Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Any cheaper and it would break pvp. Probably the most underrated zerg healing skill in the game. By far the best for train farming.
StarOfElyon wrote: »
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »
the heal from healing rituals morphs is bigger then rushed ceremonies morphs, not to mention you can hit 6/7 people with healing ritual and/or morphs and only 1/2 with rushed ceremony and/or morphs , there are problems with the skill but the size of the heal is not one of them, no need to make one up.
StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »
the heal from healing rituals morphs is bigger then rushed ceremonies morphs, not to mention you can hit 6/7 people with healing ritual and/or morphs and only 1/2 with rushed ceremony and/or morphs , there are problems with the skill but the size of the heal is not one of them, no need to make one up.
I'm not making one up when I'm actually playing healer and get to the point where I know BoL is more effective than healing ritual, to the point that I stop using anything but BoL. So keep that mess to yourself.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »
the heal from healing rituals morphs is bigger then rushed ceremonies morphs, not to mention you can hit 6/7 people with healing ritual and/or morphs and only 1/2 with rushed ceremony and/or morphs , there are problems with the skill but the size of the heal is not one of them, no need to make one up.
I'm not making one up when I'm actually playing healer and get to the point where I know BoL is more effective than healing ritual, to the point that I stop using anything but BoL. So keep that mess to yourself.
what are you on about man? what does "So keep that mess to yourself" even mean? you state that healing ritual has a lower heal then breath. this is simply false. now breath is clearly more "effective" and that is a problem with healing ritual but the actual amount you heal for, is larger with healing ritual and you can hit more people. this is fact. now does that make healing ritual better for a healer then breath of life? no. not even close.
also, if you are a templar healer and you are only using breath of life and you are not using extended ritual/ritual of retribution, you are doing it wrong.
StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »
the heal from healing rituals morphs is bigger then rushed ceremonies morphs, not to mention you can hit 6/7 people with healing ritual and/or morphs and only 1/2 with rushed ceremony and/or morphs , there are problems with the skill but the size of the heal is not one of them, no need to make one up.
I'm not making one up when I'm actually playing healer and get to the point where I know BoL is more effective than healing ritual, to the point that I stop using anything but BoL. So keep that mess to yourself.
what are you on about man? what does "So keep that mess to yourself" even mean? you state that healing ritual has a lower heal then breath. this is simply false. now breath is clearly more "effective" and that is a problem with healing ritual but the actual amount you heal for, is larger with healing ritual and you can hit more people. this is fact. now does that make healing ritual better for a healer then breath of life? no. not even close.
also, if you are a templar healer and you are only using breath of life and you are not using extended ritual/ritual of retribution, you are doing it wrong.
You accused me of making up problems. That's what.
StarOfElyon wrote: »And I do use RoR or ER. But anyway, when it comes to getting big heals in close situations, especially on a single target(which is typically the case), Healing Ritual doesn't hit the way Breath of Life does. I like that it's quick but it is beat out by BoL's heal. But then, I haven't healed in any trials yet. Maybe things are different there.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »
the heal from healing rituals morphs is bigger then rushed ceremonies morphs, not to mention you can hit 6/7 people with healing ritual and/or morphs and only 1/2 with rushed ceremony and/or morphs , there are problems with the skill but the size of the heal is not one of them, no need to make one up.
I'm not making one up when I'm actually playing healer and get to the point where I know BoL is more effective than healing ritual, to the point that I stop using anything but BoL. So keep that mess to yourself.
what are you on about man? what does "So keep that mess to yourself" even mean? you state that healing ritual has a lower heal then breath. this is simply false. now breath is clearly more "effective" and that is a problem with healing ritual but the actual amount you heal for, is larger with healing ritual and you can hit more people. this is fact. now does that make healing ritual better for a healer then breath of life? no. not even close.
also, if you are a templar healer and you are only using breath of life and you are not using extended ritual/ritual of retribution, you are doing it wrong.
You accused me of making up problems. That's what.
you may feel "accused" but i did not, i flat out said you are wrong, about the size of the heal you get from healing ritual and you are but you are playing this victim card for some reason and are not owning your mistake.StarOfElyon wrote: »And I do use RoR or ER. But anyway, when it comes to getting big heals in close situations, especially on a single target(which is typically the case), Healing Ritual doesn't hit the way Breath of Life does. I like that it's quick but it is beat out by BoL's heal. But then, I haven't healed in any trials yet. Maybe things are different there.
then you were lying when you said "to the point that I stop using anything but BoL", this implies that the only templar heal on your bar is breath.
also, no kidding HR doesn't hit the same, HR is a PBAoE heal, with a range of 10 meters. breath is a 28 meter 180° cone in front of you with a 360° heal that is 33% of the size of the main cone heal. if you are trying to use HR as a breath substitute, you are doing wrong.
none of that changes the fact that the actual amount you heal with on the morphs of HR are stanger, 3% stronger to exact, then breath of life's main heal. if you count the fact that you can hit 6 players, 7 in the case of Ritual of Rebirth, you get almost 5 times of the amount of healing, as 6.5 heals from Ritual of Rebirth is almost 5 times the amount you get from breath of life, 1.33 heals.
none of what i have stated here makes healing ritual good i main a templar healer and have never used the skill in any capacity, do not let me trying to drill the fact that you were wrong about the pure size of the heal differences between these skills fool you into thinking that i thinking healing ritual is any good.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »
the heal from healing rituals morphs is bigger then rushed ceremonies morphs, not to mention you can hit 6/7 people with healing ritual and/or morphs and only 1/2 with rushed ceremony and/or morphs , there are problems with the skill but the size of the heal is not one of them, no need to make one up.
I'm not making one up when I'm actually playing healer and get to the point where I know BoL is more effective than healing ritual, to the point that I stop using anything but BoL. So keep that mess to yourself.
what are you on about man? what does "So keep that mess to yourself" even mean? you state that healing ritual has a lower heal then breath. this is simply false. now breath is clearly more "effective" and that is a problem with healing ritual but the actual amount you heal for, is larger with healing ritual and you can hit more people. this is fact. now does that make healing ritual better for a healer then breath of life? no. not even close.
also, if you are a templar healer and you are only using breath of life and you are not using extended ritual/ritual of retribution, you are doing it wrong.
You accused me of making up problems. That's what.
you may feel "accused" but i did not, i flat out said you are wrong, about the size of the heal you get from healing ritual and you are but you are playing this victim card for some reason and are not owning your mistake.StarOfElyon wrote: »And I do use RoR or ER. But anyway, when it comes to getting big heals in close situations, especially on a single target(which is typically the case), Healing Ritual doesn't hit the way Breath of Life does. I like that it's quick but it is beat out by BoL's heal. But then, I haven't healed in any trials yet. Maybe things are different there.
then you were lying when you said "to the point that I stop using anything but BoL", this implies that the only templar heal on your bar is breath.
also, no kidding HR doesn't hit the same, HR is a PBAoE heal, with a range of 10 meters. breath is a 28 meter 180° cone in front of you with a 360° heal that is 33% of the size of the main cone heal. if you are trying to use HR as a breath substitute, you are doing wrong.
none of that changes the fact that the actual amount you heal with on the morphs of HR are stanger, 3% stronger to exact, then breath of life's main heal. if you count the fact that you can hit 6 players, 7 in the case of Ritual of Rebirth, you get almost 5 times of the amount of healing, as 6.5 heals from Ritual of Rebirth is almost 5 times the amount you get from breath of life, 1.33 heals.
none of what i have stated here makes healing ritual good i main a templar healer and have never used the skill in any capacity, do not let me trying to drill the fact that you were wrong about the pure size of the heal differences between these skills fool you into thinking that i thinking healing ritual is any good.
it was better before the cost increase because it was a proactive tool instead of a reactive for templar healers. Now it's just hugely expensive.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »
the heal from healing rituals morphs is bigger then rushed ceremonies morphs, not to mention you can hit 6/7 people with healing ritual and/or morphs and only 1/2 with rushed ceremony and/or morphs , there are problems with the skill but the size of the heal is not one of them, no need to make one up.
I'm not making one up when I'm actually playing healer and get to the point where I know BoL is more effective than healing ritual, to the point that I stop using anything but BoL. So keep that mess to yourself.
what are you on about man? what does "So keep that mess to yourself" even mean? you state that healing ritual has a lower heal then breath. this is simply false. now breath is clearly more "effective" and that is a problem with healing ritual but the actual amount you heal for, is larger with healing ritual and you can hit more people. this is fact. now does that make healing ritual better for a healer then breath of life? no. not even close.
also, if you are a templar healer and you are only using breath of life and you are not using extended ritual/ritual of retribution, you are doing it wrong.
You accused me of making up problems. That's what.
you may feel "accused" but i did not, i flat out said you are wrong, about the size of the heal you get from healing ritual and you are but you are playing this victim card for some reason and are not owning your mistake.StarOfElyon wrote: »And I do use RoR or ER. But anyway, when it comes to getting big heals in close situations, especially on a single target(which is typically the case), Healing Ritual doesn't hit the way Breath of Life does. I like that it's quick but it is beat out by BoL's heal. But then, I haven't healed in any trials yet. Maybe things are different there.
then you were lying when you said "to the point that I stop using anything but BoL", this implies that the only templar heal on your bar is breath.
also, no kidding HR doesn't hit the same, HR is a PBAoE heal, with a range of 10 meters. breath is a 28 meter 180° cone in front of you with a 360° heal that is 33% of the size of the main cone heal. if you are trying to use HR as a breath substitute, you are doing wrong.
none of that changes the fact that the actual amount you heal with on the morphs of HR are stanger, 3% stronger to exact, then breath of life's main heal. if you count the fact that you can hit 6 players, 7 in the case of Ritual of Rebirth, you get almost 5 times of the amount of healing, as 6.5 heals from Ritual of Rebirth is almost 5 times the amount you get from breath of life, 1.33 heals.
none of what i have stated here makes healing ritual good i main a templar healer and have never used the skill in any capacity, do not let me trying to drill the fact that you were wrong about the pure size of the heal differences between these skills fool you into thinking that i thinking healing ritual is any good.
it was better before the cost increase because it was a proactive tool instead of a reactive for templar healers. Now it's just hugely expensive.
even if HR was the same cost as breath of life, the skill would skil not be worth using, there is just no need for that much healing int he game, pve wize. when you can hit 6 people for a breath of life a second, where is the damage in the game to justify that? and if there a scenario that is like that, where would you use healing ritual, what would make you use a PBAoE heal, over healing springs, a range aoe hot that stacks with itself? as i said, there are problems with the skill but the size of the heal is not one of them. the cost could be lowered too but the skill would still not see use.
StarOfElyon wrote: »
You should use total dark in such situations.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »
the heal from healing rituals morphs is bigger then rushed ceremonies morphs, not to mention you can hit 6/7 people with healing ritual and/or morphs and only 1/2 with rushed ceremony and/or morphs , there are problems with the skill but the size of the heal is not one of them, no need to make one up.
I'm not making one up when I'm actually playing healer and get to the point where I know BoL is more effective than healing ritual, to the point that I stop using anything but BoL. So keep that mess to yourself.
what are you on about man? what does "So keep that mess to yourself" even mean? you state that healing ritual has a lower heal then breath. this is simply false. now breath is clearly more "effective" and that is a problem with healing ritual but the actual amount you heal for, is larger with healing ritual and you can hit more people. this is fact. now does that make healing ritual better for a healer then breath of life? no. not even close.
also, if you are a templar healer and you are only using breath of life and you are not using extended ritual/ritual of retribution, you are doing it wrong.
You accused me of making up problems. That's what.
you may feel "accused" but i did not, i flat out said you are wrong, about the size of the heal you get from healing ritual and you are but you are playing this victim card for some reason and are not owning your mistake.StarOfElyon wrote: »And I do use RoR or ER. But anyway, when it comes to getting big heals in close situations, especially on a single target(which is typically the case), Healing Ritual doesn't hit the way Breath of Life does. I like that it's quick but it is beat out by BoL's heal. But then, I haven't healed in any trials yet. Maybe things are different there.
then you were lying when you said "to the point that I stop using anything but BoL", this implies that the only templar heal on your bar is breath.
also, no kidding HR doesn't hit the same, HR is a PBAoE heal, with a range of 10 meters. breath is a 28 meter 180° cone in front of you with a 360° heal that is 33% of the size of the main cone heal. if you are trying to use HR as a breath substitute, you are doing wrong.
none of that changes the fact that the actual amount you heal with on the morphs of HR are stanger, 3% stronger to exact, then breath of life's main heal. if you count the fact that you can hit 6 players, 7 in the case of Ritual of Rebirth, you get almost 5 times of the amount of healing, as 6.5 heals from Ritual of Rebirth is almost 5 times the amount you get from breath of life, 1.33 heals.
none of what i have stated here makes healing ritual good i main a templar healer and have never used the skill in any capacity, do not let me trying to drill the fact that you were wrong about the pure size of the heal differences between these skills fool you into thinking that i thinking healing ritual is any good.
it was better before the cost increase because it was a proactive tool instead of a reactive for templar healers. Now it's just hugely expensive.
even if HR was the same cost as breath of life, the skill would skil not be worth using, there is just no need for that much healing int he game, pve wize. when you can hit 6 people for a breath of life a second, where is the damage in the game to justify that? and if there a scenario that is like that, where would you use healing ritual, what would make you use a PBAoE heal, over healing springs, a range aoe hot that stacks with itself? as i said, there are problems with the skill but the size of the heal is not one of them. the cost could be lowered too but the skill would still not see use.
id use it if it cost the same as HtD. You get punished on the mag return for recasting that, but could see more benefit casting hasty prayer for the 10% speed buff (2x swift equalvalent). But because it's just under 6k even in light armor, it's terrible.
Next patch, breton with alteration mastery and light armor MIGHT be interesting with hasty prayer use.
StarOfElyon wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »
You should use total dark in such situations.
I use Unstable Core but it doesn't impede them from heavy attacking me to death. How is Total Dark better?
Mrsinister2 wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »
You should use total dark in such situations.
I use Unstable Core but it doesn't impede them from heavy attacking me to death. How is Total Dark better?
You get a very large heal every time they attack with total dark on them it also damages them for attacking.
StarOfElyon wrote: »I'm guessing Altmer and Breton Templar are about to become the new meta.
One thing I've noticed this patch ... Stam builds all have access to some firm or major or minor breach / fracture
I'd like to see magica players get access to this more easily
One thing I've noticed this patch ... Stam builds all have access to some firm or major or minor breach / fracture
I'd like to see magica players get access to this more easily
Ele drain. Use it, love it, embrace it. Stam can't get major penetration on a 28m ranged ability that cost nothing while giving you 300- 600 effective Regen every second you attack something.