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Magplar PvP
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Datolite✭✭✭✭✭Speaking of Time Freeze and magplar builds, let me run this one by you guys:
War Maiden (jewels, DW nirn and defending SnB)
Axiom (5 heavy infused/impen)
Shadowrend (med/light infused/impen)
Tristat and magicka, spell/regen glyphs, damage weapon enchant
Witchmother and tristat pots
Real group brawler with focus on disruption and high damage. Throw down time freeze and Nova and charge in with sweeps. Heals suffer a bit under War Maiden but HA makes up for it. Single target 10 sec maim on Shadowrend is nice or keep the AoE strong with Grothdarr or Skoria.
Any thoughts?Edited by Datolite on August 16, 2018 10:00PM0 -
Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »Speaking of Time Freeze and magplar builds, let me run this one by you guys:
War Maiden (jewels, DW nirn and defending SnB)
Axiom (5 heavy infused/impen)
Shadowrend (med/light infused/impen)
Tristat and magicka, weapon damage glyphs
Witchmother and tristat pots
Real group brawler with focus on disruption and high damage. Throw down time freeze and Nova and charge in with sweeps. Heals suffer a bit under War Maiden but HA makes up for it. Single target 10 sec maim on Shadowrend is nice or keep the AoE strong with Grothdarr or Skoria.
Any thoughts?
Spell dmg glyphs right? Not weapon? You could body axiom, front bar warmaiden, and back bar willpower snb0 -
Datolite✭✭✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »Speaking of Time Freeze and magplar builds, let me run this one by you guys:
War Maiden (jewels, DW nirn and defending SnB)
Axiom (5 heavy infused/impen)
Shadowrend (med/light infused/impen)
Tristat and magicka, weapon damage glyphs
Witchmother and tristat pots
Real group brawler with focus on disruption and high damage. Throw down time freeze and Nova and charge in with sweeps. Heals suffer a bit under War Maiden but HA makes up for it. Single target 10 sec maim on Shadowrend is nice or keep the AoE strong with Grothdarr or Skoria.
Any thoughts?
Spell dmg glyphs right? Not weapon? You could body axiom, front bar warmaiden, and back bar willpower snb
Yeah spell my bad.
Good idea. Backbar would just be 2pc right?0 -
Ariades_swe✭✭✭✭✭datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »Speaking of Time Freeze and magplar builds, let me run this one by you guys:
War Maiden (jewels, DW nirn and defending SnB)
Axiom (5 heavy infused/impen)
Shadowrend (med/light infused/impen)
Tristat and magicka, spell/regen glyphs, damage weapon enchant
Witchmother and tristat pots
Real group brawler with focus on disruption and high damage. Throw down time freeze and Nova and charge in with sweeps. Heals suffer a bit under War Maiden but HA makes up for it. Single target 10 sec maim on Shadowrend is nice or keep the AoE strong with Grothdarr or Skoria.
Any thoughts?
I've been using Shadowrend for quite awhile and I really like it.0 -
Mrsinister2✭✭✭✭✭Seems to be alot more magplars around in pvp now I never realized how annoying we can be to kill even tho I main one
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HowlKimchi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Been running Lightning Staff/SnB Magplar since One Tamriel and it’s been a blast up till now.
I like that Magplars are a very stable class in that it doesnt have that much hard counters, and can be very flexible on what you can do just based on the skills you slot.
My setup keeps changing but right now im using:
2pc defensive monster set/skoria
5pc overwhelming surge front bar
5pc transmutation backbar
2pc willpower on rings
Pretty defensive setup that can melt people when all your dots are on them with a purifying light ready to pop.0 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Mrsinister2 wrote: »Seems to be alot more magplars around in pvp now I never realized how annoying we can be to kill even tho I main one
Remember when you rerolled EP, got emp, then lost a 1v1 to Sypher behind Glademist Mine?Edited by Lexxypwns on August 17, 2018 3:46AM0 -
Mrsinister2✭✭✭✭✭Mrsinister2 wrote: »Seems to be alot more magplars around in pvp now I never realized how annoying we can be to kill even tho I main one
Remember when you rerolled EP, got emp, then lost a 1v1 to Sypher behind Glademist Mine?
That was not me I've never been emp or even know who sypher is I've only been playing a year.0 -
Datthaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭What ult is everyone running? I'm still in 2 skoria, 5 heavy shackle, and 5 riposte with lightning staff on front bar with back bar maelstrom resto. I normally use dbos just for the stun when in group. Now that beam is buffed I tried using soul assault and it's still just meh. I guess I could use sweeps for that mitigation but I want something a little more bursty. Idk what options there really is for what I'm looking for. Might just be sol
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Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭What ult is everyone running? I'm still in 2 skoria, 5 heavy shackle, and 5 riposte with lightning staff on front bar with back bar maelstrom resto. I normally use dbos just for the stun when in group. Now that beam is buffed I tried using soul assault and it's still just meh. I guess I could use sweeps for that mitigation but I want something a little more bursty. Idk what options there really is for what I'm looking for. Might just be sol
atm sweeps isnt that good, the damage and hitbox make it rather bad. soul assault is only singletarget and its mostly unefficient if not used in conjunction with eclypse and puryfying light. dbos is the ult to go, especially in small group, where an aoe burst ult with stun is key for success. otherwise devouring swarm is always a good ultimate, which keeps you going offensive and deals also nice damage.1 -
Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Without necro, there really isn't a great way to build for max mag, guess i could double destroc and run destruction mastery.What ult is everyone running? I'm still in 2 skoria, 5 heavy shackle, and 5 riposte with lightning staff on front bar with back bar maelstrom resto. I normally use dbos just for the stun when in group. Now that beam is buffed I tried using soul assault and it's still just meh. I guess I could use sweeps for that mitigation but I want something a little more bursty. Idk what options there really is for what I'm looking for. Might just be sol
atm sweeps isnt that good, the damage and hitbox make it rather bad. soul assault is only singletarget and its mostly unefficient if not used in conjunction with eclypse and puryfying light. dbos is the ult to go, especially in small group, where an aoe burst ult with stun is key for success. otherwise devouring swarm is always a good ultimate, which keeps you going offensive and deals also nice damage.
@Checkmath can you templar reps please discuss the radius of empowering and cresent sweep? It's unnecessarily difficult to land this ultimate.1 -
Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Without necro, there really isn't a great way to build for max mag, guess i could double destroc and run destruction mastery.What ult is everyone running? I'm still in 2 skoria, 5 heavy shackle, and 5 riposte with lightning staff on front bar with back bar maelstrom resto. I normally use dbos just for the stun when in group. Now that beam is buffed I tried using soul assault and it's still just meh. I guess I could use sweeps for that mitigation but I want something a little more bursty. Idk what options there really is for what I'm looking for. Might just be sol
atm sweeps isnt that good, the damage and hitbox make it rather bad. soul assault is only singletarget and its mostly unefficient if not used in conjunction with eclypse and puryfying light. dbos is the ult to go, especially in small group, where an aoe burst ult with stun is key for success. otherwise devouring swarm is always a good ultimate, which keeps you going offensive and deals also nice damage.
@Checkmath can you templar reps please discuss the radius of empowering and cresent sweep? It's unnecessarily difficult to land this ultimate.
templar ultimates will be looked at for next update. the devs recognised, that templars lack a burst ultimate. maybe we will see some changes to sweeps ultimate therefore.0 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭What ult is everyone running? I'm still in 2 skoria, 5 heavy shackle, and 5 riposte with lightning staff on front bar with back bar maelstrom resto. I normally use dbos just for the stun when in group. Now that beam is buffed I tried using soul assault and it's still just meh. I guess I could use sweeps for that mitigation but I want something a little more bursty. Idk what options there really is for what I'm looking for. Might just be sol
atm sweeps isnt that good, the damage and hitbox make it rather bad. soul assault is only singletarget and its mostly unefficient if not used in conjunction with eclypse and puryfying light. dbos is the ult to go, especially in small group, where an aoe burst ult with stun is key for success. otherwise devouring swarm is always a good ultimate, which keeps you going offensive and deals also nice damage.
I think for solo play Devouring is so good. Especially on builds that are using time stop. Bring everyone into closed quarters, time stop, bats, Reflective, sweeps, GG.
I’d also highly recommended using SnB ult and immovable pot together to as a way to make your offense nearly impossible to counter. Being able to just hammer on someone for 6 seconds before needing to worry about health can be super clutch and also catch a lot of average-above average players off guardEdited by Lexxypwns on August 17, 2018 12:57PM3 -
Datolite✭✭✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Without necro, there really isn't a great way to build for max mag, guess i could double destroc and run destruction mastery.What ult is everyone running? I'm still in 2 skoria, 5 heavy shackle, and 5 riposte with lightning staff on front bar with back bar maelstrom resto. I normally use dbos just for the stun when in group. Now that beam is buffed I tried using soul assault and it's still just meh. I guess I could use sweeps for that mitigation but I want something a little more bursty. Idk what options there really is for what I'm looking for. Might just be sol
atm sweeps isnt that good, the damage and hitbox make it rather bad. soul assault is only singletarget and its mostly unefficient if not used in conjunction with eclypse and puryfying light. dbos is the ult to go, especially in small group, where an aoe burst ult with stun is key for success. otherwise devouring swarm is always a good ultimate, which keeps you going offensive and deals also nice damage.
@Checkmath can you templar reps please discuss the radius of empowering and cresent sweep? It's unnecessarily difficult to land this ultimate.
templar ultimates will be looked at for next update. the devs recognised, that templars lack a burst ultimate. maybe we will see some changes to sweeps ultimate therefore.
I really really hope they change Empowering Sweep to hit a bit more like Dawnbreaker. The damage on it just isn't great, even running Axiom and War Maiden. And the damage reduction is barely worth it since you only ever hit 1-3 people with it (4-12%).
Also this might be too much to ask for, but a Nova morph that worked like the destro ult that follows you... omg drooling now.Edited by Datolite on August 17, 2018 1:03PM1 -
Datthaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Checkmath Ahh good idea idk why i didn't think of that. Yeah dbos I don't think I'm gonna drop in group, but solo in cyro soul assault is crap. I'll have to give bats a try tonight.Edited by Datthaw on August 17, 2018 3:08PM0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭What ult is everyone running? I'm still in 2 skoria, 5 heavy shackle, and 5 riposte with lightning staff on front bar with back bar maelstrom resto. I normally use dbos just for the stun when in group. Now that beam is buffed I tried using soul assault and it's still just meh. I guess I could use sweeps for that mitigation but I want something a little more bursty. Idk what options there really is for what I'm looking for. Might just be sol
I've been running Soul Assault lately and have been having a lot of success with it...
The keys for using it are (IMO):
1) Only use it on opponents that are CC'd...
2) Only use it on weakened opponents...
3) Only use it if you've 1st placed Purifying Light on an opponent...
If you follow those rules, Soul Assault will get you a kill on most opponents...
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What ult is everyone running? I'm still in 2 skoria, 5 heavy shackle, and 5 riposte with lightning staff on front bar with back bar maelstrom resto. I normally use dbos just for the stun when in group. Now that beam is buffed I tried using soul assault and it's still just meh. I guess I could use sweeps for that mitigation but I want something a little more bursty. Idk what options there really is for what I'm looking for. Might just be sol
atm sweeps isnt that good, the damage and hitbox make it rather bad. soul assault is only singletarget and its mostly unefficient if not used in conjunction with eclypse and puryfying light. dbos is the ult to go, especially in small group, where an aoe burst ult with stun is key for success. otherwise devouring swarm is always a good ultimate, which keeps you going offensive and deals also nice damage.
I think for solo play Devouring is so good. Especially on builds that are using time stop. Bring everyone into closed quarters, time stop, bats, Reflective, sweeps, GG.
I’d also highly recommended using SnB ult and immovable pot together to as a way to make your offense nearly impossible to counter. Being able to just hammer on someone for 6 seconds before needing to worry about health can be super clutch and also catch a lot of average-above average players off guard
Good comment!Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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VirtualElizabeth✭✭✭✭So I changed my Maplar to a heavy build and loved it last night in Battlegrounds. The only thing is I had tons of survivability but not a lot damage. I am running 5 PC heavy Shackle and 5 Piece Wizards. Monster helm for the moment is Pirates. Besides changing out the monster helm I was thinking of replacing Wizards with my previous fave, Overwhelming. Any thoughts?@ElizabethInTamriel; @ElizabethInESO
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Elise Masterham - Breton Magicka Nightblade
Elinora Valen - Dunmer MagDK
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Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭VirtualElizabeth wrote: »So I changed my Maplar to a heavy build and loved it last night in Battlegrounds. The only thing is I had tons of survivability but not a lot damage. I am running 5 PC heavy Shackle and 5 Piece Wizards. Monster helm for the moment is Pirates. Besides changing out the monster helm I was thinking of replacing Wizards with my previous fave, Overwhelming. Any thoughts?
I run Sload's + Lich + Skoria in BGs. I can sustain rly well, damage melts people aaaaaaand I can keep up some decent healing.
Destro / Resto, with resto ultimate and meteor on damage-bar for the extra magicka. Although I rarely use it. Resto is too strong atm on a magplar to give it up imo.
Playing aoe-dot build with walls/reflective/Blazing spear/Shock Clench/Radiant.
It's pretty efficient in BGs, and the extended ritual hot + rapid reg hot is pretty neat. Place your dots down and watch multiple people melt \o/
I'm an argonian with spell power pots, though. So no stamina issues either.
Edit: I was duelling a DK in Light for testing purposes. I did 9% less damage in heavy, but also took 9% less. So the heavy/light is roughly a 9% trade off, I guess. I'm way more comfortable in heavy, than light anyway.
Edit2: If I wasn't running Sload's, I would either run Overwhelming or Kagrenac's probably. Maybe even Julianos, just for the easy-to-craft-dmg-set. Since I'm lazy. :> KAg's 5pc isnt that useful, but it gives some neat stats.
Full tri-stat enchants and 3x rec glyphs, probably can get away with 2 rec + 1 sd.Edited by Lieblingsjunge on August 17, 2018 9:42PMIgnorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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VirtualElizabeth✭✭✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »VirtualElizabeth wrote: »So I changed my Maplar to a heavy build and loved it last night in Battlegrounds. The only thing is I had tons of survivability but not a lot damage. I am running 5 PC heavy Shackle and 5 Piece Wizards. Monster helm for the moment is Pirates. Besides changing out the monster helm I was thinking of replacing Wizards with my previous fave, Overwhelming. Any thoughts?
I run Sload's + Lich + Skoria in BGs. I can sustain rly well, damage melts people aaaaaaand I can keep up some decent healing.
Destro / Resto, with resto ultimate and meteor on damage-bar for the extra magicka. Although I rarely use it. Resto is too strong atm on a magplar to give it up imo.
Playing aoe-dot build with walls/reflective/Blazing spear/Shock Clench/Radiant.
It's pretty efficient in BGs, and the extended ritual hot + rapid reg hot is pretty neat. Place your dots down and watch multiple people melt \o/
I'm an argonian with spell power pots, though. So no stamina issues either.
Edit: I was duelling a DK in Light for testing purposes. I did 9% less damage in heavy, but also took 9% less. So the heavy/light is roughly a 9% trade off, I guess. I'm way more comfortable in heavy, than light anyway.
Edit2: If I wasn't running Sload's, I would either run Overwhelming or Kagrenac's probably. Maybe even Julianos, just for the easy-to-craft-dmg-set. Since I'm lazy. :> KAg's 5pc isnt that useful, but it gives some neat stats.
Full tri-stat enchants and 3x rec glyphs, probably can get away with 2 rec + 1 sd.
Yeah I was thinking of trying out Shadowrend or maybe grab Skoria from my Mag NB. Not sure about Sloads though but with the nerf I might feel less guilty in using it lol.@ElizabethInTamriel; @ElizabethInESO
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Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭VirtualElizabeth wrote: »Lieblingsjunge wrote: »VirtualElizabeth wrote: »So I changed my Maplar to a heavy build and loved it last night in Battlegrounds. The only thing is I had tons of survivability but not a lot damage. I am running 5 PC heavy Shackle and 5 Piece Wizards. Monster helm for the moment is Pirates. Besides changing out the monster helm I was thinking of replacing Wizards with my previous fave, Overwhelming. Any thoughts?
I run Sload's + Lich + Skoria in BGs. I can sustain rly well, damage melts people aaaaaaand I can keep up some decent healing.
Destro / Resto, with resto ultimate and meteor on damage-bar for the extra magicka. Although I rarely use it. Resto is too strong atm on a magplar to give it up imo.
Playing aoe-dot build with walls/reflective/Blazing spear/Shock Clench/Radiant.
It's pretty efficient in BGs, and the extended ritual hot + rapid reg hot is pretty neat. Place your dots down and watch multiple people melt \o/
I'm an argonian with spell power pots, though. So no stamina issues either.
Edit: I was duelling a DK in Light for testing purposes. I did 9% less damage in heavy, but also took 9% less. So the heavy/light is roughly a 9% trade off, I guess. I'm way more comfortable in heavy, than light anyway.
Edit2: If I wasn't running Sload's, I would either run Overwhelming or Kagrenac's probably. Maybe even Julianos, just for the easy-to-craft-dmg-set. Since I'm lazy. :> KAg's 5pc isnt that useful, but it gives some neat stats.
Full tri-stat enchants and 3x rec glyphs, probably can get away with 2 rec + 1 sd.
Yeah I was thinking of trying out Shadowrend or maybe grab Skoria from my Mag NB. Not sure about Sloads though but with the nerf I might feel less guilty in using it lol.
Sload's is still strong in no-cp, but it isn't borderline broken anymore. I'm a filthy Sload's abuser since 1 week after it was released, and I have no shame :> When I see all the other cheese people run in BGs, I let myself run sloads. *snickers*
I like Skoria much more, since it's aoe pew pew, and shadowrend is.. idk. Nice for duelling I guess. Butthen again, I never tried it - always loved muh skoria
Edit: Although, I feel these days - Magplar is more about which playstyle you prefer, than anything. Ranged, melee, high dmg and no def, or def and high damage...? It's probably one of the more versatile classes in terms of gameplay-variety. You basically have to play a ranged msorc, but you don't have to play a melee templar. But they don't rly excel at anything :^Edited by Lieblingsjunge on August 17, 2018 9:50PMIgnorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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Fail-With-Tail(AD) - Healing Springs-spammer :<
Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
Lieblingsmädchen(DC) - Magplar is love.
The Dominàtrix(AD) - Chains, whip, whip, whip.
Fluffy Furball Kitten(DC) - Kittycat, meow.
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cazlonb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭What ult is everyone running? I'm still in 2 skoria, 5 heavy shackle, and 5 riposte with lightning staff on front bar with back bar maelstrom resto. I normally use dbos just for the stun when in group. Now that beam is buffed I tried using soul assault and it's still just meh. I guess I could use sweeps for that mitigation but I want something a little more bursty. Idk what options there really is for what I'm looking for. Might just be sol
What's the connection between Jesus Beam buff and Soul Assault ? Imo you should run at most one of them anyway, certainly not both.
As for that Jesus Beam buff: I tested it the other day with a turret build ( Axiom light, War Maiden, Slime Craw ) spamming from the back of a zerg mostly. So pretty ideal circumstances for it to shine, but the difference to before that patch is frankly quite minor. That's not much of a surprise of course, in PvP the modifier for very low health wasn't really that much of an issue to start with. Dunno if it intentional or not, the change is much more of a PvE fix for the ability.
Other classes seem to think so as well or the forums would already be flooded with whine threads about it ( again ).Edited by cazlonb16_ESO on August 18, 2018 9:00AM3
