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Elsweyr VS Black Marsh

  • Banana
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    Elsweyr
    No more dirty lizards
  • pod88kk
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    Elsweyr
    Shadowfen is the toilet of Tamriel at the moment, I don't fancy taking a tour of the sewer system
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    Elsweyr
    ewww lizards...khajiit master race!
  • phermitgb
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Do you really want an entire expansion of swamps? *snip*

    quick answer - Yes.

    I like fantasy swamps. I like fantasy massive underground dungeon cities (Moria), I like vast empty deserts, and I like mist-shrouded swamps. I've got plenty of deserts so far (although I do wish they'd do more with akavir or give me some reasons to head back to beautiful al'ikr), and a metric stupid ton of elfy forests. But so far, the swampy areas available have been...not swampy enough.

    A massive size zone (wrothgar style), but built around marshlands, everglades, canopied swamp zones...I'd love that. Dagobah for ESO.
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  • Sicardus
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    The only place in Argonia that non Argonians can't reach is their cultural capital of Helstrom. Everywhere else is practically accessible. There's many misconceptions about Argonia because most people honestly can't be bothered to read about a province that at the surface appears uninteresting. That's the idea of the place though, to look deeper. Argonia is definitely a dangerous place, especially after leaving Shadowfen and going South. The Drome of Toxic Shock and the Umbrage levels really exemplify those dangers. The adventure zone layout for Murkmire would've fit the region perfectly as it would've legit taken 4 players to traverse to survive. Obviously all that is gone now, thanks to the solo play purists. We probably won't get the same Murkmire in appearance, but in my view that's a good thing, despite the fact that I was enchanted with the images presented at Quakecon. I'm just interested to see how they approach the zone. All the other zones presented have been complete, with Mephala's realm probably dropping later this year, unless it was just a part of the expansion. Given CWC, I doubt that.
  • Lynx7386
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    Elsweyr
    The elf racism in this thread is astounding.
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  • ankhor8
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    I am a Strong, studied, Saxhleel enthusiast. I choose elsweyr because i like the fact the Marsh is unexplored and untraveled by softskins. I want the bulk of the Marsh left alone for last.
    Maybe allow Gideon to be traveled to. Since Our Seth praising marsh kin reside there, I'm sure the expansion would provide more silent killing options and more sending opponents to the void in general.
    The two main reasons we Saxhleel are the main inhabitants in the Marsh is because of our biological fortitude, and a particular event that occurred a few years before the soulburst. I prefer to keep it that way.
    I much prefer allow that cat land to be run through. Allow the attention to stay shifted away from us as we build in the cut.


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  • Numerikuu
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    Other Please explain why
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  • KyleTheYounger
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    Other Please explain why
    Sicardus wrote: »
    The only place in Argonia that non Argonians can't reach is their cultural capital of Helstrom. Everywhere else is practically accessible. There's many misconceptions about Argonia because most people honestly can't be bothered to read about a province that at the surface appears uninteresting. That's the idea of the place though, to look deeper. Argonia is definitely a dangerous place, especially after leaving Shadowfen and going South. The Drome of Toxic Shock and the Umbrage levels really exemplify those dangers. The adventure zone layout for Murkmire would've fit the region perfectly as it would've legit taken 4 players to traverse to survive. Obviously all that is gone now, thanks to the solo play purists. We probably won't get the same Murkmire in appearance, but in my view that's a good thing, despite the fact that I was enchanted with the images presented at Quakecon. I'm just interested to see how they approach the zone. All the other zones presented have been complete, with Mephala's realm probably dropping later this year, unless it was just a part of the expansion. Given CWC, I doubt that.

    I think you missed the part a lot of folks don't care to play a map that's 99.9999% swap. :D
  • Inhuman003
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    Black Marsh
    I rather see Elsweyr as Elder Scroll 6 and Black Marsh as the next Chapter in ESO.
  • Zorgon_The_Revenged
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    Necromancer class and spell crafting to be packaged with Black Marsh chapter confirmed!!
  • TelvanniWizard
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    Elsweyr
    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    The elf racism in this thread is astounding.

    Those damm hist hippies...

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  • Spearpoint
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  • Sicardus
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    Sicardus wrote: »
    The only place in Argonia that non Argonians can't reach is their cultural capital of Helstrom. Everywhere else is practically accessible. There's many misconceptions about Argonia because most people honestly can't be bothered to read about a province that at the surface appears uninteresting. That's the idea of the place though, to look deeper. Argonia is definitely a dangerous place, especially after leaving Shadowfen and going South. The Drome of Toxic Shock and the Umbrage levels really exemplify those dangers. The adventure zone layout for Murkmire would've fit the region perfectly as it would've legit taken 4 players to traverse to survive. Obviously all that is gone now, thanks to the solo play purists. We probably won't get the same Murkmire in appearance, but in my view that's a good thing, despite the fact that I was enchanted with the images presented at Quakecon. I'm just interested to see how they approach the zone. All the other zones presented have been complete, with Mephala's realm probably dropping later this year, unless it was just a part of the expansion. Given CWC, I doubt that.

    I think you missed the part a lot of folks don't care to play a map that's 99.9999% swap. :D

    Murkmire has a heavy amount of highlands. It's not all swamp, but much of it tends to be. Wetlands are cool from my point of view.
  • Vanthras79
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    Elsweyr
    I wonder if we will ever see where Raz came from? His hometown.
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  • Seraphayel
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    Elsweyr
    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    I wonder if we will ever see where Raz came from? His hometown.

    Isn't he from Dune?
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  • Vanthras79
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    Elsweyr
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    I wonder if we will ever see where Raz came from? His hometown.

    Isn't he from Dune?

    Where does he say that?
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  • Seraphayel
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    Elsweyr
    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    I wonder if we will ever see where Raz came from? His hometown.

    Isn't he from Dune?

    Where does he say that?

    Well I recently leveled a new Aldmeri character to 50 and some Khajit said that's she/he is from Dune. I can't remember any Khajit except Razum-dar so I just thought he said that. Could be wrong though.
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  • notimetocare
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    Black Marsh
    Easily the most hostile and uncharted part of Tamriel
  • Tholian1
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    Elsweyr
    I find the Argonian vernacular to be disturbing and avoid listening to them when possible. Membranes this, eggs that, and so on.

    Let’s go Elsweyr.
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  • Draghorn
    Draghorn
    Other Please explain why
    Argonians and Khajiit (and orcs) are my favorite races. I don't know which homeland I would like to see more. Just flip a coin I guess.

    Your favorite ES races are exactly my favorite ES races too. (Argonians, Khajiit, and Orcs) ^_^ I'd be happy with both honestly. :D
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  • SewerFairy
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    Elsweyr
    I want both, but Elseweyr seems more intresting. Or maybe it is just because, I like cute Khajiit a little bit more than lovely Argonians. :)
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  • ofSunhold
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    Elsweyr
    I don't mind the Saxhleel, but not a fan of swamps.

    And the Khajiit haven't really gotten to do all that much yet. I'd like to see and know more. Warm sands and cats! Cats are awesome.
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Black Marsh
    There are two Khajiit themed zones in the game already ... versus only one for Argonians. The answer is obvious.
  • KyleTheYounger
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    Other Please explain why
    What's the 2nd Khajiit themed zone besides Elyswer?
  • Inhuman003
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    Black Marsh
    ?
  • ArchMikem
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    Elsweyr
    Azurya wrote: »
    the looks of Elsweyr we already know, it is like A´lakir desert, sand, bones and nothing
    will never come, because it is BORING!

    Have you even heard of the great Tenmar Forest? Or the tropical southern coast?
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  • Guarlet
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    Elsweyr
    How is this even a question? Black Marsh is literally the cesspool of Tamriel where nobody except Argnonians wants to go or live. In-lore, as well.
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  • Aliyavana
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    Elsweyr
    There are two Khajiit themed zones in the game already ... versus only one for Argonians. The answer is obvious.

    Argonians don't need more than one, that filthy swamp was good enough for those filthy talking puses
  • AdamskiAlders
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    Elsweyr
    Shadowfen is probably my least favourite Zone in the entire game including pretty much all the DLC areas. I find it boring and quite ugly, so on that note I'd vote for any other province, territory, zone, island in Tamriel over Black Marsh.
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