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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
Magplar PvP
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BNOC✭✭✭✭✭It helps that a lot of the ‘follow the cheesy meta’ guys are generally worse than me in PvP
They usually are. You notice a lot of 'strong' and 'meta' CP players getting ruined in no-CP.cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »Just checking in after testing new build. 5/1/1 light Throat/Shackle/Bloodspawn with full tristat/impen, spell damage/swift. I've never had such a well balanced, non cheese build. Stats are insane. I think I'm in love.
Did you somehow manage to aquire a set of Bright Throat jewelry already or do you use Shackle for those slots ? Crafted and upgraded jewelry is still prohibitively expensive on PC-EU.
There wasn't much jewelry available and it still would have cost as much to buy/upgrade as crafting. I used Shackle for jewels/weapons and just bought the cheapest body pieces of Throat, transmuted a couple. Still cost half a mil for the build... will cost another 900k to gold out jewels.
Not got this yet on console and the BuildEditor isn't updated with the sets - I've been trying to make rough calculations on set combos:- Innate Axiom + AmberPlasm
- Amber Plasm + Shackle
- Shackle + Bright Throat
- Bright Throat + Treasure
- Bright Throat + AmberPlasm
- Innate Axiom + Shackle
- ...
Hoping it's a bit naughty!
To All: What drink are you using with Bright-Throat? WMPB? I'm so used to using Clockwork Citrus Fillet that I forgot other drink options.Edited by BNOC on October 25, 2018 2:33PMvMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
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Spring Loaded would be the way to go for pvp.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Datolite✭✭✭✭✭
For flat stats, sure. With Throat + Shackle though, I find if I stick with WMPB/Citrus Filet I can squeeze more damage and even 3x swift out of my jewelry without any drawbacks. Never low on stam, never out of magicka. Buffed up, my SD is 3.6k and mag regen 2k.0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
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For flat stats, sure. With Throat + Shackle though, I find if I stick with WMPB/Citrus Filet I can squeeze more damage and even 3x swift out of my jewelry without any drawbacks. Never low on stam, never out of magicka. Buffed up, my SD is 3.6k and mag regen 2k.
You might be better off going steed with 1 swift? then infused or max stat? Hard to tell without the build editor.
I will be using deep-throat with spring loaded drink and trans set. Cheap/budget. But I will also wait till prices drop on that set when everyone has 100+ body pieces up on the traders lol. I will also use restoring rune to cover the stam rec since ele drain with 1900 mag is more than enough with 2 staffs.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Datolite✭✭✭✭✭
For flat stats, sure. With Throat + Shackle though, I find if I stick with WMPB/Citrus Filet I can squeeze more damage and even 3x swift out of my jewelry without any drawbacks. Never low on stam, never out of magicka. Buffed up, my SD is 3.6k and mag regen 2k.
You might be better off going steed with 1 swift? then infused or max stat? Hard to tell without the build editor.
I will be using deep-throat with spring loaded drink and trans set. Cheap/budget. But I will also wait till prices drop on that set when everyone has 100+ body pieces up on the traders lol. I will also use restoring rune to cover the stam rec since ele drain with 1900 mag is more than enough with 2 staffs.
Or.... I could find room for elemental drain and go steed plus 3x swift for max zoomies!
This set really makes anything possible.
BTW does Steed only buff run speed or sprint as well?Edited by Datolite on October 25, 2018 3:44PM0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
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For flat stats, sure. With Throat + Shackle though, I find if I stick with WMPB/Citrus Filet I can squeeze more damage and even 3x swift out of my jewelry without any drawbacks. Never low on stam, never out of magicka. Buffed up, my SD is 3.6k and mag regen 2k.
You might be better off going steed with 1 swift? then infused or max stat? Hard to tell without the build editor.
I will be using deep-throat with spring loaded drink and trans set. Cheap/budget. But I will also wait till prices drop on that set when everyone has 100+ body pieces up on the traders lol. I will also use restoring rune to cover the stam rec since ele drain with 1900 mag is more than enough with 2 staffs.
Or.... I could find room for elemental drain and go steed plus 3x swift for max zoomies!
This set really makes anything possible.
BTW does Steed only buff run speed or sprint as well?
It will really be the best set to run on magplar. It opens up your options.
IDK about sprint/steed. I do know windrunner is multiplicative but impacts all movement. Steed should work with orc speed buff and major exp, so it will work. If it doesn't, lucky it's only a mundas buff so just try it :PMinno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Datolite✭✭✭✭✭
For flat stats, sure. With Throat + Shackle though, I find if I stick with WMPB/Citrus Filet I can squeeze more damage and even 3x swift out of my jewelry without any drawbacks. Never low on stam, never out of magicka. Buffed up, my SD is 3.6k and mag regen 2k.
You might be better off going steed with 1 swift? then infused or max stat? Hard to tell without the build editor.
I will be using deep-throat with spring loaded drink and trans set. Cheap/budget. But I will also wait till prices drop on that set when everyone has 100+ body pieces up on the traders lol. I will also use restoring rune to cover the stam rec since ele drain with 1900 mag is more than enough with 2 staffs.
Or.... I could find room for elemental drain and go steed plus 3x swift for max zoomies!
This set really makes anything possible.
BTW does Steed only buff run speed or sprint as well?
It will really be the best set to run on magplar. It opens up your options.
IDK about sprint/steed. I do know windrunner is multiplicative but impacts all movement. Steed should work with orc speed buff and major exp, so it will work. If it doesn't, lucky it's only a mundas buff so just try it :P
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Thankyou thankyou - I'm a bit concerned that I'll have too much stamina with these foods (~16k off the top of my head) and I really don't need that much for no-CP - I run at 11/12k currently and it's fine. Will try them all at release either way so cheers for the names.
For flat stats, sure. With Throat + Shackle though, I find if I stick with WMPB/Citrus Filet I can squeeze more damage and even 3x swift out of my jewelry without any drawbacks. Never low on stam, never out of magicka. Buffed up, my SD is 3.6k and mag regen 2k.
Citrus Fillet is a food, it won't work with Bright-Throat - Unless I'm not aware of something? It's a shame if it doesn't actually as it's 500 extra Mag and since I cured vampirism, I feel like I've noticed the ~1k health recovery a tiny bit.vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
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✭✭✭✭No, Citrus Filet doesn't work with Bright Throat. Since you aren't a vamp and don't want more stam (*gasp*), Double Bloody Mara is probably a good choice.
People buy a lot of the oddball foods that have been released in various DLCs and events. I don't know what builds use some of these, honestly.
I'm kinda disappointed there are no new argonian recipes with Murkmire.
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Datolite✭✭✭✭✭
Thankyou thankyou - I'm a bit concerned that I'll have too much stamina with these foods (~16k off the top of my head) and I really don't need that much for no-CP - I run at 11/12k currently and it's fine. Will try them all at release either way so cheers for the names.
For flat stats, sure. With Throat + Shackle though, I find if I stick with WMPB/Citrus Filet I can squeeze more damage and even 3x swift out of my jewelry without any drawbacks. Never low on stam, never out of magicka. Buffed up, my SD is 3.6k and mag regen 2k.
Citrus Fillet is a food, it won't work with Bright-Throat - Unless I'm not aware of something? It's a shame if it doesn't actually as it's 500 extra Mag and since I cured vampirism, I feel like I've noticed the ~1k health recovery a tiny bit.
You're right I guess since it had similar stats to Witchmother I assumed it was the more expensive version of it. In my case, it's the purple drank I'm using. I also find that any more stam would be overkill with my build, so I'll happily take the mag regen instead.0 -
cazlonb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »Just checking in after testing new build. 5/1/1 light Throat/Shackle/Bloodspawn with full tristat/impen, spell damage/swift. I've never had such a well balanced, non cheese build. Stats are insane. I think I'm in love.
Did you somehow manage to aquire a set of Bright Throat jewelry already or do you use Shackle for those slots ? Crafted and upgraded jewelry is still prohibitively expensive on PC-EU.
There wasn't much jewelry available and it still would have cost as much to buy/upgrade as crafting. I used Shackle for jewels/weapons and just bought the cheapest body pieces of Throat, transmuted a couple. Still cost half a mil for the build... will cost another 900k to gold out jewels.
I'll wait till I can get hold of Bright Throat jewelry, so I have the option to go heavy. Vivec-EU is barely running at all at the moment anyway, so I'm not in that much of a hurry I guess. Body pieces I already got like 3 full sets from farming for skulls during the time I'd usually spend in PvP.Edited by cazlonb16_ESO on October 25, 2018 6:12PM0 -
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✭yea I love the set, against non shield players it's huge burst if time ults combo with itEdited by Syiccal on October 26, 2018 3:40PM0 -
ccmedaddy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ooh thanks for reminding me that MA exists. Been thinking about going for a Force Pulse build and MA seems like a no brainer for that particular setup.
My only issue now is to figure out which crappy skill from the Aedric Spears skill line I need to shoehorn into my already crowded bar for the crit dmg.
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✭✭✭✭✭Ooh thanks for reminding me that MA exists. Been thinking about going for a Force Pulse build and MA seems like a no brainer for that particular setup.
My only issue now is to figure out which crappy skill from the Aedric Spears skill line I need to shoehorn into my already crowded bar for the crit dmg.
empowering sweeps might help for you. It maybe physical, but the defense will outshine the offense, especially if you have skoria.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭✭✭Glyph meta is so stupid I can't be bothered to play.
I was hoping it wouldn't actually take off--without it, it's a patch with a lot of potential...but (despite having those gold DW torugs swords I mentioned a few pages back) I have no real desire to play double dw enchant machine, and no desire to play against it, either.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub4 -
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I guess I could but I was going to go for ranged single-target dmg and Soul Assault seems like the most appropriate ult for this build lol.Ooh thanks for reminding me that MA exists. Been thinking about going for a Force Pulse build and MA seems like a no brainer for that particular setup.
My only issue now is to figure out which crappy skill from the Aedric Spears skill line I need to shoehorn into my already crowded bar for the crit dmg.
empowering sweeps might help for you. It maybe physical, but the defense will outshine the offense, especially if you have skoria.
My front bar, if I go with this build, will be: vamp bane, crushing shock, PL, ele drain, flame reach, soul assault
I would normally replace Reach with Javelin but, ya know, enchantments and stuff. I'm inclined to just give up the crit damage tbh. The Aedric Spears skill line is just... depressing.
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
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I guess I could but I was going to go for ranged single-target dmg and Soul Assault seems like the most appropriate ult for this build lol.Ooh thanks for reminding me that MA exists. Been thinking about going for a Force Pulse build and MA seems like a no brainer for that particular setup.
My only issue now is to figure out which crappy skill from the Aedric Spears skill line I need to shoehorn into my already crowded bar for the crit dmg.
empowering sweeps might help for you. It maybe physical, but the defense will outshine the offense, especially if you have skoria.
My front bar, if I go with this build, will be: vamp bane, crushing shock, PL, ele drain, flame reach, soul assault
I would normally replace Reach with Javelin but, ya know, enchantments and stuff. I'm inclined to just give up the crit damage tbh. The Aedric Spears skill line is just... depressing.
yea just give it up. 10% spell pen on the dot/initial hit > 10% crit dmg anyway.
If you find yourself constantly in mele range, then swap SA for empowering sweeps/cresant (which is what I do).Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Will keep that in mind, thank you!
I guess I could but I was going to go for ranged single-target dmg and Soul Assault seems like the most appropriate ult for this build lol.Ooh thanks for reminding me that MA exists. Been thinking about going for a Force Pulse build and MA seems like a no brainer for that particular setup.
My only issue now is to figure out which crappy skill from the Aedric Spears skill line I need to shoehorn into my already crowded bar for the crit dmg.
empowering sweeps might help for you. It maybe physical, but the defense will outshine the offense, especially if you have skoria.
My front bar, if I go with this build, will be: vamp bane, crushing shock, PL, ele drain, flame reach, soul assault
I would normally replace Reach with Javelin but, ya know, enchantments and stuff. I'm inclined to just give up the crit damage tbh. The Aedric Spears skill line is just... depressing.
yea just give it up. 10% spell pen on the dot/initial hit > 10% crit dmg anyway.
If you find yourself constantly in mele range, then swap SA for empowering sweeps/cresant (which is what I do).0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭After all the issues with bleeds and enchants, I finally logged in and I like my magplar right now. 5l 1h 1m, still running shackle and Impreg at 4k crit resist then bloodspawn and I feel pretty survivable and crescent sweep seems to be working so long as I do the weave right on the last hit like always.0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭After all the issues with bleeds and enchants, I finally logged in and I like my magplar right now. 5l 1h 1m, still running shackle and Impreg at 4k crit resist then bloodspawn and I feel pretty survivable and crescent sweep seems to be working so long as I do the weave right on the last hit like always.
I love wasting total dark on these enchant meta hoppers lol. Saw a guy go from100 to 20% health in stupid short time lolMinno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭After all the issues with bleeds and enchants, I finally logged in and I like my magplar right now. 5l 1h 1m, still running shackle and Impreg at 4k crit resist then bloodspawn and I feel pretty survivable and crescent sweep seems to be working so long as I do the weave right on the last hit like always.
I love wasting total dark on these enchant meta hoppers lol. Saw a guy go from100 to 20% health in stupid short time lol
Lol yeah. Saw a couple trying to just run, not to be bothered to break free prolly thinking they're sprinting not attacking anyway, only to have UC work them down and pop with POTL.0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭Hmmmm...
Am I reading this correctly?
Is Eclipse hard countering these Dual Weilding Enchantment users?
Unyeilding Bias
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✭It's purifying light and sweeps for magplar (this thread), not potl and jabs. Get it together guy!2 -
Datolite✭✭✭✭✭Hi hiAfter all the issues with bleeds and enchants, I finally logged in and I like my magplar right now. 5l 1h 1m, still running shackle and Impreg at 4k crit resist then bloodspawn and I feel pretty survivable and crescent sweep seems to be working so long as I do the weave right on the last hit like always.
I love wasting total dark on these enchant meta hoppers lol. Saw a guy go from100 to 20% health in stupid short time lol
I'm just starting to experiment with Total Dark. What's the CD like on it? Can you cast on multiple targets? Also, I'm guessing it can't be cast on targets with CC immunity or running Immovable pots right?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MA?
You know the thread was started by someone relatively new. I've been playing since Beta and like to think I have a pretty good grasp on the game and have no idea what this is. Master Architect? The PvE set?0