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Elsweyr VS Black Marsh

  • Inhuman003
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    Azyle1 wrote: »
    Who the hell wants to go to Black Marsh? I like Argonians, but the Khajiit seem 9458630983475698437698437596834 times more interesting.
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  • gnarlyvandal
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    Both zones would be nice, although I’d much rather they hurry up and let us travel to the empty zones of the map between cyrodiil and everything else...

    Since my early days of TES I’ve wanted to play an argonian shadowscale in the black marsh.
    Edited by gnarlyvandal on May 10, 2018 5:08PM
  • Cously
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    We need a good desert map, Alik'r is not enough. Craglorn so so, but a dune sea hmm...awesome. Also jungles, love me some Valenwood jungles but a tropical one would be a welcome change of scenario. Swamps...ahh...nah.
  • Rain_Greyraven
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    Azyle1 wrote: »
    Who the hell wants to go to Black Marsh? I like Argonians, but the Khajiit seem 9458630983475698437698437596834 times more interesting.

    /Thinks about a certain forum thespian and how irritating they are.....

    Um no....no they're not.
    Edited by Rain_Greyraven on May 10, 2018 6:24PM
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  • Minno
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    Idk, both would be cool. Black Marsh, despite a Marsh could have a really cool storyline with Blackwood and Archon involving the dark brotherhood/Morag tong/how the imperials try to build plantations/slavery.

    Lots of conflict lore there.
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  • Rain_Greyraven
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    Both zones would be nice, although I’d much rather they hurry up and let us travel to the empty zones of the map between cyrodiil and everything else...

    Since my early days of TES I’ve wanted to play an argonian shadowscale in the black marsh.

    Yeah I have been fascinated by the Argonians and Blackmarsh since I read the ES novel the Infernal city
    Edited by Rain_Greyraven on May 10, 2018 6:29PM
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  • Inhuman003
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    Black Marsh
    What does Elswayr Wildlife look like?
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  • Lynx7386
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    I've been wanting to go to elsweyr since tes3.

    I just hope that if we do get elsweyr in eso, zenimax pays attention to detail and represents all of the khajiiti subspecies, at least as npcs.
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    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • Marginis
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    I've been wanting to go to elsweyr since tes3.

    I just hope that if we do get elsweyr in eso, zenimax pays attention to detail and represents all of the khajiiti subspecies, at least as npcs.

    Don't tell anyone but there're actually more Khajiit subspecies in ESO than you probably think. :open_mouth:
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  • BozzyTheDrummer
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    I would much rather travel to/explore all of Elsweyr. From what we have seen in ESO, Elsweyr is much more appealing than Black Marsh (to me.)

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  • Lynx7386
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    Marginis wrote: »
    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    I've been wanting to go to elsweyr since tes3.

    I just hope that if we do get elsweyr in eso, zenimax pays attention to detail and represents all of the khajiiti subspecies, at least as npcs.

    Don't tell anyone but there're actually more Khajiit subspecies in ESO than you probably think. :open_mouth:

    Probably not as many as you'd think either.

    We have 3 variants in ESO: The playable Cathay, and the non playable Senche and Alfiq.

    Most of the 'senche' in game are not actually khajiit and should not be called senche; they're mislabelled, either by ZOS being morons when it comes to lore or by other cultures not knowing the difference between sentient and non sentient cats.

    The few 'proper' senche are all named NPCs. There's a few in grahtwood (malabal tor) and a few in reaper's march and khenarthi's roost. Those locations also display the only proper alfiq in game, which are 'housecats' with khajiiti names.

    Beyond those, we should have suthay, dagi, ohmes, and pamar, as well as the -raht versions (larger variations) of all of those, and technically the mane should be a unique physiology as well according to some khajiit lore (though it can be explained away that the mane is just a position that was denoted by being born under a certain moon sign).

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    M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • Marginis
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Marginis wrote: »
    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    I've been wanting to go to elsweyr since tes3.

    I just hope that if we do get elsweyr in eso, zenimax pays attention to detail and represents all of the khajiiti subspecies, at least as npcs.

    Don't tell anyone but there're actually more Khajiit subspecies in ESO than you probably think. :open_mouth:

    Probably not as many as you'd think either.

    We have 3 variants in ESO: The playable Cathay, and the non playable Senche and Alfiq.

    Most of the 'senche' in game are not actually khajiit and should not be called senche; they're mislabelled, either by ZOS being morons when it comes to lore or by other cultures not knowing the difference between sentient and non sentient cats.

    The few 'proper' senche are all named NPCs. There's a few in grahtwood (malabal tor) and a few in reaper's march and khenarthi's roost. Those locations also display the only proper alfiq in game, which are 'housecats' with khajiiti names.

    Beyond those, we should have suthay, dagi, ohmes, and pamar, as well as the -raht versions (larger variations) of all of those, and technically the mane should be a unique physiology as well according to some khajiit lore (though it can be explained away that the mane is just a position that was denoted by being born under a certain moon sign).

    There is a -raht Khajiit in-game, as well as at least one more of those that you mentioned. I don't know if I still have screenshots, but I'll see if I can find them. Otherwise just consider it a scavenger hunt. o.o There is another type, but I'm not counting that because it's not technically released yet.
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  • Priyasekarssk
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    Inhuman003 wrote: »
    I chose this topic because we had not seen a beast race zone yet so far in the game. In all eyes of the beholder the COMMUNITY only one can be chosen. Please feel free to put down your thoughts and ideas?

    Here's my thought are they the underdogs to be the hope to save Tamriel in the future?

    What ever it is dont put mountains in the middle of map. ESO chapters are becoming complete junk day by day only filled with fillers like grinding , mountains. Gamers are little bit conscious on their next update. Many wondering ZOs & bethesda become money grabbers like ubisoft and EA , rather game developers.
    Edited by Priyasekarssk on May 11, 2018 6:54PM
  • Inhuman003
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    Which one Hmm
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  • ezio45
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    literally anywhere but hammer fell, blackmarsh or elswyr

    deserts and swamp.... nty
  • Thalmor-Nordmaster
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    Elsweyr
    Warm sands and many fur stocks.
  • rfennell_ESO
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    Even though it's unlikely, I would rather see Skyrim and mountains and snow.
  • StormChaser3000
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    How about remote island or secret underground cave with survived Dwemers? Such an advanced civilization just couldn't vanish completely.

    Otherwise, I'd prefer Black Marsh since devs are quite good in designing swamps/jungle in ESO.
  • Sailor_Palutena
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    Why no love for Skyrim? I'm just doing Eastmarch/The Rift and loving to find old known places. Can't wait to see Solitude, Whiterun and Markath.
  • Sailor_Palutena
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    How about remote island or secret underground cave with survived Dwemers? Such an advanced civilization just couldn't vanish completely.

    Otherwise, I'd prefer Black Marsh since devs are quite good in designing swamps/jungle in ESO.
    Dwemers and Snow Elves should be playable races! Sea Elves too. Bring on more diversity :P
  • notyuu
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    What about some of the islands in the Elheric sea... or the Padomaic sea...
  • Universe
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    This discussion is a bit old, but I made some notes with info.
    Well we do get Murkmire DLC soon and it's part of Black Marsh :)
    Murkmire is a region situated in western Black Marsh, south of Shadowfen

    But if we speak of the next chapter after Summerset*:
    It can't be Elsweyr since "Aldmeri Dominion chapter" called Summerset was recently released, it is a bit illogical that a second "Aldmeri Dominion chapter" will be released right after Summerset.
    It can't be Black Marsh due to the fact that before Summerset, Morrowind, an "Ebonheart Pact chapter" was released.
    Also, Murkmire DLC is situated in Black Marsh so there is no need for more areas of Black Marsh.

    So judging by the previous chapter releases, we should expect that the next chapter will be a "Daggerfall Covenant chapter" in a Daggerfall Covenant zone.
    Orsinium was never a chapter, so it's safe to say that a chapter like & large zone of Daggerfall Covenant was not released yet.
    I don't consider Orsinium nor Craglorn to be large enough Daggerfall Covenant zones(Craglorn is even no-man's-land.), so the next chapter may have to fill the gap and introduce a chapter like zone for Daggerfall Covenant.
    A few zones for example:
    Sunforge
    Sunforge is a landlocked region in central Hammerfell. It contains the city of Ska'vyn. Skaven, also known as Ska'vyn, is a town in north-central Hammerfell. The Halls of Virtues of War, the home of the Sword-singers, is located just outside the city.
    and The Chain
    The Chain is a little known archipelago in the Abecean Sea that is made up of at least three islands.
    of Hammerfall are yet to be discovered and the Redguards story can certainly receive more attention.
    Edited by Universe on September 4, 2018 9:00PM
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  • DorianDragonRaze
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    Moar moonsugar farms, yes? May you walk on warm sands!
    Edited by DorianDragonRaze on September 4, 2018 9:55PM
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  • Iccotak
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    @Universe
    Yeah I think alot of these people are jumping the gun when it comes to Elsweyr.
    I could see a story DLC taking place there but for a chapter I am betting on a DC zone.
  • ArchMikem
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Do you really want an entire expansion of swamps? Elsweyr is a far more varied landscape

    Do you really want an entire expansion of lands caked with fur and oversized, open air litter trays?.

    Yes, i do very much so.
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  • Sylvermynx
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    I have no use for Argonians, never have. Not interested in Shadowfen, Murkmire, Black Marsh. Only swamp I've ever liked is Hjaalmarch. Well, I'm not interested in vampires or werewolves either, but that's not germane to this discussion.

    Elseweyr all the way, thanks.

    I do also like the suggested Hammerfell areas, @Universe, if we can't have Elseweyr.
    Edited by Sylvermynx on September 5, 2018 12:35AM
  • DanteYoda
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    Akavir So much Zos could do with this tbh..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwJZHkAylQ8

    At least three new races with new skill lines..
  • Sylvermynx
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    @DanteYoda: yep, that's a good one too!
  • Iccotak
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    @DanteYoda

    No thanks
    ESO should never add more playable races.

    Skill lines sure why not. But races? No, not necessary. There's a good reason ESO is avoiding that pit.
  • DanteYoda
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    Iccotak wrote: »
    @DanteYoda

    No thanks
    ESO should never add more playable races.

    Skill lines sure why not. But races? No, not necessary. There's a good reason ESO is avoiding that pit.

    Disagree completely but thanks for your insight.. Games first and foremost a story driven questing experience, new races and world adds to that.. PvP and Dungeon meta in niche at best..
    Edited by DanteYoda on September 5, 2018 4:50AM
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