blinking invisible on two separate nights. I'm WELL aware it could be coincidence.....but.....
This was a year ago, but still shows that cheating happens on console.
This is PS4. You can clearly see this players health cannot go to zero, he's/she's dropping banners left and right, sometimes 4 at a time (and they have a high ultimate cost), doing no healing or any defensive measure....just dropping ultimates and spamming steel tornado. Also cannot be bashed.
You can see other members of his faction enter the tower and get obliterated, there's so much damage going on. But somehow, this person cannot be killed.
https://youtu.be/8kLbQY3Trxk
Cheating happens on console too.
Edit: I agree cheating gets thrown around way too often, and isn't always the case. Because of that, I think it's far too easy to dismiss someone who's actually cheating.
There's a huge difference between getting beat by a good player, and someone like in the above video.
But the PC is home to the master race of cheaters, console cheaters are amateurs in comparison.3 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Attacked someone just now and should have easily killed them only their health wouldn't go down past around 10%...
after leaping on em getting em low I couldn't use any ability on my bar other than wings. could light attack though and after dodge rolling was able to use an ability before losing the ability to do so again and thus had to dodge roll again.
person just stood there being light attacked and fossilized after i'd dodge roll...couldn't get any other attacks off other than another leap. his health never went down then the group he was with came and killed me after circling around me watching me try and do any kind of damage to this guy.
Cheating does exist just like before.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GaryA
Is there anything being done about cheating in this game?
There is a bug with Yokeda (and possibly phoenix) that makes you "immortal" and you can attack but apparently take no damage. So far encountered 5 losers using it for gain since Summerset launch, and one person had no clue what was going on. Obviously someone will eventually find it and exploit it, if its not already known and out there. Cannot discuss it further since I have not had time to find the bug, replicate it, and report it. But given that bug exists, I wouldn't be surprised if another one existed and that guy ran into it and then his buddies wanted to "see" if he was really immortal. Still cheating though.0 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
All I can say is that if you try to melee certain players on PC NA you will find you can't. They are meleeing you, your ability won't fire. Explain away, had an obvious one last night... totally could not melee the guy. Fortunately I'm used to the games being played and run melee abilities and ranged abilities. It's obviously a positional hack.
The one thing the OP got wrong is that there isn't an upswing in usage, it's been in use for years now. Maybe some new players picked it up and haven't realized what they can get away with and what they can't. They will be weeded out by attrition, just like the WW video guy will be. For every one of them, there is one that realizes you can't make it obvious... you need to do things that can be explained away.
That’s a problem for literally everyone. Have you never dueled anyone decent before?
It wasn't I couldn't melee him one time. It was I couldn't melee him for an extended period of time. Eventually poison injection ticking on him whittled him down to execute range and it's reapplication with double damage poison on him ended him. I was ambushing and light attack surprise attack->dodge roll and couldn't land a single attack that was melee. Sure you can chalk it up as something else, I'm sure he will sing your praises for doing so.. but, it becomes quite suspicious after a time.
You missed out on those asteriked out names and the fun that was. The best part is they used to post on these forums dropping ZOS names saying that they had perused their build and it was intelligent design and build. That was until they were gone for good... unfortunately that took over a year and they were nightly in the game and it was nearly impossible to kill them (that's with a whole group attacking them).
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't rule out the chance they are out to get me.
What if I told youAttacked someone just now and should have easily killed them only their health wouldn't go down past around 10%...
after leaping on em getting em low I couldn't use any ability on my bar other than wings. could light attack though and after dodge rolling was able to use an ability before losing the ability to do so again and thus had to dodge roll again.
person just stood there being light attacked and fossilized after i'd dodge roll...couldn't get any other attacks off other than another leap. his health never went down then the group he was with came and killed me after circling around me watching me try and do any kind of damage to this guy.
Cheating does exist just like before.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GaryA
Is there anything being done about cheating in this game?
There is a bug with Yokeda (and possibly phoenix) that makes you "immortal" and you can attack but apparently take no damage. So far encountered 5 losers using it for gain since Summerset launch, and one person had no clue what was going on. Obviously someone will eventually find it and exploit it, if its not already known and out there. Cannot discuss it further since I have not had time to find the bug, replicate it, and report it. But given that bug exists, I wouldn't be surprised if another one existed and that guy ran into it and then his buddies wanted to "see" if he was really immortal. Still cheating though.
It’s not a new bug. I personally reported this years ago2 -
Thogard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
Do you realize you just admitted to using CE. Why should anyone trust a video you may make.
He’s a console player.
PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp1 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
Do you realize you just admitted to using CE. Why should anyone trust a video you may make.
He’s a console player.
I can’t even figure out a way to respond to him that won’t get me banned4 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
All I can say is that if you try to melee certain players on PC NA you will find you can't. They are meleeing you, your ability won't fire. Explain away, had an obvious one last night... totally could not melee the guy. Fortunately I'm used to the games being played and run melee abilities and ranged abilities. It's obviously a positional hack.
The one thing the OP got wrong is that there isn't an upswing in usage, it's been in use for years now. Maybe some new players picked it up and haven't realized what they can get away with and what they can't. They will be weeded out by attrition, just like the WW video guy will be. For every one of them, there is one that realizes you can't make it obvious... you need to do things that can be explained away.
That’s a problem for literally everyone. Have you never dueled anyone decent before?
It wasn't I couldn't melee him one time. It was I couldn't melee him for an extended period of time. Eventually poison injection ticking on him whittled him down to execute range and it's reapplication with double damage poison on him ended him. I was ambushing and light attack surprise attack->dodge roll and couldn't land a single attack that was melee. Sure you can chalk it up as something else, I'm sure he will sing your praises for doing so.. but, it becomes quite suspicious after a time.
You missed out on those asteriked out names and the fun that was. The best part is they used to post on these forums dropping ZOS names saying that they had perused their build and it was intelligent design and build. That was until they were gone for good... unfortunately that took over a year and they were nightly in the game and it was nearly impossible to kill them (that's with a whole group attacking them).
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't rule out the chance they are out to get me.
What if I told youAttacked someone just now and should have easily killed them only their health wouldn't go down past around 10%...
after leaping on em getting em low I couldn't use any ability on my bar other than wings. could light attack though and after dodge rolling was able to use an ability before losing the ability to do so again and thus had to dodge roll again.
person just stood there being light attacked and fossilized after i'd dodge roll...couldn't get any other attacks off other than another leap. his health never went down then the group he was with came and killed me after circling around me watching me try and do any kind of damage to this guy.
Cheating does exist just like before.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GaryA
Is there anything being done about cheating in this game?
There is a bug with Yokeda (and possibly phoenix) that makes you "immortal" and you can attack but apparently take no damage. So far encountered 5 losers using it for gain since Summerset launch, and one person had no clue what was going on. Obviously someone will eventually find it and exploit it, if its not already known and out there. Cannot discuss it further since I have not had time to find the bug, replicate it, and report it. But given that bug exists, I wouldn't be surprised if another one existed and that guy ran into it and then his buddies wanted to "see" if he was really immortal. Still cheating though.
It’s not a new bug. I personally reported this years ago
What if i told you I was able to hit him with ranged abilities, oh wait i did.
Yes, I've seen the immortal bug. It allows you to attack them, you just do no damage.
What I mentioned was not that, it was someone that was (obviously) positionally out of sync (quite intentionally), but was able to launch melee attacks at me while, other than ambush which would land, I was unable to fire melee abilities at him. I was able to maintain poison injection on him (as well as another player that was attacking with ranged attacks) and that ultimately killed him.
I run into these players from time to time... usually embedded into a group of players not cheating. It's not easy to pick them out in fast paced combat either.
The aforementioned asteriked named dudes did not behave like that all. They took damage, just very very little. When they got low the damage didn't kill them either.2 -
MajBludd✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Was just in a bg. Capture the relic, we are fighting at our relic.
An enemy is grabbing the relic and my team is fighting our way to him. He disappears and our relic is off map. Then appears at the enemies base with the guy who grabbed it.2 -
MetalHead4x4✭✭✭Its a common thing with a LOT of the top NB's that are a pain in the ass to kill, I see them with low health, shouldn't be hard to kill them, I'm running them down and Endless Fury WILL NOT cast. I have LOS and nothing will go off, like I can't target them. Then they vanish for a second and reappear with full health and insta-burst kill me. Its ridiculous, they should be dead.
Same with the ridiculously short burst that they seem to pull out of their ass. I spot a NB, shield cast, I fall dead. It says they get off 5 attacks and combat log shows it was all in 1 second and there was 0 animation. Or I'm blocking and fall dead cause I blocked a gap closer and it says Scourge and Lethal Arrow hit me and the NB never switched from his 2 hander. There's just a lot of fishy NB play. If you're pulling off a bar swap and 2 attacks with no animation at all, thats not a bug.
Another example, I land (luckily with all the dodge BS) a Destructive Reach on a NB for a whopping 1k, but the 8 second DoT you see it ticking off them... miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss. How can every single DoT be missing? There's no possible way in hell you can consistently dodge that many times.
They also say Lighting Heavy attack can't be dodged, but when a NB cloaks the attack goes off, so they are dodging it.PC/NA Daevyen the Warlock (Sorc)3 -
Hal_Moore✭✭✭Attacked someone just now and should have easily killed them only their health wouldn't go down past around 10%...
after leaping on em getting em low I couldn't use any ability on my bar other than wings. could light attack though and after dodge rolling was able to use an ability before losing the ability to do so again and thus had to dodge roll again.
person just stood there being light attacked and fossilized after i'd dodge roll...couldn't get any other attacks off other than another leap. his health never went down then the group he was with came and killed me after circling around me watching me try and do any kind of damage to this guy.
Cheating does exist just like before.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GaryA
Is there anything being done about cheating in this game?
Again, not cheat engine. You got stuck in sprint, it’s a very common bug.People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
There are plenty of known bugs and fixes for them. It was not a bug in this case. While I do appreciate the willingness to defend cheaters and the assumption that this is cheat engine... I never said it was cheat engine.
That fact that i got his health down to 10% with a leap and couldn't get it lower with constant LA+dodge roll+ ability and even ANOTHER leap and his health wouldn't go down.
SORRY but definitely cheating.3 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
Do you realize you just admitted to using CE. Why should anyone trust a video you may make.
He’s a console player.People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
Do you realize you just admitted to using CE. Why should anyone trust a video you may make.
He’s a console player.
I can’t even figure out a way to respond to him that won’t get me banned
Of course there is no cheating on console's. Nope no bots or hacks or anything.
If you can't explain yourself without fear of getting banned, you may want to rethink what you think are facts.5 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Had players tonight literally disappearing. (Ps4) Right in front of everyone. I would use crit rush and as soon as I get close....gone. Pretty sure wasn't a nightblade either, but it is late and I could be mistaken.
I do have a video of it, but posting will have to wait as its midnight my time and I need sleep...
This is easily duplicated, take your console off hard line and clog your bandwidth streaming videos or music. You’ll lag slightly but that’s what causes the constant disappearing.
This isn’t CE but rather a bug.
Yeah, looking over the clip, seems like lag was the cause of players disappearing.This is why i couldn't handle playing on PC.
I have my doubts about many console players as it is, let alone if they had easy access to the macros / CE / add on crap pc does.
Sure many people that cry cheat are wrong, and haven't seen the spec or ability people cam achieve. But then when you see the same players always doing odd stuff or taking advantage, the doubt is there.
I've seem the same team of 4 blinking invisible on two separate nights. I'm WELL aware it could be coincidence.....but.....
This was a year ago, but still shows that cheating happens on console.
This is PS4. You can clearly see this players health cannot go to zero, he's/she's dropping banners left and right, sometimes 4 at a time (and they have a high ultimate cost), doing no healing or any defensive measure....just dropping ultimates and spamming steel tornado. Also cannot be bashed.
You can see other members of his faction enter the tower and get obliterated, there's so much damage going on. But somehow, this person cannot be killed.https://youtu.be/8kLbQY3Trxk
Cheating happens on console too.
Edit: I agree cheating gets thrown around way too often, and isn't always the case. Because of that, I think it's far too easy to dismiss someone who's actually cheating.
There's a huge difference between getting beat by a good player, and someone like in the above video.
this is not a "cheat" its just a bug, it happened to me a few times , got immortality till i reloged.
How he's/she's able to just drop ultimates at will?
That's not a bug....sorry.
Here's another clip. A little more obvious.
Same player, btw. Again, this is on console too. Something is (or was) definitely up with this guy.
https://youtu.be/1yYgmitCOzU Edited by Kel on September 12, 2018 10:20PM4 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
Do you realize you just admitted to using CE. Why should anyone trust a video you may make.
He’s a console player.People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
Do you realize you just admitted to using CE. Why should anyone trust a video you may make.
He’s a console player.
I can’t even figure out a way to respond to him that won’t get me banned
Of course there is no cheating on console's. Nope no bots or hacks or anything.
If you can't explain yourself without fear of getting banned, you may want to rethink what you think are facts.
I’ll get forum banned if I respond to you the way you deserve because I’m on my final warning.
There’s almost 0 REAL cheating anywhere and most of it is in PVE anyway.Edited by Lexxypwns on September 12, 2018 10:25PM0 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭@jabrone77 I can 100% recreate the invisible/skipping around bug on demand. I tested with a buddy and sent the footage to ZoS explaining it.
It’s definitely not always intentional when it occurs for some people though since playing on a WiFi connection often causes it and some people simply can’t hard line to their router3 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@jabrone77 I can 100% recreate the invisible/skipping around bug on demand. I tested with a buddy and sent the footage to ZoS explaining it.
It’s definitely not always intentional when it occurs for some people though since playing on a WiFi connection often causes it and some people simply can’t hard line to their router
I am hard wired into my internet, but still, lag was the cause.
Unless you mean them.
Still, asking around in chat, this was happening to everyone.
I'm willing to say that is not a cheat, just another example of server instability.0 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
Do you realize you just admitted to using CE. Why should anyone trust a video you may make.
He’s a console player.People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
Do you realize you just admitted to using CE. Why should anyone trust a video you may make.
He’s a console player.
I can’t even figure out a way to respond to him that won’t get me banned
Of course there is no cheating on console's. Nope no bots or hacks or anything.
If you can't explain yourself without fear of getting banned, you may want to rethink what you think are facts.
I’ll get forum banned if I respond to you the way you deserve because I’m on my final warning.
There’s almost 0 REAL cheating anywhere.
We've heard all your excuses before about how there is almost 0 real cheating. Then people are flying around dropping meteor at will just to prove how bad it really is. This is NOT the first time down this road.
Water finds it's own level.
There is cheating. The people that like to cheat tend to find each other and share their cheats, and the cheating grows and grows until it is everywhere. Each time a cheat is found, the water level of cheating goes up as it is spread around. They may bump up a stat just a percent or two to get an edge, then a little more and a little more, until they clearly stand out.
Like I said, we've heard all the L2P or lag or it's just a bug excuses before. This is exactly how things looked right up until ZOS had to admit CE was a problem last time. It may not be the CE program, just another hack program.9 -
Wollust✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I die more often to not being able to break free than to any "suspicious" circumstances.
Therefore, the lag is my true enemy.
Susano'o
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Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭@jabrone77 I can 100% recreate the invisible/skipping around bug on demand. I tested with a buddy and sent the footage to ZoS explaining it.
It’s definitely not always intentional when it occurs for some people though since playing on a WiFi connection often causes it and some people simply can’t hard line to their router
I am hard wired into my internet, but still, lag was the cause.
Unless you mean them.
Still, asking around in chat, this was happening to everyone.
I'm willing to say that is not a cheat, just another example of server instability.
I’m saying they’re lagging, sometimes intentionally, and their iffy connection to the server causes this. If you unplug your connection and use WiFi, especially a bad(or busy) connection you can replicate this with a friend for testing purposes.
@MetalHead4x4 I actually obviously DO know more about what CE can do than most of the playerbase.Edited by Lexxypwns on September 12, 2018 10:44PM1 -
MetalHead4x4✭✭✭@jabrone77 I can 100% recreate the invisible/skipping around bug on demand. I tested with a buddy and sent the footage to ZoS explaining it.
It’s definitely not always intentional when it occurs for some people though since playing on a WiFi connection often causes it and some people simply can’t hard line to their router
I am hard wired into my internet, but still, lag was the cause.
Unless you mean them.
Still, asking around in chat, this was happening to everyone.
I'm willing to say that is not a cheat, just another example of server instability.
I’m saying they’re lagging, sometimes intentionally, and their iffy connection to the server causes this. If you unplug your connection and use WiFi, especially a bad(or busy) connection you can replicate this with a friend for testing purposes.
@MetalHead4x4 I actually obviously DO know more about what CE can do than most of the playerbase.
Again thats a very broad assumption that you think you know more than anyone else about CE.PC/NA Daevyen the Warlock (Sorc)6 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MetalHead4x4 wrote: »@jabrone77 I can 100% recreate the invisible/skipping around bug on demand. I tested with a buddy and sent the footage to ZoS explaining it.
It’s definitely not always intentional when it occurs for some people though since playing on a WiFi connection often causes it and some people simply can’t hard line to their router
I am hard wired into my internet, but still, lag was the cause.
Unless you mean them.
Still, asking around in chat, this was happening to everyone.
I'm willing to say that is not a cheat, just another example of server instability.
I’m saying they’re lagging, sometimes intentionally, and their iffy connection to the server causes this. If you unplug your connection and use WiFi, especially a bad(or busy) connection you can replicate this with a friend for testing purposes.
@MetalHead4x4 I actually obviously DO know more about what CE can do than most of the playerbase.
Again thats a very broad assumption that you think you know more than anyone else about CE.
Who says it’s an assumption? I was quite good friends with a couple of the people who exposed CE in the first place and I’d say it’s safe to say that the discussions I’ve had with them both before and after the whole spamming meteor incident that I do know more than most people. Especially when you consider forums are a fraction of the playerbase and some people don’t even know about CE working on ESO at all.
I’m definitely reinstalling ESO on PC in the near future and showing exactly what CE can and can’t do because there’s a ton of misinformation out thereEdited by Lexxypwns on September 12, 2018 11:05PM2 -
SirDopey✭✭✭✭✭
✭People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
You're starting to sound very similar to some people that use to be very active on these forums saying that they didn't use CE and were just better than everyone else. When they got busted spamming meteor we were all meant to believe this was the first time they used it and it was for the purpose of bringing it to Zos' attention.......NA PC | AD
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rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
You're starting to sound very similar to some people that use to be very active on these forums saying that they didn't use CE and were just better than everyone else. When they got busted spamming meteor we were all meant to believe this was the first time they used it and it was for the purpose of bringing it to Zos' attention.......
In truth, Z (the primary culprit) was bringing it to ZOS' attention. He was a decent guy and certainly not a raging egomaniac, I didn't know him "well" as I was AD at the time... but, he was a good guy that didn't trash talk people and someone you could joke around with and talk to while being on another faction.1 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
You're starting to sound very similar to some people that use to be very active on these forums saying that they didn't use CE and were just better than everyone else. When they got busted spamming meteor we were all meant to believe this was the first time they used it and it was for the purpose of bringing it to Zos' attention.......
Yeah, except if you played on my platform you’d know there are an absolute ton of people who are way better than me. Why you think it’s taken me like a month to get footage for a PvP video and will take me 2-3 more weeks to sort through it and find anything notable. If I was cheating I would be producing content much more aggressively since I’d get all the clips in the world.
Oh, and cheating on Xbox can end up with your whole system banned from online play. Nice try though.1 -
Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
You're starting to sound very similar to some people that use to be very active on these forums saying that they didn't use CE and were just better than everyone else. When they got busted spamming meteor we were all meant to believe this was the first time they used it and it was for the purpose of bringing it to Zos' attention.......
Yeah, except if you played on my platform you’d know there are an absolute ton of people who are way better than me. Why you think it’s taken me like a month to get footage for a PvP video and will take me 2-3 more weeks to sort through it and find anything notable. If I was cheating I would be producing content much more aggressively since I’d get all the clips in the world.
Oh, and cheating on Xbox can end up with your whole system banned from online play. Nice try though.
Insisting that cheating is almost impossible in this game is an absolute fallacy, though. Especially insisting that it only happens in PVE, especially when there's a video out from just three weeks ago, that has been mentioned in this thread, showcasing what certain programs can currently do, in Cyrodiil.
Cheating is alive, and well, in this game, and insisting it isn't is only hurting yourself. I won't accuse you of cheating, but you can't ignore this evidence.Edited by Judas Helviaryn on September 13, 2018 1:46AM7 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MetalHead4x4 wrote: »@jabrone77 I can 100% recreate the invisible/skipping around bug on demand. I tested with a buddy and sent the footage to ZoS explaining it.
It’s definitely not always intentional when it occurs for some people though since playing on a WiFi connection often causes it and some people simply can’t hard line to their router
I am hard wired into my internet, but still, lag was the cause.
Unless you mean them.
Still, asking around in chat, this was happening to everyone.
I'm willing to say that is not a cheat, just another example of server instability.
I’m saying they’re lagging, sometimes intentionally, and their iffy connection to the server causes this. If you unplug your connection and use WiFi, especially a bad(or busy) connection you can replicate this with a friend for testing purposes.
@MetalHead4x4 I actually obviously DO know more about what CE can do than most of the playerbase.
Again thats a very broad assumption that you think you know more than anyone else about CE.
Who says it’s an assumption? I was quite good friends with a couple of the people who exposed CE in the first place and I’d say it’s safe to say that the discussions I’ve had with them both before and after the whole spamming meteor incident that I do know more than most people. Especially when you consider forums are a fraction of the playerbase and some people don’t even know about CE working on ESO at all.
I’m definitely reinstalling ESO on PC in the near future and showing exactly what CE can and can’t do because there’s a ton of misinformation out there
Don't become another pseudo-martyr...just don't. You will lose your reputation and maybe even friends.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!3 -
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✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »MetalHead4x4 wrote: »@jabrone77 I can 100% recreate the invisible/skipping around bug on demand. I tested with a buddy and sent the footage to ZoS explaining it.
It’s definitely not always intentional when it occurs for some people though since playing on a WiFi connection often causes it and some people simply can’t hard line to their router
I am hard wired into my internet, but still, lag was the cause.
Unless you mean them.
Still, asking around in chat, this was happening to everyone.
I'm willing to say that is not a cheat, just another example of server instability.
I’m saying they’re lagging, sometimes intentionally, and their iffy connection to the server causes this. If you unplug your connection and use WiFi, especially a bad(or busy) connection you can replicate this with a friend for testing purposes.
@MetalHead4x4 I actually obviously DO know more about what CE can do than most of the playerbase.
Again thats a very broad assumption that you think you know more than anyone else about CE.
Who says it’s an assumption? I was quite good friends with a couple of the people who exposed CE in the first place and I’d say it’s safe to say that the discussions I’ve had with them both before and after the whole spamming meteor incident that I do know more than most people. Especially when you consider forums are a fraction of the playerbase and some people don’t even know about CE working on ESO at all.
I’m definitely reinstalling ESO on PC in the near future and showing exactly what CE can and can’t do because there’s a ton of misinformation out there
Don't become another pseudo-martyr...just don't. You will lose your reputation and maybe even friends.
My reputation isn’t tied to a video game and my friends wouldn’t care in the slightest, I don’t associate with people who are so petty as to not be my friend over a video game anyway.
I just think that clearly demonstrating exactly what is possible will be a great resource for the community and for ZoS. People will know definitively that a lot of the stuff in this thread is just BS and ZoS should hopefully get less reports.Judas Helviaryn wrote: »People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
You're starting to sound very similar to some people that use to be very active on these forums saying that they didn't use CE and were just better than everyone else. When they got busted spamming meteor we were all meant to believe this was the first time they used it and it was for the purpose of bringing it to Zos' attention.......
Yeah, except if you played on my platform you’d know there are an absolute ton of people who are way better than me. Why you think it’s taken me like a month to get footage for a PvP video and will take me 2-3 more weeks to sort through it and find anything notable. If I was cheating I would be producing content much more aggressively since I’d get all the clips in the world.
Oh, and cheating on Xbox can end up with your whole system banned from online play. Nice try though.
Insisting that cheating is almost impossible in this game is an absolute fallacy, though. Especially insisting that it only happens in PVE, especially when there's a video out from just three weeks ago, that has been mentioned in this thread, showcasing what certain programs can currently do, in Cyrodiil.
Cheating is alive, and well, in this game, and insisting it isn't is only hurting yourself. I won't accuse you of cheating, but you can't ignore this evidence.
I said almost 0 and primarily in PVE. You’re the one trying to push me into speaking absolutes. The fact is, 99%+ of the playerbase isn’t cheating, but the majority of cheating is in PVE anyway. People have been exploiting snipe glitches in trials openly for years and it occurs on a daily basis.
Now kindly stop putting words in my mouth and say something to actually discredit my arguement. You can’t...1 -
Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »MetalHead4x4 wrote: »@jabrone77 I can 100% recreate the invisible/skipping around bug on demand. I tested with a buddy and sent the footage to ZoS explaining it.
It’s definitely not always intentional when it occurs for some people though since playing on a WiFi connection often causes it and some people simply can’t hard line to their router
I am hard wired into my internet, but still, lag was the cause.
Unless you mean them.
Still, asking around in chat, this was happening to everyone.
I'm willing to say that is not a cheat, just another example of server instability.
I’m saying they’re lagging, sometimes intentionally, and their iffy connection to the server causes this. If you unplug your connection and use WiFi, especially a bad(or busy) connection you can replicate this with a friend for testing purposes.
@MetalHead4x4 I actually obviously DO know more about what CE can do than most of the playerbase.
Again thats a very broad assumption that you think you know more than anyone else about CE.
Who says it’s an assumption? I was quite good friends with a couple of the people who exposed CE in the first place and I’d say it’s safe to say that the discussions I’ve had with them both before and after the whole spamming meteor incident that I do know more than most people. Especially when you consider forums are a fraction of the playerbase and some people don’t even know about CE working on ESO at all.
I’m definitely reinstalling ESO on PC in the near future and showing exactly what CE can and can’t do because there’s a ton of misinformation out there
Don't become another pseudo-martyr...just don't. You will lose your reputation and maybe even friends.
My reputation isn’t tied to a video game and my friends wouldn’t care in the slightest, I don’t associate with people who are so petty as to not be my friend over a video game anyway.
I just think that clearly demonstrating exactly what is possible will be a great resource for the community and for ZoS. People will know definitively that a lot of the stuff in this thread is just BS and ZoS should hopefully get less reports.Judas Helviaryn wrote: »People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
You're starting to sound very similar to some people that use to be very active on these forums saying that they didn't use CE and were just better than everyone else. When they got busted spamming meteor we were all meant to believe this was the first time they used it and it was for the purpose of bringing it to Zos' attention.......
Yeah, except if you played on my platform you’d know there are an absolute ton of people who are way better than me. Why you think it’s taken me like a month to get footage for a PvP video and will take me 2-3 more weeks to sort through it and find anything notable. If I was cheating I would be producing content much more aggressively since I’d get all the clips in the world.
Oh, and cheating on Xbox can end up with your whole system banned from online play. Nice try though.
Insisting that cheating is almost impossible in this game is an absolute fallacy, though. Especially insisting that it only happens in PVE, especially when there's a video out from just three weeks ago, that has been mentioned in this thread, showcasing what certain programs can currently do, in Cyrodiil.
Cheating is alive, and well, in this game, and insisting it isn't is only hurting yourself. I won't accuse you of cheating, but you can't ignore this evidence.
I said almost 0 and primarily in PVE. You’re the one trying to push me into speaking absolutes. The fact is, 99%+ of the playerbase isn’t cheating, but the majority of cheating is in PVE anyway. People have been exploiting snipe glitches in trials openly for years and it occurs on a daily basis.
Now kindly stop putting words in my mouth and say something to actually discredit my arguement. You can’t...
Now see, if I were trying to push you into an absolute argument, I would have said you were insisting that cheating was impossible, full stop. You cannot truly judge what percentage of the playerbase is cheating, therefore it is not fact.
If you are getting defensive, that is not because of me. Kindly do not put words in my mouth.4 -
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✭✭I die more often to not being able to break free than to any "suspicious" circumstances.
Therefore, the lag is my true enemy.
When a zerg descends on you and you get CC'd or attacked, I swear the game purposely lags every time just so you die
One moment it might be smooth and the next your skills don't work, but it still lets you block or roll and when you dodge or gain some distance you can use skills. It happens so often I wonder if its intentional sometimes. 1 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Sheezabeast wrote: »MetalHead4x4 wrote: »@jabrone77 I can 100% recreate the invisible/skipping around bug on demand. I tested with a buddy and sent the footage to ZoS explaining it.
It’s definitely not always intentional when it occurs for some people though since playing on a WiFi connection often causes it and some people simply can’t hard line to their router
I am hard wired into my internet, but still, lag was the cause.
Unless you mean them.
Still, asking around in chat, this was happening to everyone.
I'm willing to say that is not a cheat, just another example of server instability.
I’m saying they’re lagging, sometimes intentionally, and their iffy connection to the server causes this. If you unplug your connection and use WiFi, especially a bad(or busy) connection you can replicate this with a friend for testing purposes.
@MetalHead4x4 I actually obviously DO know more about what CE can do than most of the playerbase.
Again thats a very broad assumption that you think you know more than anyone else about CE.
Who says it’s an assumption? I was quite good friends with a couple of the people who exposed CE in the first place and I’d say it’s safe to say that the discussions I’ve had with them both before and after the whole spamming meteor incident that I do know more than most people. Especially when you consider forums are a fraction of the playerbase and some people don’t even know about CE working on ESO at all.
I’m definitely reinstalling ESO on PC in the near future and showing exactly what CE can and can’t do because there’s a ton of misinformation out there
Don't become another pseudo-martyr...just don't. You will lose your reputation and maybe even friends.
My reputation isn’t tied to a video game and my friends wouldn’t care in the slightest, I don’t associate with people who are so petty as to not be my friend over a video game anyway.
I just think that clearly demonstrating exactly what is possible will be a great resource for the community and for ZoS. People will know definitively that a lot of the stuff in this thread is just BS and ZoS should hopefully get less reports.Judas Helviaryn wrote: »People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
You're starting to sound very similar to some people that use to be very active on these forums saying that they didn't use CE and were just better than everyone else. When they got busted spamming meteor we were all meant to believe this was the first time they used it and it was for the purpose of bringing it to Zos' attention.......
Yeah, except if you played on my platform you’d know there are an absolute ton of people who are way better than me. Why you think it’s taken me like a month to get footage for a PvP video and will take me 2-3 more weeks to sort through it and find anything notable. If I was cheating I would be producing content much more aggressively since I’d get all the clips in the world.
Oh, and cheating on Xbox can end up with your whole system banned from online play. Nice try though.
Insisting that cheating is almost impossible in this game is an absolute fallacy, though. Especially insisting that it only happens in PVE, especially when there's a video out from just three weeks ago, that has been mentioned in this thread, showcasing what certain programs can currently do, in Cyrodiil.
Cheating is alive, and well, in this game, and insisting it isn't is only hurting yourself. I won't accuse you of cheating, but you can't ignore this evidence.
I said almost 0 and primarily in PVE. You’re the one trying to push me into speaking absolutes. The fact is, 99%+ of the playerbase isn’t cheating, but the majority of cheating is in PVE anyway. People have been exploiting snipe glitches in trials openly for years and it occurs on a daily basis.
Now kindly stop putting words in my mouth and say something to actually discredit my arguement. You can’t...
Now see, if I were trying to push you into an absolute argument, I would have said you were insisting that cheating was impossible, full stop. You cannot truly judge what percentage of the playerbase is cheating, therefore it is not fact.
If you are getting defensive, that is not because of me. Kindly do not put words in my mouth.
I can say that the official stats say we’re over 10m players and that less than 10,000 players are cheating. Would you argue that more than 10k players are cheating? 100k? 1m?Edited by Lexxypwns on September 13, 2018 2:43AM0 -
Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Sheezabeast wrote: »MetalHead4x4 wrote: »@jabrone77 I can 100% recreate the invisible/skipping around bug on demand. I tested with a buddy and sent the footage to ZoS explaining it.
It’s definitely not always intentional when it occurs for some people though since playing on a WiFi connection often causes it and some people simply can’t hard line to their router
I am hard wired into my internet, but still, lag was the cause.
Unless you mean them.
Still, asking around in chat, this was happening to everyone.
I'm willing to say that is not a cheat, just another example of server instability.
I’m saying they’re lagging, sometimes intentionally, and their iffy connection to the server causes this. If you unplug your connection and use WiFi, especially a bad(or busy) connection you can replicate this with a friend for testing purposes.
@MetalHead4x4 I actually obviously DO know more about what CE can do than most of the playerbase.
Again thats a very broad assumption that you think you know more than anyone else about CE.
Who says it’s an assumption? I was quite good friends with a couple of the people who exposed CE in the first place and I’d say it’s safe to say that the discussions I’ve had with them both before and after the whole spamming meteor incident that I do know more than most people. Especially when you consider forums are a fraction of the playerbase and some people don’t even know about CE working on ESO at all.
I’m definitely reinstalling ESO on PC in the near future and showing exactly what CE can and can’t do because there’s a ton of misinformation out there
Don't become another pseudo-martyr...just don't. You will lose your reputation and maybe even friends.
My reputation isn’t tied to a video game and my friends wouldn’t care in the slightest, I don’t associate with people who are so petty as to not be my friend over a video game anyway.
I just think that clearly demonstrating exactly what is possible will be a great resource for the community and for ZoS. People will know definitively that a lot of the stuff in this thread is just BS and ZoS should hopefully get less reports.Judas Helviaryn wrote: »People really need to spend some time learning game mechanics, 99% of the *** in this thread are just known bugs.
Wonder if I’d get banned if I made a video showing exactly what CE can and can’t do. I think it’s be a good resource
You're starting to sound very similar to some people that use to be very active on these forums saying that they didn't use CE and were just better than everyone else. When they got busted spamming meteor we were all meant to believe this was the first time they used it and it was for the purpose of bringing it to Zos' attention.......
Yeah, except if you played on my platform you’d know there are an absolute ton of people who are way better than me. Why you think it’s taken me like a month to get footage for a PvP video and will take me 2-3 more weeks to sort through it and find anything notable. If I was cheating I would be producing content much more aggressively since I’d get all the clips in the world.
Oh, and cheating on Xbox can end up with your whole system banned from online play. Nice try though.
Insisting that cheating is almost impossible in this game is an absolute fallacy, though. Especially insisting that it only happens in PVE, especially when there's a video out from just three weeks ago, that has been mentioned in this thread, showcasing what certain programs can currently do, in Cyrodiil.
Cheating is alive, and well, in this game, and insisting it isn't is only hurting yourself. I won't accuse you of cheating, but you can't ignore this evidence.
I said almost 0 and primarily in PVE. You’re the one trying to push me into speaking absolutes. The fact is, 99%+ of the playerbase isn’t cheating, but the majority of cheating is in PVE anyway. People have been exploiting snipe glitches in trials openly for years and it occurs on a daily basis.
Now kindly stop putting words in my mouth and say something to actually discredit my arguement. You can’t...
Now see, if I were trying to push you into an absolute argument, I would have said you were insisting that cheating was impossible, full stop. You cannot truly judge what percentage of the playerbase is cheating, therefore it is not fact.
If you are getting defensive, that is not because of me. Kindly do not put words in my mouth.
I can say that the official stats say we’re over 10m players and that less than 10,000 players are cheating. Would you argue that more than 10k players are cheating? 100k? 1m?
Absolutely nobody can say that for fact, without figuring out a way to measure and quantify it. You can harbor a certain suspicion, like most people do, but you'll fall victim to confirmation bias.
Figure out a way to do the above, and only then can there be an actual discussion on the number of people cheating in this game.
All we know right now is that cheating is possible, it happens in PVP and PVE, anecdotally.8
This discussion has been closed.